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  <id>250022</id>
  <title>Westchester Eats? Where to go for Great Food?</title>
  <published_at>Tue Apr 20 15:50:59 -0700 1999</published_at>
  <post_count>51</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>20</id>
    <name>Tristate Region</name>
  </board>
  <posts>
    <post>
      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>1329466</id>
        <content>I'm looking for a casual place with really good food.  I am NOT looking for cheap eats (burgers, ribs, etc).  Something more upscale but not too pricey.  Fusion food, new french bistro, but it doesn't have to be to "ethnicy."  Just great food, and great service.  By the way I need this place for this saturday night. Thanks.</content>
        <published_at>Tue Apr 20 15:50:59 -0700 1999</published_at>
        <parent_id></parent_id>
        <user>
          <id>0</id>
          <name>Marla</name>
        </user>
      </post>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1329467</id>
      <content>try my fave,  caffe stega  914 769 4040/pleasantville.  casual/tasty/relaxed/delicious/comfort/italian/yet modern. I'm a `little biased, one of my best friends owns the place- but really- its great.   order ravioli specials, bruschetta specials, then ask for Joe, he'll tell you what to do for main course- enjoy.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Apr 20 19:12:17 -0700 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1329466</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>stephen kaye</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1329471</id>
      <content>Good luck Marla.  I'm afraid that Westchester and good 
food borders on an oxymoron.  As a transplanted 
Brooklynite, I've been searching for several years now. 
 Check your stomach at the county line.  I'm curious to 
see what suggestions your query yields.  </content>
      <published_at>Tue Apr 27 09:39:51 -0700 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1329467</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>glenn </name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>1329472</id>
      <content>Nonsense.  Things are more sparse here than in the
city, of course, but there are plenty of good
restaurants.  Read the articles posted here in the past
and you'll have enough choices to keep you busy for the
rest of the year.</content>
      <published_at>Tue Apr 27 11:47:31 -0700 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1329471</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Josh Mittleman</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>1329478</id>
      <content>I have gone to several of the places posted and more 
often that not leave disappointed.  Other than high 
priced places such as Buffet de la Gare, what are your 
top five Westchester picks.  </content>
      <published_at>Thu Apr 29 16:21:31 -0700 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1329472</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>glenn</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>1329479</id>
      <content>Top five picks for what?  You've ruled out places that
cost more than $50 per person, but that leaves a
tremendous number of possibilities.  Narrow it down and
I'll be happy to suggest my favorites.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Apr 29 17:32:49 -0700 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1329478</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Josh Mittleman</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>6</level>
      <id>1329480</id>
      <content>I'm looking for a place where a family of four can eat 
for $65.00 or under.  Chineese (we'll pass on the 
Hartsdale Gardens) Italian, Indian, or real pizzza a la 
Patsy Grimaldi or the Coney Island Tottonos would be at 
the top of our list.  This list can also include the 
nearby Bronx, as we travel to Riverdale for our 
Chineese meals.  Thanks.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Apr 30 09:26:31 -0700 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1329479</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>glenn</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>7</level>
      <id>1329481</id>
      <content>try caffe strega in pleasantville 914 769 4040     go to roberto's in the  bronx /  arthur ave. section.186th I believe.  Piero's in rye 914 937 2904     malabar hill/indian  elsmford. enjoy</content>
      <published_at>Fri Apr 30 10:04:11 -0700 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1329480</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>stephen kaye</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>8</level>
      <id>1329484</id>
      <content>Yes, all of the Indian places mentioned are quite good, 
although a tad expensive when compared with eating on 
8th Street in the city.
 
 The Indian and Japanese restaurants in Westchester as 
a group fare well.  The Chineese restaurants have a way 
to go.  I've tried all of the ones suggested save for 
Pacific Palace.  We still drive to the city line 
(Riverdale) for Chineese food.  
 
Sharon is right about Valentino's.  The food is good 
and plentiful.  It can get mighty cramped and hard to 
get into.  Any other decent Italian places?  What about 
authentic thin crust, fresh mozzarella, wood/coal oven 
pizza?</content>
      <published_at>Fri Apr 30 14:14:35 -0700 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1329481</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>glenn</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>9</level>
      <id>1329492</id>
      <content>I haven't found brick oven style pizza in Westchester 
on a par with Totonno's in Brooklyn, John's of Bleeker 
Street, or Nick's in Forest Hills.  (Nor have I found 
traditional by-the-slice pizza that's nearly as good 
as the typical place in Brooklyn.)  The best I've had -
- and the restaurant is great, too -- is at La Manda's 
on Rte 119 in White Plains.  Cash only place (as is 
Valentino's).  Compared with Valentino's, it's scaled-
down, more casual and simple and the meals are not as 
sumptuous.  But while the fare is very basic southern 
Italian, it is good, honest food, very reasonable, and 
as I said the pizza is terrific.  I particularly 
recommend the sausage, as it is homemade.  Good for 
kids too as you can see them make the pizzas in the 
coal oven.</content>
      <published_at>Mon May 03 20:25:47 -0700 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1329484</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Neil</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>10</level>
      <id>1329502</id>
      <content>Everything you say about La Manda is on the money.  It 
is one of my favorite places in the county.  The food 
is good and the people are friendly. Although the pizza 
dough seems to have a high oil content, it is still 
quite good.  My only problem with the place is that it 
is often very crowded and can be cramped.  It's better 
to try it at an off hour.  Do you have any other places 
similar in spirit and food quality?  The food can be 
any type of cuisine.  If you like La Manda, you might 
want to try Johnny's Pizza, on E. Lincoln Road in Mt. 
Vernon.  The pizza while not made in a coal/wood 
burning oven, is thin crusted, slightly blistered and 
authentic in it's own right. There are other items 
besides the pizza, but the selection is not as broad as 
La Manda.   Family owned for over fifty years, it's 
worth checking out.   </content>
      <published_at>Wed May 05 11:02:56 -0700 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1329492</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>glenn</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>11</level>
      <id>1329508</id>
      <content>Thanks for the tip re: Johnny's; I'll check it out.  
Have you been to Angelina's in Tuckahoe?  It's a pizza 
place with a connecting restaurant that attempts to be 
comparatively upscale (it has tablecloths).  The pizza 
is OK, but nothing special.  It is disappointing given 
the promise of the crowds and atmoshphere -- it looks 
like a real pizza restaurant that's been there 
forever; you think maybe it'll be Westchester's answer 
to Sally's Apizza or Frank Pepe -- then you get the 
pizza, and it's mediocre by the standards of this 
Brooklyn boy.</content>
      <published_at>Thu May 06 01:00:04 -0700 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1329502</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Neil</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>12</level>
      <id>1329509</id>
      <content>No I haven't tried it, and thanks to you I never will. 
It is hard to believe that no one has tried to create a 
genuine pizza joint like a Totonno, Patsy Grimaldi, 
Johns or Sally's in Westchester.  It is a pure and 
simple dish, requiring only a few high quality 
ingredients, and the right oven.  Oh well....
</content>
      <published_at>Thu May 06 10:17:55 -0700 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1329508</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>glenn</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>13</level>
      <id>1329514</id>
      <content>&gt;
 
I haven't steered you wrong yet, eh?
 
I feel a little guilty turning people off to 
Angelina's.  It's not a bad place, really; it's a 
popular neighborhood pizza restaurant, a comfortable 
place to hang out.  The pizza can be enjoyable, it's 
pretty good.  It's only compared with Totonno's (I 
used to live in Trump Village, a few blocks form 
there, by the way) or Sally's or the other classic 
places I mentioned that you would have to say it sucks 
in comparison.  (It's nowhere near as good as La 
Manda's either.)
</content>
      <published_at>Thu May 06 22:59:39 -0700 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1329509</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Neil</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>7</level>
      <id>1329482</id>
      <content>My favorite Indian in Westchester is Dawat in White
Plains.  If that's not to your taste -- and many people
don't prefer their style -- try  Malabar Hill on Rt.
119 in Elmwood or Bengal Tiger in White Plains. 
Neither of them is stunning, but both are good.  If you
want to drive a bit further, I recommend Jaipore on Rt.
22 in Brewster, just over the county line.  They have
some interesting, unusual dishes.
 
I can't recommend a really great Italian restaurant in
Westchester.  Spaccarelli's in Millwood is good.  I'm
not sure it will fall within your budget, which is
pretty tight for four people.  Caffe Strega is good,
too, but not particularly authentic and I think it is
more expensive.  I'm sure there are great, inexpensive
Italian places in the area; I just haven't looked very
widely for one because if I'm not going to the city and
I want to eat Italian, I'd just as soon cook it myself.
You might try Giorgio's in the Clock Tower mall on Rt.
22 in Brewster; it was recommended to me by someone
here.  
 
For Chinese, my current favorites are Hunan Village on
Rt. 100 in Yonkers, that place across the street from
the Hartsdale train station that was mentioned here a
couple days ago, Hartsdale Garden (sorry, I've still
never had a bad dish there), and, when I don't want to
drive so far, Pacific Palace on Rt. 141 in Thornwood.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Apr 30 10:28:02 -0700 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1329480</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Josh Mittleman</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>8</level>
      <id>1329556</id>
      <content>Josh, have you tried Tony's Trattoria in Croton yet?  
It's housed in what used to be a soft ice cream place, 
on Riverside Avenue (Rte 9A) at the intersection with 
Oneida, and easy walk from the Croton-Harmon train 
station.
 
I've had nothing but terrific meals there, both 
lunches and dinners; I believe they are closed only on 
Mondays.</content>
      <published_at>Fri May 21 20:53:31 -0700 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1329482</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Elisa Davis</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>9</level>
      <id>1329561</id>
      <content>Indeed I have, several times.  It's a fine local 
restaurant, and we go there every few weeks when we 
want good food, nice service, and an easy walk home.  
The portions are ridiculously large, but once you know 
that, you can order appropriately.</content>
      <published_at>Sun May 23 21:56:53 -0700 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1329556</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Josh Mittleman</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>10</level>
      <id>1329565</id>
      <content>Ah, I didn't realize we live in the same town!
 
I don't mind large portions, I rather like have 
leftovers.   Plus, many of the appetizers are worth 
having (bruchetta and fried calamari particularly 
outstanding), would be a shame to miss them.</content>
      <published_at>Tue May 25 13:25:05 -0700 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1329561</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Elisa Davis</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>7</level>
      <id>1329483</id>
      <content>You might want to try Valentino's (just off the Brx 
River Pkwy) for solid southern Italian dishes. 
Ridiculously huge portions of hearty food, friendly 
atmosphere, great pasta. Go early--it gets very 
crowded.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Apr 30 12:01:40 -0700 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1329480</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Sharon A</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>7</level>
      <id>1329490</id>
      <content>can somebody tell me where Valentino's is? Thanks</content>
      <published_at>Mon May 03 13:40:07 -0700 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1329480</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>janice</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>8</level>
      <id>1329491</id>
      <content>Valentino's is located on Bronx River Road in Yonkers, 
just north of the Bronx/Yonkers border.  It is easily 
accessible from the Bronx River Parkway.
 
In response to the message from a transplanted 
Brooklynite dissing Westchester restaurants, well I 
too am a transplanted Brooklynite who couln't disagree 
more.  Valentino's alone proves the worth of 
Westchester restaurants vis a vis Brooklyn, as it is a 
better Italian restaurant than anything Brooklyn has 
to offer -- and basically all Brooklyn has to offer is 
Italian restaurants!</content>
      <published_at>Mon May 03 20:07:25 -0700 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1329490</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Neil</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>9</level>
      <id>1329504</id>
      <content>All that Brooklyn has is Italian restaurants?  You may 
not have lived in Brooklyn long or traveled widely 
about the borough.  Every type of food is available 
there.  Tell me where I can go for middle eastern food, 
a la Atlantic Avenue or just a plain old falafel in 
Westchester.  Where is real soul/barbeque of Ft. 
Greene, the pirogi's of Greenpoint? Hows about Chineese 
food like that found in Sunset Park's Chinatown or on 
just about every other block throughout the borough.
Valantino's and La Manda are equal to anything in 
Brooklyn.  Sadly they are the exception rather than 
representative of what's available as a whole.    </content>
      <published_at>Wed May 05 12:03:31 -0700 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1329491</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>glenn</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>10</level>
      <id>1329507</id>
      <content>OK, I'll admit I overstated that all Brooklyn offers 
is Italian restaurants.  Brooklyn is an incredibly 
large borough, and I had in mind the vast southern 
part where I grew up rather than the downtown Brooklyn 
spots you mentioned. Yes, Sunset Park has some great, 
authentic Cantonese places (and Avenue U followed suit 
in recent years) but Westchester is not lacking for 
Chinese food (well, at least it has some good ones).  
Prior to the immigrant wave to Sunset Park and Avenue 
U there was NO good Chinese food in Brooklyn; 
certainly there was none when I was growing up!  (I 
question your statement that there's good Chinese on 
every other corner!) Westchester is becoming 
increasingly diverse, even eclectic: as to your query 
regarding Middle Eatern food there is Turquoise, a 
Turkish restaurant in Mamaroneck.  Hogwash (also in 
Mamaroneck) is a pretty good barbecue place, good 
ribs.  There's South African, Goan Indian, Basque, 
lots of Portuguese...put it this way: I'm not sorry I 
moved!</content>
      <published_at>Thu May 06 00:48:42 -0700 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1329504</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Neil</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>11</level>
      <id>1329510</id>
      <content>I'm not sorry I moved either but all too often I feel 
that I should have left my taste buds in Brooklyn.  
You seem to get around Westchester a lot, do tell of 
you favorite 2 Chineese restaurants.  Also, I've heard 
that there are good places for those who travel to 
Mamaroneck.  What do you like over there?  You 
mentioned Hogwash.  After trying what may be their 
sister restaurant, Bayou, in Mt. Vernon, I was not so 
sure about Hogwash.  But if you say so, maybe I'll give 
it a try.  If you like southern style, give Yvonne's 
Southern Cooking in Pelham a try.  It's good, and they 
often have live jazz on the weekend.  </content>
      <published_at>Thu May 06 10:40:48 -0700 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1329507</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>glenn </name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>12</level>
      <id>1329513</id>
      <content>My two favorite Chinese restaurants in 
Westchester...well, Jade Palace (Central Avenue in 
Scarsdale) is very good, particularly the soups 
(yellow leek and dried something or other is really 
good -- hey, it's late, I forgot).  Very fresh seafood 
as well.  Presumably you know Hunan Village (Central 
Avenue in Yonkers); it has an insert to the standard 
menu with exotic specialties (the insert proudly 
mentions John Mariani, the food critic, as having 
raved about such dishes).  The chef often strolls 
around and is excited to share suggestions with 
interested clientele.  He can offer some specials that 
are not on the menu that can definitely make for a 
memorable meal.  These two restaurants are convenient 
to where I live, which is an important factor to 
consider inasmuch as I'm not inclined to travel across 
the county for Chinese food unless I have reason to 
believe it's truly exceptional!</content>
      <published_at>Thu May 06 22:51:24 -0700 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1329510</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Neil</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>13</level>
      <id>1329515</id>
      <content>Thanks for the tips.  I've been to Hunan Village, 
perhaps they are entitled to a second chance.  Jade 
Palace is within striking distance and we'll give it a 
chance.  Did you frequent Totonno's when you were 
living in Coney Island?  That Gerry Piro was some piece 
of work.  There was a time when you'd wait on line for 
a while, then wait for an hour after you were seated 
for your pie.  My kids both ate in the acncient wooden 
high chairs that are still there. I've been back 
recently when visiting relatives, and the pizza is 
still good, Cookie the waitress (Gerry's niece) is 
friendlier, and you can sit right down.   </content>
      <published_at>Fri May 07 09:43:19 -0700 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1329513</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>glenn</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>14</level>
      <id>1329518</id>
      <content>I used to eat at Totonno's frequently, although I 
lived in Trump Village for years before I found our 
about the place!  I moved to Westchester in '90, so my 
Totonno's visits were in the late 80's.  I used to tip 
nicely; I found that made Jerry's niece friendlier!  
(But yes, the overall atmosphere was that they were 
doing you a tremendous favor allowing you in their 
restaurant.)  Not long ago I went to Totonno's in the 
City; it was a big disappointment.  Clean, friendly, 
smoke-free -- all the things the COney Island branch 
isn't -- but inferior pizza!  </content>
      <published_at>Fri May 07 15:28:46 -0700 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1329515</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Neil</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>10</level>
      <id>1329519</id>
      <content>I lived in Brooklyn for many years and I've lived in 
Westchester for many years. Finding good restaurants 
is more difficult in Westchester. HOWEVER, I've found 
a reasonably good falafel at the Kosher Pizza parlor 
in the Wykagyl strip on North Ave. in New Rochelle; 
there's also a Turkish restaurant on the main drag of 
Mamaroneck, and I haven't had a great Middle Eastern 
meal in Brooklyn since before the Tripoli burned down. 
No, there's no restaurant serving perogis or any other 
Polish food that I'm aware of, but Yonkers Miasarnia, 
a kielbasa-maker on Lockwood Avenue in Yonkers, makes 
'em in about 8 different flavors including saurkraut. 
They also sell their own killer mustards and 
horseradish (and the kielbasas are pretty serious, 
too). Chinese food is a lost cause up here unless 
you're looking for the comfort food of your youth. I 
recommend eating Thai food instead if you're not going 
to drive to the City. Bangkok Thai at 1208 Post Rd is 
better than average, Siam Sea Grill in Port Chester is 
very good, and Reka's, in the basement of an apartment 
building where Westchester Ave. and North Broadway 
meet (right near the new mall), is excellent, adding 
French accents to traditional Thai dishes. Also, there 
are a good number of Mexican and South American 
restaurants in the lower county. I'm a big fan of the 
Mexican Corner Restaurant on Main Street in New 
Rochelle, and the guy is open for breakfast on 
weekends. Also, there are more places in Port Chester 
than you can count -- every time I go there it seems 
there are two or three new restaurants catering to 
Peruvians, Ecuadorians, Dominicans or Mexicans. Tio 
Pepe, the Mexican place between the Capitol Theater 
and the train station, is now the venerable lunchroom, 
and the Peruvian place on Westchester Ave behind the 
Coney Island fast food joint makes very good fish. 
Also, I would be remiss if I brought up Port Chester 
without mentioning Pat's Hubba Hubba -- the greasiest, 
funkiest, hippest poison parlor on the planet. They 
put chili on the dogs, they put chili on the burgers, 
they put chili on fries, they put chili on the wedges 
-- you get the idea: if you're smart you'll keep your 
hand off the counter. You get me point -- sure, 
Westchester ain't Brooklyn. But what is? </content>
      <published_at>Fri May 07 17:54:05 -0700 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1329504</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Fred Goodman</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>11</level>
      <id>1329520</id>
      <content>Fred, could you provide a bit more detail?  Just 
kidding.  Well, it looks like some transplanted food-
obsessed Brooklynites have found a forum.  Believe it 
or not, you left out a few ethnic types.  Off the top 
of my head: Cuban cuisine is represented in the Latin 
American Cafe in White Plains (Rte 22).  It's not the 
best Cuban I've had (that would be in South Florida, 
of course), but it'll do for a Cuban fix.  Get the 
chorizos con tostones as an appetizer, lechon asado 
(roast pork) if available as an entree, and of course 
the cafe con leche and flan for dessert.  There's no 
Cuban in Brooklyn that I'm aware of, and I ain't 
venturing to East New York to look.  Also, there are 
two authentic Korean barbecue places -- Kang Suh in 
Scarsdale (Central Avenue) and Tokyo Seoul in Ardsley 
(I haven't been there, but I hear it's good).  Not to 
mention sushi up the wazoo -- Gyosai in Scarsdale 
(Garth Road) is my favorite, some swear by Azuma 
Sushi -- no good sushi to my knowledge in Brooklyn (I 
went to a place in Bay Ridge once that wasn't so 
great).  And there's the Spanish restaurants, La 
Camilia and Espana, that are excellent -- no good 
Spanish to my knowledge in Brooklyn.  BUT -- Nathan's 
in Coney Island still has that magic that Yonker's 
can't conjure...</content>
      <published_at>Fri May 07 20:41:54 -0700 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1329519</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Neil</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>12</level>
      <id>1329521</id>
      <content>"BUT -- Nathan's in Coney Island still has that magic that Yonker's
can't conjure..."
 
Ironically, there's more of an old-time Nathan's ambiance at Johnny's Famous Reef in City Island...which, though not exactly in Westchester, sure feels like it....
 
ciao</content>
      <published_at>Fri May 07 23:09:22 -0700 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1329520</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Jim Leff</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>12</level>
      <id>1329549</id>
      <content>Tokyo Seoul is all right, but not great.  Not as bad 
as Korean I've had in France, but it certainly doesn't 
measure up to Manhattan trendy or Manhattan authentic 
Korean.  Not to mention the "we're the only Korean 
game in town" prices.
 
When I'm in Westchester, and I order from Tokyo Seoul, 
the food is a ghostly reminder of the more tender pork 
cuts of NYC eating.  This, for me, is the classic 
example of a restaurant in Westchester that is good 
enough, it seems, to survive, but always a bit of a 
letdown.  I'm glad to hear of an alternative.
 

 
</content>
      <published_at>Wed May 19 12:33:25 -0700 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1329520</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>C</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>11</level>
      <id>1329522</id>
      <content>fred, awesome message, thanks for posting.
 
But you're cheating. It's comparatively easy to find good eats in eastern Westchester (though you get extra points for doing so without mentioning Brazilian-- the most happening influx right now thereabouts).
 
It's far tougher toward the west. The Mt. Kisco/Chappaqua/Pleasantville area--where I hang out a bit--is a real desert. In fact, north of White Plains (which ain't exactly a chow mecca itself) is a bit of a disaster right up to the Canadian border, with the exception of a coupla good diners way up by Albany. Maybe an apple farm or two.
 
ciao</content>
      <published_at>Fri May 07 23:10:12 -0700 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1329519</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Jim Leff</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>12</level>
      <id>1329555</id>
      <content>Jim, have you yet to visit Zeph's in Peekskill?  It's 
a truly fine restaurant, not just for Westchester, but 
just plain terrific for anywhere.
 
Vicki Zeph is the CIA-trained chef, and her brother 
Michael runs the restaurant.
 
Please let me know any time you'd like to go there, 
I'll come running!  They are open only for dinner, on 
Wednesdays-Sundays, and reservations are suggested, 
especially on weekends.</content>
      <published_at>Fri May 21 20:50:26 -0700 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1329522</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Elisa Davis</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>13</level>
      <id>1329562</id>
      <content>A couple colleagues of mine have recommended Zeph's 
several times.  It's on my list of places to try, but I 
don't know much about it.  Can you describe the food, 
Elisa?</content>
      <published_at>Sun May 23 21:57:58 -0700 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1329555</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Josh Mittleman</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>14</level>
      <id>1329564</id>
      <content>Josh,
 
The chef (Vicky Zeph) is a CIA graduate, and the menu 
changes each season--plus there are daily specials.  
There is usually one dish in each of several 
categories (chicken, duck, beef, lamb, fish, 
vegetarian, pasta)--inventive and flavorful, usually 
with home-grown herbs (many growing right at the site, 
on a city street in Peekskill ).
 
I'm almost at a loss to describe the food, she uses 
fresh ingredients in that distinctly CIA way, where 
all sorts of different cuisines influence and inform, 
often mixing influences from different countries in 
one dish.
 
All the desserts are made on the premises, and the 
chocolate malted ice cream is a particular favorite in 
my family.
 
I can be talked into going there for no reason at all, 
let me know if you'd like some company when you choose 
to go.</content>
      <published_at>Tue May 25 13:21:47 -0700 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1329562</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Elisa Davis</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>12</level>
      <id>1329572</id>
      <content>Jim --
 
I know you posted awhile ago, but I haven't been 
keepin' up with the board. You won't get a fight out 
of me about northern Westchester -- nada. But stickin' 
to the south and east ain't cheatin' -- it's goin' for 
the eatin'! BTW, there are a couple of good spots in 
White Plains, particularly Island Spice on Martine, 
which makes a killer roti, and Sunshine Jamaican 
Bakery tucked off 119 near the Westchester County 
Center. Their steam table looks a little dicey, but 
they make a gunko pea soup with coconut milk, 
dumplings and goat to travel that's a revelation. 
Also, there's a good Cuban restaurant, the Latin 
American Cafe, on Post Road near Bengal Tiger. He's 
always got fresh roast pig and his ox tails are worth 
the trip alone. Don't bother with the Cuban sandwich, 
though. There's also a Phillipine market two blocks 
further down the Post Road (toward Scarsdale) -- 
haven't checked it out, but the steam table looks 
pretty ambitious. Also, the Oasis Diner, also on Post 
Road, is now a combo diner/Latin American restaurant: 
if you don't know whether you're in the mood for a 
chicken salad sandwich or pernil, this is the place. 
 
As for upstate New York, this is tough. I can't say 
I've found any great restaurants, but I'll bet they're 
there. I've been thumbing through Jan Greenberg's 
"Hudson Valley Bounty" (Berkshire House 
Publishers/Lee, MA)and the lists of dairies, butchers, 
smokers, orchards, farms and assorted outlets is very 
impressive. I've been through there scouting for 
smoked shad (unsuccessfully) and taking my kids to 
pick asparagus. The book also includes a fairly 
detailed restaurant guide.</content>
      <published_at>Fri May 28 09:37:32 -0700 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1329522</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Fred Goodman</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>13</level>
      <id>1329574</id>
      <content>great message, as usual, Fred! Stop back more often, ok?
 
oh, and can I reprint your info on "Hudson Valley Bounty"? I'm getting ready to add lots more books to our recommended reading list (if you'd like to make additions, just email 'em to me)</content>
      <published_at>Sat May 29 12:30:19 -0700 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1329572</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Jim Leff</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>14</level>
      <id>1329586</id>
      <content>Definitely add the Hudson book -- I imagine some of it 
is out of date already, but its strong point is a long 
list of farms, purveyors, specialty food sources, and 
restaurants, all with phone number that can be easily 
checked. </content>
      <published_at>Fri Jun 04 11:13:34 -0700 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1329574</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Fred Goodman</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>12</level>
      <id>1330274</id>
      <content>Food in the Chappaqua/Mt. Kisco area is very "hit or miss".  The only consistently really good food (B+ or better) can be found at the City Limits Diner in White Plains.  In Mt. Kisco, the Lexington Cafe is good (Grade B) as is the Kittle House on 117.  Luna tries to make a show but doesn't make it with the food.  17 Main was great one night and off the next week when the food had no flavor (go figure).  I haven't tried the Iron Horse Grill, but assuming you've got aged steak, how could they ruin it except to overcook.  Went to Rustica on State Road.  Don't waste your time!
The simple stuff at Peabody's in Chappaqua and the predictably fresh fish at the sushi place in Chappaqua and Mt. Kisco is what you should stick with.
 
Please advise if you find anything I haven't tried.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Feb 20 12:47:48 -0800 2000</published_at>
      <parent_id>1329522</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Dan Venet</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>13</level>
      <id>1330275</id>
      <content>There are LOTS of other tips for the Chap/Kisco area scattered thru this board and in some of my writings as well. Try the search engine!
 
IMO, the City Limits Diner is good only for corned beef hash and beer (not necessarily together!). That it's a few steps above most local chow options reflects more on the chow up there than on the diner...
 
JIM</content>
      <published_at>Sun Feb 20 13:36:02 -0800 2000</published_at>
      <parent_id>1330274</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Jim Leff</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>13</level>
      <id>1330276</id>
      <content>our local fave is  cafe stregga/in pleasantville 914 769 4040.   relaxed casual delicious italian/mediterr. style.  homey, generous portions/great specials.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Feb 20 13:50:19 -0800 2000</published_at>
      <parent_id>1330274</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>stephen kaye</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1329476</id>
      <content>wow, are you all a bunch of pessimistic readers. Are there as many great eats as NYC- nooo-but this is not an impossible request. Ok so you want good if not even some great eats here is goes...Two Moons in Portchester, Iron Horse Grill in Pleasantvillle (excellant everything, they even know to cool a bottle of red to cellar temp), The Fish Cellar in Mount Kisco (great raw bar), Mediterraneo in Pleasantville, Luna in Mt. Kisco (expatriot NYC chef). If you go to any of these let me know your thought. </content>
      <published_at>Thu Apr 29 09:28:08 -0700 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1329466</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>kelly</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1329477</id>
      <content>Kelly, 
   what kind of food does Two Moons serve? Also, any 
recommendations as far as the Latin American 
restaurants in P.C.? Thanks for any tips!
 
Susan</content>
      <published_at>Thu Apr 29 12:10:22 -0700 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1329476</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Susan T.</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>1336118</id>
      <content>Two Moons is Tex-Mex, or Southwestern, and bigger on the decor and the crowd it attracts (Rye, Scarsdale, etc.) than on the service and quality of food.  It was terrific when it first opened, but suffered a significant decline after a few years.
 
For excellent Brazilian food, try Pantanel (spelling?) in PortChester, especially if you're a voracious carnivore.  </content>
      <published_at>Fri Aug 16 15:30:15 -0700 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1329477</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Freddy</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1329753</id>
      <content>I have to disagree with your choice of Mediterraneo 
and Luna. Both have been very disappointing. I am a 
certified Italian who knows good food (my parents have 
owned two successful restaurants and my mom was one of 
the cooks)Food is a real passion. Westchester is 
lacking restaurants with good food. Kiddle House -
American food- in Pleasantville and L'Europa -French- 
in Vista are two pure choices for those who are 
looking for a descent meal. Stick to Manhattan if you 
really want to eat. Buona Fortuna!!  </content>
      <published_at>Fri Sep 10 22:48:48 -0700 1999</published_at>
      <parent_id>1329476</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>john</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1331254</id>
      <content>My wife and I tried Restaurant Luna in Mt. Kisco.  (The Fish Cellar was our first choice, but they weren't answering their phone.)  It was a pleasant meal and the food was quite good, but seriously overpriced and seriously over-proportioned.  We started with a salad advertised as frisee, bacon, and roquefort.  It was nice, and it split two ways without a problem; but the cheese was either very poor roquefort or reasonably good Danish-style blue.  I enjoyed it, but I was surprised.
 
Riva had a half roast duck with plum sauce and sweet potato fries, and she loved it.  I had a veal chop with wild mushroom-laced rice.  It was good once I sent it back to be properly cooked.  Both dishes came with a super-abundance of well-prepared mixed vegetables.  We could easily have split either dish: I had no idea veal chops could get that big.
 
Their chocolate volcano (a warm devil's food cake with a warm chocolate sauce on top) was OK.  Their coffee was fine, but be careful: A double espresso was the size of a regular American coffee cup!
 
They have a nice-but-overpriced wine list and a decent-but-overpriced beer list.  One appetizer, two entrees, and one dessert came to about $100 (plus wine).  The only way we'll go back is if we feel like splitting a dish.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Oct 23 15:22:16 -0700 2000</published_at>
      <parent_id>1329476</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Josh Mittleman</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1331303</id>
      <content>I also like Mediterraneo in Pleasantville.  Really, my favorite place in mid-Westchester.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Nov 09 19:21:43 -0800 2000</published_at>
      <parent_id>1329476</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>PhilB</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3519203</id>
      <content>Future possibilities: 
1. Santorini, a new greek rest in Sleepy Hollow; great food and reasonable prices.
2. Que Chula es Puebla, another new rest in Sleepy Hollow with excellent mexican food; service could be better, but it is worth it.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Mar 23 07:33:35 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>1329466</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>169108</id>
        <name>miguel2</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3540958</id>
      <content>Re Kisco Kosher Deli, did they move, already?

Weren't they on Mamaroneck Ave.? I had a rare visit to WP today, and couldn't find them. I just checked on Mapquest, and they're between Mam'k Ave. and North Broadway. Next time.

Am I wrong about seeing them on a corner on Mamaroneck Ave.?</content>
      <published_at>Sat Mar 29 13:34:13 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3519203</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11104</id>
        <name>dolores</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>3541559</id>
      <content>Corner of East Post and Broadway, you can check out Korova milk bar too, located  across the street from Kisco Kosher  a couple of stores up from the corner.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Mar 29 17:34:52 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3540958</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>91796</id>
        <name>chowdom</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>3542267</id>
      <content>Rats, I was sooo close.

Thanks, chowdom, next time.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Mar 30 03:38:35 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3541559</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>11104</id>
        <name>dolores</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>3542393</id>
      <content>Korova is russian for cow.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Mar 30 06:19:26 -0700 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3542267</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>178984</id>
        <name>organiclover</name>
      </user>
    </post>
  </posts>
</topic>
