273747 Mon Apr 04 23:48:46 -0700 2005 8 28 Kosher 0 1440743 Hi, I'm working on my Passover recipe page, and am trying to be sure I'm not including any item that can't be found in marked kosher for Passover packaging, other than quinoa which I'm including anyway. I asked at ask.moses.com and the person wasn't sure, and I asked an Orthodox friend of mine and he wasn't sure either... Is there commercially available kosher for passover tahini paste available? One of the vegan dishes I want to put up as a seder option just wouldn't be the same without it, so I really want to know so I can label the recipe properly. I think Tahini paste is OK by sephardic rules, but if something's OK by sephardic and not ashkenazic, does that affect the markings and availability of commercial brands of specified kosher for passover products? And the other stumper of yesterday...are souffles legal Psssover dessert material? They only consist of butter eggs and sugar, but the whole point of a souffle is to rise...my vote is if you can have passover cereal than just about anything goes. I'm all about gourmet passover food that makes you not feel deprived for a week, and a really good chocolate dessert beats out macaroons any day! But I do wonder if there's anything official said about that, so if anyone knows, I'm curious...I'm not that strict, but I don't want my website to be confusing to people who don't know about Passover (ie know the rules before you break them)so if I'm doing something that's in a gray area, I like keep people informed of that. peace, caryn Link: http://www.caryn.com/holiday/passover/recipes.html Mon Apr 04 23:48:46 -0700 2005 0 caryn 1 1440755 Well, sponge cake is kosher l'Pesach. Egg whites are used there for "leavening." Tue Apr 05 13:36:02 -0700 2005 1440743 0 p.j. 2 1440761 Right! That was pretty much my college breakfast food for all of Passover week. That's why I'm assuming it's Ok unless I hear otherwise. I've had a friend who is aa chef make mini chocolate souffles for my seders for the last 2 years. It's just that I'm not all strict about it. So I was wondering how people who are would think about that... Link: http://www.caryn.com/holiday/passover/recipes.html Tue Apr 05 19:11:24 -0700 2005 1440755 0 caryn 1 1440764 I believe the restriction is limited to flour from certain types of grain (most common ones), plus (ashkenazim only) rice, corn, beans and certain seeds (maybe all seeds?), as well as derivatives of the above (e.g., certain types of vinegar). Then there is the "gebrokts" issue, where some people use matzoh meal for baking and other purposes, while others follow a custom not to. (If your custom is the latter, you can't make matzoh balls on passover -- sacre bleu!). So, based on the above (which could be wrong -- I am not a halachic authority), it seems that if you can get a flourless chocolate souffle to rise, eat it in good health! Wed Apr 06 10:02:34 -0700 2005 1440743 0 uncle moishy 2 1440775 I think surely somewhere there must be some law that says it's sacreligious to NOT make matzah balls on Passover!!! If not, I think we need to find some rabbi somewhere to get that one in the books... LOL! Link: http://www.caryn.com/holiday/passover Wed Apr 06 16:01:04 -0700 2005 1440764 0 caryn 1 1440773 Caryn, I doubt you will be able to find a "P" certified Tahini. You are correct about the Ashkenazic prohibition. Then the question is would a Sephard use something uncertified. Since most of the usual alternatives are also unaceptable I would either drop the recipie or include a large caveat in the title and recipie. Sandy Wed Apr 06 13:57:52 -0700 2005 1440743 0 SandyW 2 1440776 Thanks. I added a warning. : ) Link: http://www.caryn.com/holiday/passover Wed Apr 06 16:03:12 -0700 2005 1440773 0 caryn 3 1445376 Sesame seeds, therefore tahini, are permitted on Pesach, but even among Sephardim the seeds must still be checked for chametz. An easy solution would be to go and buy raw sesame seeds, check them yourself and make your own tahini. It a very easy process, grinding them into a paste. YOu can find the receipe online im sure. Sat Apr 15 16:58:34 -0700 2006 1440776 0 Yaacov Ben-Mordi 1 1440792 Caryn, I was in a store (Jewel) here in Chicago last night and they have on the shelf a brand of tahini that must be KP. I say this because it was in the KP section in several sizes. This store is a flagship store under rigorous OU supervision (another story) and while I could not exactly find the KP cert. I'm sure there must be one. The manufacturer is Miki (see below) Link: http://www.mikidelicatessen.co.il/saladse.htm Fri Apr 08 13:25:37 -0700 2005 1440743 0 SandyW