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Where are the best HOT DOGS???

Aaron Jun 8, 2002 08:34 AM

A few years ago, I heard of a place, somewhere in the Hudson Valley, that served AUTHENTIC Chicago hot dogs....with the rolls even imported from Chicago! Does anyone know if this place still exists, and if so where exactly is it?

More importantly...where are the very best hot dogs in New York? I live in the Binghamton area but would travel anywhere north of NYC for a good hot dog!

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    M-L. RE: Aaron Jun 9, 2002 10:33 PM

    If you search this site, you'll find extensive opinion on hot dogs.

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      Val G RE: Aaron Jun 9, 2002 10:54 PM

      See the link below for a passionate discussion of hot dogs on the "What's My Craving" board.

      Link: http://www.chowhound.com/topics/show/...

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        ric RE: Val G Jun 10, 2002 04:11 PM

        Aaron, I was part of that "passionate" hot dog discussion in February, and even since those discussions (what- all of 4 months?) I have come to discover and love "The Chicago Hot Dog" as found in my neck-of-the-woods, Florida (sorry).
        Anyway, I seriously recommend you take some notes, especially from the "John Fox" posts, and you take a weekend scouting out a few hot dog stands in New Jersey. I am surprised that John hasn't already jumped in and suggested that himself!
        And if you do track down a great "Chicago" in New York state, please post it so I can keep it in mind on my next visit.

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          John Fox RE: ric Jun 12, 2002 08:55 AM

          Hello fellow hot dog lovers! I just got back from Penn. and while their dogs are ok; they can't compare to what is in the north Jersey area. I would definitely suggest a trip or a weekend here to sample the many fine hot dogs and type of hot dogs available. See some of my earlier posts. I've found it informative to taste dogs from different places side by side to determine which are better, or which you prefer. I sometimes go to places, bring home some dogs, and heat them up later. Or I get the dog raw, refrigerate them, and cook them on my griddle.

          A lot of dogs are equal in quality, but have a unique spicing. Tasted next to each other, you can see which you prefer. For all beef hot dogs; I love them with casing. Best's, Grote & Weigel, and Sabrett are all high quality. Each have a unique taste; Best's is a little less spicy/garlicky than the other 2. Recently I tried the three together and Sabrett's is definitely the spiciest. This dog is served grilled at Boulevard Drinks in Jersey City, Papaya King, Gray's Papaya, and Katz's in Manhatten.

          My favorites are Tommy's in Elizabeth for Italian Hot Dogs; Rutt's Hut for deep fried pork dogs (try their relish, it is the best and I don't usually get anything but mustard on my dogs unless I want a Texas Weiner); Boulevard Drinks, Father & Son, and Syd's for all beef natural casing grilled hot dogs (using the aforementioned Sabrett, Grote & Weigel, and Best brands respectively) Galloping Hill Inn or Max's for a less spicy beef and pork dog; Jerry's and Dees for boiled hot dogs; The Hot Grill and Libby's for Texas Weiners. For mail order, Usinger Angus Beef franks are the best dogs you can buy. If you need directions to any of these places, you can contact me.

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            the rogue RE: John Fox Jun 12, 2002 11:51 AM

            John- I have read your great hot dog posts... maybe you could put them all together into a complete and detailed writeup some time and repost as a whole. It is that season after all.

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              chuck RE: John Fox Jun 15, 2002 04:35 PM

              Hey John? Did you get a chance to have one of those really great Chicago Hot Dogs?

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                John Fox RE: chuck Jun 15, 2002 07:27 PM

                I think I'll pass on the Chicago Hot Dog. I drove about an hour and a half to this hot dog truck that used the vaunted Vienna beef and made a Chicago style dog. So much junk, you could barely taste the dog. Maybe they do it to disguise this dog. A limp, skinless, boiled, flavorless dog beneath a garden salad. Oh well; must be one of those things you have to acquire a taste for.

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                  davebough RE: John Fox Oct 2, 2007 06:05 AM

                  Thank you John! I have never been able to understand why they put so much crap on a Chicago style dog.

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          Hugh DeMann RE: Aaron Jun 11, 2002 03:42 PM

          My favorite hot dog is served at Hot Dog Johnnie's on Route 46 in Buttzville, NJ (about an hour from the George Washington Bridge).
          The total experience is great: long lines of patient customers, a pretty setting by a winding river, the original (1940's) stand still on display, and the best buttermilk in the world, served in chilled mugs.
          The hot dog itself is served on a steamed bun with chopped onion, mustard, and a pickle slice.
          If you like hot dogs, don't miss it.

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            Aaron RE: Aaron Jun 12, 2002 02:35 PM

            Only on ChowHound would I have a half dozen people answering a query about the best hot dogs in New York with locations in New Jersey!

            If I were willing to go to New Jersey, I would just as well go to NYC or Long Island. But I've been down there and, frankly (no bun intended), I have no plans to go back!

            Now to repeat the query - Where, ABOVE NYC, are the best hot dogs in NEW YORK???

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              blazee RE: Aaron Jun 12, 2002 03:29 PM

              In response to your quest for a good hot dog north of the NYC area, there's a place in Mamaroneck, Westchester County, called Walter's that is not to be missed. It's a little hut by the side of the road that looks like a pagoda. Lines stretch down the street at busy times, but it's worth the wait. I'm not sure the exact street address but it's across the street from the local high school. Hope this helps.

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                the rogue RE: blazee Jun 12, 2002 05:18 PM

                Walters is good for a one time thing but I wouldn't travel... Their dogs are so mild that they are almost boring and their relish mustard (the only allowed fixin') isn't anything much.

                Out of desperation I ate there about once a week for while when I was working in the area as a teen. Usually when the MAd Dog truck on Mamaroneck Ave wasn't open... too bad he is long gone. He had several varieties of dogs and about 10 types of onion sauces, pepper sauces, and chili's as well as a huge selection of mustards, relishes and ketchups... a mad dog had some of everything and was a total tasty mess guaranteed to melt your ear wax.

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                  suzanne RE: the rogue Jun 13, 2002 07:43 AM

                  Walters is on Palmer Avenue, for the person that asked where it was, but I would not waste my time, it used to be GREAT in the 60's and 70's ....but if you are going to be in Mamaroneck....crave pizza instead and go to Sals on Mamaroneck Ave..still great after all these years.

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                    scharffenberger RE: suzanne Oct 2, 2007 02:15 AM

                    I agree about Walters. The architecture is better than the food. It is nice that it has been around for so many decades, but the dogs are nothing to travel from Binghamton for.

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                Ric RE: Aaron Jun 14, 2002 12:13 AM

                OK,OK, so I shouldn't have mentioned New Jersey! (You are right and this Chowhound sends his apologies!)
                Nathan's has a big operation on Central Avenue in Yonkers. I've eaten there and enjoyed the food, but I am posting to see if others who know the place more "inimately" than I do would really recommend it as one of the best in NEW YORK.

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                  Ric RE: Ric Jun 14, 2002 12:38 AM

                  P.S., to Aaron: This is a case of "What goes around comes around" or poetic justice, or something. I thought you'd appreciate it, anyway.
                  On the Chowhounds' "South" website, I started asking about the "West Virginia Hot Dog," because what I know about them (the toppings), they are delicious. I really wanted more ideas and opinions from West Virginians. What did I get? You guessed it-- NEW JERSEY!!! Aaron, I know I was innocently part of the conspiracy on this thread, but I gotta tell ya, they're everywhere! So we just gotta grin and bear it, and in between, you may pick up some of the info you wanted about NY and on another site, I'll pick up the inside information about West Virginia! Please pass the mustard...

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                    Aaron RE: Ric Jun 18, 2002 05:37 PM

                    First, I do not mean to discourage posts about hot dogs in New Jersey. New Jersey is a fine state - the only place where I've ever seen hot dogs boiled in oil! (ughhh!) Anyway, keep posting those NJ hot dog tips, but not to the EXCLUSION of upstate NY locations!

                    Second, I did it! Last weekend, I drove to Buttzville, New Jersey to try Johnnie's hot dogs and buttermilk. The hot dogs were very good - I had them topped with mustard, relish, onions and pickle - but not special enough to be worth the trip (I drove 2.5 hours each way). I have never had buttermilk so I asked the gentleman behind the counter what it was - he answered that it was "like sour milk", which made me lose all interest in the stuff.

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                    the rogue RE: Ric Jun 14, 2002 01:06 AM

                    I live right down the road from Nathans in Yonkers and it isn't even in the running for good dogs. You can get better from the trucks in the area. Over cooked leathery dogs, cold saurkraut... yuch. It wasn't bad 20 years ago but...

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                      dogluvr RE: the rogue Oct 2, 2007 12:26 AM

                      Any really good small, simple, Hot Dog stands; other than stores and delis in the yonkers, Mt. Vernon, White Plains area?

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                        rich51 RE: dogluvr Feb 21, 2010 10:53 AM

                        don't go often as it is out of my way, but so dam hot in valhalla,usually serves a good dog,burger fries and wings, much better imho than little spot,actually very close to each other, and often overlooked.

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                      D_Train RE: Ric Jun 25, 2002 12:46 AM

                      Hands down the best dog in Westchester is at Walters on Palmer Ave. in Mamaroneck. No chili, no kraut, no onions, just a super mustard-relish. Good Fries and a decent black & white shake. It's only open for lunch and if you go on the weekend be prepared to wait on a LONG line, but it's worth it. MMMMmmmmmmmmm sooooooooo much butter!!!!

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                        the rogue RE: D_Train Jun 25, 2002 01:08 AM

                        Walters is boring. The dogs are a bland pork, veal, beef combo that is totally flavorless. The only flavor they have is if you order them well done so they get a bit caramelized. The relish mustard is sweet but with no character, it's hard to tell that it actually has mustard seeds in it. The "famous" milkshakes are watery and without much flavor. The people who wait in line so long have little or no appreciation of what a fine hot dog can really taste like.

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                          Chuck RE: the rogue Jun 28, 2002 09:42 PM

                          DTrain - ever been to NJ for a dog? Lots of fantastic places, but I am concerned when you say "bland" - Perhaps you just like a Jewish style, all beef, natural casing dog like Nathan's or Sabrett - Hey, nothing wrong with them.

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                          scharffenberger RE: D_Train Oct 2, 2007 02:17 AM

                          Walters is open until 6pm every night.

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                        Val G RE: Aaron Jun 14, 2002 04:29 PM

                        Just want to say that although Aaron's query was for NY hot dogs, I appreciated the new tips on NJ dogs. Let's not discourage folks from posting NJ tips on this Tri-State board.

                        Aaron, I wish I know of some good NY hot dog places, but I don't leave NJ very often :-)

                        Pass the relish...

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                          BFDno1 RE: Aaron May 29, 2009 05:12 PM

                          Pony Express to go serves the best dog around - no question. Natural casing, fresh home made bun and spicy mustard. You can top it with sauteed onions, fresh onions, chili, cheese - whatever you want. But the taste and crunch is the key. Wow.

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                          Jambalaya RE: Aaron Jun 12, 2002 04:19 PM

                          Why not head in the other direction to Buffalo and hit Ted's? That's certainly north of NYC. They are chargrilled and come with special chili sauce if you so desire along with the regional and obligatory Loganberry as well as some good onion rings. While in the area you can also get a good beef on weck as well as some good wings.

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                            sbp RE: Jambalaya Aug 7, 2010 07:33 PM

                            Ted's makes the best hot dogs in the universe. And the Loganberry and onion rings are just a bonus.

                            Get a foot long, and order "with everything, and burn it"

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                            Chuck RE: Aaron Jun 15, 2002 04:27 PM

                            Anybody that would even mention desiring a Chicago hot dog, doesn't have a clue about what a good hot dog is all about! No hot dog lover from the capital of the hot dog world, New Jersey, wants a salad topping a terrible Vienna Beef skinless hot dog!

                            Marathon Industries, Thumanns, Sabrett, Best, etc. makers of natural casing hot dogs - each one is better than the other. NJ - that's where you'll find these hot dog manufacturers and not in Upstate NY.

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                              mister_pj RE: Aaron Jun 23, 2002 12:54 AM

                              Give Pat's Hubba Hubba a try over on Main Street (Route 1) in Port Chester. It's greasy, grilled and can be piled high with chili but, it can be a guilty delight. Open all the time except Sunday mornings.

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                                CurlieGlamourGirlie RE: mister_pj Oct 2, 2007 05:12 AM

                                Pat's Hubba Hubba is still around????? I went to Purchase College and we used to go there all the time!! Best chiliburgers ever!!!

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                                  MikiLovesSugar RE: CurlieGlamourGirlie Oct 2, 2007 06:05 AM

                                  Im a current student at Purchase and YES! They are still around... they haven't changed a thing... soooo goood!

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                                  gailms RE: mister_pj Mar 9, 2010 04:41 PM

                                  The location of the Hubba, on Main St, used to be the Texas. It has the best hot dog (split & grilled on the flat top), served on a toasted bun with delicious, greasy chili. That chili has been around for many years. My grandfather worked there in the late '30's...I grew up in Port Chester, in the 60's...and the chili is still the same. Love it.

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                                  Jordan RE: Aaron Jun 27, 2002 12:19 PM

                                  In Rochester they have white hot dogs (white hots) and red ones (red hots). I don't really know what is in the white hots, but they're delicious. Anyone have some information, or know where to get white hots in the NYC area?

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                                    Nick RE: Jordan Aug 2, 2002 07:06 PM

                                    You can order white hots online from Rochester stores.

                                    Link: http://www.zweigles.com/

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                                    David RE: Aaron Aug 8, 2002 09:24 AM

                                    Since 1946, when I started going to NY at a regular basis, I stopped at a little stand on the junction of Rte.46 and rte 39. That was the original " Hot Dog Johnnies ". There I discovered the best Hot Dogs that I ever ate and have been eating them ever since. The traffic jams that were caused there made him move to his present location. Many improvments followed. When it is time for me to go to great beyond,I hope that there will be a "Hot Dog Johnnies " there. DW

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                                      BFDno1 RE: Aaron May 29, 2009 05:07 PM

                                      I assume you have tried Pony Express to go in Pleasantville NY as well as Blackies in CT

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                                        jfood RE: BFDno1 May 30, 2009 03:15 AM


                                        Welcome to the TriState

                                        This thread is from 2002. You may want to do a search fro more recent threads on the subject.

                                        There have been a few discussions inthe last few months in the FFD county area so give it a search and give us some good choices as well. Jfood is going to Burgers Shakes and Fries for lunch today and is going to give Korey's dog a whirl (along with his normal burger).


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                                          kattyeyes RE: jfood May 30, 2009 06:31 AM


                                          Paging jfood. Would jfood kindly report to the following thread?


                                          Other hot dog lovers, please follow, too. Your input will be appreciated. Thanks!

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                                        rdr1 RE: Aaron Jun 1, 2009 01:33 PM

                                        COSTCO - for $1.50 for a bigHebrew National and a drink - best bargin PLUS, it is a good tasting hot dog. They recently changed to their own brand, but cannot tell the difference.

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                                          michele cindy RE: rdr1 Jun 3, 2009 04:01 AM

                                          I just had one the other day. They are a bit overcooked and I get it with sauerkraut which they don't drain enough so the bun gets too soggy. All and all it's a good deal but I wouldn't go out of my way for one. But if I am there I will get one.

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                                          mommy2boys RE: Aaron Feb 21, 2010 08:25 AM

                                          Best Hot Dogs? Levittown...Long Island...NY..
                                          Coppa's on Wantagh Avenue 1/4 of a mile from Hempstead Turnpike.
                                          Always fresh...always clean...always friendly.
                                          As his sign says...the best hot dogs in town.

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                                            dmel RE: mommy2boys Apr 14, 2010 03:01 PM

                                            Where is this place? I can't find it on google?

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                                            sandralee RE: Aaron Mar 1, 2010 11:33 AM

                                            the best hot dogs in the world come from walters in mamroneck, new york the place has been there i think since the 1920's

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                                              biga290 RE: sandralee Mar 3, 2010 03:03 PM

                                              i enjoy walter's every once in awhile as much for the nostalgia as for the dog, which is a bit bland for my taste.

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                                                winston1 RE: biga290 Mar 3, 2010 05:58 PM

                                                The thing about Walter's is.....Walter's......the place itself. The hot dogs could come from a grocery store....bland and nothing exciting......

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                                                  MRS RE: winston1 Oct 30, 2013 12:27 PM

                                                  Walter's hit dogs taste strangely sweet to me. I don't care for them. I was a Nathan's girl...but haven't had a hot dog in years! Wow...takes me back.

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                                                  cavandre RE: biga290 Mar 26, 2010 03:17 PM

                                                  Once I got past the pagoda & the relish, I'm another that found the dog itself way too bland.

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                                                olliebomb RE: Aaron Mar 26, 2010 07:04 AM

                                                Rochester has Zweigles hots red AND white put some Nick Tahou s Hot sauce and onions brown mustard a delicacy

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                                                  Old Red RE: olliebomb Mar 28, 2010 11:19 AM

                                                  Zwiegles is a good hot. But nothing tops a Hoffman's hot at Heid's in Liverpool.

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                                                    phunkykim RE: Old Red Apr 15, 2010 08:05 AM

                                                    parked outside of Lowes in Carle place/ Garden city is the Hot Dawg Truck

                                                    great dogs, knishes with tasty toppings!!

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                                                      Scott_R RE: phunkykim Apr 15, 2010 11:22 AM

                                                      They're just Sabrett & Boars Head; nothing unusual. I'm a minimalist when it comes to toppings, so I don't see much here of interest..

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                                                  danyelle315 RE: Aaron Aug 7, 2010 02:33 PM

                                                  Heids of Liverpool, just a second north of Syraucse. Jersey sucks and smells,there is no need to go there for food, you might as well just stay in New York or go up to Central New York where Heids has Hoffmans German Franks, they are the shit !

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                                                    hotdoglover RE: danyelle315 Aug 8, 2010 03:04 PM

                                                    I don't know what part of Jersey you were in, but it ain't called the Garden State for nothing. And I'll put our food up against anyone's. Did you know that New Jersey is the hot dog capital of the world? We have more style of hot dogs than anywhere and top quality franks to boot. Hofmann's franks are sold here at Wegmans, and they are good, but some of the franks from our local German butcher shops and pork stores are better.

                                                    Regional producer Thumann's might make the best hot dog in the country.

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                                                      jfood RE: danyelle315 Aug 8, 2010 05:25 PM

                                                      Dems are fighting words. There are foods in NJ that jfood misses terribly, great hot dogs, real bagels, fantastic pizza and the true Sloppy Joe, not that leftover ground beef crap on a bun. And let's not forget Spiritos in Elizabeth which might make the best Ravioli in the country.

                                                    2. eclecticsynergy RE: Aaron Aug 9, 2010 02:34 PM

                                                      I'm up in the Capital District, and as a former Jersey resident I have to say I miss the Jersey hot dog joints very much, but can't justify driving three hours just to satisfy my craving.

                                                      That said, in this area there's a little old-time joint called Gus'; it's in Watervliet, a couple miles north of Albany. Tiny hole in the wall (literally- if you order outside, they'll hand your food to you through a hole in the wall!) that's like taking a trip back in time to the 1940s.

                                                      Great little red dogs with or without homemade meat sauce (the dogs are still custom made locally for Gus' according to the old recipe, I'm told), classic burgers with or without nice greasy fried onions, French fries that make me think of the boardwalk and paper hats...

                                                      It's a nostalgic gem. And a really good hot dog. Just a couple of blocks off Broadway, and 90 seconds from the highway exit (Rte 787, 25th St).

                                                      Definitely my local favorite dog, especially since Emil Meister's closed and I can't get his handmade ones any more..

                                                      Gus's Hotdogs
                                                      212 25th St, Watervliet, NY 12189

                                                      1. onealexis RE: Aaron Sep 12, 2010 03:54 PM

                                                        Have you tried the hotdog at Five Guys Burger and Fries yet? My son says they're amazing.

                                                        Five Guys
                                                        7 Southside Dr Ste 107, Clifton Park, NY 12065

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                                                          Scott_R RE: onealexis Sep 12, 2010 08:19 PM

                                                          Five Guys just sells Hebrew Nationals hot dogs. That's not a problem in itself: I like Hebrew National better than pretty much any other national brands (though I prefer their knockwurst), but I don't see the point of going to a place to buy the same hot dog that I can buy for less in my local supermarket and then cook better myself.

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                                                          Raffles RE: Aaron Oct 30, 2013 08:36 AM

                                                          Hoffmans, both red and whites!

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                                                            lemarais RE: Aaron Oct 30, 2013 04:43 PM

                                                            Any updates on re opening of Nathan's Central Ave?

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                                                              valerie RE: lemarais Oct 31, 2013 06:39 PM

                                                              They are hiring.


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                                                              acssss RE: Aaron Nov 6, 2013 01:36 PM

                                                              Ted's Hot Dogs in Buffalo (I think the one on Sheridan Dr is still in existence since they opened in 1927) has, hands down, the best hot dogs anywhere (including NYC)!!!
                                                              Second? Nathan's - which has a place in Albany if I'm not mistaken.

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                                                                Enigma3 RE: Aaron Nov 7, 2013 01:17 PM

                                                                Nice to see this thread still open for discussion. While I have not had the pleasure of tasting a Ted's dog yet, We now buy only Hoffman's angus hotdogs at our local meat market. You can get these at many places in upstate. The angus hotdog is longer and thicker than a normal dog and the taste is the best. We have tried most every hotdog available but now only the Hoffman's angus dogs will do. You'll need an extra long (hoagie) bun to fit it into.

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