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Craving a great hotel bar in Manhattan

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JudyL May 25, 1999 11:08 AM

I'm looking for a great hotel bar, with alot of
atmosphere and great martinis to take some out-of-
towners. Preferably one with some historical ambience.

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    Katherine de Vos Jun 10, 1999 11:23 PM

    WOW, there are more NYers with taste than I realized.
    BEMELMAN'S, 57,57, and the KING COLE BAR are
    all fantastic...but what about the petit, sophisticated
    bar at THE MARK?

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      Dave Feldman May 25, 1999 11:39 PM

      If it's history and ambiance you crave, may I add the
      Algonquin? It reeks. Of history, that is.

      And I second the Oak Bar at the Plaza, guaranteed to
      make you feel like an adult, or as someone over 21
      resembling an adult.

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        Jennifer Stott May 25, 1999 11:45 AM

        The St.Regis bar is beautiful, featuring a witty Maxfield Parish mural. The martinis are great, but you really need one after negotiating with the rude staff for a table. The garden bar at the top of the Peninsula is spectacular on a nice night, with views up Fifth Avenue to Central Park.

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          Michele Fuchs May 25, 1999 01:20 PM

          I would highly recommend the Old King Cole bar at the
          St. Regis. It is my favorite place, as far as bars
          go. However, in order to ensure your ease in getting
          a table, reserve in advance. Yes, they reserve tables
          in the bar and they have great bar food. Not wings and
          the like, but a nice menu. On any given day you may
          see Billy Joel, Judy Collins, writers, etc.

          Another great place is the bar/ rest. 57/57 at the
          Four Seasons Hotel. Also very crowded but hip.

          And...Asia de Cuba in the Morgan Hotel on Madison and
          37th. VERY hip, greaqt menu (apps and entrees).

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            Heidi May 25, 1999 03:26 PM

            I am also a fan of the Four Seasons. For another hip-
            cool ambience, try the lobby-bar at the Royalton.
            Great poseur-watching.

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              Jim Leff May 25, 1999 05:26 PM

              "Great poseur-watching"

              I was in almost in a band once called "Strike a Poseur"

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                Heidi May 25, 1999 05:55 PM

                Love it.

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                  Renee May 25, 1999 06:49 PM

                  I like the piano bar at the Carlyle hotel,Bemelens.
                  They have those wonderful murals that have been
                  preserved.
                  The Sherry Netherlands is has old world beauty, just
                  outside the cocktail lounge is my favorite spot to
                  inbibe.
                  The Plaza has several bars, the Oak Bar is one, very
                  pretty overlooking the park. My favorite is The Palm
                  Court, light and airy, I am not sure if they still
                  have violin music, very romantic. Lots of history at
                  the Plaza, I had my wedding there 40 years ago, that
                  must make some kind of historic note!

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                    Frank Language May 25, 1999 09:11 PM

                    "I like the piano bar at the Carlyle hotel,Bemelens.
                    They have those wonderful murals that have been
                    preserved."

                    Those, of course, are by Ludwig Bemelmans, creator of
                    the Madeline books. Worth a trip just to peek in.

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                      Michele Fuchs May 26, 1999 09:10 AM

                      I also LOVE Bemelman's Bar. It is always a treat. It
                      is also pricey but not near that of the Peninsula
                      Hotel rooftop bar. It is outrageous, even by NY
                      standards.

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                        Martha Gehan May 26, 1999 12:40 PM

                        And Bemelmans Bar has those fabulous fresh potato
                        chips-I've actually had them a few times when they've
                        still been warm-YUM!

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                          Michele Fuchs May 26, 1999 12:47 PM

                          Definitely terrific, VERY fattening and they also give
                          you mixed nuts, the premium kind WITH cashews!

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                            Renee Jun 2, 1999 10:29 PM

                            Tonight, we decided to go back to the wonderful
                            Carlyle lounge for some champagne. we have not been
                            there for about two years. Our beloved Peter was
                            still tickleing the ivories. When we came into the
                            room, Peter, with out hesitation, played," You stepped
                            out of a dream." Peter is REALLY good.

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                            Sleepy LaBeef May 28, 1999 12:20 AM

                            Bemelmens Bar is A-Number 1 the best hotel bar in the
                            city especially when Peter Mintun's playing piano. He
                            plays songs my parents don't even remember. "He plays
                            songs nobody remembers," as my mom put it. But, he is
                            so cool! Think of that bar from "The Shining." Think
                            Galiano Stingers...chilled.

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                              Renee May 28, 1999 05:16 PM

                              You are so right about Peter and his repertoire, it is
                              astounding.
                              one evening, my husband requested,"You stepped out of
                              a dream," it was a song that Tony Martin did so many
                              years ago. Well, we finally stumped Peter, he swore
                              he would learn the song. When we returned to
                              Bemelen's several months later, Peter must have seen
                              us enter the room and there was the melody, it was
                              like a movie entrance. Now, whenever we arrive, we
                              can be sure that Peter will have this greeting for us.

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              Bob Dively May 25, 1999 05:33 PM

              I agree that the bar atop the Peninsula is spectacular
              but be warned that the prices are also. The first
              time I was there, I knew it wasn't going to be cheap
              but was still shocked into stuttering incoherence when
              I was told that my Heineken was worth $11.34.

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