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Oct 19, 1999 11:55 AM

Hot Dogs

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With the world series coming up (and the Mets trying to beat the Braves) I am sure many a frank will be consumed... the question is, what are the Chowhound approved brands to cook at home?

I used to be of the opinion that only kosher will do, but over the last few years I really like Nathans brand -- but only the ones with a natural casing and curved hot dog shape, like they prepare in their restaurants (Nathans also has the best french fries of ANY fast food chain, IMHO) . This goes for all premium hot dogs in my opinion.

Sabrett's are also really good -- but I dont know if they are worth the extra dollar or so per pack when compared with the Nathans. They have a somewhat garlickyier taste to them. I tend to buy Sabrett's when Nathans are not avaliable or if I know people coming over would be antsy about eating an unkosher hot dog. Personally I think Nathans should be honarary kosher -- they meet all the criterion for a top quality dog.

I havent bought Hebrew Nationals in a while.. I understand Boars Head ones are good too, but never had them.

Theres also the issue of preparation -- grilled or boiled?
I personally prefer grilled, but on the street you dont usually have the luxury.

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  1. all the dogs you mentioned are good, solid, servicable dogs. i'm particularly fond of the boar's head brand,
    but, and this is a big but...get the boar's head that are sold at a butchershop (sold individually), not in the supermarket (ten to a pack). there's a really big difference.
    it's funny you should mention dogs, i had this conversation just last night with some friends as we watched the yankee game, and i said something that bordered on sacrilege...i find that the dogs in new england (particularly connecticut and rhode island) are far, far, superior than those in new york. my finace is from connecticut and we spend our summer weekends there and in rhode island; while there i grill many dogs. there are some brand name dogs there that are not to be found in new york, such as: grote & wiegel,
    deutschmacher, hummel's and one or two others that i'm having a tough time remembering. these dogs are usually found at a supermarket deli counter (again, purchased individually) and they are just great. these dogs are made with quality meat (you can taste the quality), they are seasoned just right and the skins snap when you bite 'em. as i write about 'em it strikes me that i actually miss these dogs!!
    i know it sounds heretical, but people in new england really love their dogs, they take a kinda regional pride in their quality; quality dog stands are scattered throughout the area and the whole zeitgeist is just more dog-centric than in new york.
    take care.

    54 Replies
    1. re: fred t.

      Funny you should mention hot dogs from R.I. - the best hot dogs I ever had were from there - my ex-roomate's mother used to bring them over when she visited. They had no red food coloring in them & they came attached at the ends in chains like sausages. They were called Sauggies (I have no idea of the spelling, but they were pronounced "sawgies"). I haven't had them since at least the 80's, so I wonder if they're still being made.

      1. re: pam

        You can buy natural casing New England hot dogs (Deutschmacher, I believe is one of the brands sold) at the Stop and Shop supermarket (a Boston-based chain) in Cross County shopping center just north of Yonkers Raceway, off the Thruway. It's practically in the Bronx. These are, indeed great dogs, and if you gotta have 'em, its's worth the trip.

        1. re: Jon Wolfe
          Elizabeth Landino

          I now live in Sebastian, FL. and can't find a decent hot dog anywhere. We love Deutschmacher natural casing hot dogs. Can you suggest how we can get them in our Florida area.
          Thank you for any help you can offer.

        2. re: pam

          man, you guys are good!!

          yes pam, they still sell "sauggies" up in r.i. and they are still as good as you remember 'em. like most of the dogs you buy from a butcher or deli counter they come attached at the ends (they get twisted or tied at the ends as they come out of the sausage grinding machine and are packed 25 or 50 to a bag and are sold that way to retailers). the sauggies brand actually cost a little less than the dogs i mentioned (deutschmacher, hummel, grote and wiegel), hence some people tend not to think of 'em as a premium dog. i think they're great.
          and thanks for the info jon wolfe, "super shop and stop" is actually the store i shop in when i'm in r.i.
          i think it's the best supermarket chain i've ever shopped in and i was not aware there was one in the
          n.y. area.

          1. re: fred t.

            If you think Super Stop & Shop is the best grocery store, then you've never been to Wegman's. There's a brand new one in Princeton, the closest one to NYC so far.

            1. re: MU

              There was one in Rochester that was so huge we called it "Mega-Wegs."

              1. re: Susan Teitz

                >>There was one in Rochester that was so huge we called it "Mega->>Wegs."

                wow, really? I very fondly remember what were popularly called "Super Wegmans" from when I went to school up there (Univ. of Rochester) in the early 80's. A truly superior supermarket experience. What are MEGA Wegs like???

                1. re: Jim Leff

                  I think the fabulousness of Wegmans is partially because of competition with the differently fabulous Tops. They both grabbed a niche and ballooned madly within them.

                  Mega-Wegs: Sorta high-end, they do EVERYTHING, with an emphasis on super high quality and customer service. There's no specific aspect that makes them so amazing; it's more the combination of so many cool things. They have brick-oven bakeries, massive delis, really nice cheese & meat departments, their own high-quality product lines, beautiful local produce, enormous bulk food departments, kinda like health-food stores, but with plenty of regular stuff like candy, pickles, dog biscuits, staples like flour, sugar, oil. Always ready to hop on the latest food trend. They must have scouts all over NYC, because whenever I go I see what look like copies of really good products you can get here, like Amy's fennel-semolina golden raisin bread. Nice cafeterias right in the store, usually espresso, coffee (tends to be good) pasta bars, breakfast buffets, not horrible pizza. Also carry way more nonfood stuff than regular supermarkets. Where Pathmark might carry portable/disposable hibatchis, Wegmans will have three kinds of cheap grills, four higher-end ones, one or two gas grills, and refills for the propane canisters. I haven't been to the Princeton store yet, but sources tell me it's great. I have been to the ones in Corning, Ithaca, Syracuse, and the flagship store in Pittsford, which was ripped out of its strip mall and now occupies a big-box on the other side of the parking lot. Average stores are around 80-120,000 sf, which is why there aren't any of them close to NYC yet. There's one outside of Allentown, PA, which doesn't seem like it can attract the sort of clientele (prosperous suburbanites) that the other stores can, and its quality is clearly affected by inability to make its inventory turn over.

                  My knowledge of Tops is a little dated (it's probably been 5 years since I've been to one), but their niche has been international foods. They're about the same size as Wegmans, but are the only mainstream supermarket I've seen that caters to a diverse immigrant market. Probably a third of the store is taken up by imports from different countries, with Indian, Hispanic and Southeast Asian (pretty big populations in Western NY) taking up the most space. It would be suicide to try to compete on Wegmans' turf, so Tops grew in this direction from a pretty run-of-the-mill chain to a more interesting one.

                  BTW: Although I currently have no professional affiliation with Wegmans, in high school I was a cashier at the relatively teeny U of R store (the size of your local Key Food) -- we called it "Mini-Wegs." I could've carded you for that six of Genny.


                  1. re: MU

                    I guess the previous was a primer for the uninitiated. Jim, to answer your question, Mega-Wegs is Super Wegmans taken to an unimaginable extreme.

                    Oh, and they have okay takeout Chinese food, too.

                    1. re: MU

                      MU - do you think India House was around in the early eighties?

                      1. re: Tara
                        Joe Moryl (NY/NJ)


                        Joe here again. India House is one of my favorites. I think they got started around 1980 and they were originally in a house on Park Ave. near Oxford. They did nice cheap platters, warmed up in a microwave, for a few bucks, and sold a few basic Indian supplies. In a few years they moved to S. Clinton and had a real kitchen, etc. I think Raj of Raj Mahal was also associated with them at the start, but got his own place on Monroe.

                        Joe Moryl

                        1. re: Joe Moryl (NY/NJ)

                          guys, PLEASE start new threads for new discussions.

                          If you can't bear to break the thread, at least change the subject title (ala this one).

                          It's all in all our interests to ensure that discussions take place on the appropriate board and with at least a semi-applicable subject title.


                        2. re: Tara

                          Rochester Indian food is way,way better than NYC Indian. It hasn't been corrupted by a glut of crappy joints out to fool unsuspecting tourists. Raj Mahal is very consistently yummy.

                          India House on S. Clinton is also good (same owner, Tara?), and were still selling takeout from the grocery store in the 80s. They've now got two restaurants, sort of a typical tandoor-moghul place (per Howler's post), and a more informal vegetarian cafe across the street. This vegetarian cafe kicks the butt of ANY veg. Indian I've tried in the tri-state area, including those in JC and on Lexington Ave. Vatan and Madras Majal are depressingly lame in comparison. I've never had better dosai anywhere, as big as my forearm, ethereally crispy on the edges, completely ungreasy and complexly flavored potato/masala filling, unstintingly spicy. Everything else I've tried there is just as amazing. If you find yourself in Rochester, run, don't walk!

                          Jim/Bob: if you want to move this thread to the Upstate board, go ahead. But India House Cafe would win in the NYC category too.

                          1. re: MU

                            MU -

                            I have to agree with you about India House. It is one of the best Indian places, and certainly better than almost anywhere in NYC. Speaking of Rochester, how is Raj Mahal doing these days: I thought it was in a bit of a slump, but I havn't been there in years. A friend in Rochester also recommended a place in the Tops plaza on S. Clinton near Elmwood - ever been there?

                            Joe Moryl

                            1. re: Joe Moryl

                              Out of deference to folks' requests, re thread drift, I'm gonna reply in another thread. Look in the Upstate NY board.

                              1. re: MU

                                I've only been to Rochester about twice in the past 5 years, so I'm not so familiar with the place you mention, but I remember the Chinese place there (Silver Palace, or some such thing) being really good. Steamed fish w/black beans & ginger was my favorite thing there. They'd do either filets or whole fish.

                                1. re: MU

                                  Mu--I don't see how this new subject title will help the thousands of readers track the discussion any better


                              2. re: Joe Moryl
                                Sid aka "murdeshwar murda won"

                                Ayyoooooo jiggaz, wut da dilly yo, wut da deel yo? Aite yallz, I be a vegitirian and I got to nyu u kno what i say stern represant yall. Jigronix, let me tell all yall dat dis food be da bittombz, ya herd? I be indian, u know what I am sayin? So i is not knew to dis shiznitz and dis be mad goood yo.
                                Murdeshwar murda won

                              3. re: MU

                                Raj Mahal, site of my first waitressing job, has different owners from India House. I haven't eaten there in years, but the food was always quite good and it's frequented by lots of Indian families, so I imagine it's still good. There were always lots of things that Indians would order that weren't on the menu, and I would just write it phonetically and tell the kitchen guys, who would whip it right up. The menu is pretty generic - no dosai - but I think the bread there is better than the bread at India House. Aside from that, I agree, India House totally rocks.

                          2. re: MU

                            Jim wrote:

                            "I have been to the ones in Corning, Ithaca, Syracuse, and the flagship store in Pittsford."

                            Weird, never thought I'd see CORNING listed on Chowhound in any way! (That's where I grew up...)

                            1. re: MU

                              i am wondering if anyone has information on whether or not wegmans supports the usage of rBGH in any or all of the dairies they get their milk from.

                              1. re: KEL

                                I could swear that I saw people handing out flyers exhorting customers to boycott Wegman's milk for just this reason. That was about 3 years ago. Things may have changed.

                                1. re: Maria Eng

                                  They were PETA people - the same ones who put
                                  up that cruel billboard featuring Rudy Guliani
                                  with a milk mustache and the caption, "Got
                                  prostate cancer?" This milk paranoia is WAY out
                                  of hand.

                              2. re: MU

                                I live near Buffalo, NY and have visited all 11 area Wegmans stores, along with the 35 Tops stores here in the area, and several stores from both chains in Rochester, NY and Erie, PA. Without a doubt, Wegmans is definitely the best.

                                Right now, most of the stores are brand new to the Buffalo area, ranging from 90,000-125,000 sq.ft. and offer everything that anyone could imagine. The Market Cafe is definitely one of the best features. Lets can get Chinese, Pizza, Subs, Chicken Wings, Sushi, and there's the Chef's Case, all of which are really good. The Coffee Shop, although a little overpriced is good as well. The service is definitely top-notch and employees are willing to go the extra mile to please the customer. The Nature's Marketplace is another great feature and everything else in the store speaks for itself.

                                In my hometown, we do have the Mega-Wegs on Alberta Drive, which used to be a Chase-Pitkin store (owned by the same company) and a second opening this fall on Sheridan Drive, which will be the biggest of all the stores they have ever built at 130,000 sq. ft, and have the 2 floor cafe as well. It's replacing a smaller Wegmans store that was one of the original in my hometown on the same site.

                                Comparing Tops now, it is a good store, with a good selection, but I've noticed that the stores and service are on the decline in recent years. Their stores for the most part range from 75,000-110,000 sq.ft., but in a change of direction, they decided to build smaller to fit the neighborhood. The design of the stores aren't as good as they used to be. Since switching to the smaller format, it's totally nondescript and looks junkier. The same is true for the remodels they are doing as well. It has become harder to see good service. I don't know what happened. Several times lately also, I have noticed that the stores aren't as clean as they used to be as well. It's not uncommon to see garbage on the floor, and wrappers on sticky tables in the Carryout Cafe seating area. I really noticed this at the International store in Amherst, NY. The quality of the prepared foods are ok, but not as good as what you would find in Wegmans.

                                I would have to say for what Wegmans offers and the looks of the stores itself, Wegmans has definitely established itself in my opinion as the leader and trendsetter.

                                Now if we could have a Mega-Wegmans in Lockport, NY...

                                Does anyone know what that new buliding is connected to the Pittsford Wegmans?


                                1. re: MU
                                  JOHANN R. SEDLAK

                                  Wher can i find KIRK'S SOAP.PLEASE I WRITE HERE IN AUSTRIA.THANK YOU JOHANN

                                2. re: Jim Leff

                                  While in Florida we enjoy British style toaster muffins called crumpets. We buy them at Publix Supermarkets. We will be returning to Manalapan, NJ soon and would like to be able to buy them at your store there. Here are the particulars:
                                  Gourmet Baker brand from Multifoods, Minneapolis, MN 55402, Product of Canada.
                                  Love shopping at Wegman's and would really enjoy finding these crumpets there.

                                  1. re: Joan

                                    While I was attending college in Ithaca, I used to shop at Wegman's. Funny thing was, I too was looking for crumpets, which I found they didn't carry at the time. So I wrote a note asking if they can start carrying this item.

                                    I'm not sure if Danny actually read that note. All I know is that the next week, I found crumpets in the refrigerated isle :)

                              3. re: MU

                                you're right, never been to "wegman's". honestly, never even heard of it. but if it's better than "super stop and shop" it's gotta be good. unfortunately, for me, princeton's a bit of a haul for groceries.
                                i'm just fond of "s.s.a.s." cause it's so much better than what i'm used to here in n.y.c. (waldbaum's, key food, gristede's, d'agostino's, etc.).
                                and let me make it clear that i'm talkin' "supermarkets", not "grocery stores" or "deli's" or "specialty food shops". in those latter categories n.y.c. has the best (zabar's, balducci's, citarella. etc.)

                                1. re: MU
                                  Joe Moryl (NY/NJ)

                                  One comment: Bollocks!

                                  If you are a true chowhounder then the thought of a Wegman's only brings despair. It is mostly all show and very little substance. If you want bland agribusiness products posing as "gourmet" then you want Wegman's. If you want surburban sprawl, disinvestment in city centers and monolithic sameness then go to a Wegman's. Most small ethnic shops (and likely a lot of restaurants now) in upstate NY have been gutted by the likes of Wegman's.

                                  I come from upstate, and still spend a lot of time there. In fact I just bought some stuff in the Johnson City Wegmans this past weekend. Lets see: watery crap coffee from their new overpriced Seattle style coffee bar (apple fritter was o.k.). An assortment of salads and deli items proved to be very dull - any little mid-east place in NYC would likely kill this stuff. A french country style bread looked nice but proved to be just dull. I gave a pass on the pasturized and mass produced cheeses posing as somthing special and the IPB meat.
                                  They certainly have a wide assortment of dog food!

                                  Sure, it is better than many of the supermarkets here in NJ, but they are among the worst I've seen. Wegman's seems to have many vociferous defenders but I wish it would just go away.

                                  I do prefer Tops: better prices, less pretentions to gourmetness but some real ethnic stuff. In Rochester, Wegman's hometown, the suburban superstore orientation of Wegman's has left almost every inner-city neighborhood without any kind of decent store. It almost smacks of racism. Buffalo based Tops has not abandoned city neighborhoods with such fervor, either in Buffalo or Rochester. Figures the first Wegman's in these parts is in Princeton!

                                  Joe Moryl

                                  1. re: Joe Moryl (NY/NJ)

                                    The Johnson City Wegman's isn't the best, but it sure kicks the crap out of any supermarket in the NYC tri-state area.

                                    I happen to hail from a neighborhood in Rochester which had a mini-Weg until the mid-eighties, but it closed simply because not enough people shopped there. I know, because I used to shop there. The place was largely deserted. Yes, it was an african-american urban neighborhood, but the store which replaced that one is in an african-american suburb. The stores give out scholarships to employees, everyone gets health insurance and other benefits, and raises are frequent. They are not in any union, but their cashiers earn more than union cashier wage in NYC.

                                    Have you seen the episode of South Park where the underwear gnomes explain how rich corporations get rich from being good at what they do? I don't necessarily believe that to be true in every case (Gap? Bananna Republic?), but Wegman's is truly a superior store. The customer service is absolutely top-notch - they'll take things back without a question (which you should have done with that coffee), their prices are competitive, and their sales are great. Gallon of Berio olive oil for $6.99, eggs for $.49 two weeks ago in Princeton. Their international departments have really expanded and their organic and health food departments are superb. The stores are large, clean, well lit, never smelly. Things are fresh, produce is well labeled and local wherever possible, and the produce managers will cut things up for you if you want to taste them and tell you what to do with things you've never seen before (and there are always plenty of new, bizarre looking things). In season, there are clocks over the corn display telling you when the next shipment will come in, which happens many times each day.

                                    IMO, the bread has it all over Amy's. The organic seven grain sourdough sandwich bread is great. The baguette is crusty and wonderful and you can almost always get it hot. They put it in special bags which let out the steam out so it doesn't get soggy.

                                    The stores are all open 24 hours, and in the wee hours it is sheer delight to discover hot doughnuts, muffins, cookies, bread - you can even have them cook some fish you pick out or a lobster.

                                    Anything you want that they don't have? They'll stock it, just ask. My family came back from France with a list of cheeses they wanted, and voila. Cheeses which I couldn't find in NYC.

                                    I just can't imagine anyone thinking Tops is better. Bad lighting, poor layouts, lots of shrink-wrapped produce, general shabbiness.

                                    Anyway, Chowhound MU was weaned on Wegmans...I bet she still remembers how to bag as she goes, which is something NYC grocery stores haven't caught on to yet. I fantasize about mega-Weg whenever I stand in line at Dag's or A&P, as the cashier yells "I need the key!"

                                    1. re: Tara
                                      Joe Moryl (NY/NJ)


                                      I guess we just differ on what we want out of a supermarket. This being chowhound, I am judging Wegman's by foodie standards and sorry, I find it lacking. I'm not saying that Pathmark or whatever is as good either. But somthing like Fresh Fields (if I could only afford their stuff) would be my ideal, shorn of all the silly homoeopathic and other rubbish.

                                      On the return policy: I wanted a cup of coffee, not to bicker. I just won't patronize their little coffee stand again.

                                      Maybe you don't think the JC Wegman's is up to snuff, but it has just been expanded to be a mega store. It dosen't matter, because I lived in Rochester and still go to other places in upstate all the time. And I think the JC Wegman's is pretty par for the course.

                                      I base my gripes about Wegman's in the city on being a poor grad student living in the inner city without a car in the '80s. Without a car you are totally maginalized in certain neighborhoods, and Wegman's had a lot to do with that. I guess all those poor and elderly people just don't eat. They seemed to systematically run down their inner city stores (West Ave, Midtown, Mt. Hope) while forever expanding at Pittsford Plaza, Southtown, etc., so it is no wonder why no one patronized them.
                                      And perhaps you havn't been to a Tops recently but I don't see them as being quite that shabbby ( at least in Buffalo, which I visit frequently).

                                      I'm glad Wegman's is encouraging local produce - they do have some nice stuff in that area. Maybe they treat their employees well, but that isn't the line I get from a friend's teenage daughter, who currently works for them in Perinton.

                                      And if Wegman's has more French cheese than places in NYC, then you just don't know where to look.

                                      Sorry, it makes me mad to hear people glorifying somthing that has brought mostly blandness and inauthenticity to places I enjoyed living. RIP the quirky old food hall at the rear of Sibley's dept. store in downtown Rochester.

                                      Joe Moryl

                                      1. re: Joe Moryl (NY/NJ)

                                        It's true that in Rochester, Wegmans put Star Market and Bells out of business, and they seem to think it's a favor to the community to keep the Mt. Hope store open (which, since it's the closest market to U of R and some less prosperous 19th Ward areas, it is, actually). Some might argue that they are just tailoring the inventory in the store to the population. (Jiffy instant corn muffins were a huge seller at the Mt. Hope store. Imported cheese would probably sit and rot). You will usually find Wegmans in the same vicinity as Barnes & Noble or Borders, both of which could receive similar criticism. But I bet you've been to Barnes & Noble in the past month or two.

                                        As I recall, in the mid-80s Wegmans had a pretty decent store in Midtown Plaza, quite close to the nexus of most public transportation in Rochester. Much cheaper than the food counter at Sibleys, and very popular with inner city (read: lower income) types.

                                        Compare Wegmans to Stew Leonard's? No contest. Stew's (which I confess I find amusing in a 'viva Las Vegas' sort of way) is gimmicky, (dancing animatronic veggies??), not that cheap, and, via their layout, forces customers to go through every aisle of the store, which is a major issue with Veggie-friend, who objects to being forced to go past the meat aisle while being serenaded by happy animatronic cows.

                                        Wegman's, on the other hand, is no Balducci's, but could certainly give Balduccis' produce department a run for their money on both freshness and variety. They don't carry mega-high-end stuff (yet to see foie gras or Kobe beef there... seen any, Tara?), but they're certainly not Wal-Mart, underpricing the masses on crap. You could probably find every product Fresh Fields carries at a decent Wegman's, and cheaper.

                                        1. re: MU

                                          I have to admit, Wegman's sounds pretty good to me right now, especially after trying in vain to buy something for dinner last night at my local Key Food and leaving with nothing - the produce on their shelves is literally rotting. I wish Brooklyn had a Wegmans....

                                          1. re: Cathy

                                            Got to defend Danny Wegman....Yes, I found it unnerving that my old Syracuse neighborhood was a 15-minute drive from any major supermarket. But (to make up for this?) Wegman's gives back to the area--most produce and store-brand products are local, which gave me some much-needed appreciation for CNY. Is the Princeton store using Jersey resources?

                                          2. re: MU

                                            In fact, I have seen foie gras at Wegmans. Lovely pates, straight up as well as mousses and terrines, as well as the whole darn liver. Kobe beef I've never looked for. They always have a selection of organic, free range meats. They label such things "[meat] you can feel good about" or some other such fairly paradoxical phrase (says the former veggie in me). Also a nice smoked fish selection, although the bagels are, IMO, abominations. Might as well be Brueggers.

                                            1. re: MU

                                              Visited the Princeton Wegman's this weekend. Consistently great. As many free food samples as anyone could want, and their customer service has only improved since my last visit. My favorite touch: the small wooden self-serve fruit cart next to the cafe, with a little container hanging over it bearing the sign "Healthy snacks: deposit 25 cents. Fruit has been washed for your convenience." A standard assortment of bananas, pears, apples, plums, but on the honor system, no waiting!

                                              They have at least 3 models of shopping carts, small NYC style ones, big ones with an extra short shelf at the far end in case there's a kid in the seat or you just want to keep more small items separate, and the semi of carts: those same big ones, but with a bigger plastic seat (for bigger kids,or more than one) attached between the handle and the cart proper. Get out of the way! Other kid-friendly things: in-store daycare (drop off your kids, shop, pick them up), and parking spaces close to the door reserved for people with small children. Wow.

                                              Also more fresh wild mushrooms than I've seen at Fairway: lobster, chicken, hedgehog, blue-foot, more I haven't heard of (and black truffles at ~$199/lb sitting out in the open... how trusting!).

                                              Also saw a vegetable I'd never seen before, called 'osa' or 'oca' or something like that. Small bright-red roots, resembling cooked lobster tails, in a basket next to the potatoes. The produce guy didn't know where they were from, but obligingly broke one open and gave it to me, saying they were like a cross bet. sweet potatoes and regular ones. Pale orange rings around a pale pink center inside. Raw, they tasted more like a cross bet potatoes and starfruit, a sugary, faintly grape-y flavor, and crisp jicama-like texture. Didn't research cooking techniques, though. Anyone familiar with this?

                                        2. re: Joe Moryl (NY/NJ)

                                          "It is mostly all show and very little substance. If you want bland agribusiness products posing as "gourmet" then you want Wegman's."

                                          that describes the way I feel about Stew Leonard's. I just don't understand what all the fuss is about those stores.

                                          Y'know, it's too much to expect a big-biz supermarket chain to cater to the discerning. They're ALL pretty mainstream, with same old or same old a smidge better. And the really big stores just have more boxes of Cheerios in more sizes. I've not been to Tops (or to Wegman's in 15 years), but I think I may just have lower expectations than you. I'm delighted with finding minor pleasures in the corporate cracks when it comes to supermarkets.

                                          Sing along with the jingle: "NOBODY made a store just for me. NOBODY has my kind of quality"

                                        3. re: MU

                                          I live in Ohio & we do not have Wegman's...however, in two visits to Williamsport, PA in Oct 99 & Mar 2000, I have to applaud the Wegman people, the store, the cleanliness...everything about the place was very customer-friendly & nice to visit & shop there. My 2 friends from CT also felt the same way & we were all impressed & requested stores to be brought to our areas too!!!
                                          Maybe someone from Wegmans' should go around the country & teach other GroceryChain Giants, how to treat their customers!!

                                          1. re: MU

                                            Does Wegman's have an on-line site?

                                            1. re: Mick

                                              c'mon, mick, you can try harder than that! (g)


                                              1. re: Mick

                                                Just wanted to let you know that Super Stop & Shop is THE leader in the supermarket industry on the east coast...... They are innovative and talented at what they do..... hip hip hurray for Super Stop & Shop

                                                1. re: Mick

                                                  Wegman's has been the best supplied supermarket in all areas since it's beginning days in Rochester. However it is not only the best for groceries, it is also very well supplied with wonderful customer service practices. The folks who work at Wegman's are so courteous and considerate that you definitely miss it if you happen to have to shop anywhere else. They are also very good to their employees as far as benefits, including the opportunities given to student employees toward scholarships and other notariety.

                                                  My experience today, when getting out of my car, I inadvertantly locked my keys in the car. I notified the security guard at the store, he not only provided me with a wire hanger to try to open the door with, he manually assisted me in getting in. I don't think that I would have been able to manage to do it myself, due tot he kind of lock that it was. Thank you, Jimmy,from the Mt. Hope Store.

                                                  1. re: Catherine

                                                    I agree to some extent. My experience is with the Wegmans on Rte 1 ( Princeton , N.J. ). Their baked goods and some of their deli is good but their produce is only fair. I also shop at a local chain ( Mcafferties ) which is comparable to Wegmans but with better produce and some superior deli . Between the 2 things I get a pretty good selection.

                                                    1. re: Catherine

                                                      Wow, the Mt. Hope store. Is it still the smallest & least fancy of all the Wegmans' or have they upgraded it at all?

                                                      1. re: MU

                                                        Yep, the Mt. Hope store is still sits there and is still the smallest and least fanciest of all the Wegmans stores. And its 1 of the very few stores that is open only 7am-Midnight also.

                                                        1. re: MU

                                                          The Mt. Hope store is going to finally be expanded and remodeled to include more of the newer features found in a normal Wegmans. Now thats a first for that store.

                                                      2. re: Mick

                                                        is this the same supermarket that is in Allentown, PA??

                                                        1. re: Carm

                                                          Yes, although the Allentown store is kinda lame compared to, say, the Princeton store, or the one outside of Syracuse.

                                                          1. re: Carm

                                                            best supermarket in the world Pak n Save UPPER HUTT

                                                        2. re: MU
                                                          RHODA SIEGEL


                                                          1. re: MU
                                                            Bill Maloney

                                                            You;d probably consider me bought and paid for since I was born in Rochester and grew up with Wegmans - I'm even told a distant relative married into the Wegman family. But I love Wegmans. I've always believed that if Bloomingdale's grew up to become a grocery store it would be Wegmans. We live in Brooklyn and endure weekly trips to ShopRite and Key food, so Seneca Lake vacations give us an opportunity to visit the Geneva Wegmans. After cramped, smelly, primative NYC food retailing, Wegmans is almost a vacation destination itself. By the way, NYC locals pronounce it "Wedge-mans."

                                                            1. re: Bill Maloney

                                                              You could not be more correct about Wegman's. I grew up in Rochester and now live in Dayton, Ohio. My trips back to Roch. have to include a trip to the recently remodeled Pittsford Wegman's. If you're ever in New York State and can get to a Wegman's- do it. You won't be disappointed. I'm hoping they get the balls to come the Midwest to compete with the bland Kroger and Meijer. At least in Dayton we have Dorothy Lane Market- a great place for the size of the area, but still a Wegman's lite.

                                                            2. re: MU

                                                              I can't believe I'm reading about "Weggies"! went to school in binghamton, had the joy of paying through the nose for fresh produce, but the only other choices in time (Price Chopper and Giant) just didn't cut it. But I used to visit my friends in Ithaca . . . now that is a serious "Weggies."

                                                              all the discussion of wegman's not being good, or gourmet or whatnot, is besides the point, right? I mean, we're talking about supermarkets here . . . if we were talking about specialty food stores, or even sam's club type things, it'd be a different story (and an interesting thread I think) . . .

                                                              still amazed to be discussing wegman's on chowhounds . . it's great!

                                                            3. re: fred t.

                                                              Were can I order the sauggies hot dog and have them shipped to me in south carolina


                                                        3. I like "specials" a whole lot, they look like short very fat hot dogs. I think the real name might be "knockwurst" or something... I don't know what brand they are but the ones I buy in the Romanian butcher shop in Sunnyside (39th Street between Queens Blvd and 43rd Ave.) are very good. I like them boiled, with sauerkraut (which is also very good at that butcher shop). I never tried grilling them.

                                                          1. What has happenned to the board no post in a long time!!

                                                            1. One of the popular hot dog brands used at hot dog joints here is Grote & Weigle from Conn. Someone in a previous post mentioned New England hot dogs as being superior to New York. I live in N.J. and I think we have good, if not the best hot dogs. The Grote & Weigle brand are not available in supermarkets here, but are used at Texas Weiner II, Red Tower, Galloping Hill Inn, and others. It is a quality dog. Best Provisions makes the tastiest hot dog in my opinion. You can get them in supermarkets here, but the ones with natural casing, used by Syd's (the best jersey dog) among many others can be purchased only at the plant in Newark. Sabrett is also good, and made in East Rutherford N.J. Best hot dogs taste a little like Sabretts and Nathans; a little spicy, but better than these. This dog is excellent grilled, deep fried, or boiled.

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                                                              1. re: John Fox

                                                                I would like to try these hot dogs.
                                                                Where in Newark is the Best Provisions Plant.