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bob Apr 3, 2001 04:52 PM

i will be traveling to paris at the end of the month and i would like to begin making some reservations for dinner and lunch. any recommendations? also, i would like to visit a vineyard if possible. any suggestions of which vineyard to look into?

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    Caitlin Wheeler Apr 3, 2001 08:05 PM

    There are so many good restaurants in Paris; your answers will be more on point if you are more specific. Are you looking for fine dining? Top chefs? Local favorites? Budget options? Classic Parisian? Regional cuisine? Where are you staying? There are many winemaking facilities in the Loire valley, which is an easy trip from Paris.

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      bob Apr 4, 2001 10:01 AM

      i've never dined at a michelin starred restaurant. i would like to have one meal at such a restaurant. would it be possible to have such an experience for under $100 per person? i'm staying near the arc de triomphe but will travel anywhere. otherwise, i'm looking for simple but good bistros that have a moderately priced wine list.

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        Pepper Apr 5, 2001 10:55 AM

        The best deal for luxe dining in Paris is almost certainly Astor, a wonderful two-star near the Madeleine under the supervision of Joel Robuchon. At lunch AND at dinner, there is a ``club menu'' option that includes all the bells and whistles -- amuse, appetizer, entree, dessert, wine (good wine), mineral water, coffee and a pass at the amazing cheese cart for 300 ff per person...which is less than a midrange business lunch tends to cost in NYC.

        A la carte, meals at Astor tend to cost three times as much -- and are worth it.

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          Fred Apr 9, 2001 07:29 PM

          Does anyone have recommendations for a 3-star restaurants that "blows away" anything in New York? I have a friend going in June who is interested. Thanks.

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            Michael Stacey Apr 13, 2001 09:45 PM

            The only three star I've been to in Paris was Taillevent. I was there only for one meal, so perhaps my recommendation isn't exactly fool proof. I was there last april for lunch and decided on Taillevent after extensive research. The meal could only be described as perfect. Prices came to 1552 fr. for two people (and I don't drink.) In answer to your question, the meal there blew away meals I've had at (Daniel, Jean-Georges or ADNY). The place is considerably cheaper than ADNY, but it ain't exactly cheap. Still, If I only had one meal in Paris. (And 1500 francs burning a hole in my wallet.) Taillevent would certainly be the place to do it.

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              AGM/Cape Cod Apr 14, 2001 05:04 PM

              Thanks Michael. After extensive research, I also selected Taillevent for our last night in Paris this July. I have been nervous about my choice but not any more.

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          ivan stoler Apr 5, 2001 03:09 PM

          Off the Etoile/arc by "place ternes" is Guy Savoy (2 star?). His bistro is right across the street from the main operation. That neighborhood has fair amount of places. There is also a decent upscale belgquie restaurant around the corner from Guy. I suggest getting the Michelin guide on a palm/visor.

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            k Apr 8, 2001 09:15 PM

            How can I download the Guide Michelin to my visor? HELP!

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              Gregg May 16, 2001 05:46 PM

              go here to purchase:
              http://www.tomtom.com

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        Rick R Apr 4, 2001 07:48 AM

        We just returned from Paris. We had lunch at Taillevant,(off the fixed menu) and while good, not great, was not worth $225.00.
        Chez Pauline in the first was wonderful and under $100 for 2.
        Restaurant Palace Royal, felt like and tasted like any American restaurant.

        Most of the time we just walked, until we saw a restaurant full of people and ate there. We were never disappointed, using this method.

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          Caitlin Wheeler Apr 4, 2001 03:23 PM

          It is pretty much impossible to dine in a three star restaurant for under $100 per person, but there are many one stars that are fine dining experiences without breaking the bank. When I was in Paris last summer, we ate at the Relais Alexandre XIII in the 6th arondissement, and it was lovely and reasonable. My parents (who were there last weekend) also heartily endorse La Truffiere in the 5th. I like La Flambee in the 12th, and the Cafe Marly in the Louvre. I would suggest wandering around the 5th and 6th arondissements and looking for bistros that look good!

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            Paula Sindberg Apr 5, 2001 04:36 AM

            I've used this book and her "Food Lovers Guide to France" to good effect over the years. And it steers you to markets, butchers, cheese specialists, etc. The Paris book is divided by arrondisement (which for someone not clued to that - and I'm not) is a little confusing. Nevertheless, her explanations are good and pretty accurate. Of course, the "just walk around and find a crowded restaurant" method usually works, too - but can lead to long waits or disappointments when you can't get in (and lots of shoe leather as you walk from restaurant to restaurant trying to get in - sounds a bit like the Christmas Story, doesn't it?).

            Also, get a good guide to Paris with detailed street maps showing the Metro stops. With that and a Metro map even those unfamiliar with Paris and non-French speaking (me!) can get around easily.

            Good eating,
            Paula

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              joan Apr 11, 2001 02:20 PM

              Just returned from France, including a week in Paris, on Apr. 5. We had heard of a fairly new place called Astrance, on rue Beethoven, off Av. President Wilson. However,when we called (March 29) for reservations, we found they were booked for dinner through April, and for lunch through Apr. 12. The chefs were formerly with Arpege, and we heard of it through a review in the Wall St. Jl.
              We did have an excellent meal, beautifully served, at Helene Darroze, at 4 rue D'Assas, not far from Luxembourg Gardens, in either the 5th or 6th. Nearest metro is Sevres-Babylone. We originally opted for the salon (cheaper), but it's mostly tapas, with 1 or 2 plats, and one of us has a limited range of preferences, so we went upstairs. The bill for 2 came to 730 ff, and we left more because of the wonderful service. I should add that due to dietary restrictions, we didn't have wine, which would have brought the cost up, but at 7 ff to the $, the bill was bearable.
              We stayed at a studio apt on the Seine, near Pont Neuf, and our last night there, had dinner at Christine restaurant, or relais Christine, on rue Christine, which is 2 blocks off the quai between rue Dauphine and r. des Grands Augustins. It was a lovely warm and friendly place, good food; only sorry we didn't have time to go again.

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                Dave in London Apr 13, 2001 08:59 AM

                My advice to anyone seeking advice where to eat in France is follow the Michelin Guide....Move up or down the scale from the two knives and forks symbol according to how much money youve got and you cant go wrong.
                Unless you are going to the top of the scale (Michelin starred establishments) dont book before youre trip, wait till you get there.Go and find some of these addresses and if they appeal to your eye make your booking there and then in person. If you want to eat on spec, ARRIVE EARLY. ie. 12noon or 7pm.
                My personal recommendations are from the 1st and
                2nd arrondisments..(nice and central)
                Gallopin:2knives and forks (19th century decor)
                Vaudeville:2 knives and forks(brasserie style decor)
                Au Pied de Cochon:2 knives/forks ,open 24hrs!!!!
                La Fontaine Gaillon:3 knives/forks,(eat outsideif nice)
                All of these places offer a variety of good food.
                Finally a word to the request of a download for a palm top....buy the red Michelin Guide book.Not only does it list all Michelin restuarants and prices, it also has lists according to such parameters as ratings, decor styles, food specialities and even those serving food for under 100F.Carrying the red book with you when you visit seems a bit cheesy but you will be sure that they know you mean business!!!!!
                I present my waistline in support of these recomendations.

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                  Lauren Apr 18, 2001 04:03 PM

                  We've had two fantastic meals at Lucas Carton. Very expensive, can't remember how many stars. Get the lobster with the vanilla sauce.

                  I would also highly recommend Le Violon d'Ingres and Gaya Rive Gauche, both in the 7th Arr. but very close to the 6th.

                  Also - the Gault Millau guide is very helpful. It is a little out of date - I do not think they've updated it since maybe 1997. And I just checked Amazon and they said it is out of stock. If you can get your hands on one, I think it is the best guide to Paris restaurants.

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                    Benji May 15, 2001 01:19 PM

                    When you get over to Paris, and if you have any knowledge of basic French, go to one of the bookstores and try to find a book called Le Pudlo Gourmand. This gives some incredible recommendations of restaurants around Paris by Arrondisemont. In fact in many restaurant windows, you will see an award sign if the restaurant has received one. It's definitely a great resource and in many ways steers you to local restaurants that don't cater too much to foreigners.

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