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rudeboy Dec 22, 2004 03:48 PM

I love duck but I've never had Peking Duck. Usually, you have to order it in advance, and it's expensive. Should I try it, and why? Is it a different type of duck? I could just internet search, but I want to know from y'all what it tastes like.

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    Simon Majumdar Dec 23, 2004 12:27 AM

    I have tried to approximate this at home a few times

    I can't tell you how "authentic" it is, but it is damn tasty

    I pour boiling water over the duck to loosen the skin, then I prick the skin all over with a fork aqnd dry the bird with kitchen towel

    I then leave the duck to marinade overnight in a mix of

    Rice wine vinegar
    Brown sugar
    chopped red Chilli
    Garlic
    Fresh ginger
    sesame oil
    pepper & Salt
    2/tsp of five spice

    When ready to cook, I rub a little salt into the skin

    I then roast at about 170o for two hours and then 200o for a further half hour to an hour or until the skin is totally crisp. I always roast on a rack to allow the fat to drain off and I remove the fat regularly.

    The pancakes are pretty easy too

    PANCAKES

    10 oz plain flour
    1/2 tsp salt
    8 fl Oz of boiling water
    Vegetable oil

    Make the dough and leave to rest for five minutes or so. Shape in a roll and cut into 16 bits

    Take two pieces and flatten them. Brush the tops with oil and and place one on top of the other oiled side together.

    Roll them out with a floured roller until about 8in circles

    Heat dry frying pan and cook the pancakes on both sides for 2 to 3 mins until they begin to brown a little

    Separate them and keep warm

    when ready to eat, reheat them in a steamer or on a foil covered plate on top of a pan of water

    Serve with strips of cucumber, shreeded spring onions ( scallions ) and fresh plum sauce

    For the plum sauce, I just cook down fresh plums with brown sugar, soy sauce, a little five spice and 1/2 cup of orange juice. I then strain to remove all the bits and thicken with a little arrowroot.

    Not quite Hong Kong, but it is worth a try

    S

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      rudeboy Dec 23, 2004 09:59 AM

      I've made duck a l'orange before, but at a higher temp. I'dd just like to verify the cooking temps - they seem kind of low to me?

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        Caitlin McGrath Dec 23, 2004 12:01 PM

        I believe the temperatures cited in Simon's recipe are celcius, not farenheit, which is why they look low if you're thinking in farenheit.

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      Jim H. Dec 23, 2004 12:10 AM

      Peking Duck is a breed of duck. Fortunately for us, it is the most popular breed in the US. It is usually prepared in the classic fashion, and the duck is served primarily as pieces of thinly sliced skin, with a layer of fat and meat attached. It is eaten in a type of very thin pancake, called a "po ping", or with steam buns (similar to bao) that pull into thin layers. It is usually eaten with hoisin sauce and green onion, altho some prefer "duck sauce". I find it delicious, but my wife does not care for it...so I guess it is a matter of taste. I never complain, since at banquets I always eat her duck.

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        Caitlin McGrath Dec 23, 2004 12:05 PM

        Actually, I believe that PEKING duck is the preparation you describe, and PEKIN duck is the breed (often misidentified ans Peking). See link below.

        Link: http://www.feathersite.com/Poultry/Du...

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        Limster Dec 22, 2004 11:51 PM

        I've heard that a particular breed of duck is used for this dish, it's supposed to be a little fattier, but I don't know specifics of the the breed.

        In Cantonese places, you'll often have the skin served with hoisin sauce and sometimes wrapped in a steamed rice bun. At Northern Chinese places where it is native, a sweet complex fermented wheat sauce is used inside of hoisin and a wheat crepe is typical.

        If you have Eat Drink Man Woman handy, I think there's a scene in the opening credits where the chef is cooking up a storm. At one point he puts a bamboo tube to a duck near the neck and blows. This is one step in the preparation of the duck and is done to separate the skin from the flesh.

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          Melanie Wong Dec 23, 2004 12:24 AM

          I believe it's a Pekin. The ones in SF Chinatown come from Petaluma.

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            gordon wing Dec 23, 2004 02:36 AM

            Once while I was at the Central Market in Hong Kong I saw a couple of workers with a huge mound of ducks ready to be inflated. Instead of a piece of bamboo, they just picked up a duck and blew into the slit that was cut into the neck - talk about lung power! I prefer to use an air compressor (black & decker) or a bicycle pump.

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            sbp Dec 22, 2004 08:15 PM

            The other posters described the classical dish and how it is served. Tastewise, it has a somewhat more intense flavor (I'm talking strictly about the skin here) than the typical roasted duck hanging in the window in Chinatown. But the difference is not worth triple the price, IMO. And it's very easy to buy a "hanging duck", some moo-shu pancakes, scallions and hoisin sauce and make a reasonable fascimile.

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              Christine Dec 22, 2004 07:09 PM

              Peking Duck is always at least two courses, often three or more if a soup dish is thrown in. A neighborhood Chinese restaurant near my parents' house (Torrance, CA) serves the skin/bun course, then the rest of the duck as a roast duck dish. It's delicious. And less than $10, a great deal.

              The duck goes through a process of having its skin separated from the meat, then it's air dried. This takes a few days and takes up room which is why it's expensive here. Plus, most city health inspectors don't like the idea of poultry hanging in the air for a few days. The restaurant I spoke of rigged a large refrigerator so the ducks can be cold and air dried, but this increases the drying time to about 7 days, according to the owner.

              I have been to Beijing several times to visit friends and they have taken me to restaurants all over the place (always in suburbs) to get Peking Duck; therefore, it is not my experience that the dish is only for entertainment in China. My worst experience there was in one of the outlets of the most famous PD chain restaurants, Quanjude. All the other ducks were fantastic.

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                gordon wing Dec 23, 2004 07:12 PM

                I'm sure there is more than one way to air dry the duck - when I've done it - the process only takes hours / or overnight at most - not days. In the winter time when the air is dry - half a day could be enough - of course, this is with a fan on it. And I'm only doing one or two at a time and in my basement - very different from a restaurant with all those woks creating heat & steam. In any event, it's not as complicated a process as one might think. (more than a steak, tho)

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                  yimster Dec 23, 2004 07:44 PM

                  My Father use to tell us that this duck was made in Peking in the day when there was a cooling wind from the north that dry the skin of the duck prior to roasting. I remind hang the duck is coldest room in the house and have a fan blowing on it while one else would walk around the house in heavy coats because we could not turn on the heater. Overnight was more than enough time. Hope Mrs. yimster does not read this post otherwise I know what I will be doing first thing next year.

                  Will need try to write down the recipe for the kids so it is not losed.

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                Alan408 Dec 22, 2004 04:10 PM

                Peking Duck, the dish served in Chinese style restaurants is what I consider an "entertainment dish". Usually the waitstaff prepares individual servings for the diner at the table.

                PD is the crisp skin of a Chinese style roasted duck, served in a small flour tortilla or small steamed bun, seasoned with a dab of hosin sauce, dressed with some green onion.

                If you enjoy crisp duck skin, you would like PD.

                I think they are Long Island Ducks (common name), but when I called the local Chinese style deli to inquire, the person who answered the phone, said he didn't understand, and to call back after 3:00 (it is ~2:00).

                I am not sure what I would order between roast duck and peking duck. Probably roast duck.

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                  chococat Dec 22, 2004 06:52 PM

                  When I had Peking Duck in Hong Kong, here's how it was served:

                  First-- the waiter brought out the golden duck and presented slices of crispy skin on little buns or crepes with green onion and hoisin sauce. Then he took the carcass (with most of the meat) away.

                  Second-- we got a stirfried dish of veggies and mushrooms and the duck meat. It was a little greasy, but maybe that's just how they prepared it at the restaurant we were at.

                  Third-- we got some duck soup at the end that was supposedly made from the duck bones, but who really knows!

                  It was more of a presentation thing (as the previous poster said) than a transcendant food experience. The skin was the best part. Everything after that was pretty "eh".

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