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Worst Kosher Pizza in NYC

soy vey Apr 1, 2005 01:22 PM

I vote for a tie between the cold shrivelled up slices at Bagels & Co. and the dirty, three-day-old pies at Cafe Roma, always served with a frown.

We also have to acknowledge some of the best pizza -- for me, that's Cafe Viva.

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    Kosher Maven Apr 1, 2005 03:02 PM

    I have to agree with you about Viva... not only do they have good kosher pizza, they deliver on Shabbos! Shabbat Shalom chowhounds!

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    1. re: Kosher Maven
      RachelMolly Apr 2, 2005 07:12 PM

      I happen to like the greasiness of J2 as well as the healthy, fresh taste of Viva,

      but since we're talking about NYC and that does include the 5 Boroughs, I would venture to say that the best Kosher Pizza is at Pizza Time in Brooklyn, Avenue J between 14th and 15th (or it could be 15th /16th) streets.

      Amnon's in Borough Park is also good.

      I would say the worst Kosher pizza I have had is at the Vegetable Garden on 41st bet. Park and Madison.

      Why are there no good pizza options on the east side in Midtown?!?!

      1. re: RachelMolly
        soy vey Apr 4, 2005 09:57 AM

        pizza time is pretty good, and they aren't mean to their customers, which is a plus.

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          Craig Jun 19, 2005 12:30 PM

          There are many places that can be up for the "worst kosher pizza", but since we started talking about the best I think someone should mention Makor Cafe! Their pizza is individual pies but they are so crispy and so fresh. no greasyness just good fresh ingredients.

        2. re: RachelMolly
          knowitall2 Apr 10, 2008 02:34 AM

          pizza time rocks!!!!!

          1. re: RachelMolly
            kosherfoodies Feb 15, 2010 06:59 PM

            yes, pizza time is the BEST kosher pizza i've ever eaten!

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          hg Apr 1, 2005 04:51 PM

          I agree with you on Viva's pizza. We love the one downtown. Definitely our favorite. My husband is not a pizza fan but he loves Viva's pizza. It can get a bit expensive.

          I don't like J2 or Roma. I think J2 has all this hype and its really just so greasy.

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            Howard Apr 2, 2005 10:05 PM

            I think the pizza at Pizza Cave on West 72nd is excellent.

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            1. re: Howard
              pizzaboy Jun 8, 2005 05:46 PM

              Pizza cave is horrible. it is a sad state of affairs that a place like that can even survive.
              i've yet to find anything close to Pizza Time quality in Manhattan. any suggestions?

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              Hirschey's Apr 4, 2005 12:26 AM

              If we're talking about anywhere in ny, my vote goes to Pizza Professor in queens. Best pizza I've ever had! The Italian pies are amazing.

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              1. re: Hirschey's
                hg Apr 4, 2005 05:58 PM

                Another vote for the Professor! I like that they use fresh veggies on their pizzas.

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                  midasgold May 29, 2008 06:20 PM

                  I concur. Pizza Professor is the absolute best pizza our family has had anywhere in the NYC area. The special combination pizzas - Professor Italiano with portabello 'shrooms and sundried tomatoes was one of 'em - was an unbelievable value; don't know if it still is, what with the recent food price increases all over the land.

                  The Pizza Professor reminds us of the old location Mama Leah's Pizza (across from non-kosher Papa John's Pizza) on Reistertown Roda in Baltimore, MD.

                  Hands down, our favorite pizza anywhere is Pizza World (nee Kosher Nostra) in L.A. The mexican pizza there is superb (it was 25 years ago when we first had it, and it still is)... it used to have great sauce, a thin layer of refried beans, lots of melted cheese, all topped with fresh lettuce, tomatoes, and avacado... yum! The milchig mexican items at Pizza World are great, and we don't understand why we can't find ANY kosher mexican restaurants or pizza places with Mexican food anywhere in the NYC area! I'm sure it would be VERY popular, based on the number of New Yorkers who gobble up the stuff at Pizza World, Kosher Pizza Express, and other eateries with milchig Mexican food in the L.A. area (and puh-lease, don't mention the fleishig Carlos and Gabby's cantina in Cedarhurst, NY which doesn't resemble real Mexican food in the least, though the sandwiches are very tasty, but pricy).

                  Boruch Hashem we can get all kinds of kosher-certified tortillas (both corn and wheat) and salsas in the NYC area these days, so we can make our own milchig and fleishig Mexican food!


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                  Prozack Feb 14, 2010 05:40 AM

                  Just went there for the first time after hearing all of the hype--seriously delicious pizza! so glad we went!

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                  Josh Apr 4, 2005 02:08 PM

                  I haven't ever really tasted a very good kosher pie.

                  Some of the worst include:
                  Pizza Professor (Queens and Cedarhurst)
                  J2 (Midtown)
                  Naomi's (Queens)

                  Some of the better:
                  Viva Pizza
                  Pizza Cave (UWS)
                  Pizza Pious (Woodmere)
                  Sabra's (Cedarhurst)

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                  1. re: Josh
                    soy vey Apr 4, 2005 02:40 PM

                    thanks for mentioning jII, the filthy overpriced go-to spot for hungry families of 12. their miniscule slices repel us, but that convenient midtown location keeps us coming back for more.

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                    uncle moishy Apr 4, 2005 05:02 PM

                    So where is Cafe Viva? Now that people have touted it, I'm ready to try it. And how does the delivery on Shabbos work?

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                      Typo Apr 5, 2005 09:21 AM

                      There's this nasty, nasty store on 13th avenue and... I believe 50th Street in Brooklyn. It tastes like someone sprinkled rat droppings into it.

                      I won't go to JII either, as I think it's pretty sucky.

                      I like Viva near Stern college, and miss the old Cafe Roma by Touro.

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                      1. re: Typo
                        4greatkds Apr 10, 2008 07:44 AM

                        worst koshe pizza by far is in monsey, pretty much all of them, but one in particular. they are dirty, and do not taste like pizza!

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                          KosherHound Jan 28, 2010 10:35 AM

                          I have to disagree with you, there. I lived briefly in Baltimore (after nyc) and their pizza is the absolute worst I have EVER tasted. And before I kept kosher, I'd eaten from chains like Dominos and Papa Johns. B'more pizza is just nasty, nasty, nasty!

                          I don't know if Benny's on M in Flatbush was mentioned, but they have fantastic pizza for more adult tastes.

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                            The Cameraman Jan 28, 2010 11:48 AM

                            Aside from Umami and David Chu's, Baltimore's restaurants in general leave much to be desired. Expensive, bad food, rudely served, seems to be the norm here. Which is incredibly odd, because the only rude people I've encountered in Baltimore work in restaurants. The must export all their food service workers from Brooklyn or something.

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                              KosherHound Jan 29, 2010 11:53 AM

                              I agree 100%. David Chu's is great service-wise because it isn't jews you're dealing with. Their food is very mediocre greasy Americanized chinese fare, but it's edible and I ordered from them regularly because they were just nicer and easier to deal with (and prompt with delivery). I have been told by more than one person that the restaurants here are catering to a poorer demographic than brooklyn, and as such they don't really care about the food quality or the service. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me, but clearly something has gone wrong here.

                              1. re: KosherHound
                                SimonF Feb 2, 2010 10:33 AM

                                I actually really like Kosher Bite in Baltimore. Not fancy but yummy greasy mmm.

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                                  The Cameraman Feb 2, 2010 11:03 AM

                                  I went to Kosher Bite once because I heard they had added schwarma and laffa. The schwarma wasn't terrible, despite the fact that it was grilled and not on an eish-tannur or whatever you call the rotating upright rotisserie thingy, but the "laffa" was clearly a tortilla. Not a bad tortilla, but not the flavor I was looking for.

                                  At least it's better than the sad excuse for a pizza shop that Silver Sping has to deal with (expensive, rude, and bad food).

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                        websterhall1994 Apr 10, 2008 02:18 PM

                        Since some have included Long Island, I must mention Pizza Dave and Sabra as the best and Shula's and Jerusalem as the worst.

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                          busybee123 May 28, 2008 04:53 PM

                          Great pizza at "Dagan Pizza" in a little known part of Brooklyn called Mill Basin (short drive away from flatbush)...its on the corner of strickland avenue and mill avenue (right off avenue U)...their pizza has the perfect cheese to sauce ratio, great crust, and good texture and is always delicous

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                            MartyB May 28, 2008 05:34 PM

                            Loved his pizza when he was located (and I lived) in Canarsie, looked like half of Crown Heights came to him for pizza.

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                            smartypants Jan 25, 2010 09:23 AM

                            best kosher pizza is in the Bronx - Judean Hills. Yum!

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