269144 Sat Apr 07 00:31:24 -0700 2001 17 17 What's My Craving? 0 1418296 I've looked for really good fish & chips all over Manhattan, but I can't find anything as good as the real thing. I've found good fish, but the chips don't even come close to my expectations. Is there a true "chippy" out there somewhere? St. Dymphna's on St. Marks Place (Irish) has stellar fish, but the "chips" are just American-style French fries. By the way, I'd like to find a really authentic chippy, where they wrap it up in newspaper and don't even keep ketchup in the store!! Sat Apr 07 00:31:24 -0700 2001 0 Ben A. 1 1418304 I haven't tried it yet, but I recently noticed that a fish & chips shop has opened next door to Tea & Sympathy and Carry On Tea & Sympathy on Greenwich Avenue just south of 13th St. It looks like it's owned by the same folks. Worth a try, I'd think. Can anyone offer a first-hand report? Mon Apr 09 11:45:59 -0700 2001 1418296 0 chimera 2 1418308 I really enjoyed my fish and chips at A Salt & Battery. Very crunchy fish (I ordered it well done) and the fish (cod), inside was moist and buttery tasting. Really good. The chips were good too. & They do wrap it up the paper as the poster desired. The only down point was that the fish, chips and soda was about 11 bucks. A bit steep for cod. Even so, I definately plan on going back. I have an urge for it already and it's only 8am! Tue Apr 10 08:29:52 -0700 2001 1418304 0 Michele Cindy 3 1418354 But has anyone tried either the deep fried Mars bar or the deep fried Cadbury Creme Eggs? Thu Apr 19 09:50:54 -0700 2001 1418308 0 ruth arcone 4 1418355 The deep frying of anything and everything is not a passion of the English. It is a strange and slightly sordid pastime of our kilted cousins on the wrong side of Hadrian's Wall. I believe many of them still paint their faces blue and still " Go Commando" under their skirts. The most disgusting things I have encountered on my fortunately infrequent visits to the barbarous realm are Deep fried Spring Rolls ( Already in batter, covered in more batter and fried ) Deep fried kit kats Deep fried pies ( scotch pie being the top seller ) Deep friend pizza And, wait for it, an entire deep fried hamburger in a bun, lettuce and all Thu Apr 19 10:27:54 -0700 2001 1418354 0 Simon Majumdar 5 1418357 Simon, can you verify that a Mars Bar in the UK is what is a Milky Way bar in the US: nougat and caramel covered in chocolate? Here, a Mars Bar is nougat with whole almonds covered in chocolate, but I've been told about the diff. in the UK. If that's true, I wonder if A Salt and Battery is using imported British Mars Bars (it is owned by people with a shop selling British imported foodstuffs). Not that this (or anything) would make me try a deep-fried one. Though I'm not a big fried-food fan in general, fish and chips are wonderful, as are good doughnuts, beignets, fritters, tempura, etc.--but the rest? Ugh. Thu Apr 19 12:25:54 -0700 2001 1418355 0 Caitlin McGrath 6 1418358 The Mars Bars at A Salt etc are the brit imported ones and are what you call milky Ways. The brit Milky Way is a different thing all together. As a fan of all things clog inducing, I should love all of these, but they are truly disgusting, even to me, who recently had to endure a Denny's. Thu Apr 19 12:43:05 -0700 2001 1418357 0 Simon Majumdar 7 1418360 You had to endure a Denny's? I am so sorry. Thanks for the info. What's in a Milky Way over there? Thu Apr 19 13:09:23 -0700 2001 1418358 0 Caitlin McGrath 8 1418362 Caitlin, the milky way in the UK is like a small musketeer. I loved milky ways as a kid. I once bought a stale one when I was around 8 yrs old, and i sent it back to the mars co. They sent me a box of 48 milky ways...i was in heaven. Thu Apr 19 14:05:29 -0700 2001 1418360 0 yvonne johnson 9 1418363 Right on, yvonne! There's an early chowhound story for the record books! Thu Apr 19 14:28:16 -0700 2001 1418362 0 Anne Emry 10 1418413 Simon, I had recently endured an English sitcom on public tv last weekend and believe me, English humor is drier than the food at Denny's. I guess us yanks' just don't get it. Thu May 03 14:37:07 -0700 2001 1418363 0 Matt P. 5 1418361 now, now Simon. the scottish curse indeed. what about the sordid practices of you yorkies--deep frying your fish *twice*?! I've just dug out a Wall Street Journal article from a few years back. A reporter was sent to Glasgow in search of healthy food. His report is titled: "Lethal cuisine takes high toll in Glasgow, west's sickest city; Eggs, fat and cream crowdie clog arteries and help send folks 'up the road': Real men don't eat fruit" the country's delightful pantry: lard, pies, fries, Irn-Bru [i'd forgotten all about it. Quite nice cola] given to babies in bottles, "it's cheaper than milk and it keeps her calm", hattit kit (buttermilk, cream sugar), scotch eggs aka "the greasy cannonball", oatmeal, more cream, suet, treacle, dumplings, black pudding, fried sweet puddings....so little fresh fruit and veg eaten, MDs still come across rickets and scurvy. Now add to the mix cigarettes aka "coffin nails", and heavy drinking. A man in a pub dead for hours, slumped in his chair while his chums continued drinking, they thought he was just taking a kip. triple by-pass surgery when you're in your 40s, fatal heart attack rate 800% higher than Japan, life expectanty on a par with Cuba. Glaswegians have a black suit at work just in case another mate snuffs it. Picture of health. ps: if you can face going north of the border again try the Peat Inn (near St Andrews) or the Altnaharrie Inn (ullapool). sadly, tho, no deep fried pizza on their menus. Thu Apr 19 13:58:09 -0700 2001 1418355 0 yvonne johnson 6 1418599 Rubbish! If that writer had really been in Glasgow recently, he would find it awash with wonderful organic restaurants, great Indian, Thai and many `new British cuisine' restaurants. I was there in April 2000 and was amazed by the variety and quality of food. Mon Jun 11 20:21:56 -0700 2001 1418361 0 Mary Brennan 5 1418509 Have you ever tried deep-fried haggis and chips? Oddly, I thought it was delicious, but then I grew up on fried clams (not clam necks), fries and onion rings Thu May 17 21:45:56 -0700 2001 1418355 0 MikeC 3 1418383 112 greenwich ave 691 2713 restaurant-ed out. too much lately. Other half in Scotland at conf. not right, he's english and i'm the heathen. he said on phone he'd had dinner at the ‘ubiquitous chip’ in Glasgow. excellent, but no chips. no chips? contrary to WSJ old article i dug out other day, Glasgow has gone healthy. shock. but gave me an idea. fish and chips for dinner. Gave ASAB another go. had a chip butty before. Not impressed. Chips not cooked through. bun dry. seemed ungracious to complain not having tasted their fish. Tonight: out of cod. Staff recommended the halibut-- my fav fish. Ordered this with chips, big pickled onion, bread and butter to go. Fish stood up well after couple of blocks home. Oh, the halibut. Huge piece, crispy batter, moist. I agree with you. terrific fish. On its own an excellent meal. But again the chips weren’t good. they are in the bin. cooked thoroughly this time but what’s missing? Salt. Vegs must have a salt point-of-no-return. boil pots and stupidly forget to salt=horrid. a similar thing occurs with the second step,the cooked pot. In good chippers they'll always ask you "Salt and vinegar?" before wrapping. i now realize how important this is. immediate salting is a must. No amount later will do any good. one of the pleasures of chip shop chips is the waxy greasy coating in your mouth afterwards—-even hours after. ASAB chips are too healthy. No lard. Pure veggie oil. Bread. They should chuck those dry buns. and i'm not convinced they use butter on them. also, avoid the tartar sauce, a green mess of pulped capers. Fish very good but forget the rest. ps: i saw them packing parcels. they now deliver (tho i don't know if it's official yet). Mon Apr 23 00:23:50 -0700 2001 1418308 0 yvonne johnson 4 1418385 I try not to get fried foods for take away because of the soggy at home problem. The heat from the dish always creates a moist environment. When I was there I instructed them to make the chips VERY well done and they came out fine. The ticket even read VERY VERY well done. Did the salt keep them crunchy? I have to go back and try again. Taking a day off Friday, so I'll try them again at lunch. Hope it's good! Mon Apr 23 08:29:57 -0700 2001 1418383 0 Michele Cindy 5 1418387 "The ticket even read VERY VERY well done." interesting. michele cindy (great name), where did you learn this? i'd never think to ask. having tasted the chips in shop and at home i'm not sure it's the soggy-home-prob you describe. tho this is a real threat to most things ordered in. ewwwh, fried dumplings stewed in their own air. i think it's catering for people who are scared of good lard (even tho it's not that bad for you) Mon Apr 23 14:14:34 -0700 2001 1418385 0 yvonne johnson 1 1418306 FYI: The place on Greenwich Avenue is called (somewhat annoyingly) A Salt & Battery. Still haven't sampled the wares, but I passed by this afternoon. Please let me know what you think if you go. Mon Apr 09 21:47:31 -0700 2001 1418296 0 chimera