267065 Sun Nov 06 18:52:37 -0800 2005 24 35 Beer 0 1408291 I discovered a beer in Mexico this week that was really very high quality for a mass produced beer. Victoria Negra, better than any other Mexican beers I have had. Sun Nov 06 18:52:37 -0800 2005 0 zach 1 1408365 i was recently in mexico and also had victoria. thought it was great. actually, i had a few mexican beers that were considerably better (imho) than the corona or dos equis we're used to. now if i could just remember the names of any of them... Wed Nov 09 04:29:14 -0800 2005 1408291 0 hobokeg 1 1408373 Years ago in the Yucatan, I fell in love with a dark beer called Leon. It went particularly well with the delicious local food, especially turkey in various sauces. Does any one know if Leon is still around, and where I can get some in France?? Wed Nov 09 11:15:41 -0800 2005 1408291 0 Moshulu 2 1408505 Yes, Leon is still brewed. Unfortunately, I have no clue as to whether it would be available in France. Mon Nov 14 01:56:45 -0800 2005 1408373 0 Gayla 2 1408669 Yes, Leon Beer is still around and made if I am not mistaken by the Modelo Beer company. It has two or three sister beers as well along the same lines of quality but with flavor and body differances. Another excellent beer here in Mexico, known as the "Cream of Beers" is Negro Modelo. It is a full bodied taste without being a "filler upper" as I call some heavier beers that make you feel as full as if you had already eaten dinner. EJL Sun Nov 20 10:32:13 -0800 2005 1408373 0 EJ Lonergan 3 1411673 Can I buy Leon beer in Texas? Fri Mar 03 14:27:07 -0800 2006 1408669 0 Jan Philipp 3 1714054 I'm totally with you on Negro Modelo. Love the stuff. Tue Jun 27 02:58:14 -0700 2006 1408669 10658 Atomica 4 1714379 It's actually Negra Modelo (not Negro). Excellent beer. I have never seen Leon in the US, though I wouldn't be surprised if you could buy it in Texas. Tue Jun 27 13:03:23 -0700 2006 1714054 11296 Darren72 1 1714941 Often Mexican beers are better in Mexico since they are fresher and haven't been warehoused so long. I tend to like pilsner style beers, and my favorite Mexicans are Bohemia and Pacifico. Both have nice hops character and some maltiness. Your results may differ ed (the poster formerly known as e.d.) Tue Jun 27 17:58:49 -0700 2006 1408291 10318 Phoo D 2 1728392 Tried Negro Modelo in Watsonville, CA a few days back.... Compared to fresh brewpub beer, bottled beer don't cut it at all. I can recommend Moylan's in Novato, and Thirsty Bear in San Francisco. Russian River Brewing Co. in Santa Rosa makes usually excellent Belgians. Beer aged in oak casks - there's a brew.... Thu Jul 06 00:03:00 -0700 2006 1714941 16290 Waterboy 1 1729747 Negra Modelo is the best (IMO) widely available in the US mexican beer. Try it with some Mole or a good green chili and just try to tell me you don't want to move to Mexico tomorrow. Thu Jul 06 18:38:27 -0700 2006 1408291 15425 RobotDeathSquad 1 1734230 Negra Modelo and Bohemia are both excellent, European-style beers--I think of Modelo as a Bavarian style dark. I'm assumning the old German connection in Mexico was responsible for the good brewing tradition. http://petercherches.blogspot.com Sun Jul 09 05:15:32 -0700 2006 1408291 10736 Peter Cherches 2 1734356 Negra Modelo is an unusual dark Oktoberfest-style beer. I'm not sure about Bohemia, but suspect it also benefits from the German connection. Sun Jul 09 10:07:38 -0700 2006 1734230 10998 Jim Dorsch 3 1737853 Apologies if this is too geeked-out, but the Negra Modelo is a Santiago Graf-Style Vienna, a Mexican substyle named for the brewer who developed it. A small percentage of roasted malt is added to the grist in order to bring the mash pH down (rather than treat the liquor with salts), but not so much as to give it an overly roasty flavor. There is an impact in color and flavor, obviously, but it is definitely not in schwartzbier territory. What you said is essentially spot-on, Jim, but I just thought I'd highlight a genuine Mexican contribution to the world of beer. Tue Jul 11 14:14:18 -0700 2006 1734356 12713 TongoRad 1 1740951 I've tried about a dozen Mexican beers and my top five are... Modelo Negra Carta Blanca Pacifico Claro Dos Equis Hussong's The ones I didn't think were very good were... Sol Victoria Modelo Especial (?) I'm sure there are alot of new Mexican beers I haven't had. Wed Jul 12 19:55:35 -0700 2006 1408291 13964 J T 1 1744496 It might rank low on the Mexican beer list, but I love me some Tecate. Fri Jul 14 14:14:44 -0700 2006 1408291 16801 subinai 2 1745407 Here, here. It's what I drank when I was there. DT Fri Jul 14 20:45:36 -0700 2006 1744496 11291 Davwud 3 1746982 Agreed -- and when it's 100 degrees out, you can suck them down and not get even the slightest bit drunk, they're just quaffable. Tecate's not in the running for "best beer" -- it's so far out it can't even see the race -- but it's up there on the drinkability. Sat Jul 15 22:30:46 -0700 2006 1745407 10811 Das Ubergeek 1 1745088 Love Pacifico - tastes much different with a lime, really brings out the flavor in this beer more than any other. Wasn't there a beer called Chihuahua a while back? Thought it was ok. Fri Jul 14 18:50:18 -0700 2006 1408291 14867 Eats2Much 1 1745398 My husband says his favorite beer is Simpatico, but I haven't been able to find it anywhere. I live in Florida -- anyone know where I might find it, even shipped? Fri Jul 14 20:43:49 -0700 2006 1408291 12858 Covert Ops 2 1745689 I don't think they make Simpatico anymore. :( I remember Chihuahua. Fri Jul 14 23:13:11 -0700 2006 1745398 13964 J T 1 1745813 Try Noche Buena if you can find it. It is seasonal - late autumn release for the holidays. It's a bock beer - malty, caramel with clean/crisp finish. The name refers to both Christmas Eve & the poinsettia. I've only had it in Mexico City...haven't seen it in the states...but maybe it can be found closer to the border. Sat Jul 15 00:19:16 -0700 2006 1408291 18750 liegey 2 1745919 Noche Buena was imported to the US years ago, but I'd guess it hasn't been available in the states for a good 15 years, and towards the end I recall it was unfortunately dumbed down. I used to look forward to it in the bad old days when it was hard to find much interesting beer, particularly on the east coast. Has anyone seen it anywhere in the US in recent years? Sat Jul 15 01:49:26 -0700 2006 1745813 10998 Jim Dorsch 3 1747189 Gabriella's on Amsterdam Ave. in the 90's in NYC has Noche Buena near Christmas-time. Sun Jul 16 01:46:50 -0700 2006 1745919 14766 Drew E 1 1748487 A mexican restaurant in Park Slope on 5th ave between 11th and 12th st carries Victoria. I don't know the name of the restaurant, sorry it slips my mind. 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