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MixyG Apr 5, 2005 07:00 PM

I've had it with my pepper mill and would like suggestions on a replacement (all sorts of price ranges, as long as warranted, are welcome). What I want is one that doesn't take forever to grind a teaspoon's worth of pepper. Thanks.

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    Candy RE: MixyG Apr 5, 2005 07:05 PM

    I have had 2 Peugeot mills for over 15 years. I keep a black lacquered one for black pepper and a samller white lacquered one for white pepper. I also have a Perfex that does a good job too.

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      Richie RE: Candy Apr 5, 2005 07:11 PM

      I just bought a peugot wine bottle pepper mill on clearance at Sur La Table for $30.00 for a birthday gift for a friend. I am glad they last.

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        Marcia M. D'A. RE: Richie Apr 5, 2005 10:49 PM

        The Peugeot pepper mills have a lifetime warrenty. I've had one for more than thirty years, and another for fifteen or so, I guess. One more was left in a cabin in Maine some years back.
        I like them because they are idiosyncratic - no two grind just the same.

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          litchick RE: Marcia M. D'A. Mar 14, 2009 08:42 PM

          I love my peugeot pepper and salt grinders: elegant, easy to fill, ease of use.

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            litchick RE: litchick Mar 15, 2009 07:33 PM

            Following up, here're the Peugeots I have:

            http://www.amazon.com/Peugeot-Fidji-P...

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        MikeG RE: Candy Apr 5, 2005 09:29 PM

        Ditto on the Peugot. I've had one for about 13 years that works as well as when I bought it. You should be able to find them at fairly reasonable prices, too, if you shop around. (Around I here I can get the 6" plain wood model for about $25, though some places charge quite a bit more.)

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          twinmommy RE: Candy Apr 6, 2005 02:18 PM

          I'm overwhelmed by the different models. Are they the same mechanism, just a different design?

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          megan RE: MixyG Apr 5, 2005 07:08 PM

          I love, love, love my oxo spice/pepper grinder... I have three of them. it really dumps a lot of pepper out with each grind... so I'd only recommend it if you really like lots of pepper.

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            pepper RE: MixyG Apr 5, 2005 08:06 PM

            Having a regular manual grinder already I'm in the market for an electric grinder that will allow me to have one hand free. I don't like contaminating my cooking gear when handling chicken, pork, etc. I find it very useful for seasoning poultry, meat or fish to have a free hand to flip things.

            It's a toss up between a William Bounds & a Peugeot electric grinder for me. I see that Trudeau has a "rechargeable" grinder, I'm not familiar with that brand so that'll mean more research. I'll have to read a few more reviews & to try them out at Sur La Table. I search epinions.com & amazon.com to read reviews from people who have already bought the product to see if there are any glitches.

            As far a manual grinder my sister has a huge gold Turkish style grinder that releases a lot of grinds with each turn that she is quite happy with so you might look into that. Like this one, but not exactly http://www.espressozone.com/zassenhau... .

            Link: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/...

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              Jeremy Newel RE: pepper Apr 5, 2005 10:15 PM

              Like you, I need to have one hand free, so I got the Wm. Bounds electric. I love it! But if you need a lot of pepper at one go (I don't), you may find it a bit slow. For me, it is perfect. Have neither seen nor tested the Peugeot, though, so I can't make a valid comparison. Have never heard of the other one.

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              Caitlin McGrath RE: MixyG Apr 5, 2005 08:54 PM

              I like both my Perfex, which performs well EXCEPT when I want a real coarse grind and is extremely easy to fill (little chute pops open on the side, nothing to unscrew), and my Zassenhaus, which performss well EXCEPT when I want a real fine grind. The Perfex can be found at cookware shops, and is around $60 nowadays. Penzey's sells the Zassenhaus in two sizes.

              Link: http://www.penzeys.com/cgi-bin/penzey...

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                twinmommy RE: Caitlin McGrath Apr 6, 2005 02:16 PM

                Thanks for posting the average Perfex price. I just saw them at Williams Sonoma for $150! I'm glad I passed it up at that apparently inflated price.

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                  Delucacheesemonger RE: twinmommy Mar 15, 2009 05:11 AM

                  Know this is not date specific, but PERFEX has two sizes, normal one is 60 or so, and the big one, about 10 inches, costs 150 or so. Thus not inflated price if big one.

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                    JoanN RE: Delucacheesemonger Mar 15, 2009 06:35 AM

                    I'm sitting here stupefied! I had no idea Perfex mills were that expensive. And now even more so. I just took a look and the 4 incher is selling for $70 to $90. I've had two, one for white and one for black pepper, for probably 40 years now. But there's just no way, even in late 1960 dollars, that I would have paid that for one pepper mill, no less two.

                    I still use the Perfex for white pepper. I agree that adjusting the grind can be problematic. Every couple of years or so I just take it completely apart and give it a good scrubbing and it seems to help. But for black pepper, I've switched to the Unicorn Magnum and never looked back.

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                      Delucacheesemonger RE: JoanN Mar 15, 2009 06:42 AM

                      Of the three l have, two, small pepper and small salt,, got at a house sale for $4 each, big one for pepper was a present. But even with their problems, still like them the best. Sure there are better out there, but these are damn near family by now.

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                        josephnl RE: JoanN Mar 15, 2009 09:24 AM

                        You are right. Perfex grinders are fine for history buffs. They have been around unchanged for ages. Sure they work, but are not in a league with the Unicorn Magnum...or, in my opinion, the even better ceramic mills such as the Kuhn-Rikon vase grinder or the WMF Ceramill's.

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                        Tinkerbell RE: Delucacheesemonger Sep 1, 2013 09:18 AM

                        Well, wish I had bought one in 2009. The 7 1/2 inch(8inchyou mentioned) costs $199 now and only one place can you find it. So inflation gets us all but it is a beautiful pepper grinder and well made. I can return it as long as store exists and I have the paper work.

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                      Will Owen RE: Caitlin McGrath Apr 6, 2005 07:59 PM

                      I've always found my Perfex to want to grind every way BUT fine, and unless I tighten the adjustment regularly it keeps wandering over to the extra-coarse end of the spectrum. That said, I love it. The side-chute is brilliant, and having a crank to turn means you can do it with greasy/goopy hands, which happens a lot in my kitchen...

                      After chasing all over France trying to find one on its home ground, I broke down and paid $50 to my local cookware store in Nashville. That was in '91.

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                      valerie RE: MixyG Apr 5, 2005 09:28 PM

                      Here's a discussion on this topic.

                      I love my Unicorn Magnum pepper mill.

                      Link: http://www.chowhound.com/topics/show/...

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                        smokey RE: valerie Apr 5, 2005 09:36 PM

                        Also love my magnum.

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                          JoanN RE: valerie Apr 6, 2005 03:44 PM

                          Me, too. I could never get the grind I wanted from the Perfex. The Unicorn Magnum can be easily changed from coarse to fine and you get more pepper out of it with a couple of turns than you do with other mills I've tried. That said, CI did a bit on pepper mills a few years ago and gave the best rating to the William Bound's mills. But I wouldn't give up my Magnum for anything.

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                            TheLoaf RE: valerie Apr 6, 2005 06:32 PM

                            Agreed. I tried out a lot of mills; some are better, some worse. But this thing holds a massive amount of pepper, is easy to adjust, and kicks out the end product impressively. I got the biggest size, though in retrospect, I think the next smaller version might be easier to wield and would still hold plenty of peppercorn. It's not the prettiest thing, but that's the only drawback.

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                              farmersdaughter RE: valerie Apr 6, 2005 07:00 PM

                              Another vote for the Unicorn Magnum, after going through a Peugeot and William Bounds. It is easy to grind a lot of pepper quickly with the Unicorn. I believe Fine Cooking reviewed peppermills recently and picked this one as the best.

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                                JK Grence (the Cosmic Jester) RE: valerie Apr 6, 2005 07:31 PM

                                To respond to a couple of posters, Cook's Illustrated found, like the other magazine, the Magnum pepper mill to be the best, and indeed when you watch their TV show, it's the only pepper mill they use. The other ones that fell into the Recommended category were the East Hampton Industries (or EHI) Peppermate, the OXO Good Grips Grind It Pepper Mill, and the Zyliss Pepper Mill. The smaller Magnum works equally as well as the big one. The William Bounds that somebody mentioned fell into the Not Recommended category.

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                                muD RE: MixyG Apr 6, 2005 02:03 PM

                                I have a Turkish one my parents bought in some Turkish market and it works perfectly for a fine grind, plenty of pepper. I was told it is used to grind coffee in Turkey. I think I've seen them advertized in the US. For a crack I just use a cheap thing from target. Though it doesn't put out much with each twist. I also have some German mill that is supposed to have an adjustable grind, but I've tried each setting and have compared the results on wax paper and can't find a difference.

                                1. bayoucook RE: MixyG Mar 6, 2009 08:20 AM

                                  Unicorn Magnum! Read about test results on cooksillustrated.com.

                                  1. alwayscooking RE: MixyG Mar 6, 2009 08:50 AM

                                    Peugeot electric [period]

                                    One handed freshly ground pepper added as I stir or add other ingredients. I've had it seven years and would replace it with the same if it ever went south. The downside is refilling the thing - the holes are small.

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                                      bayoucook RE: alwayscooking Mar 6, 2009 09:06 AM

                                      That's one reason to love the Magnum. It has a huge fill hole that holds a ton. I have put mine through the wringer (even burned it a little) and it's still going strong.

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                                        alwayscooking RE: bayoucook Mar 6, 2009 09:11 AM

                                        It doesn't seem to be electric - and I love one handed, fast grinding.

                                    2. kchurchill5 RE: MixyG Mar 6, 2009 09:16 AM

                                      I have to be the one who always comes in again the norm, but I have had one from Target for 12 years. It is stainless, sorry no name on it. I do remember it was 15.00 I bought my mom and my best friend one too. Holds tons of pepper corns, works amazing, great grind, perfect every time, couldn't be better. Someone got me a very expensive one that same year, won't mention the name, but it has been named here and 2 years and it broke. And honestly, never really liked it. There is no way I would ever pay over 30 dollars for a pepper grinder in my entire life. Never! Sorry just not worth it. That money could be used to help others, donate food and time to those who can't even afford food no less a the cost of some of these pepper grinders. I'll take my money and put it towards those who can't even afford food.

                                      Sorry, it is just a passion of mine and expensive appliances is not something I agree with. Please don't take it personally it is not meant that way at all. It is just my belief is all. I mean no disrespect, honestly.

                                      1. Shrinkrap RE: MixyG Mar 6, 2009 09:24 AM

                                        Perfect timing! I'm in the market as well! I'll just add, as much as I value you hounds, I love the reviews on Amazon.

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                                          BeefeaterRocks RE: Shrinkrap Mar 6, 2009 01:27 PM

                                          To late for me, Monday I bought Nor Pro from Amazon for the kitchen, the cheapest one I could find. I haven't received it yet so I can't comment. I bought it to replace a Trudeau pepper mill I bought locally that lasted about 30 days. My table pepper mill is one a friend "borrowed" for me from the Pepper Mill Restaurant in Reno in the 1974. It was made by Verity Southall in El Segundo and it still works just not quite as well and I have had to replace the piece of metal on the bottom that keeps the grinder from falling out.

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                                            williamcoats RE: BeefeaterRocks Jan 12, 2014 07:39 PM

                                            Hello - I have a 17" tall Verity pepper grinder from El Segundo. You mentioned replacing that metal piece at the bottom that holds the grinder in. Can you let me know how you found that piece? My broke as well.

                                            Thanks
                                            Bill
                                            williamcoats @ gmail.com

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                                              BeefeaterRocks RE: williamcoats Jan 12, 2014 08:56 PM

                                              I made it myself, using a strip of tin and the original screws.

                                               
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                                                John E. RE: BeefeaterRocks Jan 12, 2014 09:24 PM

                                                Wow. A perfectly timed response to an almost 5 year old post. I am sincerely impressed.

                                        2. todao RE: MixyG Mar 6, 2009 09:32 AM

                                          I make pepper mills; and, in my research for making the best model possible, I've used them all. Nothing I make, and nothing else I've used, does any better job than the simple "Mr. Dudley" pepper mill that my wife bought for about ten bucks a few years ago.

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                                            josephnl RE: MixyG Mar 7, 2009 02:19 PM

                                            I am really surprised that no one has recommended any of the European mills which use a ceramic grinding mechanism. These have become very popular in Europe, and in most shops especially in Germany and Switzerland you will find more of these than anything else. I have one made by WMF from Germany, and a Kuhn-Rikon "vase grinder" from Switzerland both of which use a ceramic mechanism. These are terrific mills, and are easily adjustable, and always grind perfectly.

                                            Amongst the other mills, I agree with several others that the Unicorn Magnum is one of the best. I used one for years before I got hooked on the ceramic mills. I have personally had very poor luck with newer Peugeot mills and have recently thrown one away (they used to be quite good). Similarly I have had a Perfex mill which did not work well, and I gave it away.

                                            Does anyone else use a ceramic mill? I think they are terrific!

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                                              Jack_ RE: josephnl Mar 8, 2009 05:49 AM

                                              Yep, sure do. The thing I like about mine is that it sits grinder side up so no peper mess all over the place. This is the one I use

                                              http://www.amazon.com/Ceramic-Spice-G...

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                                                josephnl RE: Jack_ Mar 8, 2009 12:22 PM

                                                I use the Kuhn-Rikon which looks very similar, and also sits with the grinder side up which I agree is a great idea! The one that you use has not gotten great reviews on Amazon. The K-R works perfectly!

                                                http://www.kuhnrikon.com/products/too...

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                                                  puzzler RE: josephnl Mar 9, 2009 10:15 AM

                                                  I've used ceramic for years and love them!

                                                  Ikea has a ceramic for $6.99. I use two, one for coarse sea salt and one for pepper. Love 'em. Also they have extra matching jars w/ lids that fit the grinding head.

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                                                jaykayen RE: josephnl Mar 15, 2009 03:53 AM

                                                Yep, I have one, a WMF Ceramill. Output volume is amazing.

                                              3. bayoucook RE: MixyG Mar 7, 2009 02:23 PM

                                                I had an electric one for years. Now it sits unused in the pantry. There's just something about the Magnum, how it brings out the flavor in the peppercorns...

                                                1. Demented RE: MixyG Mar 7, 2009 11:36 PM

                                                  I have a pair of Peugeot mills, one stained dark for black pepper the other is natural and filled with white pepper. As Marcia stated, no two work exactly the same, yet they are well worth the price.

                                                  1. BerkshireTsarina RE: MixyG Mar 14, 2009 04:40 PM

                                                    I never even LIKED pepper, but my husband loves it, so a good pepper mill was a problem for a lot of years in our kitchen until I heard about the Magnum, and got the smaller one, and now
                                                    LIFE IS GOOD. It works like a charm, is a cinch to fill, and best of all, now I love pepper! There's something about its grind that releases a flavor I've never tasted before.

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                                                      bayoucook RE: BerkshireTsarina Mar 15, 2009 05:17 AM

                                                      It really does! That's why it's the only one out of the 6 or 7 I have that I use now. I don't know how it does it, but the pepper just tastes better.

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                                                      easily amused RE: MixyG Mar 15, 2009 05:42 AM

                                                      I bought a "Trudeau Graviti" battery operated pepper mill about 6 months ago. It is mavelous. All you do is turn it upside down and it starts to grind. You can adjust to various types of grind.
                                                      Great for all those carpal tunnel syndrome sufferers out there.
                                                      Bought mine at a 'Ross" for $9.99 Have seen them elsewhere for close to $30

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                                                        toddster63 RE: MixyG Jan 13, 2010 06:15 PM

                                                        I totally agree about the Magnum peppermills. I've used a lot, and the Magnums really excel at day to day usage. They aren't as pretty or romantic as many others, but the output and peppercorn storage will amaze you.

                                                        I will never use any other mill. I'm currently staying with my brother and using his wooden mill, and YIKES! I have to grind and grind and grind all day to get any pepper...! My Magnum takes just one or two grinds...!
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                                                        The only weak point of the Magnum is that it does not excel at a fine, fine grind (many peppermills don't).

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                                                          bear RE: toddster63 Jan 23, 2010 05:43 PM

                                                          Love my Magnum!

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                                                          montrealwaitress RE: MixyG Jan 26, 2010 01:36 PM

                                                          I am in love with my Peugeot. $50, and while expensive, one of the best things I've ever bought for my kitchen. I don't think the model much matters, it's more a question of taste.

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                                                            Skiploading RE: MixyG Jan 26, 2010 03:00 PM

                                                            I swear by my 35 year-old William Bounds, but the new ones I have tried lately were disappointing. The real surprise was the Typhoon mills that have been in TJ
                                                            Maxx, Homegoods, and Marshalls for the past 6 months. The typhoon Acrylic is a good small size, the Pantone is all plastic and has a problem with the lid which are often broken by customers in the store, and the big one - called the Elegance mill -- is my new kitchen favorite. It has a depression in the top with a stopper that makes filling a breeze. Amazingly, they all cost $10.00 if you can still find them at the stores mentioned. . They have an adjustable ceramic mechanism that clics into place and delivers a huge amount of uniform particles. I hope the pictures load.

                                                             
                                                             
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                                                              Skiploading RE: Skiploading Jan 26, 2010 03:07 PM

                                                              Acrylic and pantone pics are ok. I'll try the elegance pictures again. I looked at google images and remembered that the wooden ones would sometimes stick as the humidity changed . But the others are wonderful.

                                                               
                                                               
                                                               
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                                                              moonbeamer RE: MixyG Jan 26, 2010 10:08 PM

                                                              Having owned, wrecked and thrown away a good number of ill-designed pepper mills over the years (intended for cooking, not necessarily fancy presentation at the table), my lessons learned are that most important criteria are:

                                                              1: It have a good, sturdy conical burr grinding mechanism, either hard steel or ceramic, which is easily adjustable from very coarse (for steak au poivre) to very fine.

                                                              2: That the unit itself be sturdily constructed so it won't fall apart under heavy use.

                                                              3: That it have adequate capacity to hold lots of peppercorns, so it won't run out in the midst of some delicate or fast-moving cooking operation.

                                                              1: rules out the fancy brass Turkish coffee grinders, which can only grind very finely.
                                                              2: rules out ALL wooden-bodied mills, or even plastic-bodied ones, one unless the plastic is of a sturdy industrial-grade (not Lexan, for example).
                                                              3: rules out most all pepper mills, in favor of a good manual coffee or espresso grinder.

                                                              I eventually settled a tall (tallest available), all-stainless-steel mill with a wide-range conical burr grinder, essentially a stainless-steel-bodied version of the 9" Peugeot mill, or perhaps the 8" H M Pro mill. Its main shortcoming is its limited storage capacity; and if it should be lost or stolen (it's indestructible, so that's the only way it will go), I think I would replace it with another Porex hand coffee grinder, or perhaps Kyocera's plastic-bodied version of it: both have the same well-designed, conical burr grinding mechanism, and the grinding burrs, being ceramic, are easy to clean and won't rust or corrode. A bit pricey for a pepper mill (around $100), but worth every penny.

                                                              1. tanuki soup RE: MixyG Jan 27, 2010 03:38 AM

                                                                I agree with earlier posters in recommending the WMF Ceramill.

                                                                precise ceramic grinding mechanism
                                                                large knob for setting the coarseness
                                                                easy to fill - without affecting the coarseness setting
                                                                large-capacity, clear pepper compartment
                                                                easy to grab, use, and clean
                                                                puts out a lot of pepper with every twist
                                                                upside-down design means no pepper rings on the table
                                                                the cap can be left on while grinding to obtain a tablespoon or two for cooking
                                                                10-year warranty

                                                                I have kept my old Peugeots etc. only for use as rustic kitchen decorations.

                                                                 
                                                                1. woodleyparkhound RE: MixyG Jan 27, 2010 08:54 AM

                                                                  I decided a few years ago to invest in a good pepper mill. I bought a Zassenhaus from Penzey's (I see from their website they don't sell these anymore.) I just hated it - I like course ground pepper and it ground the pepper really fine. I gave it to a friend who loves it for the same reason I hated it. Then I tried a Perfex. I didn't really like it much better, but I didn't want to get another one, as I figured I had spent quite enough on pepper mills, thank you very much. A friend then gave me a Unicorn Magnum about 3 years ago and I've never looked back. Wow. This is what I've been looking for. Course grind, and you get lots of pepper with every twist, so you don't have to stand there all day grinding, like with the Zassenhaus. My search is over.

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                                                                    fearlessemily RE: MixyG Jan 27, 2010 12:03 PM

                                                                    Magnum! Magnum magnum magnum! This thing is incredible -- easy to fill, big capacity, and puts out a TON of pepper. If anything, my complaint would be that the output is so great, it can occasionally give me more pepper than I want. I waited for years to buy it, and now wonder why I waited so long...

                                                                    1. KansasKate RE: MixyG Nov 19, 2010 06:31 AM

                                                                      I too am in the market for mills.

                                                                      For the table, I want salt & pepper mills in pewter or aluminum. They should have a traditional look. I don't want junk, but they don't have to be great either. Right now, I'm leaning towards the Perfex though the little doors don't thrill me. http://tinyurl.com/Perfex-SP-mills
                                                                      Another option would be the B&W 4" set by Peugeot -- not pewter but at least they have a traditional look. http://tinyurl.com/Peugeot-BW-4in

                                                                      For the kitchen, I want a pepper mill or two. So far, the candidates are:
                                                                      Kuhn Rikon Vase in clear & stainless http://tinyurl.com/KuhnRikon-stainless
                                                                      WMF Ceramill Deluxe in clear & stainless http://tinyurl.com/WMF-Ceramill-Delux...

                                                                      I would also consider the Oliver Hemming *if* I could find them in walnut but - though I've seen pics of them on the internet - no one seems to sell them anymore.

                                                                      As you can see, I prefer wood or metal over plastic. Made in EU or US is also a preference.

                                                                      After reading this thread, I think I've narrowed it down to the best options, but if I've overlooked a brand or model, please let me know.

                                                                      MTIA!

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                                                                        John E. RE: KansasKate Nov 19, 2010 10:51 AM

                                                                        For stovetop and kitchen use you should consider an Ikea spice grinder. It works great, has a large capacity and for $7 if you don't like it you can give it away to someone that probably is using pre-ground pepper dust for their cooking needs.

                                                                        http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/pro...

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                                                                          KansasKate RE: John E. Nov 19, 2010 01:43 PM

                                                                          Thanks, John. In theory, that's a great idea. But Ikea doesn't sell them online, and I live 350+ miles from the nearest store. Will check eBay though. That's where I usually find Ikea products.

                                                                          Strange thing is, Ikea won't ship me a small pepper mill but they would ship me a big glass curio cabinet like the Detolf. Go figure...

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                                                                          josephnl RE: KansasKate Nov 19, 2010 02:36 PM

                                                                          Definitely do not recommend the Perfex.

                                                                          I love ceramic mills and use the Kuhn-Rikon's in the kitchen for cooking, and the Oliver Hemming's at the table. Both are terrific, but I don't belive either is available in wood. I have seen WMF Ceramills (which are also excellent) in wood in Europe, but don't know if they are available here.

                                                                          If you absolutely must have wood, then I'd probably go with Peugeot's which although they look nice, do not grind as well as the ceramic mills...the old ones were great, but not the newer ones.

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                                                                            KansasKate RE: josephnl Nov 20, 2010 04:01 AM

                                                                            It's not that I must have wood; it's that I don't want plastic or anything plastic-like. Painted wood, natural wood or metal are all a-ok. What I like best about are the models that look like a turned porch post; however I can see the advantage of having the grinder on top.

                                                                            Anyone have experience w/ Vic Firth mills? The grinders pop out to be cleaned (is this the case with all mills??) and they have a lifetime guarantee.

                                                                            And kudos to Trudeau! On their site, one can search by grinder mechanism material: carbon steel, ceramic, stainless steel, zinc alloy. http://tinyurl.com/trudeau-corp-mills

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                                                                              taos RE: KansasKate Nov 20, 2010 09:25 AM

                                                                              I'm also looking for a new pepper mill. I've had a bad history with pepper mils. I had a Bounds lucite mill that got too close to gas flame on my stove and melted, then another cheap wooden mill that broke apart, then a Pepper Ball (http://www.amazon.com/Chefn-PB-300-Pe...) that spewed out uneven chunks and required a lot of squeezing for a little amount of pepper. That went to Goodwill. Now I'm on to another Bounds -- this one in stainless steel and plastic covered in fake metal that works only slight better than pouring the straight pepper corns out of a can.

                                                                              Here's what I want:

                                                                              1. Wood or metal shell. I don't want plastic because of my history of melting things and my overall lack of fondness for plastic.

                                                                              2. Adjustable and predictable grind.

                                                                              3. Manual, not electric.

                                                                              4. Small footprint.

                                                                              I'm also curious about experience with Vic Firth. They make great drumsticks (the music kind, not the eating kind). Are their pepper mills any good?

                                                                              Is there anything out there that meets my requirements? I'm willing to pay more if the thing works and lasts.

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                                                                                josephnl RE: taos Nov 20, 2010 09:33 AM

                                                                                From my above posts, you can tell that I definitely prefer ceramic mills. Nevertheless, the Unicorn Magnum is a superb all metal mill that will definitely not disappoint. WMF does make ceramic mills with a stainless housing, and I have seen them with a wooden housing in Europe...so with some searching, you might locate one here. WMF uses the tradename Ceramill/

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                                                                                  tanuki soup RE: josephnl Nov 20, 2010 01:03 PM

                                                                                  Another WMF Ceramill fan here.

                                                                                  Amazon.com sells the stainless steel WMF Ceramill:

                                                                                  http://www.amazon.com/WMF-06-6771-604...

                                                                                  And a pic:

                                                                                   
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                                                                                    JoanN RE: josephnl Nov 20, 2010 02:08 PM

                                                                                    The Unicorn Magnum--which is the best pepper mill I've ever owned--has a plastic housing, it's not all metal.

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                                                                                      josephnl RE: JoanN Nov 20, 2010 02:52 PM

                                                                                      Thanks for correcting me. I've used one at a friend's home and assumed it was black enamel on a metal housing. I stand corrected...but it is still nevertheless a terrific mill...and it really doesn't look plasticy.

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                                                                                  John E. RE: KansasKate Dec 17, 2010 07:49 AM

                                                                                  When you asked about Vic Firth peppermills I had no experience with them, now I do. After yang one for several days, I would not hesitate to buy one if I were in the market for a new peppermill. The adjustable grind works well and has a locking mechanism so it doesn't loosen as it is used. It also has a very fine grind which is consistent which even the Magnum has trouble with. I would buy the big one if I were wishing to have a wooden peppermill.

                                                                                  (I got my 7" cherry Vic Firth for $3 at Goodwill. The nut on top was cross threaded resulting in a very course grind. I fixed that and it works great. I have to believe that the person who purchased it wasn't responsible for it's donation).

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                                                                              dessert_diva RE: MixyG Nov 20, 2010 01:34 PM

                                                                              I had a Perfex for about 30 years (yes, 30) until one day last year I noticed tiny metal shavings amongst the freshly ground pepper. That instantly pushed me to get a ceramic grinder. I don't like plastic and prefer stainless housings to wood; I also want the easiest possible filling method (the simple door on the Perfex was the original reason I bought it, well, that and the stainless housing).

                                                                              I found everything I wanted in the Rosle. They seem to be $54, plus or minus a dollar or two, pretty much everywhere, except it's $61 at both Rosle and Sur la Table. I got mine via Amazon because I had a giftcard balance there. I'm thrilled with it. Because it's so much taller than the Perfex it holds much more pepper, but its actual footprint really isn't much bigger.

                                                                              Btw, I always thought the Rosle products were Euro-made but I learned very recently that much (perhaps all by now?) of their stuff is made in China. If you read their site info carefully it says they "use German engineering" but it does not say "made in Germany". Apparantly "German engineering" is used merely in the sense of "German-designed". If you google "Rosle made in" , you'll see a number of comments/questions on that subject.

                                                                              Normally I steer clear of anything produced in China but am aware there's a broad range of quality depending on what company owns the factory, how good their quality control is, etc etc. IMHO the Rosle products seem to be one of the better ones.

                                                                              I still won't touch any food products originating in China though! :-O

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                                                                                josephnl RE: dessert_diva Nov 20, 2010 01:52 PM

                                                                                Sad that Rosle is now made in China. I do think they were originally made in Europe (?Germany). Nevertheless, their products are usually of very good quality. Their stainless steel pepper mill looks great, and happily does have a ceramic mechanism. I'm tempted to get yet another pepper mill!

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                                                                                  Delucacheesemonger RE: dessert_diva Nov 22, 2010 02:12 PM

                                                                                  Have the big Perfex for decades as well. Just checked, only pepper coming out. This one stands about 7 inches and door on front could hold a log. Also to mention there is a pepper l have been using for some time. It is a special Tellicherry that they allow to ripen on the vine, thus the berry is much larger. They have far more flavor than most peppercorns. Brand name is 'SPECIAL WYNAD PEPPER' imported by Belgravia imports, l swear by it.

                                                                                2. SanityRemoved RE: MixyG Nov 20, 2010 03:16 PM

                                                                                  I've had a William Bounds combo salt shaker/pepper mill with adjustable grind for over 20 years and has never had any problems.

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                                                                                    taos RE: SanityRemoved Nov 21, 2010 07:21 AM

                                                                                    Perhaps Williams Bounds, like many manufacturers, lessened their quality in recent years. Or maybe I'm just picky. In any case, I have not had good luck with their products.

                                                                                    Thanks to everyone for their recommendations here. I have ordered the WMF Ceramil from Amazon.

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                                                                                      KingoftheCastle RE: taos Nov 22, 2010 08:52 AM

                                                                                      That WMF looks like an overpriced version of the Kyocera everything mill only other difference is the S/S vs. plastic top

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                                                                                        taos RE: KingoftheCastle Nov 22, 2010 12:02 PM

                                                                                        Well funny you should mention that. The day after I ordered the WMF I was in a store that had a huge display of Kyocera ceramic stuff and saw the Kyocera mill. Very nice except for the plastic top but $15 compared to $40 for the WMF in stainless steel. I haven't received the WMF so I can't compare exactly but I have a Kyocera peeler and I like it a lot.

                                                                                        I am wondering if the plastic top on the Kyocera creates static problems that causes the ground pepper to stick. This happens in my coffee grinder and is one reason I didn't want plastic for a pepper mill.

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                                                                                    battman1_2000 RE: MixyG Dec 1, 2010 12:15 PM

                                                                                    Finally broke down and got the Unicorn Magnum. Was tired of the manual with the little round ball on the top that would fall and roll all over the kitchen (lucky to have found it) or my electric that would just start grinding by itself. This Magnum is great and even the wife likes it!

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                                                                                      breadchick RE: battman1_2000 Dec 17, 2010 02:23 PM

                                                                                      Love my Peugeot electric pepper grinder. I've had it for almost 14 years and it's still going. Little headlight and easily adjustable, button operation gives my wrists and joints a break. Little expensive, but I'll get another one when this one kicks the bucket.

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                                                                                        josephnl RE: breadchick Dec 17, 2010 03:37 PM

                                                                                        Hope it doesn't break. New Peugeots, at least the non-electrics, are not great...not nearly as good as the old.

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                                                                                          breadchick RE: josephnl Dec 17, 2010 05:52 PM

                                                                                          Yikes, thanks for the heads up.

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                                                                                            josephnl RE: breadchick Dec 17, 2010 07:01 PM

                                                                                            If you must have an electric, I have no idea what to recommend. I personally am a big fan of the newer mills with a ceramic grinding mechanism such as those made by Kuhn-Rikon, WMF or Oliver Hemming. If you definitely want a mill with a metal grinding mechanism (and I don't know why), the Unicorn Magnum is first rate. I don't know what happened to Peugeot mills. I had an old one for many moons and it was outstanding. I have had two newer Peugeot's which were pretty awful, and gave them away...one to Goodwill, and one to someone who was in need.

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