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Fida Apr 27, 2005 03:28 PM

Any suggestions for simple, inexpensive non-tomato pasta sauces, apart from carbonara variations? Preferably something that could be tossed together from ingredients that were already in the cupboard?

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    Sharon RE: Fida Apr 27, 2005 03:32 PM

    I love Marcella Hazan's recipe for penne with cauliflower sauce. You basically cook a head of cauliflower and divide it into florets. Then you saute some garlic and anchovies in some olive oil until the anchovies melt. Then add the cauliflower and red chili pepper, salt, and pepper. Then toss with the cooked penne and fresh parsley. I think that's it, but I'd have to look it up to be more exact.

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      emiloo RE: Sharon Apr 27, 2005 05:05 PM

      oh yeah this is to die for! my mom (who's sicilian) would make this all the time when i was growing up. whomever came up with the idea of putting cauliflower and pasta together was genius. she never put anchovies in it, but i'm sure that's good.

      my mom also makes a great "pasta norma" which has tomato...but you could omit that. it's like the cauliflower pasta recipe above, but with eggplant instead and no anchovies.

      yum, i'm getting hungry already!

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        Emme RE: Sharon Sep 4, 2008 06:35 PM

        take cauliflower and cook til very soft; puree with some skim (or regular cream cheese), and thin with skim milk. sautee and caramelize some onions and garlic, then mix into the cauliflower puree along with whatever herbs you have on hand.

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          miss louella RE: Sharon Jul 28, 2010 08:17 AM

          I do this same thing but use broccoli instead of cauliflower. Just in case you're a small fish hater, when I ask people to identify the secret ingredient, they never guess anchovy--always think it's parmesan.

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            chicgail RE: Sharon Jul 15, 2011 12:33 PM

            I would take your recipe (ok Marcella's recipe) and roast the cauliflower in a little olive oil, season it well. Then I would add some breadcrumbs to the garlic and anchovies sauteing in the olive oil and then sprinkle it on top of the pasta and roasted cauliflower before I served it.

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            Deenso RE: Fida Apr 27, 2005 03:46 PM

            How about a simple garlic and olive oil sauce? Add-ins could be steamed or sauteed fresh or frozen veggies and/or halved cherry or grape tomatoes - veggies in small pieces, cooked 'til tender. (Better yet if you've got left-overs in the fridge.) Perhaps topped with some shaved or grated cheese, a sprinkle of salt and a healthy grind of black pepper. If you like a little heat, toss in some red pepper flakes when sauteing the veggies.

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              Evan RE: Deenso Apr 28, 2005 11:54 AM

              One of my favorite pasta dishes is just a simple spaghetti with garlic and oil. Crush a few cloves of garlic and put it with some crushed red pepper and olive oil in a pan and turn the heat up to medium. Cook for a few minutes until the garlic turns light brown. Then add the cooked spaghetti and maybe a little of the pasta cooking water to thin out the sauce. I've also added some bread crumbs to the oil to get some crunchiness in the pasta.

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              kc girl RE: Fida Apr 27, 2005 03:53 PM

              Olive oil, lemon juice whisked together with sliced green olives, diced roasted red peppers, parsely, garlic, salt, white pepper. This is good for hot pasta with cubes of fish or after it's cold as pasta salad.

              Cream cheese and roasted red peppers and cream (to thin), oregano, cayenne pepper and salt. Melt together and blend. Good with hot pasta and steak. Also can be used with pasta and vegetables.

              Juice from the drippings of pan-roasting a steak. Saute mushrooms (in another pan) in butter, add garlic, Cavendar's Greek spice. Add some cream cheese (or mascarpone) to the drippings and melt in and whisk smooth. Add the mushroom mixture. You can also do this with white onions with or in plkace of mushrooms. Good drizzled on mushroom ravioli with the steak. (If you need more beef drippings, use some canned beef consomme, but don't try it without real drippings and just the consomme).

              And, spinach is good as a side dish with both.

              Both of these recipes with allow diced fresh tomaotes to be stirred in just before serving without it seeming like a tomato pasta sauce. Tomatoes have lycopene and vitamin C.

              Alfredo sauce
              Pesto sauce

              Northen Italian recipes are often not tomato based.

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                Kelli2006 RE: kc girl Aug 26, 2012 01:02 PM

                What she said.
                Most Americans think that Italian food means pasta covered with red sauce but in truth it is not that way.
                One of my favorites is white wine and lemon, or a simple browned butter with garlic and herb of your choice.

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                AimeeP RE: Fida Apr 27, 2005 03:55 PM

                Drained canned tuna, capers, hot peppers, artichokes, EVO and pine nuts.

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                  icey RE: AimeeP Apr 1, 2009 12:31 PM

                  YES! I looove tuna as a pasta sauce. I don't add artichokes, but I will try it the next time. Usually it is tuna, capers, and parsley.

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                    Bigley9 RE: icey May 12, 2009 01:18 PM

                    Tuna and artichokes were made for each other!

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                    IndyGirl RE: AimeeP Mar 9, 2011 03:53 PM

                    Yum. could go for that right now!

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                    Carb Lover RE: Fida Apr 27, 2005 04:27 PM

                    One of my favorite non-tomato, uncooked sauces is EVOO, fresh basil shards, grated parmesan, S&P, and TONS of lemon zest. You obviously have to love lemons. I like to use either spaghetti or linguine. To make it more filling, you could add canned tuna or salmon.

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                      erica RE: Fida Apr 27, 2005 04:48 PM

                      While we are on the subject, can anyone suggest an easy pasta sauce with the container of ricotta sitting in my frig. With some kind of veggies, too.

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                        kc girl RE: erica Apr 27, 2005 05:42 PM

                        Ricotta doesn't typically make a good sauce because of its consistency, IMO. But, you can if you want.

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                          athina RE: kc girl Sep 4, 2008 12:29 PM

                          I disagree about the Ricotta not making a good sauce. It can be delicious with crumbled italian sausage, and caramelized onions. Also tossed with peas and prosciutto. I will be making a mushroom pasta sauce tonight (I found dried mushrooms for $2.50/pkg!) I will rehydrate mushrooms in hot water. Cook up some bacon, or pancetta in olive oil, add chopped shallots and garlic. cook until transluscent. add chopped rehydrated mushrooms. Add mushroom liquid, stock or white wine to deglaze. add fresh herbs (thyme, basil, sage, parsley) add heavy cream and halved grape tomatoes (i have a billion in my garden right now) serve with parmigiano reggiano Buono appetito!!!

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                            chef chicklet RE: athina May 11, 2009 10:29 PM

                            Oh yes I agree! Make a smoosh of garlic or a paste, with olive oil and salt, add to that some parmesean, and then some cream or milk.mix with the ricotta cheese. Then toss your pasta. Adding basil, or parsely, it's wonderful, I use this sauce to layer a vegetarian lasagne. Well vegetarian to me, I'm not a "true" vegetarian, I just mean an all vegetable lasagne. Delicious.

                            Or olive oil and butter, white wine, lemon juice, shallots, garlic,parsley, salt and pepper

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                          LindaH RE: erica Apr 27, 2005 07:33 PM

                          I had an Italian roommate who would often dump fresh ricotta on hot pasta along with some fresh chopped tomato and fresh basil. She'd just toss it together with salt, pepper and a little parmesean and it was very tasty. Sometimes she would add some leftover chopped broccoli. Another time I recall she added leftover green peas and some chopped mushrooms and I think either some prosuitto or sauteed pancetta (bacon would work, too). Again, very good.

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                            vicki_vale RE: erica Apr 27, 2005 10:52 PM

                            Bake your pasta.

                            Throw in some frozen spinach or peas, shake some parmesean. Stir in a dollop of ricotta and beaten eggs and tons of fresh chopped parsley, plus salt, pepper, nutmeg.

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                              mbfant RE: erica Sep 5, 2008 08:57 AM

                              It couldn’t be easier, but you need very good-quality ricotta and pasta. While the pasta (short format, not spaghetti) is boiling, mush the ricotta in a warmed serving bowl with a wooden spoon. After the pasta is about half done and is throwing off starch, add some spoonfuls of its water to the ricotta and keep poking with the wooden spoon (you can also put it through a food mill, but you waste a lot). Add some freshly ground pepper and mix in some generous handfuls of freshly grated parmigiano. When the pasta is done, drain and mix it into the ricotta and serve without further ado.

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                                IndyGirl RE: erica Mar 9, 2011 03:53 PM

                                I realize you've probably eaten your ricotta by no (six years later!) but I love ricotta on a pizza.

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                                EAF RE: Fida Apr 27, 2005 04:49 PM

                                Make a basic white sauce:
                                make a roux of melted butter and flour add milk/cream
                                Add parmesan cheese = Alfredo sauce enjoy over pasta with chicken, ham, veggies

                                Use beef broth and Add worcestershire and mushrooms then thicken with sour cream = Stroganoff enjoy over pasta with shredded beef

                                Most cream of soups (muchroom, chicken, celery) make a great quick base for non-tomato sauces (although tomato soup works, too)

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                                  jbeck RE: Fida Apr 27, 2005 04:54 PM

                                  Whenever I don't have many ingredients in the fridge or just don't feel like cooking to much, I make this version of cacio e pepe:
                                  Heat up equal amounts (about 2 tablespoons) butter and olive oil, and lots of freshly ground pepper. Add a tablespoon or two of teh pasta cooking water, then add the pasta to the pan and stir. Once it's covered in the sauce, take off the heat and stir in plenty of freshly grated parmesan and some salt. Enjoy!

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                                    coll RE: jbeck Sep 30, 2010 05:15 AM

                                    I just discovered Cacio e Pepe (wow this thread is old!) it is the easiest thing in the world. Just as above, use really good cheese and Italian butter if you can get, cracked pepper is better than ground, and to gild the lily, I topped with a drizzle of truffle oil (just because I have a new jar). A new favorite, thanks to No Reservations.

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                                      dkennedy RE: coll Mar 13, 2011 01:49 PM

                                      I make the Cacio e Pepe sauce above but I don't use butter, I either go with truffle oil, or walnut oil. Both are wonderful. They also are great topped with a handful of fresh arugula and toasted pine nuts.

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                                    Jane Hathaway RE: Fida Apr 27, 2005 06:14 PM

                                    These really aren't sauces, but I make them fairly often:

                                    -This one is for when I don't feel like cooking: toss pasta with butter, toasted pine nuts, salt and pepper

                                    -Whisk together lemon juice, olive oil and s&p. Add some sliced avocado, toasted pine nuts, some feta and sliced green onions. It may not sound like much, but my husband asks for it all the time. Sometimes I make sort of a Mexican version with lime juice instead of lemon, Queso Fresco instead of feta, toasted pepitos instead of the pine nuts and add some black beans and corn (preferably dry-roasted in a hot skillet) and maybe some cilantro.

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                                      BookGirl RE: Fida Apr 27, 2005 08:50 PM

                                      Nigella Lawson made a simple pasta sauce with garlic olive oil and pancetta. I can't remember the exact recipe but it went something like this:

                                      - Equal quantities of pancetta and pasta - I use 8 ounces. Enough for two servings.
                                      - Garlic olive oil 2 Tbs or so - you can add more as needed

                                      Oven at 400 or 500.

                                      Cut the pancetta into cubes and combine with garlic olive oil in a baking dish.

                                      When the water for the pasta comes to a boil put the pancetta in the oven and the pasta in the water. By the time the pasta's done the pancetta should be as well. Save some of the pasta water in case you need it to loosen up the pasta. Combine the pasta with the pancetta and make sure it's fully coated. You can top with parmesan.

                                      It tastes great and is easy to make. I keep the pancetta in the freezer and make this when I want something home cooked but don't want to put in much effort. My grocer sells pancetta sliced thinly in packaged bags so I cut it into ribbons instead of cubes - if find it's easier to eat with linquine or any other long pasta strand.

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                                        kristen RE: Fida Apr 28, 2005 04:16 AM

                                        saute some onions in olive oil/butter till they get really gooey and caramelized. Add garlic about 3 or 4 minutes in, if you want. you can add a variety of vegs to this. i've tried cauliflower, broccoli, zucchini, mushrooms, peas, chillies... cut the vegetable up small and let it just cook thorough. add in your cooked pasta and stir. season with salt and pepper and whatever herbs you like (depending on the vegs, maybe thyme, basil, marjoram). take off the heat and add cheese. i love to add a really soft cheese, like taleggio, because it melts easily and makes the dish very rich and flavorful.

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                                          kate RE: kristen Apr 28, 2005 01:58 PM

                                          marcella's smothered onions are like this - only take an hour and require no constant stirring from you.
                                          1.5 pounds onions, finely sliced, 2TBS olive oil, 2TBS butter, pinch salt. Chuck it all together in a pot, put over very low heat, cover and leave for 45min. Uncover pan, turn to med-high heat, until onions are golden-brown. Season, add 1/2glass white wine, and stir until evaporated. This is quite sweet, so at the very least needs some chopped parsley to balance it. Other additions:
                                          crumbled blue cheese, or browned sausage meat. Mmm...

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                                          kc girl RE: Fida Apr 28, 2005 10:44 AM

                                          I've recently been enjoying Dreamfields pasta and allowing myself to eat pasta more often. So, I've been experimenting with all kinds of sauces besides tomatoe based.

                                          Basically can put just about anything with pasta since it is a neutral flavor. There is a book by James Peterson entitled "Sauces" and you might find that inspiring.

                                          Just this morning, I used the rest of the elbow pasta from yesterday (Dreamfelds again) and made this sauce to pour on it:

                                          TBsp butter and saute 1 TBsp green onion
                                          Add
                                          2 oz Neufchatel
                                          1/4 C. lite coconut milk
                                          1/8 tsp white pepper
                                          1/8 tsp salt
                                          1/16 tsp and a dash of Chinese Five Spice
                                          Stir to blend smooth
                                          then placed beside the rest of the poached salmon in a bowl with the pasta and poured the thin liquid over the elbow macaroni pasta.
                                          You can also make it in the microwave if you want.
                                          Serves two, depending

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                                            Dcfoodblog RE: kc girl Aug 26, 2012 08:37 AM

                                            While we're going the Asian route, a satay dip makes a great sauce for pasta.

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                                            melissa RE: Fida Apr 28, 2005 11:54 AM

                                            I make a pasta w/porcini mushroom sauce from Cook's Illustrated, this is the recipe from my memory:
                                            rehydrate 2 oz. of porcini mushrooms in hot water to cover for 20 minutes. coarsely chop mushrooms and strain liquid. saute a chopped onion in butter/olive oil until soft, add mushrooms, saute a minute, add the reserved liquid, cook about 8 minutes or so, until reduced by about half, add 1/4 c of cream, cook a few minutes, salt, pepper, parsley. toss w/1 lb cooked pasta and some parmesan cheese. serve w/add'l cheese. i like to add truffle oil on top if i have any around. i keep the dried porcinis around for this very purpose, of making a pasta that i don't have to out shopping for.
                                            another good one is pasta w/garlic, capers and bread crumbs, epicurious link below.

                                            Link: http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/rec...

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                                              kate RE: Fida Apr 28, 2005 02:05 PM

                                              If you like roast garlic, it makes a good tomato-free sauce base. EPI has an orzo recipe with it and poppyseeds, which is a lovely side dish.

                                              In Northern Italy, pretty much anything can be a pasta sauce, and most don't have cream or tomatoes (which seem to be a given in pasta sauces I've had in other countries).

                                              Take your veg of choice, and lightly cook it (steam broccoli, fry mushrooms, boil petit pois). Then fry it (if not already fried) in a bit of olive oil, maybe garlic and/or pancetta, S&P. If it is still chunky, mash/puree half of it then mix with the chunky half. Toss with pasta, and maybe a bit of parmesan and parsley.

                                              Simple, and lets the clean veggie flavours do the talking. You can get more complicated, and do more than one vegetable, or add some fried bacon, browned sausage meat, etc. or an interesting cheese (smoked, blue, etc.), or some other herbs or spices, but that's the foundation to work with.

                                              1. Channa RE: Fida Sep 4, 2008 01:24 PM

                                                Saute chopped garlic in the oil from a tin of tuna, then add the tuna, capers, black olives (Italian or Greek, halved), and parsley. Toss with pasta.

                                                1. Gooseberry RE: Fida Sep 4, 2008 02:23 PM

                                                  I find the key is to have good stuff in your freezer. I always have:
                                                  already chopped pancetta
                                                  peas
                                                  chicken stock in 1/2cup containers
                                                  pine nuts
                                                  caramelized onion in 1/2 cup containers

                                                  You can also freeze pesto without the cheese and oil and add those once defrosted.

                                                  My cupboard/freezer pasta specials:

                                                  - sauteed garlic and pancetta, with peas and a soft, fresh cheese (ricotta, mozzarella) or shavings of something a bit older and nutty (love gruyere)

                                                  - Saute onions and garlic. Add some finely sliced beef or veal (optional) and cook, then remove from pan. Saute sliced mushrooms. Return meat to pan (if using) and Add 1/2 cup chicken stock and a generous splash of sherry. Reduce until lightly thickened and velvety. toss in cooked pasta and lump of butter. Sooo yum.

                                                  - Breakfast pasta: Crisped pancetta or bacon, lightly sauted onions and garlic, left over steamed veg if you want. Toss with chopped tomatoes or a small splash tomato sauce or baked beans from a can (classy hmm?) to heat up. Adding a separately scrambled egg optional. Toss with roughly chopped arugula before serving.

                                                  - Make a thick pasta-chickpea soup by sauteing an onion, a bit of garlic (chopped rosemary is a good addition too if you have it) adding a couple tins of drained rinsed chickpeas and covering with stock (or even water - in that case, I like to saute some carrot in there too). Cook until you can mush the chickpeas against pot sides with a wooden spoon. Puree half of this (an immersion blender works well to), add dried pasta (small sturdy shapes best, or broken linguine lengths). Simmer until cooked. Serve with a drizzle of good olive oil and some shavings of hard cheese.

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                                                    brendastarlet RE: Gooseberry Sep 4, 2008 04:00 PM

                                                    The Barefoot Contessa's lemon pasta with argula is amazing. It requires a small container of heavy cream, but you reduce it by half so it is more of a coating than a thick sauce. It's also great cold the next day.

                                                    http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/in...

                                                  2. paulj RE: Fida Sep 4, 2008 05:49 PM

                                                    One of my favorite cookbooks of late has been 'Italy's 500 Best-Ever Recipes', Hermes House Publishing. This a large format, picture book from an UK publisher, which I found at clearance prices at used-book store. It has about 60 pages of pasta recipes, many without tomatoes.

                                                    1. thew RE: Fida Sep 4, 2008 06:12 PM

                                                      olive oil, garlic, anchovies, red pepper...... mmmmmmm

                                                      this summer i've been doing a deconstructed pesto (as well as regular pesto) i cook garlic slow and low in olive oil 'til it softens, toss the pasta w/ the garlic oil, shredded or chiffonaded (?) basil, toasted pine nuts, cheese, lack pepper and salt

                                                      various pestos (not just basil based) and tapenades (olive pesto really) work well

                                                      i often just toss pasta w/ odds and ends... a bit of leftover smoked pork chop, some olives or pepadews, some herb or green, nuts, whatever..... pasta loves leftovers.

                                                      1. Emme RE: Fida Sep 4, 2008 06:37 PM

                                                        coat eggplant slices, onion slices, mushrooms, broccoli, zucchini, etc in garlic salt, then grill til soft and charred-ish, then chop. saute with some balsamic vinegar, soy sauce, garlic, and a little lemon juice and mustard... so simple and so good with pasta or shiritakis...

                                                        1. paulj RE: Fida Sep 4, 2008 06:41 PM

                                                          A while back, when responding to a thread about peposo, an Italian beef shank dish, I found that About.com had a good section on Italian cooking. Here's the pasta and sauces index.

                                                          http://italianfood.about.com/od/pasta...
                                                          Practically at random I picked: Pasta di San Giuseppe, which calls for:
                                                          - spaghetti
                                                          - breadcrumbs
                                                          - olive oil
                                                          - parsley, minced
                                                          - sugar
                                                          - cinnamon
                                                          http://italianfood.about.com/od/cream...

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                                                            lgss RE: Fida Sep 4, 2008 07:08 PM

                                                            We like hummus on/with pasta.

                                                            1. gmm RE: Fida Sep 4, 2008 08:25 PM

                                                              My quick pantry pasta is clam linguine. A couple tablespoons of olive oil, some red pepper flakes and a couple cubes of frozen garlic (I always have this in my freezer - from Trader Joes.) Add one can of chopped clams, let simmer to reduce a few minutes, toss in some parsley, fresh or dried, and serve over linguine.

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                                                                cookingandkitchenstories RE: gmm Apr 1, 2009 12:03 PM

                                                                I second that suggestion. If I want a thicker sauce, I start with a quick roux, just 2 tbs. butter and 2 tbs. flour, cook until golden, then add the garlic, clams, and some white wine. This is probably one of my favorite meals ever.

                                                              2. amyzan RE: Fida Sep 4, 2008 08:58 PM

                                                                I've seen variatons on this in both Nigella Lawson's and Deborah Madison's books. I think it probably Roman in origin? Basically, you warm a few tablespoons of olive oil and cook thinly sliced zucchini with a little salt on medium heat until it begins to disentegrate, about thirty minutes. At this point, I add a quarter cup of whole milk and a generous amount of fresh grated pecorino romano. Add up to a half cup of the salted pasta water if it looks dry, and let the almost cooked pasta spend about three minutes tossed in to absorb and marry the flavors. It's simple but very good. Oh, and it's also great with garlic and/or fresh basil.

                                                                I often sauce pasta with ratatouille or red pepper based sauces, too. Peeled, cubed eggplant can be cooked much the same as the zucchini, as can yellow squash or a mixture of yellow and green. I haven't tried the milk with the eggplant, though, as that somehow seems off. The cauliflower anchovy sauce is great with raisins, too.

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                                                                  Joebob RE: Fida Sep 5, 2008 12:42 AM

                                                                  From the NY Times, 1/31/2007, p. D5:
                                                                  SPAGHETTI AL LIMONE
                                                                  1 lemon
                                                                  1 1/2 cups dry white wine
                                                                  3/4 - 1 1/2 cups heavy cream, to taste
                                                                  1 lb spaghetti
                                                                  3 T butter, in pieces
                                                                  3 1/2 - 4 oz Parmesan cheese, freshly grated
                                                                  1 - 2 T EVOO
                                                                  S&P to taste

                                                                  1. Zest lemon and slice zest into matchsticks. Juice lemon, strain and reserve. Place zest in large nonreactive pan with wine and bring to boil over high heat. Reduce heat to med. high and cook until it reduces to a syrupy mixture, about 1/4 cup, about 10 min.
                                                                  2. Remove from heat and pour in about 1/4 cup of cream. Stir, then pour in remaining cream. Return to stove and bring to boil. Reduce heat and simmer until it is thickened and reduced slightly, about 5 min. Remove from heat.
                                                                  3. Meanwhile, bring large pot of generously salted water to boil. Cook pasta until al dente; reserve 1/2 cup cooking water and drain.
                                                                  4. Return hot pasta pot to stove. Pour in cream, butter and lemon juice, stir, then add hot drained pasta and a few T of cooking water. Toss together and add cheese in 3 or 4 parts, tossing each to meld with sauce. Add more cooking water if sauce is too thick and crumbly.
                                                                  5. Ladle onto plates and drizzle each portion with OO, then add a little salt and pepper.

                                                                  4 - 6 servings

                                                                  1. Jetgirly RE: Fida Sep 6, 2008 02:00 PM

                                                                    Walnut sauce!

                                                                    1. hollyd RE: Fida Apr 1, 2009 09:59 AM

                                                                      I made a nice one last night.
                                                                      Cubed an eggplant and tossed it on a baking sheet with some cherry tomatoes, tossed with olive oil and salt and pepper and roasted it at 400 until nice and soft (20 minutes?). I wrapped three cloves of garlic with the skin still on in some aluminum foil (with olive oil) and threw that on the baking sheet as well.
                                                                      When it cam out I smashed the garlic and tossed it with the pasta, veggies, and a little pasta water. Topped with some parm. Delicious.
                                                                      Could've used some basil, but delicious.

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                                                                        meganmarie RE: Fida Apr 1, 2009 01:17 PM

                                                                        pancetta and broccoli or pancetta/parsnips are great combos -- cook them down as the water is boiling and just toss all the pasta in the pan of cooked veg when it's al dente with a bit of the pasta water.

                                                                        1. MsDiPesto RE: Fida May 11, 2009 07:59 PM

                                                                          A friend made this for me shortly after the recipe was published, a great warm weather pasta recipe:
                                                                          From the Washington Post, May 15, 2002:

                                                                          Tagliolini Alla Erbe (Tagliolini With Lemon, Basil, Oregano and Marjoram)

                                                                          Tagliolini Alla Erbe (Tagliolini With Lemon, Basil, Oregano and Marjoram)
                                                                          The Washington Post, May 15, 2002
                                                                          Cuisine: Italian
                                                                          Course: Main Course
                                                                          Features: Fast, Meatless
                                                                          Summary:

                                                                          Traditionally served as a first course, this lightly dressed pasta can also make a meal on a sultry evening.

                                                                          The pasta is only speckled with herbs; you could easily double the amount of sauce ingredients and not overdo it. Or make extra sauce and reserve some to toss with seared shrimp or sea scallops, and serve atop the pasta.

                                                                          "Some herbs, such as sage, rosemary and bay leaves, can withstand long cooking. For this recipe, however, the dressing is to be prepared raw, in order to preserve as much as possible the flavor of these more delicate herbs. The choice of the pasta, tagliolini (flat, thin fresh noodles), is also meant to keep the taste of the pasta from overwhelming the flavors of the dressing."

                                                                          4 servings

                                                                          Ingredients:
                                                                          Pinch salt
                                                                          2 large strips lemon zest, or to taste
                                                                          1 clove garlic, peeled
                                                                          20 basil leaves
                                                                          1 tablespoon chopped flat-leaf parsley
                                                                          1 1/2 teaspoons chopped fresh oregano
                                                                          1 1/2 teaspoons chopped fresh marjoram
                                                                          1 pound fresh tagliolini or tagliarini pasta (may substitute dried spaghettini or vermicelli)
                                                                          1/3 cup extra-virgin olive oil

                                                                          Directions:

                                                                          Bring a large pot of salted water to a boil.

                                                                          Meanwhile, on a large cutting board, chop together the lemon zest and garlic. Add the basil, parsley, oregano and marjoram, and mince until the mixture is of uniform size. (The amount of herbs depends largely on personal preference, but err on the side of excess.)

                                                                          Meanwhile, cook the pasta according to package directions. When it is done, use a large fork to transfer it to a bowl (rather than draining it through a colander, which would cause it to clump together). Sprinkle the herb mixture onto the pasta, drizzle with the oil, toss and serve immediately.

                                                                          Recipe Source:
                                                                          From "Soffritto: Tradition and Innovation in Tuscan Cooking" by Benedetta Vitali

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                                                                            hotoynoodle RE: MsDiPesto May 12, 2009 07:03 AM

                                                                            good pasta will not clump.

                                                                            i make a similar dish, but with fresh lemon juice as well. when basil is abundant, i chop that with some fresh mint. cook the pasta. drain. into the hot pot add lemon juice from 2 or 3 lemons, their zest, olive oil, salt, lots of black pepper and red chili flake and the chopped herbs. toss in the pasta and combine everything. cover and let sit a few minutes so the pasta absorbs the juice. grated pecorino on top, possibly prosciutto, and you're good to go.

                                                                          2. Phood RE: Fida May 11, 2009 08:12 PM

                                                                            I can't compete with the delicious recipes here, butt presuming you have butter and parmesean, and can handle the cholesterol, my favoriteSaveur magazine recipe is the following :

                                                                            Mixing the ingredients on a warmed platter will help them melt quickly to make a satiny sauce. For the best results, use dried pasta, which doesn't break as easily during tossing as fresh egg pasta does.
                                                                            1 lb. dried fettuccine
                                                                            1⁄2 lb. unsalted butter (2 sticks)
                                                                            1⁄2 lb. finely grated parmesan (about 3 1⁄4 cup)
                                                                            1. Bring a 6-qt. pot of salted water to a boil. Add fettuccine and cook, stirring occasionally, until pasta is al dente, about 8 minutes.
                                                                            2. Meanwhile, cut butter into thin pats and transfer to a large, warmed platter. Drain pasta, reserving 3⁄4 cup pasta water, and place the pasta over the butter on the platter.
                                                                            3. Sprinkle grated parmesan over the pasta and drizzle with 1⁄4 cup of the reserved pasta water.
                                                                            4. Using a large spoon and fork, gently toss the pasta with the butter and cheese, lifting and swirling the noodles and adding more pasta water as necessary. (The pasta water will help create a smooth sauce.) Work in any melted butter and cheese that pools around the edges of the platter. Continue to mix the pasta until the cheese and butter have fully melted and the noodles are coated, about 3 minutes. (For a quicker preparation, bring the reserved 3⁄4 cup pasta water and the butter to a boil in a 12" skillet; then add the pasta, sprinkle with the cheese, and toss with tongs over medium-low heat until the pasta is creamy and coated, about 2 minutes.)
                                                                            5. Serve the fettuccine immediately on warmed plates.

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                                                                              snowles RE: Fida May 12, 2009 07:41 AM

                                                                              One of my favourites is simply browning a stick of butter over medium heat, adding it to some cooked noodles and loading it up with Parmigiano-Reggiano - serve a couple of barbecued Italian sausages and a light salad on the side, and you've got some good eats.

                                                                              It will probably give you a coronary, but meh...

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                                                                                kramos RE: snowles May 12, 2009 11:55 AM

                                                                                There are some awesome non-tomato based sauces on CHOW that you should check out. A couple of my favorites are Linguine with Clams and Chorizo: http://www.chow.com/recipes/14121 and Beet Greens and Feta Pasta: http://www.chow.com/recipes/11402.

                                                                              2. Paula76 RE: Fida May 12, 2009 02:50 PM

                                                                                I made some pasta tonight with a spinach and asparagus pesto that was simply divine. I mixed boiled asparagus (not the tips, which I used for serving), chopped raw spinach leaves, roasted almonds, olive oil, lemon juice, salt and pepper.

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                                                                                  Chrmd RE: Fida Jul 27, 2010 11:56 PM

                                                                                  I found this recipe in a Fit Pregnancy magazine back in '96 and now that we are cutting tomatoes out of my husband's diet, we're finding all different ways to spice it up.

                                                                                  2 jars of roasted bell pepper
                                                                                  1 - 1 1/2 cups chicken broth

                                                                                  puree in a blender add seasonings as needed and serve over pasta and meat.

                                                                                  The other night I added garlic powder, onion powder, basil, thyme and oregano and served it over spaghetti and meatballs. Usually, tho, I only add basil and thyme and serve it over penne pasta and kielbasa sausage sauted in garlic and oil. :0)

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                                                                                    miss louella RE: Fida Jul 28, 2010 08:21 AM

                                                                                    Pasta Verde by Judith Barrett is a cookbook chock full of non-tomato pasta sauces. Haven't found a dud yet. Highly recommended.

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                                                                                      jindomommy RE: Fida Sep 29, 2010 11:52 PM

                                                                                      My old boss from Northern Italy would saute shrimp with onions and garlic, remove, deglaze the pan with wine then add clam broth, a little vodka and half and half and reduce. Throw in capers and red bell pepper and then toss in angel hair and the shrimp. Sprinkle with Italian parsley No parmesan. He said it was a "sin" to put cheese on seafood. Too die for.

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                                                                                        jdub1371 RE: Fida Oct 6, 2010 08:02 PM

                                                                                        Saute some garlic in olive oil until just fragrant. Add a drained can of sardines (the good stuff, in olive oil), chunked up, some lemon juice, a little grated lemon peel and chopped Italian parsley. Grind in some black pepper, and add a little salt if needed. The first time I made this I thought it would be fishy, but it wasn't, and I was shocked at how good it was over spaghetti.

                                                                                        Bittman does it with soft-cooked onions and capers, and I think I will try it that way next time.

                                                                                        1. ChefBoyAreMe RE: Fida Oct 7, 2010 03:23 PM

                                                                                          Vermicelli con proscuitto i piselli:

                                                                                          Saute a large onion, chopped fine in 1/2 butter, 1/2 olive oil. Add 1/4 lb or more coarsely chopped prosciutto slices (or pancetta, or in pinch, American bacon). When softened, add 1 cup white wine and simmer a few mins. Add about 1/2 bag frozen petite peas, and 1/2 cup chicken stock, plus fresh ground pepper. Salt usually not needed, given prosciutto and stock. Reserve some of the pasta cooking water, then toss with vermicelli, adding back some of the water if needed.

                                                                                          Top with grated cheese and fresh ground pepper

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                                                                                            magstermalone RE: Fida Oct 25, 2010 08:47 AM

                                                                                            I posted this back in August on another post regarding roasted red peppers. I have a friend who is allergic to tomatoes and this is a great substitute! Hope you like it!

                                                                                            I have an amazing recipe that I have made over and over again and I'm never tired of it. You will need:

                                                                                            *shrimp (thawed, shell removed and deveined)
                                                                                            *cooked pasta - fresh pasta is amazing, but penne or bowties pasta is fantastic too
                                                                                            For sauce:
                                                                                            1 jar of roasted red peppers - use enough to make 2 peppers (or more!)
                                                                                            crushed garlic (2 cloves)
                                                                                            2 tbsp of cream cheese
                                                                                            1/4 cup of chicken stock
                                                                                            1/4 or more of parmesan cheese
                                                                                            olive oil (about 1/4 cup)
                                                                                            red pepper flakes - to taste
                                                                                            In a food pro or blender, combine all ingredients above until mixed thoroughly.

                                                                                            in a separate pan, add a bit of butter, and some crushed garlic and about 8-10 shrimp (shell removed and deveined). Cook shrimp until opaque, add sauce and heat through.
                                                                                            Mix with cooked pasta. Sprinkle with some fresh basil and some more parmesan!
                                                                                            You will LOVE this...

                                                                                            NOTE: you can omit the butter and add about 2 pieces of chopped up bacon, crisp up a bit before adding shrimp and garlic. Another delicious variation..add scallops instead of shrimp!

                                                                                            Bon appetite!

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                                                                                              Floridagirl RE: magstermalone Jul 8, 2011 09:37 AM

                                                                                              That looks delicious. How much pasta is that for?

                                                                                            2. Veggie Liv RE: Fida Dec 21, 2010 11:44 AM

                                                                                              Mmm, I make this about twice a week because my boyfriend and I just can't get enough of it: Just saute garlic and shallots in some good olive oil and then add a bit of veggie stock and some of the pasta water. Sometimes I deglaze the pan with some dry white wine before adding the vegetable stock. Let that simmer for a bit and reduce. Season with salt and fresh pepper or some fresh herbs.

                                                                                              If you're looking for something a bit more substantial (but not feeling the usual cream sauce), try a bit of cream cheese and lemon juice. My recipe is here: http://www.nibbledish.com/people/Vegg...

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                                                                                                bobcam90 RE: Fida Jul 7, 2011 01:38 PM

                                                                                                I made this for a grain/pasta combo but it would be good with pasta alone, I think. Combine olive oil, vinegar ( I used sherry), capers, minced jalpenos and onions, a little mustard, chopped arugula and basil. When the pasta is done, strain and dump into the bowl. Adjust seasonings. Sprinkle with some toasted pinenuts. Oh, right, I also added some thyme leaves cause I had them. What I'm liking about this is that it's whatever I want it to be and most of those things I have on hand all the time.

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                                                                                                  isamack RE: Fida Jul 8, 2011 09:15 AM

                                                                                                  Lots of great suggestions below!

                                                                                                  Note: if someone has to avoid tomatoes, most likely they cannot eat peppers (of any kind) or eggplant either as they are all in the same family. I miss them but I do not miss the tiredness, mental fog and arthitris!

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                                                                                                    Floridagirl RE: Fida Jul 8, 2011 09:31 AM

                                                                                                    Any veg tossed with pasta is great, leftover or freshly cooked. I love onions and garlic so I saute those in olive oil, add the veg, maybe anchovies, crushed red pepper, add pasta and some pasta water and you're good to go. Chickpeas are good too. I love peas so maybe I add some frozen peas. Leftover meat or fish are great additions. I just made one with shredded leftover chicken that had some bell pepper sauce on it, peas, bacon, and pasta water. To me, those types of pasta dishes are the best because you can have fun with the ingredients and use up what's in the fridge.

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                                                                                                      lgss RE: Fida Jul 19, 2011 03:55 AM

                                                                                                      www.nomato.com/products.htm
                                                                                                      The ingredient list here might give you ideas.

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                                                                                                        taurus30 RE: lgss Jul 19, 2011 08:36 PM

                                                                                                        I just found out about Cacio e Pepe on America's test kitchen last Sunday. Of course I had to make it last night and it was delicious. The only problem I had and is common is the cheese clumping on me. I might try wisking the hot pasta water with the cheese then adding it to the pasta. Any thoughts?

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                                                                                                          paulj RE: taurus30 Sep 8, 2011 06:36 PM

                                                                                                          I think we talked about ways of avoiding clumping in the 'best cheese for mac and cheese' thread

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                                                                                                        taurus30 RE: Fida Jul 20, 2011 03:16 PM

                                                                                                        I make spaghetti with oil & garlic which is my favorite. I'll give you guys a heads up I learned from my (Italian) Mom. I saute anchovies till they dissolve, and you do not taste them. Add your olive oil, garlic and add some pasta water, then pasta. I finish it off with toasted bread crumbs and parsely.

                                                                                                        I do it similar for linquine and white clam sauce but add the clams and drizzle lemon juice over it.

                                                                                                        Another popular one is cavatelli and broccoli. It's oil & garlic base but I add chopped onion to it also. Enjoy!

                                                                                                        BTW, I just found out about Cacio e Pepe, made it last night. This is a Roman dish that is very popular. Although a simple dish, it's tricky to not have the cacio (cheese) clump up.

                                                                                                        1. mamachef RE: Fida Jul 20, 2011 05:08 PM

                                                                                                          I just wrote about this...but jarred marinated artichoke hearts sauteed with garlic and black olives and then tossed with your pasta and some feta is really, really good. Mushrooms are great in this also. You can also saute best-quality oil--packed tuna with some mushrooms and a little garlic, and then toss it into pasta with a handful of crunchy breadcrumbs and some capers and a tot of lemon zest. Yum.

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                                                                                                            Matahari22 RE: Fida Jul 20, 2011 06:18 PM

                                                                                                            I cannot have tomatoes often because of the acidity, so my pasta dishes are usually made with out tomatoes.  

                                                                                                            I always made sausage and peppers, but instead of sandwhiches, I always served mine over spaghetti.  

                                                                                                            Creamed spinach often serves as my Alfredo sauce replacement.   Healthier, and doesn't need as much cheese to be flavorful.  

                                                                                                            Broccoli and or broccoli rabe with olive oil and garlic, a bit of the pasta water.  Cook the spaghetti in broken 2" pieces in the water you cooked the broccoli in.  Top with locatelli Romano cheese. 

                                                                                                            Wild Mushroom Sauce.  Olive oil, shallots, a mix of mushrooms, sweet Marsala wine, thyme, butter and cream.  Top with cheese and chopped flat leaf parsley. 

                                                                                                            Spinach Pesto.  2 cups spinach leaves, 1/2 cup parsley, 1/2 cup walnuts, 3 cloves garlic, 1/2 cup EVOO, and pinch salt.  

                                                                                                            Roasted garlic, mixed with fresh chopped herbs. 

                                                                                                            Basil Cream Sauce with toasted pine nuts. 

                                                                                                            Make a Bagna Cauda and toss it with spaghetti.  

                                                                                                            I love an olive pesto over angel hair.  

                                                                                                            How about linguini and clams or mussels?

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                                                                                                              matt34145 RE: Fida Sep 8, 2011 04:55 PM

                                                                                                              My two favorite are this one:

                                                                                                              http://glutenfreedairyfreenj.blogspot... a blend of sweet potatoes, carrots, beets and spices

                                                                                                              and this one:

                                                                                                              http://www.foodlivingandeverythingels... a roasted red pepper sauce .

                                                                                                              The first is more complicated but I like the blend of multiple vegetables. Both are delicious!

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                                                                                                                mtaylor733 RE: Fida Aug 1, 2012 06:39 PM

                                                                                                                On the note of cauliflower, I love this sauce with cauliflower but you could add this whole dish to pasta or omit the cauliflower.

                                                                                                                Bake cauliflower cut to keep steak like whole slices by cutting in half, then slice wedges with flat sides. Salt and Pepper. Lay down flat on olive oil and bake until browned on one side, then flip and brown on the other adding more olive oil if necessary. While cauliflower roasts cube bread and toss with olive oil for homemade croutons, and bake those till crispy.

                                                                                                                Meanwhile, the sauce. Bring butter to medium heat until it turns to brown butter. Off heat add one squeezed lemon, whole grain mustard, capers, salt and pepper to taste. Toss with cauliflower chopping if desired. Toss with croutons and top with chopped parsley. I often add homemade pasta to make this a whole meal. Divine.

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                                                                                                                  Bigley9 RE: Fida Aug 3, 2012 10:30 AM

                                                                                                                  Just thought about an old friend - Angel hair or thin spaghetti tossed with marinated articoke hearts, feta cheese (or ricotta salata) and handfuls of parsley - delish and easy!

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                                                                                                                    thimes RE: Fida Aug 3, 2012 11:56 AM

                                                                                                                    You have lots of ideas.

                                                                                                                    I will put out "Walnut Sauce" again since it is very yummy and not something most people think about.

                                                                                                                    Essentially - walnuts, garlic, cream, parm cheese all put in a blender - very tasty

                                                                                                                    I also in a pinch have been using Boursin cheese for sauces. It has a very nice light herby quality to it, unlike heavier cheese sauces. Just heat it with some cream or chicken stock to think it to a sauce consistency and put over pasta with fresh veggies or even just as a sauce over chicken . . . .

                                                                                                                    1. Father Kitchen RE: Fida Aug 6, 2012 05:21 PM

                                                                                                                      One of our favorites isn't really a sauce at all. Fry up some bread crumbs in a bit of olive oil. Add toss with the pasta. Add some black olives or herbs if you like. You can flavor the oil first with garlic, too.

                                                                                                                      For more very good ideas, see Erica de Mane's Pasta Improvvisata--in English in spite of the Italian title. It is widely available used and is a wonderful book. For example, one recipe involved dicing finely fennel root, carrots, celery and what not and sautéing them briefly before tossing with pasta. I think she may have deglazed the pan with a bit of vodka. We had a house full of international guests once and I was cooking dinner for about 25 people. I made pasta with those root vegetables and a big pot of pork and apple stew from the Silva-Browning cookbook. To my amazement, it was all eaten up, but one half of the crowd ate only the pasta, intended as a first course, and the other half ate only the stew.

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                                                                                                                        foodeditormargaux RE: Father Kitchen Aug 26, 2012 04:49 AM

                                                                                                                        Buon Giorno, Good Morning,

                                                                                                                        New Member in Italia has some suggestions, though some maybe already mentioned.

                                                                                                                        1) Pasta con Pesto alla Genovese: pineuts, fresh basil, garlic and Evoo prepared in Mortar with pestle the traditional way

                                                                                                                        2) Ragù di Emilia Romagna: Evoo, minced onion. sweet Italian sausage, pancetta, ground veal, ground pork, garlic, white wine, milk, tomatoes, chicken or veal stock, sugar, salt, black fresh pepper ground, carrot, celery.

                                                                                                                        3) Cassola di Sardinia: shellfish, Evoo, shallot or scallion, dried red chili pepper. salt and blk. fresh ground pepper, shellfish or fish stock, tomatoes, basil and Italian day old baguette.

                                                                                                                        4) Carbonara: pancetta, egg yolks, cream, Reggiano Parmesano, egg whites, Evoo.

                                                                                                                        5) Mushrooms & Cream: butter, shallot, mushrooms available, cream, Port Wine served drizzled on Tortellini filled with Veal or Beef and / or Pork.

                                                                                                                        6) Pesto Rosso: Red Pesto, is prepared with sun dried tomatoes, pinenuts, garlic, Reggiano Parmesano and Evoo.

                                                                                                                        7) Vongole ( with clams ): butter, fresh clams, onion, celery, thyme swig, parsley fresh, lemon, garlic, white wine.

                                                                                                                        8) Primavera: vegetable stock, leeks, onion or spring onion, fava beans or lima beans, asparagus, carrots, sweet peas, Reggiano Parmesano, cream, parsley, mint herb and egg yolks.

                                                                                                                        9) Puttanesca

                                                                                                                        10) Alfredo

                                                                                                                        11) Bolognese

                                                                                                                        12) Fennel and Goatcheese

                                                                                                                        13) Marinara

                                                                                                                        14) Fra Diavolo

                                                                                                                        15) Ciopinno served on Angel Hair or Linguini ( personal preference choice )

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                                                                                                                          foodeditormargaux RE: foodeditormargaux Aug 26, 2012 04:54 AM

                                                                                                                          Apologies, a few are made with tomato. I had a mishap ...

                                                                                                                          Numbers: 15, 14, 13, 11, 6, 3 = tomato as ingredient included

                                                                                                                          Sorry, for accident.
                                                                                                                          Margaux.

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                                                                                                                            foodeditormargaux RE: foodeditormargaux Aug 26, 2012 05:01 AM

                                                                                                                            Here are a couple without Tomato, and apologies once again for the ones I had added with tomato; see post below:

                                                                                                                            Safrron, Spinach & Ricotta:
                                                                                                                            saffron, spinach, Ricotta home made, cream, butter and milk, nutmeg & Reggiano Parmesano

                                                                                                                            Lasagne al Fruti di Mar ( with seafood ) and Bechamel ( no tomato - optional )

                                                                                                                            Gorgonzola with Cream

                                                                                                                            Evoo, garlic, salt & dried red chili flakes or chili pepper fresh, Parsley and Reggiano Parmesano.

                                                                                                                            Best regards. Margaux Cintrano.

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                                                                                                                              coll RE: foodeditormargaux Aug 27, 2012 04:27 AM

                                                                                                                              Thanks for all these great ideas!

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                                                                                                                              Karl S RE: foodeditormargaux Aug 26, 2012 09:55 AM

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                                                                                                                          2. Gio RE: Fida Aug 26, 2012 06:17 AM

                                                                                                                            Seven years since this thread first began and no one has mentioned Asian versions of non-tomato noodle/pasta dishes... such as:

                                                                                                                            Spicy Sesame Noodles with Chopped Peanuts and Thai Basil (or Cilantro)- Deborah Madison has a particularly tasty recipe in her cookbook, "The Savory Way".

                                                                                                                            For example here's a list with other combinations:
                                                                                                                            http://newsletters.cookstr.com/2010/1...

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                                                                                                                              ChrisOfStumptown RE: Gio Aug 26, 2012 10:22 AM

                                                                                                                              "Pasta" to me means Italian style noodles. Especially since the poster wanted non-carbonara recipes.

                                                                                                                              When it comes to quick throw-together asian noodle dishes, udon is one of my favorites. You need dried seaweed, dried fish flakes, soy sauce, mirin, and noodles. Done in 30 minutes.

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                                                                                                                                Gio RE: ChrisOfStumptown Aug 26, 2012 10:49 AM

                                                                                                                                Well yes, I got that but Sometimes the two are pretty much interchangeable depending on the "style" of the recipe. Just giving the OP something else to think about...

                                                                                                                                My favorite Asian noodle these days is soba after cooking a few Japanese recipes when we cooked from Japanese books during COTM February 2012. I use them when a recipe calls for buckwheat noodles and have been pleasantly surprised at how well they worked.

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                                                                                                                                  ChrisOfStumptown RE: Gio Aug 26, 2012 08:50 PM

                                                                                                                                  There's a funny thing about Japanese cooking, is that despite how common it is, very few Americans know how to do a very simple thing like make dashi. None of my foodie friends have known, despite the fact it is two ingredients plus water, and do-able in half an hour. But of course these people can make far more difficult Asian dishes.

                                                                                                                                  I'm just saying cooks would be better off just knowing how to make a simple dashi. From there it's a stone's throw to miso soup, udon or soba noodle soups, and all the other things you could use dashi for. The soups, though are very adaptable, and they are often throw-together dishes for me, especially in colder months.

                                                                                                                                  From your comments about soba, you use these in place of Italian style buckwheat noodles. Is that right? Soba are the only buckwheat noodles I have ever used. I used to use soba and udon interchangeably in soup, but once I started using the more premium dried udon, I mostly gave up soba noodles. Good dried Japanese udon is inmy opinion better than the vacuum packed American udon.

                                                                                                                                  So if you don't mind, what kinds of things do you do with soba noodles?

                                                                                                                            2. SWISSAIRE RE: Fida Aug 26, 2012 10:45 AM

                                                                                                                              I have been enjoying this thread, and have learned a number of good recipes here in the process which we have added to our kitchen recipe tablet.

                                                                                                                              I saw this recipe on the internet and found it to be an excellent recipe. So simple, only a few items ( Bucatini pasta, panchetta, leek, rosemary ), and very tasty and satisfying. Attached is a video link for the prep and cooking, start to finish All credit to Tulio's restaurant in Seattle, USA, and Nick Stellino:

                                                                                                                              http://www.nickstellino.com/video.asp...

                                                                                                                              The comments made above by ofther CH members regarding a heavy use of Ricotta are also mirrored in this recipe. Light "dollops" of Ricotta are suggested around the dish, but in our view are not needed. The recipe is that good.

                                                                                                                               
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                                                                                                                                angelsmom RE: Fida Aug 27, 2012 11:23 AM

                                                                                                                                My favorite....
                                                                                                                                http://theitaliandishblog.com/importe...

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                                                                                                                                  SWISSAIRE RE: angelsmom Aug 27, 2012 12:34 PM

                                                                                                                                  What an excellent link ! Thanks.

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                                                                                                                                  JudiAU RE: Fida Aug 27, 2012 11:46 AM

                                                                                                                                  Pasta with tuna. Slowly saute onions with a bit of garlic, splash of both vermouth and white wine, mashed anchovies and chili flake, S&P, add good quality tuna plus its oil and take off the heat. Toss with the pasta and some parsley and a bit of lemon juice. I usually add some peas or saute chard with the onion.

                                                                                                                                  1. tiffeecanoe RE: Fida Aug 27, 2012 12:01 PM

                                                                                                                                    One of my favorites... maybe because I typically have pesto in the freezer... is pesto w/ a bit of Marsala and cream. I find it great over seafood stuffed ravioli. It was an "accident" sauce actually - well the Marsala, anyway, I thought I had some open wine on hand, but didn't and didn't want to open a bottle just for sauce so I splashed in some Marsala and it's delicious and a very requested dish around here!

                                                                                                                                    1. Ruthie789 RE: Fida Aug 27, 2012 06:30 PM

                                                                                                                                      Well I see this is an old thread but love the following recipe in this link:
                                                                                                                                      http://www.oprah.com/own-cristinas-bi...

                                                                                                                                      1. Samurai Sam RE: Fida Sep 4, 2012 08:40 AM

                                                                                                                                        Definitely Recommend Aglio Olio. Rachel Ray has a great version that includes Anchovy. Delicious.

                                                                                                                                        1. Samurai Sam RE: Fida Sep 4, 2012 08:47 AM

                                                                                                                                          I also like to make a pesto variation using Almonds and Arugula. It's super easy and tasty. Also, I significantly cut the oil to make it healthy. It creates more of a "glaze" than a sauce. Pesto is so tasty, you really don't need a lot. Recipe is below but also available on Neurotic Kitchen under post from Tuesday, January 24, 2012
                                                                                                                                          titled Meatless Monday - Pesto Makeover
                                                                                                                                          Enjoy!
                                                                                                                                          NK's Arugula and Almond Pesto "Glaze"
                                                                                                                                          Yields about a half cup or 4 to 6 servings on a pasta or meat of your choice

                                                                                                                                          Ingredients:
                                                                                                                                          8 Almonds
                                                                                                                                          1 Cup (Packed) Chopped Arugula - hard stalks removed
                                                                                                                                          2 Tablespoons Olive Oil
                                                                                                                                          1/4 Cup Grated Parmesan
                                                                                                                                          1 Large Clove of Garlic - Peeled
                                                                                                                                          Pinch to 1/4 Teaspoon Salt or to taste
                                                                                                                                          One Squeeze of Lemon Juice - optional

                                                                                                                                          Method:
                                                                                                                                          Place Arugula in a food processor (a mini chopper works great for this)
                                                                                                                                          Process until finely chopped
                                                                                                                                          Scrape down the sides of the processor and add Almonds
                                                                                                                                          Process until Almonds are finely chopped and scrape the sides again
                                                                                                                                          Add Parmesan and process
                                                                                                                                          Add 1 Tablespoon Oil and process
                                                                                                                                          Add the second Tablespoon of Oil and process until mixture is wet and fully incorporated
                                                                                                                                          Move the pesto to a small bowl, taste, and add salt to your liking and an optional squeeze of lemon juice,
                                                                                                                                          Stir.
                                                                                                                                          To serve, toss a few tablespoons of mixture with your prepared pasta, or in the case of delicate pastas like ravioli, paint the glaze on with a pastry brush.

                                                                                                                                          1. ursy_ten RE: Fida Feb 20, 2014 07:20 PM

                                                                                                                                            It's been awhile. Anyone had any new revelations in the world of non-tomato pasta sauces?

                                                                                                                                            I have a new one to share.

                                                                                                                                            Make a roux, (equal parts butter, flour), add milk a bit at a time until the white sauce is the consistency you like.

                                                                                                                                            In another pan, sautee diced onions in butter, add chopped bacon and sage leaves (or whatever else goes well with bacon). Cook through, season to taste. Mix in white sauce and pasta. Top with lots of shaved parmesan.

                                                                                                                                            Also good with baby spinach instead of the sage.

                                                                                                                                            This is my teen's favourite so far. I'm teaching her to cook so that she doesn't have to rely on us or noodles in a cup, and she loves spaghetti. I just bought her a fasta pasta microwave cooker and it's great, it means that we can concentrate on the basics of sauce making while the pasta cooks unattended.

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                                                                                                                                              ARenko RE: Fida Feb 21, 2014 05:20 AM

                                                                                                                                              A simple one I like from M. Hazan...

                                                                                                                                              Saute garlic clove and fresh rosemary in butter. Add crushed beef bouillon cube and stir until dissolved. Strain it over your pasta.

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                                                                                                                                                ursy_ten RE: ARenko Feb 24, 2014 02:30 AM

                                                                                                                                                Sounds lovely - interesting use of a bouillon cube, too!

                                                                                                                                              2. mbfant RE: Fida Feb 21, 2014 07:50 AM

                                                                                                                                                Not exactly inexpensive, but it was pretty simple. The other evening I made spaghetti with bottarga and artichokes. NOT marinated artichoke hearts, but fresh artichokes trimmed Roman style (i.e., everything inedible removed), cut in wedges and sauteed until tender. (I already had these and decided to chop a handful coarsely and add to the pasta.)

                                                                                                                                                For the bottarga, it was a bit old and dry, so I grated it. Otherwise I would have sliced. Warm some extra virgin olive oil in a pan with the artichokes (just a handful), pour it over al dente spaghetti in a warmed serving bowl, mix in grated bottarga. Mix well, serve immediately. You could top with some minced fresh flat-leaf parsley.

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                                                                                                                                                  ursy_ten RE: mbfant Feb 24, 2014 02:29 AM

                                                                                                                                                  Sounds quite decadent! I've heard of bottarga, have to try it one day.

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                                                                                                                                                  Querencia RE: Fida Feb 21, 2014 10:10 AM

                                                                                                                                                  I make a generic cheese sauce that can be used with pasta (or anything). Per 1 stick of butter, use 1/2 cup flour and 4 cups milk. When it's thick, add a whole bag of shredded cheese, 2 cups I think. Season to taste. Also it freezes well and does not separate.

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                                                                                                                                                    ursy_ten RE: Querencia Feb 24, 2014 02:38 AM

                                                                                                                                                    This is what I've been doing - making a white sauce and freezing it in silicone cupcake cases, that way my daughter only has to decide which flavours she wants to experiment with. Once she gets confident in choosing the main ingredients, I'll take her through making the roux etc. She's not a confident cook and doesn't have a natural interest in it (yet), so I'm breaking it down into stages so as not to overwhelm her with multiple steps.

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                                                                                                                                                    Eachna RE: Fida Feb 24, 2014 03:41 AM

                                                                                                                                                    Pesto - olive oil, fresh basil, pine nuts (I use walnuts when I can't get pine nuts).

                                                                                                                                                    Alfredo - butter and cream with hard grated cheese (parmesan or romano).

                                                                                                                                                    Good quality butter and grated hard cheese (parmesan or romano).

                                                                                                                                                    I mix equal parts olive oil and Piri-Piri sauce. It has a similar taste to Buffalo wings sauce made with hot sauce and butter.

                                                                                                                                                    Mushroom sauce - cook meat. Fry sliced or diced mushrooms in the drippings and about 1 Tbsp flour. Add 1/2 cup milk (if you're being good) or cream (if you're feeling naughty :D). If it's nice and creamy, serve as is. If it's a little too thick, add wine (a splash at a time) until it's the consistency you want. If it's too thin, simmer to reduce. DO NOT BOIL!

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