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yoyoma Jan 15, 2006 07:50 PM

im going to be in NY in march for the lone reason of trying out pizza joints.

please list your favs.

i've heard di fara, lombardi's, john's and grimaldi's are definitely worth a try. any others that cant be missed i have 5 days to complete this tour of ny pizza.
please help.


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    racer x Jan 20, 2007 11:15 PM

    1. Nick's in Forest Hills, Queens (amazing salads too)
    2. Grimaldi's in DUMBO Brooklyn
    3. Luzzo's in East Village (1st Ave between 12th & 13th)
    4. Lombardi's
    in that order

    This is a rating in terms of the taste of the food alone, based on the best pizzas I ever had at each place (considering that some places are less consistent than others). (Just so you know where I'm coming from, I'm a sucker for fragrant sausage pizza with fresh basil.)

    Haven't been to DiFara's or Totonno's as yet, so can't comment on them.

    If how long you have to wait on a Saturday night, noise level, how comfortable you feel (eg, squished in like a sardine?), I would re-rank them: Luzzo's, Nick's, Lombardi's, and avoid-Grimaldi's-like the plague.

    Places you'll never find me in again: Otto's, John's of Bleecker Street.

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    1. re: racer x
      racer x Jan 28, 2007 01:24 PM

      Made my first trip to DiFara's on Friday evening. The care the maestro takes in crafting each pie (shredding the cheese just seconds before it will be used, for example) is really quite admirable. It's a fine place for a local pizzeria. But in terms of taste, definitely not in my top 10. I think I only had to wait about 90 minutes (Fool that I was, I didn't check my watch when I arrived because there were only 11 customers already in there, 9 of whom had already ordered.)

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      Sweatshirt Guy Jan 15, 2007 10:37 PM

      Sal and Carmine's is the best pie in Manhattan when it is on. Joe's has not been good in awhile. A few years back it was a slice of heaven.

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        Michael Ambrosio Jan 15, 2007 01:55 PM

        Strong agreement with the above poster about Joe's on Bleeker.

        1. jbyoga Jan 12, 2007 03:19 PM

          I'm a bit fan of Joe's on 6th at Bleeker....yummm

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            sweetTEA Jan 1, 2007 12:18 PM

            time out new york did a huge review of nyc pizza in detail a few weeks ago, you can probably order a copy (in early december 2006)
            my favorite spot is franny's in brooklyn. fabulous thin crust pizza with local ingredients. it is right off the 2/3 trainon flatbush ave- the bergen st. stop.

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              fara Dec 29, 2006 11:52 PM

              Una Pizza Napoletana, best pizza in the world.

              search for other posts to confirm.

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                tpigeon Dec 28, 2006 02:12 PM

                You should have tried the squares. They are better.

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                  JMZ Dec 28, 2006 09:39 AM

                  Just tried DiFaras yesterday. Waited 40 minutes for 3 slices...most enjoyable 40 minute wait my very impatient self ever had. Really enjoyed watching Domenico De Marco work his craft. Everyone watching in line (a line that stretched out on the sidewalk) seemed to be enjoying the wait also. Never had a Pizza with such fresh ingredients. Sauce and fresh Mozzarella and oil were fantastic. Crust slightly charred.
                  My Top Five
                  1.DiFara and Totonos(tie) Brooklyn
                  2. Sallys in New Haven
                  3. Patsys under the Brooklyn Bridge
                  4. DeLorenzos Trenton (Hudson Street)

                  yesterdays lunch was DiFaras and my dinner was in Forrest Hills at Nicks...nice quinella.

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                  1. re: JMZ
                    jen kalb Dec 28, 2006 02:35 PM

                    We were required to go to Patsy Grimaldis under the Brooklyn Bridge on Christmas Eve since we had traditionally gone there. Well, the red pizza was soggy - no sauce concentration or flavor - and the white pizza on top of a decent crust was just a rather thick later of melted mozz and garlic. Its still a nice atmosphere, but its actually been years since weve had a really good pizza there, and this was the last nail in the coffin .

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                    donpietro Sep 10, 2006 06:56 PM

                    NJ pizza: Brooklyn Brick Oven Pizza in Hackensack
                    Best in the area hands down!
                    It's a must try if you are willing to cross the Hudson.

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                      JaneST Sep 6, 2006 10:15 PM

                      Otto - not typical, but fabulous.

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                        YoungHood Sep 4, 2006 06:45 AM

                        Difaras is def. the hands down best in NYC, no question. As for manhattan the best is Sal and Carmines between 101 and 102 on Broadway in the UWS, the wait is somewha less then at difaras but sal and carmine are considerably nastier then Dom. Believe me when I say I am an expert on the subject, if you would like my credentials you can contact me yourself. Take my advice and you will not be dissapointed. Oh and all the commonly named places are overated particularly Grimaldis and Johns. Of course I suppose if you are not a New Yorker any of them will do.

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                        1. re: YoungHood
                          Dave Feldman Sep 7, 2006 03:43 AM

                          Sal and Carmine nasty? Ah, c'mon -- they're pussycats, especially when they're not working together. It's a great slice place, but I still prefer Patsy's in East Harlem, Totonno's in Coney Island, and of course, DiFara's.

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                            YoungHood Sep 9, 2006 03:18 PM

                            Yeah i guess your right they are good guys once you get to know them, but to the unfamilar and midwesterners used to down home charm the could come off rather gruff.

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                          davey212 Aug 25, 2006 02:42 AM


                          1. bigmackdaddy Jul 31, 2006 05:00 AM

                            I remember Nick's in Manhattan not being bad at all. Of course I haven't been there in a quite awhile. I also like Ray's on W.11th and Ave. of Americas. These are strictly the non-gourmet pizza shops.

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                              hereandthere123 Jul 21, 2006 08:38 PM

                              If you come to NJ, drive down to Somerset (right off of exit 10 on Rt. 287) for Vinnie and Sons for a Sicilian pie. You won't regret it. Best crust ever for the thick stuff. Their spinach and eggplant rolls are great, too! There's also a bit of a floor show from the owners and waitstaff, especially during a soccer game.

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                                wrathofcannes Jul 21, 2006 04:28 PM

                                Lombardi's Fresh Clam Pizza. To die for!

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                                  Pan Jul 23, 2006 07:24 AM

                                  Have you tried Arturo's clam pizza? When I had it (admittedly probably almost a year and a half ago), I thought it was like great clam sauce on a pizza. I had been to Lombardi's (for the third and final time) a few months before that and found the clam pizza dessicated and pathetic. Please describe the clam pizza you've had at Lombardi's. Have they improved recently, after what seemed to me to be a steady downturn?

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                                  Rahool Jul 20, 2006 10:31 PM

                                  DiFara's in Brooklyn is actually the best pizza in the world. It's hard to imagine anything ever coming close. Each pizza is made one at a time by a true genius. Nothing crazy, Totally Simple. Delicious and Amazing.

                                  1. bigmackdaddy Jul 18, 2006 11:57 PM

                                    Lenny's on 5th Avenue between 16th Street and Prospec Avenue in Brooklyn.

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                                    1. re: bigmackdaddy
                                      Peter Cuce Jul 21, 2006 06:55 PM

                                      You're joking, right? It's good for Park Slope, but that's not saying a whole lot.

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                                        bigmackdaddy Jul 31, 2006 04:59 AM

                                        Tell me what you suggest then. I am open.

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                                      meatfan Jun 29, 2006 05:55 PM

                                      If you head out to Long Island - Umberto's in New Hyde Park has the best sicilian pizza. They have a few new locations scattered throughout Long Island but the original is still the best- I've recently relocated to California and everytime I go back I freeze a couple of pies and bring them back with me...They even ship cross country a little costly but worth it if you want good pizza

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                                        mstatt54 Jun 29, 2006 04:32 PM

                                        Bleecker Street Pizza is the only place you need to go. Voted by NY Post as NYC's "best pizza."

                                        1. ericalloyd Jun 28, 2006 10:29 AM

                                          louie & ernie's in the pelham bay section of the bronx does great pizza by the slice
                                          1300 Crosby Ave
                                          718 829-6230


                                          1. Nuray Jun 28, 2006 04:16 AM

                                            Arturo's on Houston St, Di Farra in Brooklyn are both great. But hands down the best for me is Lazarra's at the Garment District. It is great for lunch but always have to wait a little.... Esp the eggplant pizza is my favourite there...

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                                              ChowhoundSucks Jun 26, 2006 02:50 AM

                                              I like Grimaldi's


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                                                h0mi Apr 25, 2006 08:21 PM

                                                How about in the bronx? Any suggestions?

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                                                  Sam Feb 27, 2006 01:52 PM

                                                  I live in Thailand. I have just come back from New York. I have tried Di Fara in Brooklyn. You know? It is the best pizza in my life. I can die happily after taking the Di Fara's pizza. You must try it.

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                                                    Bronx Bill Feb 4, 2006 05:16 PM

                                                    If you get to the Bronx,
                                                    don't miss Coals. Grilled to perfection.

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                                                      Adam Holland Feb 1, 2006 04:13 PM

                                                      Totono's (Neptune Ave. in Coney Island) and DiFara's (Ave. J in Midwood) are the best in Brooklyn and in NYC in general. In Manhattan, I like V & J on Amsterdam Ave. in Morningside Heights opposite the Cathedral of St. John the Divine, although it's not a classic Italian style pizza. It's a real good Italian-American style pie!

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                                                      1. re: Adam Holland
                                                        MikeG May 15, 2006 11:26 AM

                                                        V & T, not V & J; and yes, I agree. It's not thin crust, but it's very good and contrary to what a lot of (recent arrivals?) claim, it is very New York.

                                                        It's not a slice place though, and ordering a small is a very big mistake most of the time - they're rarely as good as the larger pies.

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                                                        Michael K. Jan 21, 2006 08:37 PM

                                                        Patsy's in Spanish Harlem, and Two Boots to go are my picks.
                                                        Patsys in Brooklyn I did not like at all, Johns in the village has little flavor. Arturo's is not that exciting. Many people think Totono's in Coney Island is the best but I feel like Johns it lacks flavor due to a flavorless fresh Mozz..Vinnies on the upper West side gets rated highly by many and I can not understand why it is even mentioned. Da Baffeto in Rome has a ton of flavor and a crisp crust that blows away any wood or coal fired pizza I've had in NYC. Also Vincents Pizza Park in Pittsburgh which I learned about from this site , I like better than any NYC pizza . Pizzeria Bianco in Phoenix is called the best pizza in the country by Ed Levine and I think it is extremely overrated with the exception of their Roja which has no sauce, red onion,Paregano Reggiano,crushed pistachios and rosemary-it has a very nice flavor profile! but still nowhere near the best in the country. Pepe's in New Haven is very good and probably better than any NYC pizza, I have never had Lombardi's or DiFarro's and plan to try them -especially Di Farro's. Many people feel that the only way to experience true New York pizza is to order a whole pie but I disagree. To me the reheating of the slice crisps it to a point that it never achieves in the first baking and is part of the character of what New York pizza is all about-it's street food!. I prefer Patsy's in Spanish Harlem buy the slice rather than the whole pie, assuming that the reheated slice is fresh.

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                                                        1. re: Michael K.
                                                          Odelay101 Jan 12, 2007 03:15 PM

                                                          Da Baffeto is AWESOME!!

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                                                            Pan Jan 15, 2007 02:54 AM

                                                            OK, but we're not in Rome.

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                                                          devil Jan 21, 2006 12:47 PM

                                                          It seems to me that most people like the thin crust pizza, but there is also the normal crust pizza as well.


                                                          Angelo's - Arturo's - John's - Ben's - Pizza by the Inch

                                                          And, honorable mention to the pizza place at the corner of 37th and Eight Avenue for being open 24/7.

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                                                            Bingo Jan 16, 2006 08:59 PM

                                                            Patsy's on 1st ave between 117th and 118th.

                                                            Up in The Bronx, Full Moon Pizzeria
                                                            600 E 187 St 718.584.3451

                                                            That's in the Little Italy section near The Bronx Zoo, on the corner of Arthur ave and 187th st.

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                                                              Dave Feldman Jan 15, 2006 11:22 PM

                                                              Some other obvious must-do's are Patsy's on 1st Ave. in Harlem, Una Pizza Napoletana in the East Village, Nick's in Queens, and some of the stars of Staten Island (a post on the Outer Boroughs might help with this) -- to my shame, I have no personal experience with S.I. pizza. You should also definitely read the blog linked below -- plenty of suggestions

                                                              Link: http://www.sliceny.com/

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                                                              1. re: Dave Feldman
                                                                ChowFun (derek) Jan 16, 2006 04:48 AM

                                                                I'll second DiFara's, and Patsy's...and add Totonnos in Coney Island (you can take the "Q" train to both DiFara's and Totonno's!

                                                                1. re: ChowFun (derek)
                                                                  Summerfield Jan 17, 2006 02:34 PM

                                                                  Concerning NYC pizza: Do you guys know of any place that would, say, FedEx a pizza or two to me, here in Michigan?

                                                                  1. re: Summerfield
                                                                    yalechk Jan 20, 2006 04:22 PM

                                                                    I am pretty sure Lombardis will. there are other places in ny if you google this topic, but try Lombardi's first--it's excellent

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                                                                      Summerfield Jan 23, 2006 03:37 PM

                                                                      Thanks. I tried Lombardi's but they said "no". I wanted to jump through cyberspace at him but I restrained myself. I'm going to work through the map at Sliceny.com. God, this is terrible.

                                                                2. re: Dave Feldman
                                                                  yoyoma Jan 16, 2006 08:09 PM

                                                                  thanks for the slice link. that site is OG.

                                                                  1. re: Dave Feldman
                                                                    otrphilly Feb 4, 2006 02:05 PM

                                                                    If ever in Philly, Pietro's (Rittenhouse & South Street)is the same as Patsy's. Same menu & family

                                                                    1. re: Dave Feldman
                                                                      Michael Scott Mar 1, 2006 02:17 PM

                                                                      Definitely Sbarro. I never miss it when I get to NYC.

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                                                                        Rebecca Jun 21, 2006 01:07 PM

                                                                        Hilarious! Am going to NYC tomorrow and that is the running joke....

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