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<topic>
  <id>259455</id>
  <title>Florence</title>
  <published_at>Sun Feb 14 00:19:13 -0800 1999</published_at>
  <post_count>11</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>26</id>
    <name>International</name>
  </board>
  <posts>
    <post>
      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>1371671</id>
        <content>Any suggestions for good eats in Florence or Venice?  
I'll be there next month.
</content>
        <published_at>Sun Feb 14 00:19:13 -0800 1999</published_at>
        <parent_id></parent_id>
        <user>
          <id>0</id>
          <name>Allison</name>
        </user>
      </post>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1371672</id>
      <content>in florence   dinner at cibreo, lunch at cambi.   in venice hit da fiore, and al covo.  the names are endless how long are you going to be in each city?</content>
      <published_at>Sun Feb 14 02:09:17 -0800 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1371671</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>stephen kaye</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1371673</id>
      <content>We'll spend 5 nights in Florence, 2 or so in Venice -- 
so any foodie info is welcome!
</content>
      <published_at>Mon Feb 15 00:08:19 -0800 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1371672</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Allison</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>1371675</id>
      <content>try some of our favorites, we go to Italy almost every year for 2-3 weeks.  florence along with cibreo, alle murate, la baraonda,,osteria benci, bibe just outside of town,  for lunches belle donne, cambi(outstanding tripe), za za, da ruggero,  cnatinetta verranzano,   for ice cream   we like badiani and carabe  your concierge can make reservations for you.   in venice da fiore and al covo are a must.    the chef and wife team from al covo, we just here in nyc last month, did a wine and food tasting at the 4 seasons, it was great!!  are you  going anywhere else in italy?? </content>
      <published_at>Tue Feb 16 10:15:57 -0800 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1371673</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>stephen kaye</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>1371676</id>
      <content>Alison,
 
Folks have steered you well (and know more than me) 
re: Florence.  In Venice, do try to go to La Furatola 
if you like peasanty seafood/pasta dishes.  No fowl or 
red meat here, just perfectly fresh fish, beautifully 
(and assertively seasoned), mostly with pasta.  The 
regulars there treat it like a Greek diner, and I only 
wished *I* had a neighborhood restaurant this 
brilliant and reliable. Cheap and charming (if you 
like sardines, try the appetizer).</content>
      <published_at>Tue Feb 16 15:23:47 -0800 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1371673</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Dave Feldman</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>1371678</id>
      <content>I posted a rather long description 
of the places we ate at in 
Venice..scroll down or use the link 
(if I can get it to work)... For 
Florence, visit
 
www.terraditoscana.com
 
for a Florentine's insight on food. 
Carlo, the web master, is very 
friendly and spent a couple of 
hours with us last fall, walking 
through a residential area away 
from the city center and showing 
us the food he likes to eat. Drop 
him an email from the site.


Link: http://www.chowhound.com/topics/show/259446#1371635</content>
      <published_at>Wed Feb 17 19:14:19 -0800 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1371673</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Jim Dixon</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>1371713</id>
      <content>In addition to all of the good recommendations already 
provided on this string, I'll add just a few.  Prior 
to going to Florence, I got a lot of good information 
from the Feb. 28, 1995 issue of Wine Spectator.  One 
of the best bits of information from this issue led me 
to the Mercato Centrale (Central Market) at Piazza di 
San Lorenzo.  Within this market is Perini, an 
absolutely wonderful place for sausages, cheeses, and 
all sorts of prepared foods.  The shopkeepers behind 
the counter were warm, gracious, and friendly, and 
provided me with generous "samples" of almost 
everything in the place.  "Here, here," they would 
say, "try this, very delicious, you will like."  An 
inevitably, I did like.  Wild boar salami; a long, 
fat, soft sausage called briciolana casalinga; a white 
truffle spread; explanations about the various types, 
grades, and quality of prosciutto; and on and on.  I 
was in heaven!!  My wife and I had many happy tastes 
from our purchases here.  On the way out of Mercato 
Centrale I passed by a stand with a whole roasted pig, 
from which was being cut thicks slabs of juicy meat, 
served between pieces of country bread.  Now how could 
a chowhound pass this up??  It was just a wonderful as 
it sounds.  Another of my favorite experiences in 
Florence was a lunch at Cantinetta Antinori, located 
at Piazza degli Antinori, 3.  Owned by the wine 
family, all current and recent vintages of Antinori 
wines are available here by the glass.  This trattoria 
also serves very well prepared traditional Tuscan 
dishes.  I can still taste the pappa al pomodoro--the 
taste of the tomatoes was pure, intense, and 
unbelievable.  Aaahhhh, thank God for memory.  The 
addition of a glass of Solaia or Tignanello doesn't do 
any harm either, even though the recent vintages they 
serve need more age.       </content>
      <published_at>Sat Mar 20 15:34:35 -0800 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1371673</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Tom Armitage</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>1371718</id>
      <content>I can second the recommendation for Cantinetta
Antinori.  I had a wonderful meal there, and excellent
wine.  It is a little expensive, though.  Reservations
are an absolute must.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Mar 23 15:00:28 -0800 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1371713</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Josh Mittleman</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1371674</id>
      <content>I posted several recommendations for Florence after I
went there last year; see the link below.  I concur
with the recommendation for Cibreo, but unless you want
very elegant dining, make sure you go to the second
room, on the other side of the kitchen.  Same food at
half the price.

Link: http://www.chowhound.com/topics/show/259414#1371538</content>
      <published_at>Mon Feb 15 15:50:00 -0800 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1371672</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Josh Mittleman</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1371715</id>
      <content>     My most delicious memories of Florence are of 
meals at Alessi's eating club.  Reportedly, Alessi 
used to run a fancy restaurant.  Now he serves great 
food to Florentine chowhounds. You must pay a modest 
membership fee to join, but then you are free to order 
the most authentic Florentine food at amazingly low 
prices, in the company of Florentines -- no easy trick 
in this touristed small city heavily populated by 
American students. 
 
English is not strong here, and the menu is more 
complicated to read than in most trattorie, because 
Alessi includes so many details about the dishes, and 
even their history.  I have eaten most successfully  
by asking Alessi to feed me as he sees fit ("Vorrei 
mangiare mentre lo consigliate" is my rough Italian 
for this request.)  
 
Trattoria Alessi. Via di Mezzo 24R. Florence. (No sign 
- just look for the frosted glass door, walk in and 
join the club.) Arrive early to be sure of seating: 
12:30 for lunch, 7:30 for dinner.

Link: http://www.mangiafirenze.com/code/alessi.html

Image: http://www.mangiafirenze.com/graphics/alessi.jpg</content>
      <published_at>Sun Mar 21 23:42:50 -0800 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1371672</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Howard August</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1371677</id>
      <content>You have had some excellent selections for restaurants 
in Florence and Venice. While in Florence consider 
taking a short drive outside the city to go to La 
Tenda Rosso in San Casciano in Val di Pesa. You'll 
need a reservation here so ask the hotel to make one 
for you. A must for excellent gelato is Vivoli in 
Florence. If your budget will allow it, Enoteca 
Pinchiorri is a real experience. This restaurant is 
really big bucks so check the price range before you 
go. The wine list here is a mind blower!
 
In Venice take lunch or a light snack at the veranda 
of the Gritti Palace Hotel. Sitting there and enjoying 
the activity and views of the Grand Canal should not 
be missed. Food's good too but expensive. Harry's Bar, 
while a touristy place, still has excellent food. Da 
Fiori is usually a tough reservation so call well in 
advance to make certain to enjoy this marvelous 
restaurant. </content>
      <published_at>Wed Feb 17 00:01:44 -0800 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1371671</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Peter C. Palmieri</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1371686</id>
      <content>Three years ago I was in Florence and my boyfriend and 
I found this restaurant that was a one woman show.  
It's called "Maximillian" not far from the Duomo.  The 
owner is the waitress, busboy, chef, etc.  The eating 
experience is not a hurried one, but rather a show and 
a very good one at that.
 
Highly recommended and if all the tables are occupied 
when you get there, the owner will probably turn you 
away.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Feb 25 16:12:20 -0800 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1371671</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Monica Betancourt</name>
      </user>
    </post>
  </posts>
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