Sydney and Melbourne chowhounds, please help!
- susanj Jan 9, 2003 08:43 PM
I'll be in Sydney for only three days and plan on eating as much as possible. I know the must-try is Tetsuya's and I've also heard of a new place called Long Grain, which is supposed to be fantastic and extremely difficult to book. Have any of you eaten there and what do you think of it? What kind of food? Does anybody have the address, phone number and fax?? I did a Google search but can't find anything. Is it really that good or are there other, better places to try. I don't want Chinese (I live in Hong Kong) but I want to eat any other cuisine (especially modern Australian) that's fantastic. I've tasted Luke Mangan's (from Salt) when he was a guest chef in Singapore and Hong Kong, but what else? Rockpool? What else is Neil Parry doing now? This is my first trip to Sydney so I want to make it a fantastic eating experience.
Also, re: Tetsuya's, are they still on Kent Street? I've heard they moved - is Kent Street the new address or the old?
I'll also be in Melbourne which I'm less familiar (food wise) with. Any top recommendations??
Longrain can be a bit scene-y, but don't let that put you off - the food is seriously good! Avoid friday nights if you can - the wait can get a bit ridiculous. If you're looking for thai that will blow your mind, try Sailors Thai in the Rocks, or there is also Sailors Thai Canteen upstairs, with cheaper food and no view, and like Longrain, a big communal table. Awesome food though, but I'd go to the main restaurant if you're wanting something really special.
Another suggestion (I know you only have three nights) would be Luke Mangans new(ish - about 12mths) place called Bistro Lulu http://bistrolulu.citysearch.com.au) very yummy french bistro food and only a few minutes from the city on Oxford St Paddington. Been going here since it opened (lucky enough to have it as my local ;-) and they never disappoint.
The other suggestion I have for you is Guillaume at Bennelong - amazing food and views to die for down at the Sydney Opera House. Went there with friends a couple of weeks ago and while it's not cheap, it's absolutely wonderful - incredible food, those views VERY Sydney!!
Best of luck with your search / trip, and enjoy Tetsuyas!
Susan, Try these out:
TETSUYA - 529 KENT STREET, SYDNEY FAX 61 2 9262 7099
Bookings a must and plenty of notice usually required.
LONGRAIN - 85 COMMONWEALTH STREET, SURRY HILLS
FAX 61 2 9280 2887 firstname.lastname@example.org
Yes it is a hipster/bar restaurant but with serious food credentials, serving Thai/southern Chinese.
SALT - 229 DARLINGHURST ROAD, DARLINGHURST
FAX 61 2 9332 2530 email@example.com
ROCKPOOL - 107 GEORGE STREET, SYDNEY FAX 61 2 9252 2421
Other resturants that will be of interest:
PIER (GREG DOYLE) Modern Australian, harbourside dining
594 NEW SOUTH HEAD ROAD, ROSE BAY FAX 61 2 9363 0927
AQUA DINING Modern Australian, harbourside dining, almost underneath the Sydney Harbour Bridge
FAX 61 2 9964 9098 firstname.lastname@example.org
CELSIUS (PETER DOYLE) Modern Australian, world class
FAX 61 2 8214 0495 email@example.com
Susan, all of these are top shelf, world class and expensive for Sydney - A$35-$40 main course. There are many more options so please advise if you need more help.
I am a Melbourne lad so let me know what you are looking for and I will try to assist.
re: Bryan Burrell
Hi Bryan, thanks for these.
Melbourne, I've heard, is better for more ethnic cuisines. What are the really good Middle Eastern and Vietnamese places to try?
Also, a friend brought back some incredibly delicious chocolate covered candied ginger. She bought them in Melbourne at the weekend market (not sure of the name). Unfortunately, we won't be there on the weekend so do you know where else I can find them?
We have many outstanding ethnic restaurants, but I will list a few.
ABLA 109 ELGIN ST, CARLTON FAX: 61.3. 9347 0006
MECCA MID LEVEL, SOUTHGATE, SOUTHBANK, MELBOURNE
FAX: 61 3 9682 6022 firstname.lastname@example.org
There are another 20 listed in the food guides, most of them very inexpensive. These 2 are supposedly the best.
PACIFIC SEAFOOD BBQ HOUSE, 8/240 VICTORIA ST RICHMOND
No need to book.
There are another 50 restaurants in this street alone but this is the best.
You must also take the lunch menu at what I believe is the best Italian restaurant in Australia.
CAFE DI STASIO 31 FITZROY ST ST KILDA
FAX 61 3 9525 3815
A$20 for an always exceptional meal of pasta, main and a glass of wine. And this is not your usual Italian!
Although I haven't been to it since it moved from Manly, the Redgum Restaurant is a good showcase for Australian cuisine mixed with traditional Aboriginal ingredients. It is now in Mosman, which may be a bit out of the way when you are in town for such a short time, but it is something different.
624 Military Road,
MOSMAN NSW 2088
Phone 9969 8544 or Fax 9969 7544
The link to their webpage is below
If you have the time consider taking the public ferry to Manly (or Mosman if you're going to Redgum)--it's the best way to see Sydney Harbour.
I ate at Rockpool in Sydney a couple of years ago and had a great dinner with terrific Australian wines. The service was excellent and the value was good (price was high, but I would have expected much higher). I know that it's a must to book ahead, but I found that if you're willing to eat unfashionably early (for me food takes priority over style), you may get seated immediately without a reservation (of course, your experience may vary). :)
I'm a San Fran transplant in Australia for the past 2.5 years and the food here is some of the best and freshest.
Long Grain is definitely worth a visit. It's 1st-come-1st-serve seating, which means getting one of the yummy "stick" drinks for a 30-minute lounge before dinner makes it worth waiting. Their Mojito is good, or the strawberry caprioska, or anything with lychee's. In fact, I insist you have to try a lychee-tini at some point in your stay. I recommend the backbar at Salt restaurant on Darlinghurst, called FIX, or for drinks with a 360-degree view of Sydney, Level 47 - Orbit Bar at The Summit restaurant at the Australia Square Bldg downtown (haven't eaten there as I am superstitious of revolving restaurants).
For Melbourne, another cozy spot is BECCO;s, or VERVE, or the PUNCH LANE Wine Bar. All are in downtown Melbourne. If you have a chance, take a 10-15 minute taxi ride to St.Kilda and eat at the Bathhouse with a view of the bay at sunset - special, and there are plenty of local bars and pubs to divert to after dinner for a chat.
Since your time is limited, you need to think about something besides dinner and lunch. That means you need to go for breakfast at bill's (I think it's not capitalized). This is the best breakfast in the Sydney area. The suburb is Darlinghurst (433 Liverpool St. 02-9369-9631). Don't let the fact that it's in a 'suburb' discourage you. You can walk there and back if you are in central Sydney for a nice morning pre- or post-breakfast stroll. Your walk may take you through Hyde Park depending on where you are staying. The only drawback -- it will cost you a bit more than an usual breakfast. Still, well worth a trip.
I'll second the recommendation for bill's--I went there last April when I was in Sydney and really enjoyed it. Although I'm not usually a pancake eater, I tried their honey-butter topped ricotta hotcakes, which were really light and fluffy (ended up scraping off some of the honey butter, though). There are other things on the menu that are more savory, if sweet breakfast is not your thing. There's one communal table in the middle in addition to several smaller tables around the edges. You may have to wait a little bit, but I think it's worth it.
I will be Down under soon. How were your meals? It seemed like Bryan really tied to help.
Wow, wow, wow! This is such a great site that I've just stumbled upon. Sooooo good to read about people who love food first before decor etc. I'm also going to be in Sydney & Melbourne and while I'd love to try out many of the places like Tet's, my bank account doesn't allow me to do all of them. So would someone please recommend some cheap and good places to eat seafood especially around the city? Don't mind venturing out a little though. Thank you in advance!
Longrain is also in Melbourne. It is modern Thai, I guess you'd define it, but SENSATIONAL. I loved it, it was expensive but totally worth it. Probably easier to get into than Sydney one.
Melbourne's big occasion restuarant is Vue De Monde, could almost cost as much as Tetsuya's but sooooo worth it. You will not forget the experience. U need to book very early for this too.
There is a nice little tappas place in the city called Movida...yummy and not $$$.
can't write anymore I am getting too hungry.
I think Salt has closed - not certain where Luke is cooking now apart from Lulu. Tetsuya is in Kent Street - the old one was in Rozell. But I noticed the recent comments are not great and I was disapointed when I last ate there in Sept '05.
Longrain (Commonwealth Street) is good, it is funky and clubby but the food is great. It has been open for quite a long time so it doesn't have all the hassle of being the "hot" place anymore (Melbourne's Longrain is quite new and I think very poppular so Sydney could be easier). I would second the recomendation for Sailor Thai a more formal, calmer restaurant. Both good, depends on your mood. But if you want great food in a simple (hawker style) setting try "Spice am I" on Wentworth Street.
I also second "Guaillaume at Bennelong" (in the Opera House) for great food, and a fantastic location and dining room.
"Rockpool' has changed it's approach, Neil has sort of relaunched probably after getting a lot of critism, they now a set menu with a few choices for each course (5 I think) - recent reviews are very positive.
The gastro hotspot seems to be "Becasse" (204 Clarence Steet), very well reviewed, I ate at their original restaurant a few years ago and it was very good.
Others to think about are "Est" and "Claudes". Est is in a bar complex call "The Establishment" and is a "big night out" place with a lovely room and food. Claudes is small and intimate but with fantastic cooking.
Bill's for breakfast is really good - avoid weekends if you can - when you get there find the waiter with the list of names and put yours down. They are pretty good at seating people in order, but they need to know you are waiting and how large your party is.
Last - Sydney is great for food but don't forget to take to opportunity to take in the ambiance. Go to restaurants with views - Icebergs at Bondi, or Aqua Dining for example. Also go to restaurants you can sit outside and breat fresh air without the humidity (I was in HK for a few years).
I just noticed that "Celsius" is also on one of the recomendations. This has also closed. the site is now "Bilsons" another very well rated restaurant. Peter Doyle who was behind the burners at Celsius is now at "Est".