260815 Fri Jan 18 16:10:04 -0800 2002 18 26 International 0 1378248 CALL YOURSELVES CHOWHOUNDS????????? who won the stars today? does anyone know???????? do tell. .. Fri Jan 18 16:10:04 -0800 2002 0 sean 1 1378252 Um. How do I put this politely? Being a chowhound doesn't mean hanging on every word of the Guide Michelin or the Gault-Millau or Zagat. Being a chowhound to me means finding the great places Michelin left out. So... who got the stars? Je m'en fous! I will let my chow radar steer me to the little non-descript place where the door is only on one hinge but Madame has been cooking for sixty years. I will follow the trucks to their watering holes - a routier will go 50 kilometres out of his way to eat at a good restaurant. I will buy a copy of the Guide Michelin but it will be used only occasionally. Fri Jan 18 18:52:01 -0800 2002 1378248 0 PRSMDave 2 1378253 Here's a link to Michelin. If you type in a city and country and indicate price ranges (don't do all 3 for Paris--too many selections, but most starred place are expensive, some moderate), you'll get the stars. I suspect that these are the 2001 ratings but the site is not clear on that so far as I can tell. Link: http://www.viamichelin.com/viamichelin/gbr/dyn/controller/poiHomePage Fri Jan 18 19:59:43 -0800 2002 1378252 0 michael (mea culpa) 2 1378264 I'm heading to Paris next month and have been dissapointed with what I've been finding - all talk of stars and fancy dinners. I'm looking for the place with the door on one hinge where the cook has been for 60 years. Do tell. Sun Jan 20 03:51:31 -0800 2002 1378252 0 Kevin 3 1378266 One of the treasures I have found in this area is La Flambee (which actually is listed in Zagats, but has no ratings, because it is hardly a tourist "destination" restaurant, so don't hold that against it.) It is in the 12th Arr., near the Metro Daumesnil and Dugommier, on the corner of the Rue de Charenton and the Rue Taine. They are charming, southwestern French, with excellent Cassoulet and other terrific food. The door, unfortunately, had both hinges, but the food was one of those wonderful little, not fancy occasion but everyday Paris treasures. In the same neighborhood, the Bercy market on Tuesdays and Fridays is absolutely wonderful -- much more interesting and varied, IMHO than the better known Rue de Seine markets. Sun Jan 20 10:03:58 -0800 2002 1378264 0 Caitlin Wheeler 4 1378271 Thanks for the recommendation, we were planning a visit to the Bercy to see the new cinema museum done by Gehry, now the day is filling out nicely, starting at the market then a nice lunch at Flambee and then a new museum, life doesn't get much better. Any ideas on Algerian cuisine in Paris? I've run across a tiny Tunisian takeaway with what sounds like an awesome sandwich, but have seen nothing Algerian... Sun Jan 20 20:40:23 -0800 2002 1378266 0 kevin 3 1378268 Why not just go to rue Mouffetard (one of the oldest streets in town) in the 6th and just follow your nose? There's usually a street market in the morning and some cafe life at night. Or, if you want to eat under stars as opposed to in them, perhaps Monmartre. Sun Jan 20 15:12:48 -0800 2002 1378264 0 michael (mea culpa) 4 1378270 rue Moufftarde is definitely on the list, don't know how I've been to Paris more than 8 times and missed it - I guess that's why I keep going back, there's always something new. A question on Algerian food - any clue what it is, my guess is somewhere Morrocan and Tunisian, this visit's other focus is Algerian Music. I know there is an Algerian Cultural Center in the 15th near the end of Metro line #8, but can't seem to find references to any cuisine anywhere. Also any leads on Burmese in Paris? One of my favorites in San Fran is Burmese, but I don't get there often enough to take care of the hankerin'. Sun Jan 20 20:00:59 -0800 2002 1378268 0 Kevin 5 1378274 sorry, but the restos on/off la mouffe are mostly tourist traps. but my favourite crepe stand is right at place contrescarpe about midway down la mouffe. ask for a jambon, fromage et oeuf and watch the magic. i thought i was going to have to deal with a runny or scrambled egg but the way the crepemaker cracks an egg right onto the crepe and spreads it thin to just barely cook through is worth the price of admission. there were some posts here recently about favourite bistros and it bears repeating that my favourite of the old les halles bistros is chez clovis. you may also want to check out bonjour paris, a great au courant website about paris and france. (in full disclosure i admit that i occasionally write for them.) Link: http://www.bparis.com/index.htm Mon Jan 21 02:51:22 -0800 2002 1378270 0 louisa 6 1378278 Coincidentally, I had just that crèpe yesterday, from that very crèpe stand (crèpe-iste?) and it was just as described. Mmmmm... Mon Jan 21 08:26:17 -0800 2002 1378274 0 magnolia 7 1378293 you're killing me! i'll be there in 3 long weeks! can't wait to have all 16 flavours of macaroons from laduree - not my scene, too la-tee-dah - but oh those macaroons. see the link below at your own risk. please try not to drool on your computers. Link: http://www.laduree.fr Mon Jan 21 21:40:14 -0800 2002 1378278 0 louisa 5 1378287 If I'm not mistaken, there are lots of Algerians in the 10th. You might search in Michelin's Red Guide there. Or, you could stroll along Boule Mich and ask some of the folks selling African artifacts. Mon Jan 21 15:06:31 -0800 2002 1378270 0 michael (mea culpa) 3 1378304 May I suggest a glance at my newly-launched website, listed below, which includes detailed reviews of thirty Paris Bistros visited within the past half year. John Whiting (London) Link: http://www.whitings-writings.com Tue Jan 22 13:47:10 -0800 2002 1378264 0 John Whiting 4 1378306 Thanks. Nice site. Tue Jan 22 14:17:16 -0800 2002 1378304 0 Nick 4 1378330 Thanks for posting your website. My husband and I are going to Paris in March so the information is timely and appreciated. Wed Jan 23 09:28:56 -0800 2002 1378304 0 AGM/Cape Cod 2 1378299 >Um. How do I put this politely? Being a chowhound >doesn't mean hanging on every word of the Guide >Michelin or the Gault-Millau or Zagat. Being a >chowhound to me means finding the great places >Michelin left out. But surely this depends - to paraphrase a truffle quote - on whether you believe restaurants are good because they have stars or they have stars because they are good... If you believe the former yes, but you believe the latter not necessarily... Tue Jan 22 09:48:34 -0800 2002 1378252 0 Jon Tseng 3 1378319 But surely this depends - to paraphrase a truffle quote - on whether you believe restaurants are good because they have stars or they have stars because they are good...>> The fault, dear chowhound, lies not in our stars but in ourselves. Or, was that the salt? Tue Jan 22 19:47:10 -0800 2002 1378299 0 michael (mea culpa) 1 1378310 CALL YOURSELVES CHOWHOUNDS????????? who won the stars today? does anyone know???????? do tell. .. >> Getting back to your question, I don't think anybody got stars today. I believe the Guide Rouge comes out in late February or early March. Stay tuned. Tue Jan 22 14:41:09 -0800 2002 1378248 0 michael (mea culpa) 1 1378362 Can't give you all of Britain, but here are the London stars. Name Address City cheznico 90 Park Lane Mayfair John Burton-Race 222 Marylebone Rd Regent's Park and Marylebone The Oak Room Marco Pierre White 21 Piccadilly Mayfair Gordon Ramsay 68-69 Royal Hospital Rd Chelsea La Tante Claire Wilton Pl Belgravia Le Gavroche 43 Upper Brook St Mayfair The Restaurant Carlos Pl Mayfair 1 Lombard Street (Restaurant) 1 Lombard St City of London Aubergine 11 Park Walk Chelsea Capital 22-24 Basil St Chelsea Chapter One Farnborough Common, Locksbottom Farnborough City Rhodes 1 New Street Sq City of London Foliage 66 Knightsbridge Hyde Park and Knightsbridge L'Escargot 48 Greek St Soho L'Oranger 5 St James's St Saint James's Mirabelle 56 Curzon St Mayfair Nahm 5 Halkin St Belgravia Orrery 55 Marylebone High St Regent's Park and Marylebone Putney Bridge Lower Richmond Rd Putney Pétrus 33 St James's St Saint James's Rhodes in the Square Dolphin Sq, Chichester St Victoria Tamarind 20 Queen St Mayfair The Square 6-10 Bruton St Mayfair Club Gascon 57 West Smithfield City of London Monsieur Max 133 High St Hampton Hill Nobu 19 Old Park Lane Mayfair Pied à Terre 34 Charlotte St Bloomsbury Richard Corrigan at Lindsay House 21 Romilly St Soho River Café Thames Wharf, Rainville Rd Hammersmith Roussillon 16 St Barnabas St Victoria The Glasshouse 14 Station Par Kew Zafferano 15 Lowndes St Belgravia Zaika 1 Kensington High St Kensington Chez Bruce 2 Bellevue Rd Wandsworth Thu Jan 24 16:52:30 -0800 2002 1378248 0 michael (mea culpa)