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<topic>
  <id>273275</id>
  <title>Where find kosher: Salted fermented black beans</title>
  <published_at>Mon Jun 14 15:16:26 -0700 2004</published_at>
  <post_count>9</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>28</id>
    <name>Kosher</name>
  </board>
  <posts>
    <post>
      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>1437974</id>
        <content>I would think they need a hechsher. Is it possible to find kosher ones?</content>
        <published_at>Mon Jun 14 15:16:26 -0700 2004</published_at>
        <parent_id></parent_id>
        <user>
          <id>0</id>
          <name>Lev N. Tien</name>
        </user>
      </post>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1437975</id>
      <content>I found this on a site about kosher cooking:
 
"These imported small black beans have been fermented and preserved in salt. I could not find any brand of fermented black beans with rabbinical approval, however I see no problem in them. They are an important spice in Chinese cooking and are a pure vegetable product sold packaged in Asian groceries. These beans are soft and chewy with a pungent aroma, and they add a delightful flavour to dishes cooked with minced garlic and fresh ginger and are especially good with stir fried beef or steamed fish. They can be stored indefinitely in the refrigerator in an airtight container."</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jun 14 15:23:56 -0700 2004</published_at>
      <parent_id>1437974</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>DeisCane</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1437985</id>
      <content>My understanding is that anything that is processed or out of its natural state (i.e. anything that has gone through a fermenting process) needs supervision -except beer.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jun 15 11:49:44 -0700 2004</published_at>
      <parent_id>1437975</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>texasmensch</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>1437988</id>
      <content>Yeah, I agree with that...I was just forwarding what I'd found. I'd guess for most conservative kosher-keepers, that would apply.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jun 15 13:48:20 -0700 2004</published_at>
      <parent_id>1437985</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>DeisCane</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>1438001</id>
      <content>"I'd guess for most conservative kosher-keepers, that would apply."
 
Ah, yes indeed.  If only we "conservative kosher-keepers" would take the lesson from our "orthodox kosher-keeper" friends when it comes to adopting a single, unified approach to kashruth standards... (chuckle)
 
Cheers,
 
-Nathan</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jun 16 01:36:54 -0700 2004</published_at>
      <parent_id>1437988</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>CT Kosher Ben Noach</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>1438007</id>
      <content>No need to get snippy.  It was not meant as an insult, and since I fall more into that category, I'm certainly in no rush to cause trouble.  There is a difference and I was acknowledging it, that's all.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jun 16 11:28:06 -0700 2004</published_at>
      <parent_id>1438001</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Deiscane</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>6</level>
      <id>1438016</id>
      <content>"There is a difference and I was acknowledging it, that's all."
 
A difference as defined by what?  By whom?  If you are looking for an official definition of kosher for the Conservative movement, you can check out the links in previous postings on this subject.  You might find that you are using the term incorrectly to imply a lack of standards similar to and in most cases the same as "orthodox standards" - which clearly vary across the different "orthodox" factions.
 
BTW, my family falls " in between" the lines of various movements, so I feel no need to defend the Conservative movement; ignorance about that movement's standards, however, is difficult for me to ignore.  I have my issues with almost every "movement".
 
Now, for a change of pace, I'll put my energy into finding some kosher wide rice noodles to make chow fun with black bean sauce!
 
Cheers,
 
-Nathan</content>
      <published_at>Thu Jun 17 01:03:52 -0700 2004</published_at>
      <parent_id>1438007</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>CT Kosher Ben Noach</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>7</level>
      <id>1438022</id>
      <content>The difference is defined anecdotally.  My friends who are conservative and kosher are not as rigorous as my orthodox friends. That's all.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Jun 17 09:10:49 -0700 2004</published_at>
      <parent_id>1438016</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>DeisCane</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1437979</id>
      <content>I bought it at Kosher Depot.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jun 14 18:11:24 -0700 2004</published_at>
      <parent_id>1437974</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Sharon Lebewohl</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1437983</id>
      <content>Pick-n-pay on ave M in Brooklyn carries them.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jun 15 07:04:41 -0700 2004</published_at>
      <parent_id>1437974</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>elana</name>
      </user>
    </post>
  </posts>
</topic>
