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  • Jenny May 21, 2003 01:00 PM
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Does anyone know of any good restaurants in Riverdale? Any kind of cuisine is fine.

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  1. I lived in Riverdale all my life but I've yet to find a good restaurant. The only place I go to is Palace of Japan on Johnson Avenue for sushi - their rolls are great! For American/Italian food that won't make you sick (but it's boring) you could try Madison's on Riverdale Avenue and 256th Street.

    Mostly we go to Manhattan to eat.

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    1. re: Tatyana

      I have also lived in Riverdale all my life. I do like Palace of Japan, they have great Japanese food. I was just wondering if there were any I didn't know about. You don't like Blue Bay?

      1. re: Jennifer

        Where's Blue Bay?

        1. re: Tatyana

          Its on Johnson right down the street from Palace of Japan. Have you ever tried the Indian restuarant on Johnson?

          1. re: Jenny

            I've tried the Indian place on Johnson and it was horrible. I mean, it was just glop on a plate - argh! I never went back.

            1. re: Tatyana

              Ugh, thats too bad that it was horrible. I have eaten at Josephinas a couple times and liked it. However, I do not like Bellavista. I do want to try Madison's, is it worth it?

              1. re: Jenny

                It's OK, not mind-shattering. Go when you feel too lazy to go anywhere else.

        2. re: Jennifer

          Anybody been to Palace of Japan since they renovated the place? I stuck my head in earlier this week and it's beautiful. I haven't eaten there in a long time, because I long time ago my husband and I decided we liked Planet Tokyo better. I was kind of curious as to if they had redone the menu along with the decor.

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          Palace of Japan
          3505 Johnson Ave, Bronx, NY 10463

          1. re: BronxBree

            I was there this week. It is very beautiful. Unfortunately, the food hasn't changed. The prices are a little higher (someone has to pay for the renovation). There are a few new items on the menu. It also much noisier now.

            1. re: aunteejoy

              I completely agree. I love the decor, especially the giant majong board in the enterway (but isn't that game played more in China than Japan?). The food was pretty decent, but pricy, so I think I'll stick to Planet Tokyo, at least till it gets warm out again and they open up those doors to the street.

              1. re: ron

                The food at Palace of Japan is still not authentic Japanese, the Yakiudon was pretty bad and tasted like LoMein with udon noodles. The bar is beautiful, so maybe good for a sushi roll and some miso and a drink, but I wouldn't do dinner there. We did lunch and were glad it was only lunch. Sushi Mikes in Dobbs Ferry is still the best around here to me.

        3. re: Tatyana

          Aside from "fine dining" -- what about those Jewish delis? I was up there visiting a friend and I saw the menu for one that had "mini hot dogs in a puff pastry" for .40cents each. Sounded like exactly what the chow doctor ordered -- but it was closed for yom kippur.

          1. re: yoonique

            I used to work in the area as well. Warning -- Siam Square is only open for dinner. I found that out the hard way. Also, I felt that Tazmohol was much better than Cumin (though everybody talks about Cumin). You should definitely try El Malecon for their chicken and mondongo. And I totally agree with you about Piper's Kilt -- they always prepared my burger to perfection.

          2. You can try Jake's Steakhouse down on Broadway. I've only been there once, and while the porterhouse wasn't Luger's, it was acceptable. If you're willing to go slightly out of Riverdale, there's Ya Hala on Broadway just north of McLain up in Yonkers.

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            1. re: Justin Burk

              My husband tried Jake's and said that it was good, but too expensive.

            2. my husband and i like josepina's (italian) on johnson. their linguine with mussels is pretty good. just stay away from "lobster night" lobsters—they tasted pre-cooked and were rubbery...

              has anyone been to the new(ish) kappock cafe? we got their takeout menu under our door recently and it looks nice...

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              1. re: Nancy

                The Kappock Cafe is nice and pretty good. I have taken out from there and the food is good and very nicely priced. I recommend trying it.

              2. Although not techincally riverdale (kingsbridge I guess) you should try malecon on broadway right by 231st street. It has delicious rotesserie chicken. The roast pork I had once wasn't bad either but you should stick to the chicken.

                don't go on weekends,it was jammed!

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                1. re: MissToodles

                  In that same area I like to get delivery/takeout from Caridad (230th & Bway). Good cuban sandwiches, roasted chicken, plantains, & mofongo. I'm less of a fan of their rice & beans (not as good as La Caridad down on the UWS).

                2. I live around the corner from the Kappock Cafe and have picked up takeout there a number of times (mainly because there's not much else nearby). The club sandwich was pretty good (with real roasted Thanksgiving type turkey) and came with fries, and the prix fix lunch specials are a good deal too. But I ordered a turkey mozerella panini one night (which was suposed to be hot and include roasted red peppers, and basically got a dry turkey sandwich with fresh mozerella and tomato (no roasted peppers to be seen) on a hogie roll that was cold. It was tolerable, but not worth the $7 plus I paid for it and it didn't come with fries or chips or even a pickle.

                  1. Riverdale dining is pretty bleak. We have now been living here for close to 6 years and have been generally underwhelmed. However, there are a few bright spots. Becco Fino, on Mosholu is pretty new, is quite good and is reasonably priced. It's owned by the same people that own Madison's and Park Place. Madison's, though expensive is good. Our single experience at Park Place was not a good one. We have heard very good things about Nonna Tony's, but our experiences have not lived up to the hype. Kappock Cafe, Cafe Bleu and The Place are all owned by the same guy. None of them is great. On the surface, Riverdale Garden should be good, unfortunately, we haven't been impressed and the prices are very high. Blue Bay is the best bargain around, the portions are huge but the food is only mediocre. For sushi, we go back and forth between Palace of Japan and Planet Tokyo. I don't believe there is much of a difference. The rest of the Asian restaurants are barely adequate. For some reason, we have only eaten at Josephina's once, though we did enjoy it. Haven't been to Jake's, but we do enjoy Riverdale Steak House. Finally, Liebman's is always reliable for deli.
                    Though not in Riverdale (not even the Bronx), but reasonably close, are 2 very good spots that we enjoy - Park Terrace Bistro and Garden Cafe. They are practically next to each other on the west side of Broadway, just north of 207th.

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                    1. re: aunteejoy

                      Good notes, with which I basically agree.

                      We recently ate twice at Beccofino, and found it to be a very good neighborhood Italian restaurant (although with Arthur Ave's outstanding bakeries a few minutes away, they could easily serve better bread!). Riverdale Garden is inconsistent; occasionally excellent, but just as often not worth the prices. Leibman's is fine for a deli fix. Definitely agree on Park Terrace Bistro (French-Moroccan) where I recently had a delicious lamb shank stewed with prunes and almonds. Haven't been to Garden Cafe.

                      On Asian, I'd note that J.Jade's on Johnson offers good dim sum (makes a nice lunch), and that Siam Square on Kappock St. is consistently good Thai with some interesting twists (check the specials), and their salads (esp. the beef salad and the watercress salad) make good summer meals. Also, as I've posted on Chowhound before, if you're in the mood for old-school "Cantonese" dishes, Golden Gate on Johnson makes the best Chinese-style spareribs I've ever eaten (and that's a lot of ribs!) as well as good eggrolls, wor shu op, lobster cantonese, etc; just don't bother to order anything not of that era or you'll be disappointed.

                      Finally, the Riverdale Diner just south of 238 and Broadway makes a decent bacon cheeseburger and classic diner breakfasts. It's better than Kappock Cafe or any of the diner-type places on Johnson for that kind of food.

                      1. re: Striver

                        Riverdale Diner has gone downhill recently. For burgers, I'd recommend Piper's Kilt. Much better. Also, River City Grill on Riverdale Ave and 235th makes a good burger.

                        Definitely agree on the ribs at Golden Gate, but I wouldn't eat anything else there.

                        1. re: aunteejoy

                          Sorry to hear that the Diner has gone downhill but even without that, you're right on the better burger - I forgot about Piper's Kilt! River City Grill also has decent wings and a good deal on them (and well drinks) during "happy hour".

                          As for Golden Gate, you might try the lobster with burnt pork (which the NYT touted a year or two ago, and which is excellent, but best if eaten at the restaurant rather than delivered). As for the rest of the menu - I grew up on the bland and/or gloppy dishes of 50's outer boro Chinese food, and when the craving occasionally hits me, Golden Gate does that just fine (which I understand does not appeal much to anyone not of that era), but the restaurant does not - and here we agree - do well on the more contemporary items on the menu.

                          1. re: aunteejoy

                            piper's kilt is excellent as is the riverdale diner (238th and b'way). for the best chinese food, go to ya mei up on sedgwick. caridad is horrid.

                        2. re: aunteejoy

                          I am going to chime in and say that I have really grown to dislike the Garden Cafe. Details in my post on Inwood dining here:

                          http://www.chowhound.com/topics/472475

                        3. I generally agree with the comments. But I find Cumin (the Indian on Johnson Avenue) acceptable, and I have had two way above average meals at Park Place. I think all the Italians on Johnson are boring, although Beccofino was good the one time I was there. Also disagree with the Riverdale diner assessment...I think its gotten better (although I prefer Blue Bay).

                          1. My husband and I tried Piper's Kilt and it was great. Good burgers, cheap beer and a fun atmosphere. Has anyone tried the brunch? I'm curious about it. My husband and I have been to Siam Spicy twice and it was awful both times. The second time we went it was a Wednesday, which features free all-you-can drink wine, and after a few glasses of marginal white wine, the food was still bad. Service was really slow too. The pizza place next door is awful too. Great Wall (at the top of the hill near Ben's Market) is pretty decent cheap Chinesse takeout. Otherwise, it's better to just hike down the hill to Broadway, where things are a little bit more lively. Malecon is great, huge portions of Cuban/Dominican food and eventhough they got my order wrong, it was still great. Try the chicken with peppers and onions and fried plantains. And you can't go wrong with the roat chicken. Mr. Magoo's bar nearby is fun too. On Riverdale Ave. try Salvatores of SoHo for great pizza.

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                            1. re: BronxBree

                              Many years ago I dated a girl from 233rd St off of B'way, A bunch of us use to go to the Pipers Kilt for brunch on Sunday, They offered all you could drink bloody mary's (YUMMY) pitcher of beers or a screw driver or mamosa. they offered the basic brunch items burgers omlets eggs benidict so on, we would get there around 11:00 am /12:00 PM and leave at 3:30 4:00 pm full and toasted they would serve you as long as you were eating and at the table we became regulars OH HOW I MISS the PIPERS KILT

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                              Piper's Kilt
                              170 W 231st St, Bronx, NY 10463

                            2. whew! that was passionate! mostly accurate. I can't agree, however with Park Place. I've had two meals there in the last six months which were fine from appetizer through entree. I think the steak there is the best non-steakhouse meat I've had in a long time. (it has a lovely char)and my wife loved the paella. I thought the steak at Jake's was less than mediocre.

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                              1. re: neddludd

                                I agree with your assessment on the Paella in Park Place...it was actually very good and cooked to order, so on that I stand corrected..I still feel the food used to be better than it is now but the Paella is very good.

                              2. Of the Latin restaurants - which do you think has the best Cubano sandwiches?

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                                1. re: aunteejoy

                                  I really don't think the Cubano's are that great up here...I guess the Economico would be the best (on 231), but for a really good Cubano, go to either 136th or 138th and BDWY on the downtown side on the corner in Manhattan...its a restaurant that specializes in Cuban sandwiches I just can't remember which of the two blocks the restaurant is on, but you will know which block it is when you see the restaurant..

                                  1. re: gremlin608

                                    Went to Economico last night. The Cubano was not so good - no pickles or mustard, big hunks of pork rather than slices, served on a sub roll and not pressed. Not what I was looking for. We also had sweet plantains that were soaked with oil and a whole chicken that was just okay. Not such a great experience.

                                    1. re: aunteejoy

                                      Sorry to hear about your experience in Economico...I haven't been there in awhile, but after hearing what happened when you went, we won't be trying it again...I really don't like the latin american food in Riverdale, which is actually Dominican food, in general the chicken at Malecon was good the last time I had it but everything else there was terrible. There is a place on Westchester Ave (other side of the bronx near parkchester) named Joe's Place that has great, authentic Puerto Rican food...other than that I just usually cook it at home.

                                      1. re: gremlin608

                                        Too bad Parkchester is on the other side of the earth!

                                        The Latin options in Riverdale are bleak. I agree 100% that the pollo a la brasa at any of the El Malecon chains is the only thing worth getting there. Everything else comes from the steam table; and even their rice and beans is insipid. That being said, their whole chicken is excellent.

                                        If I want a good Cubano (sliced pork shoulder, bolo ham, swiss cheese, thin pressed bread), I head down to La Floridita on 125th and B'way, which isn't too far.

                                        Riverdale is a lesson in bad and mediocre restaurants. Diners here either drive to Westchester or go elsewhere in the Bronx (Arthur Ave./East Bronx) for authentic, quality food. Liebman's and The Bagel Corner are all we have, people.

                                2. I'm new to the area but I found tht the Hunan Balcony on Johnson Avenue and Salvatore's of Soho on Riverdale Avenue offer above average Chinese and Italian cuisine. Just look for where the "Boys in Blue" from the 50th precinct eat and you won't go wrong.

                                  1. I love Siam Square on Kappock. I don't drink the wine, but I think that their very spicy duck is so great! Everyone I meet loves it there, and I've had mostly fine service.

                                    1. J Jade Dim Sum Cafe on Johnson is terrific. Dim Sum aside (which is quite good) they have a board of specials with some pretty adventurous stuff. Also, the staff is very warm and friendly. It certainly isn't the most attractive place in the world (but then what Chinese restaurant is.) If you like interesting and innovative food (they do normal fare well too) give them a try.

                                      1. The Riverdale Diner is a trip and also the Greek Diners are very good if you like a feta cheese omelet and your boyfriend beside you chowing down on the hash browns

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                                        1. re: marlie202

                                          The Riverdale Diner is a one-way trip to the land of horrible food. It hasn't been edible in 20 years.

                                          The Greek diners? Gee, that really narrows it down.

                                          1. re: nobody special

                                            OK so what are your recommendations? Anyone can pan any place but to do so without giving recs is terrible.

                                            1. re: RichK

                                              A few things:

                                              1. I offered recommendations. Please read the thread.

                                              2. Furthermore, I diasgree with your position. If I disagree with a review, which I vehemently did because the Riverdale Diner is just God awful--they can't make toast for goodness sakes, I have every right to voice my dissenting opinion in order to help readers make an informed choice on whether or not to dine there. It's done all the time. It isn't "terrible" not to include a recommendation. Avoiding a bad restaurant is progress, however slight.

                                              3. I've never panned a place before and perhaps my post sounded a bit harsh, but, believe me, it's warranted.

                                              1. re: nobody special

                                                you say the riverdale diner has not been edible in 20 years, but when was the last time you were there? they were totally renovated 1-2 years ago, and the wuality has improved measurably. as for neddludd, even though i enjoy their food, i've never liked delivery from the riverdale diner. food arrives cold and soggy (especially fries, but that's common...i've never gotten good delivered fries) so i'd advise you to check it out in person for a better than acceptable meal.

                                                1. re: madrigalq

                                                  Oh. I haven't been there in 2-3 years and didn't know the food quality had improved since then. Now this makes a lot more sense. Years ago, it was a running joke amongst Riverdalians just how BAD the food was. The service--or lack of it--was also laughable. Your waitress used to serve you and then vanish.

                                                  1. re: nobody special

                                                    I happened to eat there this weekend, this morning as a matter of fact, and the breakfast was delicious. Both my wife and daughter enjoyed theirs too.
                                                    My daughter, who lives in the area, eats there often says the burgers are good. We also ate dinner last night at the Santa Fe Reataurant and enjoyed it very much, The food was freshly made and tasted good and we were very pleased.
                                                    Believe me, I know it is not "gouret food" but it was very good.
                                                    We also stopped by Mother's Bakery on 236th between Johnson and Oxford and we were overwhelmed by the variety and quality of the baked goods there.
                                                    So for all you who knock the Riverdale area, please go out and see what's out there.
                                                    Especially you, nobody special, who haven't been there in a few years.

                                        2. Last week my wife took our one car and left me and my kid with a pacity of delivery options. I ordered a bacon cheeseburger from the Riverdale Diner and found it acceptable.

                                          So I disagree with your review...I find most of their food...acceptable.

                                          Personally, I prefer Blue Bay for diner food.

                                          1. Well, I still live in Riverdale, and we all talk about the low level of food available, but if you really want a first rate cake go to the corner cafe. They make the best caramel cake and mocha cake and lots of other stuff really made right in back.

                                            Their food is good, but the service isn't!

                                            I am not kosher, but along with the excellent dairy cakes, they even have very good non dairy cakes for those of you who may be allergic (or eating a meat meal of course). I cannot say enough about their cakes.

                                            Mothers is the usual old time bakery stuff, and after you've eaten in the now closed (for many years) Katz's bakery in Liberty NY, no bakery measures up.

                                            Blue Bay diner has great REAL turkey sandwiches, but that is all I've had there, and as for the Riverdale diner, after 40 years of living here in the area, and still eating there occasionally, I can say with confidence that it stinks.

                                            1. Wife and I visited our daughter in Riverdale over the weekend and she and one of her roommates wanted to go to the Santa Fe Grill on Broadway Saturday evening. It was surprisingly good.
                                              The 3 ladies each had a different enchilada, one was chicken other chorizo and the other beef. I had a chicken breast dish with refried beans and rice. We ordered some appetizers and everything was good.
                                              Sunday morning we ate at the Riverdale Diner. Breakfast was great, huge portions, daughter had 3 pancakes that were enormous, wife had the cheese blinzes andf i had the standard eggs over easy with home fries.
                                              We then went to Mother's Bakery and loaded up on some ckaes and rolls and bread and headed back to VT content with how the weekend played out.

                                              1. Fiance and I visited Kappock Cafe and Wine Bar for an early evening meal. We were surprised not to be provided a Wine Menu along with the Dinner Menu. House salad was tasteless and we have a strong suspicion that the gnocci was microwaved.

                                                Carpaccio arrived without shaved parmesan as described on the menu. I've been a waitress and recall odd moments when items like three large slices of cheese were missing from an appetizer and have turned back to the kitchen before serving the incomplete dish.
                                                It wasn't too busy for the waitress to have noticed the not there cheese. We thought perhaps the waitress might have been new and unfamiliar with the menu, but other patrons came in and greeted her by name with warmness.

                                                We did order coffee, which was refreshingly good.

                                                1. This is not surprising and is indicative of both this restaurant and Cafe Bleu, which are owned by the same person.

                                                  1. Despite the fact we live on Kappock, my husband and I have stopped ordering takeout from Kappock Cafe. It's overpriced and marginal at best. I'm not a huge fan of Santa Fe either. We've eaten there a few times with mixed results. The food is OK, but the service can be terrible. At our last visit, we were promptly seated by the hostest and a waitress brought us water and chips and salsa right away. But she never came back. After going through our basket of chips and water without someone so much as asking for our drink order, my husband flagged down the hostest and complained. She sent someone over, but we didn't so much as get an apology. Try Montezuma's in Kingsbridge. The neighborhood is a little dodgy, but the food and service are pretty good. Decent margaritas too.

                                                    As far as the other stuff up the hill from Kappock, the Thai place and pizza place are awful, but Great Wall is OK for takeout Chinesse and is open late.

                                                    On a positive note, we've become huge fans of Piper's Kilt in Kingsbridge and eat brunch there almost every Sunday. The food is pretty good, but it's the staff that makes the place wonderful. They're friendly and attentive and we never have to ask for a refill (brunch is all-you-can drink). My only complaint is they need better stuff on tap. On the flip side, the P&K in Inwood offers lots of great stuff on tap, but their food (same menu) is awful and most their staff should be fired .

                                                    My husband likes Planet Tokyo for sushi and we've had decent, but not great, Italian meals at Josephina's and Peppino's on the days we've craved it but been too lazy to head to Arthur Ave. Salvatore's is our pizza place of choice. Nona Tony's is OK for pizza. They screwed up our order (left off all the toppings and gave us just a cheese pizza), but did get it to us within an hour on New Years Eve, so we weren't going to complain. Their crusts are kind of weird though. Their perfectly circular and appear to be premade.

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                                                    1. re: BronxBree

                                                      What beers does P & K have on tap?

                                                      1. re: MVNYC

                                                        The one in Kingsbridge has I think Bud, Bud Light, Heinken and St. Pauli Girl, while the one in Inwood has the same stuff, plus Guiness, Smithwicks, mabe Harp and at least one other. Prices are pretty cheap at with places. Again, though I admit the one at 231st St. isn't as cool of a building, the staff is great and we've never had a bad meal there. On the other hand, at the location in Inwood, unless you sit at the bar, you may have to beg someone to get you a beer and the food is terrible. We'll go back when we're in the neighborhood for drinks at the bar, but my husband and I will stick to 231st St. when it comes to food.

                                                    2. Agree on the Kappock Cafe. Went there once; that was enough. OTOH, totally disagree on Siam Square. I've eaten at many Thai restaurants in the city, and excluding places like Sripaphai or Wondee, it's fine; better for eating there than delivery, though. For Italian, try Beccofino up on Mosholu Ave; I think it's the best of the neighborhood Italian spots.

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                                                      1. re: Striver

                                                        Ditto on the Thai delivery and Beccofino...Beccofino is the best Italian around, only Arthur Ave gets better in this area of the bx.

                                                      2. If you like the Kilt in Kingsbridge, I would totally recommend the Pipers Kilt down @ 207th/B'way. @ least the health dept hasn't closed their doors lately ;) seriously I like the atmosphere @ the Inwood location a little better. Plus right outside the A train -- great location. If I'm driving i'll hit the Kilt in K'brigde, If busing it or on the train i'll almost always hit 207th.

                                                        Riverdale Steak House & Salvatores Soho 'Za. I like Cuman Indian - but then again it is the only Indian food in town.

                                                        Best Sandwich Deli -- I enjoy grabbing a hero to bring home while waiting for the 7 bus @ Cold Cut City on 231st/Godwin.

                                                        I'm still looking for real good chinese food. I will check some of the places mentioned.

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                                                        1. re: gripja

                                                          Aside from the spareribs at Golden Gate (and other dishes from the retro sections of the menu ONLY) and the dim sum at J.Jade's (which offers a limited but pretty good selection), the other local options are uniformly mediocre. For delivery, we order from the Empire Szech on 170th Street in Washington Heights. They deliver to Riverdale, and while not great (and the wait for delivery can be long), they're consistently better than anything in the nabe. Try their "regular" orange flavor beef (NOT the crispy gloppy stuff - be sure to tell them which one you want) and ask them to make it hot.

                                                          Cumin is decent northern Indian and - as you said - the only local option; they do make a chicken liver & poori app that I really like but like anything involving poori, it's not worth having delivered. In fact, like Siam Square, Cumin Inn's food is definitely better eaten there than delivered.

                                                          1. re: Striver

                                                            I agree with most of the comments: Cumin, Salvatore's, Beccofino...
                                                            But I'm curious why no one mentions Park Place on Moshulu off Broadway. I've had some very good meals there, although the last time I was there it was half empty, seemed tired, and a bit depressed.
                                                            Of course, Liebman's for decent corned beef sandwiches...
                                                            Also: What about The Riverdale Garden? That's supposed to be better than decent, if not overpriced for the neighborhood. Never been there.
                                                            Finally: Going to a play tonight around St. Mark's Place and First Avenue...any recommendations for East Village?

                                                            1. re: Striver

                                                              I really dislike Cumin. There's actually another North Indian restaurant in the neighborhood. Actually, it's in Kingsbridge, near Piper's Kilt. It's called Tazmohol, and it's on 231st between Albany and Bailey. They also have free delivery. It's pretty sad but I never see anybody in that restaurant. He told me that he has been open for six months. Perhaps there isn't enough interest in the Kingsbridge community to support an Indian restaurant.

                                                              I've only eaten there once, but it was much better than Cumin. I was there for lunch. Less than six dollars buys you a pappadum with coriander, onion and tamarind chutneys, a choice of appetizer (chose vegetable samosa -- a bit greasy, but otherwise good), a curry (lamb saag is what I ordered) and kheer (a bit too thick for my taste). Not the best Indian food when you compare it to the likes of Chola, but much better than Cumin.

                                                              Caveat: I've requested them to make my dish extra spicy.

                                                              1. re: Miss Needle

                                                                I’ve only tried Tazmohol’s lunch specials when I’m on vacation or on holiday because it’s Mon-Friday. On the weekends, after seeing how crowded Pipers Kilt is, we go here and no one is there. I hope they stay in Kingsbridge. Their food is good. I’ve told my neighbors about this spot as well.

                                                          2. I think Siam Square is VERY good. Especially the spicy duck. It is one of the tastiest ducks I have ever had.

                                                            1. Fiance and I visited Siam Square for an early evening meal. We love Thai and were pleased to find that this restaurant did not disappoint. Service was good and our meals were tasty. Not as good as Thai food downtown, but definitely worth a second visit and more.
                                                              A friend and I grabbed a couple of slices at La Pizzeria next door to Siam Square and they weren't bad either. They were white slices of chicken and vegatable that we had sauce added to. The sauce was well spiced and the pizza was fresh.

                                                              What does everyone think of Josephine's on Johnson?

                                                              1. In light of all the positive comments on this board about Siam Square, my husband and I decided to give it another try last week. I still don't like it. I had the basil chicken, which I guess was OK, but not very spicy. He had some kind of shrimp curry, which he said was OK too. Service was slow but OK. Maybe I'm just really picky about Thai food, because I've had so much of it that's been great. I hit my favorite place in Manhattan for lunch yesterday, just to remind myself what great Thai is suposed to taste like. On another note, we also tried Yokohama on 238th. I don't eat sushi, but my husband loved his. he liked it better than Planet Tokyo, which is where we usually go. My shrimp teriaki was overcooked, but he really wants to go back, so I'll try something else next time. Service was good. We didn't need a lot from out server, but the people at the other table weren't very educated about sushi and he was very patient in explaining all the diferent kinds of rolls and cuts of fish to them. We ate at Beccofino last night for the first time. It was OK, reasonably priced, but didn't wow me. I had cheese ravioli and my husband had the chicken beccofino, which was a lot of food for the money. Given the choice, I'd rather trek out to Arthur Ave. for Italian, but it was really cold last night, so taking the bus up there was about all we wanted to deal with.

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                                                                1. re: BronxBree

                                                                  Tried Yokohama last night on the basis of this point and was disappointed. The server was new and inexperienced and was not familiar with the menu or sushi. The miso soup was watery and flavorless. My sashimi was served ice cold when it should be room temperature. Sitting at the table behind us were a group of what I believe were Manhattan College students of questionable drinking age doing "sake bombs". The noise and the banging on the table was extremely distracting.

                                                                  We won't be back...

                                                                  1. re: aunteejoy

                                                                    Sorry to hear you had a bad experience there. I'll keep that in mind next time my husband wants to head there. Like I said, I don't eat Sushi, but I think its probably one of those things that's contingent on who's working. Same thing kind of goes for service. My husband lived in Japan for a while and is pretty picky about sushi and he still says he liked there's.

                                                                    1. re: aunteejoy

                                                                      I wish we had read your post more carefully before venturing into yokohama. Ditto on the miso, service & sake bombers. Also, the spider & eel/avocado rolls which arrived long after our sushi platter (ordinary at best) were nearly inedible. Plus the industrial lighting & radio tuned to oldies made the ambience nearly as disappointing as the food.
                                                                      We too will not be back...

                                                                  2. I disagree with all of you who have a negative opinion toward Kappock Cafe & Cafe Blue. I go there at least 3 or more times a week and love it. I practically never get tired of the food and the waiters and waitresses are so friendly ( probably because they know me so well by now). I always order my thanksgiving turkey from there and it is delicious. The chicken milanies is great, almost all of there steaks are great, and pasta... and i couldn't forget about there desserts which im told are from Bindi which is high quality. other resturants i enjoy are also Salvatores of soho, Hunan balcony, and the sushi resturant to the left of Don's Jewlers ( sorry i forgot thename).

                                                                    1. I have been eating at Riverdale Diner for 10 years. I have seen the ups and downs. Right now it is in a up..a swift up beat swing. the food is fast, good, warm, and the service is great. I must admit on weekends it gets really packed. but when they tell you we will have a seat for you in 4 minutes, trust me your seat will be there in 4 minutes.
                                                                      They have extended their menu to include portion controlled food, Sapnish food..the bacalo guisado was on the money. And a better cubano sandwich then I have had at the local spanish cuisine rests.
                                                                      And I foudn a fix for the guys bad toast..ask them to butter it. they will. Ask and you shall recieve.They even have multi grain breads and fresh onion bread for the paninis..Not big bakery bought bread.
                                                                      The place is clean and 905 boothes.
                                                                      I love it now.
                                                                      You can work and they leave you alone
                                                                      you can bring big parties or small. Youll always have a booth.And their specialty salads are to die for
                                                                      the mediterrainian beef slad with citric viniagrette is low carb and calorie and tastes as fresh as a tree pulled fruit..
                                                                      And they have bustello, go figure..with mangu and chorizo..and longaniza..i could not believe it..Its every rest in the Riverdale area rolled into one..
                                                                      Even asian food.
                                                                      As for blue bay..Every time I go the food is cold. I know they have the best turkey I hear people talk, but I never get it in its best mode at my table..
                                                                      what can I do to change that..

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                                                                      1. re: aslay

                                                                        Recently there's been a change in management. It is a vast improvement. The service has been excellent, and not a diner in the area.

                                                                        1. re: aslay

                                                                          If you want turkey, I suggest you go to Leibman's.

                                                                        2. In defense of Siam Square, I lived in Bangkok, and I would say that it is quite authentic. I realize, of course, that authentic may not always be the same thing as good in the minds of those who prefer Thai adjusted for the American palate. The one concession they make to the clientele in the neighborhood is that they tone down the spice. But if you look on the menu, they offer you the option of ordering higher heat-levels, up to and beyond what you would get in a typical Bangkok eatery. If you want to make the server smile, ask for "pet mak" which means very spicy in Thai; but don't do it unless you are prepared for some serious heat.

                                                                          I would also put in a plug for a Mexican place in Bedford Park. Not Riverdale, I realize, but nearby. It is called Las Maravailas de Mexico, and it is on the north side of Bedford Park Blvd right near Jerome. Not much to look at, and I wouldn't sit too near the jukebox--which has a habit of going on at random intervals--but the food is cehap and really good. The cecina tacos and the chicken breast in chipotle sauce are remarkably tasty.

                                                                          1. Tibbetts Diner. Check it out for "homemade cooking".

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                                                                            1. re: kermitmail

                                                                              I was at Tibbetts Diner once and found it scary dirty.

                                                                              1. re: aunteejoy

                                                                                So did I and the food wasn't great either. BTW, the recent posts about roaches and such prompted me to check out the city health department Web site. It's a great info resource and very easy to use. http://home2.nyc.gov/html/doh/html/ri....

                                                                            2. I live in Riverdale and after a long work day I often find myself eating Mexican food at the Sante Fe located between Burger King and Jack's on Broadway. The food is good, the prices low, the owners kind and the waitresses find a place with enough light if I wish to read.

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                                                                              1. re: bbqs

                                                                                I agree on Sante Fe. We went there with our daughter and her roommate (both attending grad school at Manhattan college) and found the food to be very good and not that expensive.

                                                                              2. When I first moved to Spuyten Duyvil / Riverdale in 2004 from the upper West Side, I was comforted by the sight of a Hunan Balcony and by the restaurants at Knoll's Crescent that were within walking distance. I've tried many spots for delivery and eating in person, and I have the following observations:

                                                                                CHINESE:
                                                                                - Riverdale Noodle Shop, 36 W 238th St, ABSOLUTELY THE BEST in the area, hands down. The quality of the food is far superior to anything else. Surprised no one else mentioned it.
                                                                                - Nam Thai: Yes, it's sad but true, but the number 2 Chinese is a Thai/Vietnamese place right on Johnson Avenue.
                                                                                - Hunan Balcony: A real disappointment. They barely make the effort to produce edible foods. A pale shadow of the original on 98th and Broadway.
                                                                                - J. Jade's: Definitely something different, I stopped ordering when what was delivered became too inconsistent and delivery time slowed. Worth another try for dim sum I think.
                                                                                - Golden Gate: Good for a retro trip with Spare Ribs and killer Lobster sauce, but I suspect they do not have enough business to stock fresh ingredients.
                                                                                - Great Wall: If you are in a pinch and don't mind the grease, go for a quick combination dish, but don't think of ordering in from here for guests. Place is filthy as well, but not as bad as others in Kingsbridge.

                                                                                JAPANESE: I only order Sushi, and have not eaten inside of any of these.
                                                                                - Tokyo (formerly Planet Tokyo) is pretty consistently good and fresh, and fast.
                                                                                - Palace, based on limited sampling, is ok, but since it seems to share ownership with a Chinese place, I don't trust it.

                                                                                PIZZA: Based strictly on what shows up in the box when your order.
                                                                                - Goodfellas: 238th Street. The best most consistent Pizza made in the regular New York / Neapolitan style. Con: uses Bermuda onions on the pizza.
                                                                                - Little Italian Village - Knoll's Crescent & Kapock: Sometimes ok, but not very inspired or consistent. Seems like they make their best business from the after school crowd.
                                                                                - Nona Tony's - 235th Street - Very good place, Pizza is very, very thin, and delivery can take awhile. Great Sandwiches!

                                                                                DINERS:
                                                                                Tibbet Diner: Can't beat the atmosphere of this tiny gem on Tibbet between 230th & 231st. Food is OK, and satisfies, nothing to brag about.
                                                                                - Blue Bay: Generally an ok choice for consistent, if forgetable diner food. The atmosphere is positively geriatric. Good for eavesdropping on someone else's mother / grandmother for laughs.
                                                                                - Kappock Cafe: Hard to classify this place. Best advice is treat it like a Diner, don't order from the exotic side of the menu and you will not be disappointed. Burgers (not the best), tuna melts, Salads (better than average), Pastas with fresh ingredients. Don't come expecting a wine menu!

                                                                                THAI:
                                                                                - Siam Square has the best food (Thai food that is!), but is closed on Mondays, and occasionally they answer the phone and say they can't deliver.
                                                                                - Nam /Thai, Second place for Thai, Second place for Chinese, and First out of 1 choice for Vietnamese specialties. Always consistent with whatever cuisine and reliable delivery.

                                                                                INDIAN:
                                                                                - Cumin: More than a glop on the plate as other Hounds observed, but nothing to rave about either. Everything is well prepared and fresh, although somewhat similar to each other. Stay with the basics and you will be satisfied.

                                                                                DOMINICAN:
                                                                                - El Malecon: As you step off the 1 train at 231st street, only the stuffiest of stuffed up noses could prevent you from inhaling the garlic infused aromas of the chickens roasting on the spit in the window of this branch of El Malecon. Enter and assert yourself with the various countermen, they'll remember your order without writing anything down. Walk out with a whole chicken, beans, rice and steamed vegetables for $15 and enough to feed 3 or 4 people.
                                                                                - El Economico: Broadway & 231st (across from El Malecon) Try your luck. It really depends on what's cooking and available that day.

                                                                                JEWISH DELI:
                                                                                - Leibmans: 235th Street, Got all the stuff you remember and crave, and it's fresh and good. Knishes, Hot Dogs, Chopped liver, pastrami, toungue, pickles, stuffed derma. It's good for what you crave.

                                                                                - Ben's Meat-o-Mat: Knoll's Crescent, while not a deli per se, this home grown mini market makes fresh prepared foods every day and can serve up a great deli sandwich during the day.

                                                                                - Loesser's: 231st Street: Very Scary looking. Never, ever seen a customer in there. Has anyone out there eaten something there and lived to report on it??

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                                                                                1. re: jonepner

                                                                                  Personally i do not like Nam Thai at all, although i do like Siam Square, but there is one thing I want to say about the Japanese restaurants in Riverdale....

                                                                                  I know for a fact that (Planet) Tokyo is owned by Chinese. i have heard them speak Mandarin, and they all figure that caucasians do not know the difference anyway. I still like their food, and I also like Palace of Japan, which is owned by Chinese. In fact, EVERY Japanese place in Riverdale is owned by Chinese. Yokohama too. How do i know? Because I discussed it recently with a bunch of Chinese friends. And they do know! And I also speak a little Mandarin. And every place has that Chinese good luck cat in the front!

                                                                                  The freshest stuff I've had is from the Japanese place across from the food emporium, also owned by Chinese . I figure that it is possible for anyone, if they do it right, to make good food. Totally authentic or not, so if my Japanese food can't be totally authentic, it can still be fresh and good!

                                                                                  As for Loesser's, I have eaten there, and i lived, but it does look a bit unsavory. I know the rents down there are pretty high, and since kosher stuff is expensive, I have no clue how that place is still in business all of these years, although my pastrami on club with mustard was just like any other Jewish deli.

                                                                                  1. re: jonepner

                                                                                    FYI - Little Italian Village (which I never liked anyway) has become Ray's Pizza (doesn't appear to be related to the Ray's places in Mahattan) . I haven't had a chance to try it yet, but it's been pretty busy when I've been out walking my dog in the evenings. They added a new awning and sign, along with a slate floor. Looks like they're going to paint too. The place really needed a makeover, but I'm interested to see if the food's improved as well. For what it's worth, it certainly smells good from the sidewalk and there's a lot more on the counter as far as slices, pinwheels, pizza rolls, etc. than there used to be.

                                                                                    1. re: BronxBree

                                                                                      I went 2 weeks ago. The regular pizza isn't great, crust is soggy, just not good. But I did try the speciality pizza with bruchetta and black olives and artichokes and fresh mozzarella and was pleasantly surprised. My father and husband who are the pizza experts say the regular pizza is God awful.

                                                                                  2. Riverdale-ite since 1967 (how depressing). The area has never, in all my time, drawn a "destination" restaurant. So many mediocre neighborhood places have come and gone. Pleasing choices are Josephinas for Italian, Liebman's for classic, dangerous, artery killing deli (but not "best of") and Blue Bay, where Alex has been giving out very large portions and excellent fries (when warm) for god knows how long (but as a diner it is not as good as the ones on Long Island). But go to Mother's Bakery- not because it is the best, but because the stuff is pretty good and tastes the same as New York kosher bakery foods tasted to your parents, before cupcakes became a "designer" item.

                                                                                    1. We discovered a new place this evening - Sqweez Joose Bar. It's on 238th St. east of Riverdale Ave. It's a very small place specializing in smoothies and Middle Eastern food. The smoothies are quite good. We tried the Falafel and Kufta Kebab as well as lentil soup and a rice dish.. Both the sanwiches came rolled in flour tortillas instead of pita and then lightly grilled - which I happen to prefer, the tortillas are moister than pita and don't dry out. The menu is small, only a handful of items - shwarma, home made soups, hummus, babaganoush, salads, etc.

                                                                                      The place is very small, only about 12 seats or so. The owner told us they do a big late night business with the students (they're across the street from the dorm next to Godfather's pizza).

                                                                                      They are open in the morning at 7 and serve omelette wraps and smoothies, close mid-day and then open again in the evening. This was a very nice, if accidental, discovery!

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                                                                                      1. re: aunteejoy

                                                                                        I agree with the critique of Barbecue Pit. Its the only restaurant in Riverdale that does take out well. Excellent comfort food, great pot pies and chickens and ribs and salmon and sandwiches. And wonderful Indian specials as well!!! We get take out from there about once a week and its definitely reasonable. If you haven't done so, try it you won't be disappointed.

                                                                                      2. I just looked at the Chowhounds site for the first time in a year or two and, skimming the posts on Riverdale Restaurants, was surprised not to see mentioned "The Barbecue Pit" on Mosholu Ave. (a little more than a block west of Broadway). This small, informal restaurant in Northern Riverdale is a real find. The food is excellent, including the homemade soups, the fish dishes, and vegetarian main and side dishes. Don't let the name "Barbecue Pit" fool you - you can get delicious salmon and catfish and I've brought my vegetarian sisters-in-law here and they loved it. This is the kind of place where, once you’ve discovered it, you keep coming back. They are closed on Tuedsays. It's a small, family run place and I would suggest calling first if you are making a trip as they occasionally close on other days (718) 601-2400.

                                                                                        Please don't count on a reply from me to posts as I do not know whether I will be checking this board too often due to my busy schedule - which includes cooking my delicious organic veggies from my C.S.A. program - but that's another topic altogether :-)

                                                                                        1. So far my wife -- who is in the wine/food industry -- and I -- who loves to eat food -- have searched for the best Riverdale has to offer. New Leaf Cafe in Fort Tryon Park and Riverdale Garden is where you want to dine if you want upscale meals. Everything else in the area is poor to mediocre. Decent chinese and Thai and so so Japanese on or near Johnson Ave. No real good pizza anywhere near here. Nonno's Tony's is not good pizza. It is not even made with homemade dough - most likely frozen, factory bought bread. You are seriously better off ordering from one of those pizza joint, regular take out stuff, or better yet, traveling to Arthur Ave or Kingsbridge area.

                                                                                          1. Agree with posters that Riverdale Diner is inconsistent (usually bad, but sometimes does good Dominican dishes) - however, the other day I had their Irish breakfast and it was huge and good, full bangers instead of the two little disks and the eggs cooked correctly. Also, try Peppino's for their calamari fra diavolo, chicken marsala, and Peppino's Special pizza (they also make vodka sauce correctly, with pancetta - usually). J Jade rocks for dim sum.

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                                                                                            3260 Johnson Ave, Bronx, NY 10463

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                                                                                            1. re: py00

                                                                                              update - Peppino's under new management. not nearly as good as before, although if the new one is doing other dishes better, please alert the board.

                                                                                            2. I have lived in Riverdale a long time. Lieberman's used to be a deli, not a facsimile. If you want deli, the nearest good deli is Artie's on 83rd & Broadway. Blue Bay is fine for large portions of tasteless food, but it will be inexpensive. The Chinese restaurants in Riverdale as a whole are mediocre and for the most part the pizza is too. Oh to remember Angelo's in its prime. Sam's pizza on 231st St. was recently bought & the people there are making a very respectable slice or ;pie, not fancy, but thin crusted with good taste. Beco Fino's is very decent, not exciting, but they use veal that is not chewy & their quality is above average. The Garden Gourmet across from Staples on Broadway has presentable salads & sandwhiches with a good assortment of fruit, veggies, olives and cheeses. The best assortment of borderline gourmet in the whole area. They even have Bell & Evans chickens at a fair price. That ends the good places to eat in Riverdale. Go to the Dinosaur on 131St., MaxSoha or Kitchenette on Amsterdam and 123rd St. Toast on Broadway & 125th St. and the pasta plce on Lasalle isn't too bad either. Please bring Starbucks to Riverdale, not for the coffee, but for the sandwiches!

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                                                                                              1. re: Hondo3777

                                                                                                Angelo's! If you went there a lot we undoubtedly know each other by sight. That was the last real restaurant to exist in the area. Teddy really cared about what he was putting out- he had an old world European cooking sensibility. When I last spoke to him many years ago he was still heartbroken that the place had to close and he was going to open something in NJ.

                                                                                                1. re: Hondo3777

                                                                                                  I lived in Riverdale from 1976 to 1981 and Angelo's had perhaps the best pizza I've ever tasted (if ordered with extra cheese). They used to deliver to me at Hayden on the Hudson and they had loose Haagen-Dazs, when it wasn't available in supermarkets. Talk about decadence--pizza & Dazs! I also enjoyed eating there in the main section as well. They treated you well and the food was quite good.

                                                                                                2. Jenny,
                                                                                                  I've been living in Riverdale for 7 years now and to tell you the truth, there are not interesting places to eat at all in the area. Despite what you may read below about a few good places here and there, they are not worthy, specially if you are in a site like this looking for some input. Some folks may find them ok, but if you are on this site, chances are you may not be interested in what Riverdale has to offer. There is really nothing to explore. I have not been to a single restaurant in the area that makes you want to come back. Whenever I am in the mood to eat out I just grab my car and drive 20 minutes to midtown or downtown. It is totally worth it.

                                                                                                  1. I'd stick to Johnson Ave. 1. Hunan Balcony 2. Siam Square. Think family, think neighborhood comfort food, think casual atmosphere, and you should enjoy yourself. Agree with most of what is posted here - the Japanese places are questionable. Siam is pretty darned tasty and has most of the staples. I disagree with one of the posts here on Hunan Balcony - I think the one in Riverdale is actually superior to the one in Manhattan - food's fresher, dining room is nicer. In any case, both of these places are better dine-in experiences. Real friendly peeps.

                                                                                                    1. I'm a long-time Inwood resident that moved to Riverdale a few weeks ago. I'd agree there's a dearth of good dining--there are places that are decent enough if you live in the area, but nowhere that's a destination.

                                                                                                      We've been remodeling the kitchen and have been eating out in the area of the 1 stop at 242nd St. for a month or so now. Here are a few impressions:

                                                                                                      Jake's Steakhouse: Decent steak and sides but vastly overpriced in relation to the quality. Anything priced this close to Lugers needs to be better. And needs to clean up their act--according to their latest inspection they have the most violation points (46) in the 10471 zip code.

                                                                                                      Sante Fe Grill: So many neighbors recommended this place, but I was underwhelmed. To me is was well-plated take-out Mexican. But I'll try it again--maybe it was just a bad night.

                                                                                                      Riverdale Diner: I liked this place a lot. Good Cubano (wasn't pressed, but I can deal), great battered fries, prompt and friendly service, nice slaw and pickles to nosh on. Not sure I'd get any of their many $25 entrees, but good for a diner.

                                                                                                      Short Stop: How can you argue with a $3 complete breakfast including coffee? I can overlook a lot if the price is right and the food is tasty and hot, and I liked the vibe of this place, which was packed on Saturday morning.

                                                                                                      El Malecon: Same great food as the other outposts, but seems less busy (I frequented the one at 176th and Broadway).

                                                                                                      Riverdale Rotisserie: Decent roasted chicken, nice variety of wraps, good meat-and-three type plates. Not as good as El Malecon, and a bit more expensive.

                                                                                                      Since so many posters seem to travel out of Riverdale for good food, I'll throw in a couple of places in Inwood that I like a lot:

                                                                                                      809 Bar & Grill, 112 Dyckman St New York: Incredibly good upscale Dominican/Caribbean food. Low-priced pitchers of sangrias to die for. Worth a trip.

                                                                                                      Garden Cafe 4961 Broadway bet. 207 Street & Isham St.: Their $14 hangar steak is one of the best deals in NYC. Excellent quality, well-prepared food, good prices, nice staff. Much better food than the overrated Park Terrace Bistro next door.

                                                                                                      And a shout-out to the Kilt. One of the best burgers anywhere, especially since McHales closed in Midtown.

                                                                                                      Thanks to all the posters in this thread--I have lots of places to try now.

                                                                                                      : )

                                                                                                      Jamie

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                                                                                                      1. re: picaman

                                                                                                        >>Sante Fe Grill: So many neighbors recommended this place, but I was underwhelmed. To me is was well-plated take-out Mexican. But I'll try it again--maybe it was just a bad night.

                                                                                                        Must have been a bad night before. We gave Santa Fe Grill one more shot, and it delivered. Very nice carne asada, endless chips and salsa, $4 magaritas, and live music on a Friday night. The food was plated differently and more generously. Hopefully this place just had one bad night and isn't just inconsistent.

                                                                                                        1. re: picaman

                                                                                                          At least you got $4 margaritas. Must of been a special that night. I've generally paid $7, which is pretty standard, but they weren't that good. That said, I do keep going back.

                                                                                                          1. re: BronxBree

                                                                                                            We got there during happy hour which ends at 7PM -- I guess they extended the price for the entire dinner. On a third visit, we arrived after 7PM and paid $7.

                                                                                                            1. re: picaman

                                                                                                              Thanks. I'll keep that in mind next time I head up there. :)

                                                                                                        2. re: picaman

                                                                                                          cold cut city on 231st and godwin terrace, their italian hero could play ball with anyone's in the five boroughs.

                                                                                                        3. Anybody try the new Pioneer Chinese restuarant on 231st? The menu is huge and the place has been pretty busy when I've been waiting at the bus stop, but I haven't had a chance to stop by yet.

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                                                                                                          223 W 231st St, Bronx, NY 10463

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                                                                                                          1. re: BronxBree

                                                                                                            which bus stop - east or west of broadway?

                                                                                                            1. re: aunteejoy

                                                                                                              West. Over by Popeye's and across from Cold Cut City.

                                                                                                              1. re: BronxBree

                                                                                                                Finally made it to Pioneer. Got a ton of food for around $10. I want to try it again and sample a few more items before I give it my total blessing, but it was pretty good. My husband pronounced the hot and sour soup as some of the best he's had. The chicken dish had all white meat (though it was shreaded so it was kind of hard to gage the quality). Veggies were crisp and fresh. Egg drop soup was unremarkable, but when is it ever? I already like it better than Great Wall on Knolls Crescent.

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                                                                                                                19 Knolls Crescent, Bronx, NY 10463

                                                                                                          2. After living in Riverdale for 10 years, my husband and I finally tried La Caridad on Broadway today, and have to say it was really fun. Good food, lively surroundings, not expensive. We watched the Mets while he chowed down on delicious lentil soup followed by an exemplary pernil sandwich overflowing with tender pork (only $5). I enjoyed well-prepared shrimp in garlic sauce with copious sides of rice and beans ($16.95), and we shared a plate of tostones. With a beer and a glass of wine our entire feast came to $38. Service was attentive and we would go back there again in a minute.

                                                                                                            1. I haven't been on the board for awhile...but I wanted to let everyone know about the extremely disappointing meal I had at Cafe Blu this week. I will start with the owner. When I showed him that my spoon was dirty he tried to tell me it was dishwasher spots, and when I insisted it was dirty he took it somewhere (presumably to the kitchen) and brought it back out...with the food crud still on it. When I asked for another spoon he had the worst attitude and only when I scraped the food off of the spoon with my nail did he concede and actually get me another spoon. Now for the food. My mother ordered Salmon with risotto...very dry overcooked salmon, and the risotto wasn't risotto...it wasn't creamy and tasty, it was overcooked mushy regular rice. I ordered rigatoni with tomato basil and ricotta...I kid you not, I was presented with some rigatoni mixed in what tasted like bottled sauce and to top it of a HUGE glob of polly "o" ricotta was lumped on top of the bowl of pasta, freezing cold and not even melted in. My father's cappellini was mushy, and my fiance's gnocci was definitely the type that you get out of the bag from the supermarket and the alfredo sauce tasted like the "Burtoli" one you get in the dairy isle in the container. The best part of the meal was the garlic bread...Stay away. On another note, went to blue bay for the first time for dinner in about 7 years and the broiled garlic chicken was very good considering it came from a diner.

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                                                                                                              1. re: gremlin608

                                                                                                                I just was looking for restaurants int eh Bronx and came across this - I just had to add a comment: Sounds like place Gordan Ramsay should be visiting - (8->)

                                                                                                              2. I'm starting to love Nonno Tony's... I've tried 3 different dishes(delivered) and thought the were great.
                                                                                                                Pipers Kilt's burgers are great, but the steak sandwich is my favorite.

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                                                                                                                1. re: BoboBx

                                                                                                                  We have been to Nonno Tony's a few times and have not had a meal that we would consider great. I'm always surprised that it is so crowded. Beccofino is a much better option for Italian.

                                                                                                                  1. re: aunteejoy

                                                                                                                    Not really Italian, but there are Italian influences at Josefina's and they have a really good bar menu!!! I would venture to say the best bar menu in Riverdale with a great vibe and good wines by the glass.

                                                                                                                    1. re: aunteejoy

                                                                                                                      Yikes!! I was a RELIGIOUS patron of Beccofino until the day they opened up until October of this year. I first noticed around mid-October that their pappardelle bolognese tasted differently and their other pastas were more goopy than usual. The decline in the pappardelle was a bad sign because it was such a simple dish but OUTSTANDING in its simplicity. Now it tastes boring and wierd.

                                                                                                                      What I loved about the food at Beccos was that they didn't fall into the trap of being a suburban italian place that drowns their pastas in sauce. The food was delicate and had different interesting flavors on their regular menu and in their specials.

                                                                                                                      The incident where i almost lost my mind was when my husband ordered risotto.. which used to be a standard great item on the specials. It was SWIMMING in goop. that is NOT risotto.

                                                                                                                      I also noticed that their longtime manager has since left since around the same time the food started to (i hate to say it).. kind of suck.
                                                                                                                      I don't know if it's a coincidence.. but she certainly did have a taste for good food.

                                                                                                                      This turn of events has completely bummed me out as beccos used to be the place we would go to celebrate.. or to bring our friends and family to show off our great neighborhood italian restaurant. I'm sure it won't stop hurting for customers since it is still probably the decentest of all North Riverdale restaurants. I'm just sad to say we lost our one really good restaurant to mediocrity.

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                                                                                                                      5704 Mosholu Ave, Bronx, NY 10471

                                                                                                                  2. For lunch Corner Cafe is good if you're not in a hurry, and they do very nice takeouts/desserts for a crowd (wraps, fish platters, salads, pastas, cake, chocolate mousse). Nathan's Kosher Meats on 235th is good for prepared foods to go (fried chicken cutlets, roast chicken, brisket, split pea soup are excellent, reasonably priced & he delivers). None of which solves the out-to-dinner problem, but at least you won't starve.

                                                                                                                    1. Best take out is BBQ Pit. Everything else in R-dale sucks. I know, been here 10 years. Thankfully there is Fresh Direct -- and a car to drive to midtown.

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                                                                                                                      1. re: neptuno3

                                                                                                                        While on the topic of barbecue pit... I agree that it is some of the best-prepared food to be found in Riverdale. The barbecued chicken, rib tip sandwiches, turkey meatball subs, samozas, these are just some of the dishes that will please the carnivore in us. The chef makes heavy use of curry and other Indian spices, giving her dishes a signature flavor. Last, but not least, it is pie season at barbecue pit. Pies can be pre-ordered. I would vouch that one of the best key lime pies to be found anywhere in the metro area comes out of this kitchen.

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                                                                                                                        Barbecue Pit
                                                                                                                        5788 Mosholu Ave, Bronx, NY 10471

                                                                                                                        1. re: otis77

                                                                                                                          Surprisingly the best samosas I ever had! BBQ Pit is underrated. I have to try their pie next time!

                                                                                                                      2. The "new" Greentree(259th and Riverdale Ave.) is up and running. I have gotten some mixed reviews so I will try them and report back. For those Park Place fans...bad news, The owner of this restaurant is opening a place in Woodlawn and he has no time/money to reopen Park Place anytime soon.

                                                                                                                        1. Riverdale Gardens was a fine restaurant. Unfortunately they just closed their doors.

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                                                                                                                          1. re: gordoma

                                                                                                                            Just talked to the owner, who said they tried and failed to work out a lease deal. They hung on till Valentine's Day then closed. They're looking to reopen - maybe there, maybe elsewhere - if they can raise some dough.

                                                                                                                          2. Riverdale's still lacking in restaurants but here are a few favorites here and nearby;
                                                                                                                            Riverdale steakhouse(259 st), Piper's Kilt(231St),Sams Pizza(231St) La Estufa(215 st & B'way) & F & J Pine (bronxdale & Matthews av's )

                                                                                                                            1. Does anyone have any information on what used to be Peppino's? I haven't been in but it looks like they are under new management.

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                                                                                                                              1. re: aunteejoy

                                                                                                                                No news on Peppinos but it does seem like it's become a Latino restaurant (by the heading on the restaurant)...by the way does anybody know about the new Greentrees? Is it good or is it as bad as the one before? I'm still sad about Riverdale Garden. No other "special occasion" spots in Riverdale to speak of...now we are forced to Westchester or the city. Also an fyi I went to Palace of Japan a couple of weeks ago, still not authentic Japanese, the Yakiudon tasted like lomein.

                                                                                                                                1. re: gremlin608

                                                                                                                                  I don't think Greentree is new, just renovated.

                                                                                                                                  1. re: gremlin608

                                                                                                                                    So, I was wrong about Greentree. Decided to give it a try and see what the story was. The original owner sold to his son-in-law. He shut down for 6 months and renovated. It looks really great. The menu has been updated with some more modern dishes along with some of the traditional standards. The service was attentive and friendly. We had Chicken Pot Pie and Wild Mushroom Risotto. Both were quite nice. If the food and service remain consistent, I may have a new favorite restaurant in Riverdale!

                                                                                                                                    1. re: aunteejoy

                                                                                                                                      I went to Greentree, we sat in the bar which has been redone quite nicely and had a great meal! We liked it too. A little far (since we live on Kappock) but glad to have another choice. We had the steak sandwich and meatloaf sandwich both very good. We will be back again for a second try!

                                                                                                                                    2. re: gremlin608

                                                                                                                                      My wife and I used to go to Peppino's all the time so we were very surprised by the sudden change, but we figured something was going on with Peppino's because we noticed that since January 2007, the food quality was really taking a nose dive. It's now called La Cueva de la Amistad (It translates to Amistad's cave). She peeked in the other day and described it as a "sports lounge" type of vibe. They've got tall bar tables and chairs and there are flat screen tvs everywhere. We thought some of Peppino's old staffers might have bought the place out, but she did not recognize anyone there.

                                                                                                                                  2. My mother is celebrating her 80th birthday on Saturday, July 19th. I would like to take her to a good restaurant in Riverdale, NY. Does anyone have any suggestions? I was told that Nonno Tony's is good however it did not get good reviews. I am not familiar with the area so any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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                                                                                                                                    1. re: felicia6566

                                                                                                                                      Nonno Tony's is not all bad, don't order the pizza. The pasta dishes are usually good. The specials are usually the best bet. If they have fiorentino pasta on the board, get it.

                                                                                                                                    2. Just ate at X2O Xaviars on the Hudson - just up Riverdale Ave across the border in Yonkers. Excellent food, excellent views up and down the hudson river. Not cheap, but one of the best places I've been. Definitely the best place I've been to outside of midtown.

                                                                                                                                      There is a little bit of a Yonkers waterfront revival going on in that area, with a nice boardwalk and a couple of bars with outdoor seating. Not exactly in Riverdale, but 3 minutes away.

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                                                                                                                                      1. re: david10471

                                                                                                                                        I agree. we had a really good meal at x2o,

                                                                                                                                        1. re: foodislife

                                                                                                                                          Anyone have any ideas??

                                                                                                                                          We have the job of getting a caterer for my wonderful mom in laws birthday.

                                                                                                                                          The place we are renting is a big nice auditorium in the Bronx, close to where she lives and where most of her friends are. It has a nice large kitchen in it, and it is near the Riverdale Kingsbridge area (so westchester caterers are ok too.)

                                                                                                                                          We'd like a good brunch. Bagels, lox, fishy stuff, great cake and pastries, an omlet station, and
                                                                                                                                          I know this post doesn't reflect it real well, but we'd like something kind of interesting if possible. If that isn't possible, it should at least be good and high quality.

                                                                                                                                          If you've got a different idea for food, I'd be interested in that too! There will be 40-50 people.

                                                                                                                                          Thanks!

                                                                                                                                          1. re: foodislife

                                                                                                                                            Try the Perrenial Chef in Bedford Hills NY

                                                                                                                                            1. re: RichK

                                                                                                                                              thanks. I'll give them a call

                                                                                                                                              1. re: foodislife

                                                                                                                                                I believe they are closed this week. You might want to call next week. 914.666.6523

                                                                                                                                                1. re: RichK

                                                                                                                                                  I cant believe you guys are complaining when you have the best chinese in the boro in Golden Gate. The ribs are sublime, the shrimp toast melts in your mouth and their lobster specials are outta this world. They just renovated this place to boot and it looks amazing now. Im surprised nobody else appreciated this gem that blows away King Yum and could give Lums of Flushing a run for thier money in its heyday!

                                                                                                                                                  1. re: fcara

                                                                                                                                                    Are you talking to me? I answered regarding a catering question not a restaurant recommendation. I have eaten at Golden Gate several times when my daughter was at Manhattan College. It was some of the best Chinese American food I have ever eaten. But no where near the best true Chinese food.

                                                                                                                                                    1. re: RichK

                                                                                                                                                      Some of the food is good, (ie ribs),but all the veggies and most dishes taste the same... bland...And their service is non-existant.

                                                                                                                                                      Food perfect for the no salt or spice crowd.

                                                                                                                                                      1. re: lsashin

                                                                                                                                                        Golden Gate is fine for retro-Chinese-American food ONLY. If you're looking for a 50's flashback (like Lum's of Flushing, where I grew up), Golden Gate has great spareribs (and I mean consistently excellent), solid eggrolls, and does a good job with dishes like Lobster Cantonese, Wor Shu Opp, egg fu yung, etc.

                                                                                                                                                        OTOH, if you're looking for anything post-1960 (e.g., like the variety now available in Flushing where Lum's is long since gone) or spicy to any extent, this is NOT the place to go.

                                                                                                                                                        1. re: Striver

                                                                                                                                                          Lum's vs. Golden Gate=hilarious comparison to me as a Riverdale boy who married a Flushing girl (you Flushing people act like it's the whole world and the rest of us live in a suburb of Flushing). Would hate to break it to my mother though but Lum's was better by a mile.

                                                                                                                                                          1. re: addictedtolunch

                                                                                                                                                            Hey, I'm a Flushing girl that married a Riverdale guy. Must be something to it. And yes, the world did revolve around Flushing - back in the day.

                                                                                                                                      2. Anybody try the new eat-in version of Jasper's down on Riverdale Ave. yet?

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                                                                                                                                        1. re: BronxBree

                                                                                                                                          Yes, I did.

                                                                                                                                          The food is fine (we had pastas, not pizza), but it's not a warm comfortable experience. The room is cavernous, loud and not warm and inviting. There is constant take-out traffic that adds to the frenetic feeling.

                                                                                                                                          I heard the pizza is different - thinner crust.

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                                                                                                                                          3555 Riverdale Ave, Bronx, NY 10463

                                                                                                                                          1. re: aunteejoy

                                                                                                                                            My husband and I ate at the new Jaspers about a month ago. It was OK. Like Aunteejoy said, don't sit by the door, it's cold. I image it'll be real nice though in the summer when they open up those front windows and seating spills out onto the street. The food was pretty decent. We had a very nice bruchetta appetizer. My husband ordered a shrimp pasta that was pretty nice for the money, though a bit salty for my tastes. I had baked stuffed shells. Though they told me not to touch the plate because it was hot, it wasn't baked long enough to make it warm in the center or even melt the cheese on top much. I actually had to send it back. When they brought it back, it was positively molten, which was fine by me. The owner came out to apologize.

                                                                                                                                            The service was very friendly and nice, but really slow. The waitress said they weren't expecting so many people (every table was full and it was Saturday night, plus there were lots of takeout orders going out) and the kitchen was backed up. She was sincerely apologetic and offered us free slices of pizza, which we would have taken her up on but we had a ton of food coming. The owner also came out to apologize for the slow kitchen too.

                                                                                                                                            As of when we ate there, they had no licence to sell alcohol. I'm not sure what the status of that is now. They did give us each a free glass of wine with dinner, which was a nice touch. Red sauce pasta is one of the few things that I absolutely need a glass of wine with.

                                                                                                                                            All in all it was a decent experience. Though loyal Salvatore's customers, we'll order a pizza at some point because though a bit pricy, those pies looked good. We'll be back for more pasta at some point too once the kinks in the kitchen get banged out. For what you get, and the absence of alcohol, it's a pretty affordable night out. If they're not going to get a licence to sell wine it would be nice if they made the place BYOB like Salvatore's, because when it comes to pasta they're a notch above Salvatore's.

                                                                                                                                        2. Haven't been on the board for awhile...But Siam Square never disappoints! We went tonight and it was wonderful as usual...we are spoiled to have such good Thai down the block from our house.

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                                                                                                                                          1. re: gremlin608

                                                                                                                                            I totally agree.

                                                                                                                                            It may not be the most authentic Thai in town, but dishes are well prepared, sometimes (particularly the specials) imaginatively so, with influences from other cusines. Ingredients are fresh, food is not over-sweetened, and service is warm and attentive.

                                                                                                                                            1. re: Striver

                                                                                                                                              Yes, Siam Square rocks I have never had a bad meal there either. Pad Thai and Massaman curry is awesome.The only people I know that didn't like that place were my in-laws. My in-laws are from Chile and first trip to America, right off the plane, we took them to Siam Square...They weren't used to the sweetness of the pad Thai and didn't like it. They put on a brave face though! Its amazing how taste buds from different other cultures vary so widely. I love Siam Square and I would recommend it to anyone. Another place right over the border in Yonkers on Mclain ave called Tum Raa....best Thia food I have ever had (and I have been all over Manhattan, Brooklyn , etc.). service stinks however.

                                                                                                                                              1. re: rbiv5

                                                                                                                                                Tum Raa is better than Siam Square???? Alot better? Worth driving instead of walking down the block better? I've stopped eating Thai in Manhattan altogether because Siam is that much better...The Riverdale restaurant scene continues to be boring I must say...but I went to Jaspers for lunch last week and was pleasantly surprised. Their pasta and pizza are much better than Salvatores of Soho up the block on Riverdale Ave and you can order delivery on line (though I haven't tried that yet)...

                                                                                                                                                1. re: gremlin608

                                                                                                                                                  Does Jasper's have a beer/wine licence yet? I ate there when they first opened and they didn't, but were giving away free glasses of OK wine with entrees. The pasta I had was fine, but I've been meaning to get back for pizza.

                                                                                                                                                  I'm still not wowed by Siam Square, mainly because I think it's overpriced especially for the Bronx, but it's worth walking a block on a weeknight. I'm going to hit that place in Yonkers. Thanks for mentioning it.

                                                                                                                                                  1. re: BronxBree

                                                                                                                                                    Not sure on the beer/wine license...we went for lunch on a weekday so wine wasn't on our minds at that point...:-) if it was a dinner I would've had some first hand knowledge about the wine issue for you. Yes Siam has raised their prices, but FWW (short for Free Wine Wednesday) is worth it even though the wine is pretty crappy...after curry with a spice level of 3 or 4 you can barely notice the bad wine. Pls let us know about the place in Yonkers. I'm interested in hearing about it and maybe taking the drive up.

                                                                                                                                                    1. re: gremlin608

                                                                                                                                                      I've been back to Jasper's. Pizza for takeout is excellent. I've always liked Salvatore's but Jasper's is a cut above. San Marazano tomatoes and a super thin crispy crust with a nice bit of char to it. On the downside, my husband and I ate in there last night. It was pretty dead for a Friday. The veggie lasagna was awful and so was the pasta with panchetta and peas. We were pretty unhappy after having OK pastas a few weeks after they first opened. I think this place is going to replace Salvatore's as our go-to pizza joint from now on, but we'll pass on the pasta. You can get better stuff for similar prices on Arthur Ave. Even Nonna Tony's on 235th is better for the basic stuff. As far as wine goes, they'll still give you the free glass if you ask and you can BYOB. Two different people have told me that license is coming "soon."

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                                                                                                                                                      554 W 235th St, Bronx, NY 10463

                                                                                                                                                      Salvatore's of Soho
                                                                                                                                                      3738 Riverdale Ave, Bronx, NY 10463

                                                                                                                                                      1. re: BronxBree

                                                                                                                                                        Wow! The spaghetti and meatballs were pretty good for lunch. Sorry to hear the pasta was so bad for dinner. Good to know. We went to Josepinas for dinner last night and had pasta, it was quite good. Better than Nonna Tony's and they made their menu less expensive. Arthur Ave (depending where you go) still has some great Italian. Roberto's new pizza spot ROCKS!

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                                                                                                                                                        3522 Johnson Ave, Bronx, NY 10463

                                                                                                                                                2. re: rbiv5

                                                                                                                                                  based on positive reviews of Siam Square, we tried the little gem tonight. very glad we did. warm attentive service. cannot wait to go back for another bowl of the divine 'tom yum koong' soup seasoned with lemongrass and lime juice in a spicy, but not too spicy, shrimp broth. delectable appetizer of 'crepes' with minced seafood and herbs. next time we go back, will have to try the 'award winning' papaya salad. how did we miss that? ended with a light, refreshing and not overly sweet coconut mousse. however beware of strict vigilant parking meter 'maids.'

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                                                                                                                                                  564 Kappock St, Bronx, NY 10463

                                                                                                                                                  1. re: rufeen

                                                                                                                                                    Totally agree. Siam Square continues to be an exceptionally good neighborhood Thai restaurant with continually surprising specials that fuse a wide variety of cuisines, sometimes to outstanding effect. Their regular Thai dishes are always tasty, the vegetables fresh, and the spicing adjusted to taste. The relatively new "street food" menu gives a nice choice of small plates to share in lieu of apps (one night we made an entire meal of the smalls). I can't vouch for the "authenticity" of the food, but it's consistently very good to excellent, and the service is always warm and welcoming.

                                                                                                                                                    If you haven't been here, it's definitely worth a try - for our money, it's the best restaurant in Riverdale and would be a good one just about anywhere.

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                                                                                                                                                    564 Kappock St, Bronx, NY 10463

                                                                                                                                                    1. re: Striver

                                                                                                                                                      Agree, I'm still a huge fan of Siam Sq...their street food menu is very cool as well...this and Jake's are the only 2 restaurants worth really going to in Riverdale if you don't live here...other than that we Riverdalians are forced to deal with a culinary waste land.

                                                                                                                                            2. Just say No to Nonno Tony's. They screwed up my pizza threeout of four times and then would''t admit their mistakes. Plus, the owner/manager is a bully. I don't know how these guys stay in business.

                                                                                                                                              1. Gleeson's Sports Bar & Grill is a great place to grab comfort food and a drink. They also have great salads + the seafood cakes are to die for. It's def a place to check out!

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                                                                                                                                                6115 Broadway, Bronx, NY 10471

                                                                                                                                                1. Anybody who goes to Golden Gate must try the butterfly shrimp, an endangered dish.

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                                                                                                                                                  1. Good news everybody! Foodies/beer lovers in the Riverdale/KIngsbridge area have a new restaurant worth trying. It's called the Bronx Ale House (http://www.bronxalehouse.com) and it's on 238th a couple doors down from S&S toward the Major Deegan.

                                                                                                                                                    It's a very cool space. Exposed brick, beer barrels, lots of flat screen TVs. There are 16 different beers on tap (all fairly high-end with Guinness being the most mainstream, there's a list on the Web site), plus a cask ale offering and about 35 different kinds in bottles (including the usual Bud and Miller offerings). For non-beer drinkers there's a full bar and a couple wine selections. The beer prices are a little on the high end for the neighborhood but the offerings are more Manhattan like (kind of like the Half Pint or Blind Tiger without hipsters). Guinness was $6 a pint, while a pint of the Blue Point Hoptical Illusion cask ale (which my husband said was very good) was $6.50. A small bottle of Chimay was $8.50, I think. And it came served with the appropriate glass, which is something I never thought I'd see in a place like Riverdale. They've also started a beer club where if you sign up you get discounts and your name on the wall if you drink 100 different beers. A sign outside advertised $4 drafts before 7 p.m.

                                                                                                                                                    As for me, I'm currently pregnant, so going there last night and settling for a soda was kind of torturous, but I wanted to at least try the food. It's pretty much upscale pub grub. I had a bacon cheeseburger ($9.50) that was cooked perfectly and had a huge ammount of super crispy bacon on top. On the flip side, the fries that came with it were hand cut and like a lot of hand cut fries suffered as result, being overcooked in some spots and raw in others. For an extra $1 you can upgrade to sweet potato fries or beer battered onion rings and I think I might do that next time. My husband had the steak sandwich ($10.50, I think), which was served on a toasted garlic roll and he liked it very much. Both orders were also supposed to come with spicy slaw which never showed up, but I hate coleslaw so I didn't ask what happened to it. There are a couple other items I'd like to try including a hot brie cheese and boch beer dip served with pretzel bites and a pulled pork sandwich.

                                                                                                                                                    The place is not huge and was packed Friday night with Yankee fans watching the game and drinking everything from Bud to Leffe. The ladies room was spotless. The service was pretty good and seemed to handle the craziness well. Our bartender/server was very friendly, didn't give me grief about ordering a mocktail and didn't charge me for my second one. I just hope this place can keep the momentum going. Even if the food wasn't any good it still would be a great addition to the neighborhood and shows there might actually be some hope for food in Riverdale.

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                                                                                                                                                    1. re: BronxBree

                                                                                                                                                      BronxBree...Thx a million for the report...we saw the ad in the Press, and were very excited, and our guys (husband, father, grandfather) LOVE beer so we are going to recruit them to see what it's about...Is the wine selection decent? Congrats on the upcoming addition to your family :-). When I get down there (won't be for at least a month) I will report as well.

                                                                                                                                                      1. re: BronxBree

                                                                                                                                                        I've been back twice since my initial visit and just wanted to update my comments a bit. As far as the french fries go, they've improved considerably and were cooked perfectly on both of my return visits, so please ignore my previous comments about them. I also tried the beer battered onion rings last time and they were pretty tasty too. Can I hope for a hat trick with good sweet potato fries? I'll probably try those next and find out. Also, my husband really liked the German-style "burger" with beef and pork and he's happily filling up his "beers of the world" sheet.

                                                                                                                                                        The bartenders are still awesome (thank you guys so much!) and work their tails off on the weekend. It's been crazy busy every time we show up. They were nice enough to put my husband's college football game on one of the TVs too, eventhough I'm sure it wasn't of huge interest to most of the other people there.

                                                                                                                                                        On the off chance somebody from the Ale House reads Chowhound, I have one tiny little request. Could a hook be installed inside the ladies room? The floor is always spotless, but it still would be nice for us to be able to hang up our bags when we go use the facilities. And has anybody thought about serving brunch on the weekend? The place would probably make a ton of money on bloody Mary's and eggs (especially during NFL season) and it probably wouldn't involve a lot of extra work for the kitchen staff.

                                                                                                                                                        1. re: BronxBree

                                                                                                                                                          We finally made it to the Ale House for lunch...Great beer selection, too bad they don't brew on site. Terrible wine (ok it's an ale house). Cool scotch eggs concept though a little over cooked, pretzels were kind of soggy and not very tasty. The wurst (sausage) appetizer ROCKED! Bartenders are really really nice, and it's a really cute, cozy, comforting neighborhood spot...we would try it again, however on the weekends it tends to get a little out of hand (DH and Father tried to go on a Friday and it wasn't as inviting).

                                                                                                                                                          1. re: BronxBree

                                                                                                                                                            Just wanted to recommend the fairly new Greek Express on Riverdale Ave. I think it's where Jasper's used to be before they opened their new location. I had lunch there a few weeks ago and had dinner delivered tonight. Both times the food was hot, fresh, tasty and reasonably priced. For lunch I had a falafel and Greek lemon chicken soup. The falafel was freshly fried and surrounded with romaine lettuce, red onion and tomato. I'm a big fan of Greek chicken soup and this was pretty good by my standards. Lots of dill and chicken pieces swimming in a lemony broth. A little too salty, but I still ordered it again tonight without hesitation. Tonight I had a chicken souvlaki sandwich, french fries and more soup. The sandwich could have used a little more meat, but what was in there was seasoned well and moist. My husband ordered a a gyro platter, which he enjoyed too, especially the little Greek salad that came with it. The french fries we both had held up pretty well, considering we had the food delivered. I have no complaints about the delivery either. The food came fast, hot and intact and the man who brought it was very nice. The restaurant itself is very small, but nicely decorated. Overall, it's a great addition to the neighborhood and I imagine we'll be ordering a lot from this place in the future.

                                                                                                                                                            1. re: BronxBree

                                                                                                                                                              I second the post on Greek Express...A huge welcome to the culinary wasteland known as Riverdale! The spreads are wonderful, so is the beet salad, and the moussaka and gyro's. Spanikopita is the only thing that was a little soggy.

                                                                                                                                                              1. re: gremlin608

                                                                                                                                                                We stopped in on Saturday to pick up some spreads. They were fresh and tasty (eggplant salad, chickpeas, feta with spicy peppers), the warm pita provided was very good, and the guy running the place was friendly and helpful in explaining what they offerred. We'll definitely be trying their other dishes.

                                                                                                                                                        2. Riverdale must have the largest number of bad residents per capita in the world. Only a few restaurants are worth the money, and none are worth making a trip here for.

                                                                                                                                                          Jake's is great at lunchtime but overpriced for dinner. They also have a small but excellent selection of beer on tap. Salvatore's of Soho is very good for what it is, a family pizza and red food place where you can bring your own wine or beer. The Blue Bay Diner and the Jade Dim Sum Cafe are both way above average. And that's it.

                                                                                                                                                          When we eat out we usually end up on the Upper West Side or Arthur Ave. We're thinking of exploring the new places in downtown Yonkers.

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                                                                                                                                                          1. re: BernieBX

                                                                                                                                                            Check out whatsUpRiverdale.com for menus in Riverdale

                                                                                                                                                            1. re: BernieBX

                                                                                                                                                              We moved into Riverdale about a year and a half ago, and the dirth of good eating establishments is amazing. I read on this list about the Barbeque Pit, sounded good and we love barbeque, so we tried it, What a disappointment. I have had ribs in a dive on the "wrong side of the tracks" in Springfield, Missouri, all over NYC, in Florida, San Francisco, etc., and these were some of the worst. Nothing but a tomato based sauce, and the sides were even worse. Stay away.

                                                                                                                                                              If your looking for some good restaurants in Yonkers, check out Belle Havanna, X2O, Zuppa Restaurant & Lounge, all on or near Main Street.

                                                                                                                                                              1. re: slikpapa

                                                                                                                                                                The dearth of good eating (and that extends beyond restaurants -- the supermarkets/grocery stands are subpar, too) . . . there really aren't words to adequately describe how lousy the food scene is in Riverdale. And the sad thing is that in the eight years we've lived here, it has probably gotten worse, not better.

                                                                                                                                                                1. re: District 10

                                                                                                                                                                  What do you think of the newish Greek place? ... http://www.chow.com/digest/42247/a-we...

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                                                                                                                                                                  3733 Riverdale Ave, Bronx, NY 10463

                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: squid kun

                                                                                                                                                                    Fantastic Food. Head and shoulders above anything else in the neighborhood for the level of quality as compared to what we might have been used to in Manhattan or Brooklyn.

                                                                                                                                                                    Sometimes they get so busy that they stop answering the phone, that's my only complaint.

                                                                                                                                                            2. Any updates on the Restaurants in Riverdale?

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                                                                                                                                                              1. re: janmaltby

                                                                                                                                                                we talk about some on https://www.facebook.com/riverdale.bu...
                                                                                                                                                                But to be truthful, it is a facebook page to promote businesses, so you might not always get a full review, but you will get some ideas about what is going on in Riverdale and the surrounding areas.

                                                                                                                                                                1. re: janmaltby

                                                                                                                                                                  My husband and I tried Metate, (the new Mexican place at 3515 Johnson Ave. where M&M Kosher Bakery used to be), the first week it was open. It was OK. I just don't think they were really to handle the starving hoard of Riverdale residents that quickly decended upon the place. I plan to try it again soon once they get established. I had the green chicken enchiladas. The quality of the chicken inside wasn't great and they put too much of that bland white cheese on top, (which wasn't completely melted), but the green sauce on them was great. They were out of rice, but the refried beans they gave us were fine. The chips and salsa they bring you are pretty good. The salsa is unremarkable, but the chips were freshly fried and they kept bringing more. We ordered the guacomole, which for $10 at dinner wasn't worth the price. It was just kind of bland, but appeared to be freshly made. I wanted a tamale, but they didn't have any. The waiter said they expect to get their liquor license in a couple months, but this is NYC so I'm not holding my breath. The food would be a lot better if I had a margarita to go with it! The service was great and they fawned over my 18-month old. The place has at least two highchairs. Haven't tried takeout yet, but they do deliver. Anybody else have some thoughts?

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                                                                                                                                                                  3515 Johnson Ave, Bronx, NY 10463

                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: BronxBree

                                                                                                                                                                    just went to metate last night. we are rooting very hard for this place, as the restaurant scene in Riverdale is like Park Slope circa 1984. That is, no big whoop. Metate was OK, the food was tasty enough but on the safe side, for a non-discerning audience. Overheard at the next table was a patron asking the waiter, "wow, this guacamole is terrific, what's in it?" I mean, kids, at this stage of the 21st century, when you go to a place and patrons don't know guac, you get a sense of what level the kitchen is on...plus, no liquor license yet and you can't byob either. my feeling: if you're going for mediocre mexican food, you seriously need pitchers of frozen margaritas to at least enjoy your night. as for other restaurant choices, we are also new to the area and discovering the Yonkers waterfront area, which is very close. X2O was terrific and Dolphin was good. Traveling north 10 minutes opens up much better restaurant experiences. or, stick with manhattan for better dining. it's too bad. i mean, sometimes you just want to stay in your nabe and kick back and get some tasty eats, without having to sit with the extras from broadway danny rose or morty seinfeld and uncle leo. oh well, i guess that's what we signed up for when we moved to R-dale....sigh.

                                                                                                                                                                    Two rays of light: Riverdale Steak House and Madisons, both on Riverdale Ave nr. 259th. Riverdale Steak House reminds me of the interior of Old Town Bar on 18th -- and the staff and owners are very inviting. The food is great: really solid burger platters, simply grilled fish, nice steaks, and nice drinks. Reasonably priced. Both places are not "hot spots" -- it is what it is, nothing cutting edge here, but they are solid choices with a varied selection of menu choices. We do enjoy both, so sorry for the earlier griping.

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                                                                                                                                                                    Madison's
                                                                                                                                                                    5686 Riverdale Ave, Bronx, NY 10471

                                                                                                                                                                    Riverdale Steak House
                                                                                                                                                                    5700 Riverdale Ave, Bronx, NY 10471

                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: martinkleinman

                                                                                                                                                                      Update on Metate they got their liquor license last week, food is pretty good for Riverdale (which doesn't say much)...I think they could up the spice anty a bit. On another note J Jade Dim Sum now has sushi and a whole Japanese menu!!!! It's better and much fresher than Planet Tokyo and Palace of Japan (which has mediocre sushi on a good day). Lastly Genrico's pizza Cafe (which took over Jaspers) is HORRIBLE!!!! Stay away!!!! We went for dinner (lured by the outdoor dining) had a cold antipasto that was deli salami and cheese with some iceburg lettuce and roasted peppers, lasagna that was frozen in the middle with no meat and marinara sauce that repeated for days! The worst of it is that their spaghetti and meatballs (oh did I forget they advertise spaghetti but only have linguini) is two lead meatballs in a separate bowl. My father ordered a sausage parm hero they forgot the sauce and cheese. My BF and I were going to give it a second chance, but my parents went back again and said it was god awful!

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                                                                                                                                                                      Palace of Japan
                                                                                                                                                                      3505 Johnson Ave, Bronx, NY 10463

                                                                                                                                                                      J. Jade Dim Sum Cafe
                                                                                                                                                                      3260 Johnson Ave, Bronx, NY 10463

                                                                                                                                                                      Planet Tokyo
                                                                                                                                                                      3532 Johnson Ave, Bronx, NY 10463

                                                                                                                                                                      Metate
                                                                                                                                                                      3515 Johnson Ave, Bronx, NY 10463

                                                                                                                                                                      Generico's
                                                                                                                                                                      3535 Riverdale Ave, Bronx, NY 10463

                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: gremlin608

                                                                                                                                                                        I also noted that Metate reduced its prices considerably over the past two weeks. The menu posted outside even has the old prices crossed out with the new prices next to them. I think this spells trouble for them; They should have realized that those prices were ridiculous to begin with.

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                                                                                                                                                                        Metate
                                                                                                                                                                        3515 Johnson Ave, Bronx, NY 10463

                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: asg749d

                                                                                                                                                                          I wasn't thrilled with Metate the last time I ordered takeout from them, so I haven't been back in a while. I'll try them again now that they have their license. Drinks make mediocre Mexican go down a lot easier. Thanks for the tip on J. Jade too. I haven't been there in years and I'll give it another try

                                                                                                                                                                          On the bright side, I walked by the new Chinese/Japanese restaurant that's going in where Great Wall used to be next to Ben's Market on Knolls Cresent. It looks really nice on the inside. Mirrors on blue walls, wood trim, etc. One of the guys working said they expect to be open in a week. They even had a pile of freshly printed takeout menus piled outside the door. There are separate Chinese and Japanese menus. The food looks pretty standard. All the usual Chinese staples, cheap lunch specials, dinner combos with fried rice and egg roll, etc. They do offer brown rice, which is nice. The Japanese food looks similar to that of Planet Tokyo, with stuff ranging from $3 rolls to teriaki dinners and $40 sushi dinners for two. I'm not sure if it's going to be somewhere you would eat in, or just use for takeout. Sizzling teriaki dinners are best eaten at a restaurant, but it is a small space.

                                                                                                                                                                          I know it probably won't be anything to write home about, I just hope it's something decent. Right now, our weekend takeout options alternate between Greek from Christos and Pizza from Salvatore's and our last couple pizzas from Salvatore's have not been good.

                                                                                                                                                                          We also ordered from Granpa Tony's, (the former Nonna Tony's that's been rebuilt after a fire last year). The menu is almost exactly the same. My husband ordered wings, (we were watching football), which he said were fine. I ordered penne with eggplant. It was basically penne in red sauce with chopped up thin sliced eggplant, (like from eggplant parm), mixed in with lots of cheese melted on top. The pasta was overcooked, (something you would expect from residual trapped heat during delivery), and it was really greasy. I'd had the same thing at Nonna Tony's in years past, (though we ate in that time), and it was fine. On the upside, it came with bread, (not great quality), and a nice green salad. We'll probably try it again, but eat in this time. It's hard to fairly judge pasta when it's delivered and has a chance to get soggy. I've never been a fan of their pizza, (they use these strange pre-made crusts), but I'll probably try it again sometime soon.

                                                                                                                                                                          One thing worth mentioning, Grandpa's Pizza in Inwood does deliver to South Riverdale, (not sure how far north they'll go), and they make a really good pizza. Only problem is, sometimes they take a long time to deliver and the pizza isn't as hot as I would like it to be.

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                                                                                                                                                                          Planet Tokyo
                                                                                                                                                                          3532 Johnson Ave, Bronx, NY 10463

                                                                                                                                                                          Metate
                                                                                                                                                                          3515 Johnson Ave, Bronx, NY 10463

                                                                                                                                                                  2. re: janmaltby

                                                                                                                                                                    Everyone who bemoans the quality of restaurants in Riverdale is absolutely right. There are a few bright spots:

                                                                                                                                                                    1. Jade Dim Sum Cafe on Johnson Ave. is even better under new management.

                                                                                                                                                                    2. Jake's Steakhouse on Broadway is way overpriced for dinner but is a good choice for lunch with great burgers, sandwiches and sides and an excellent selection of beers on tap.

                                                                                                                                                                    3. Also on Broadway, Santa Fe has better than average Mexican food if you don't mind the incredibly long wait to get served.

                                                                                                                                                                    4. Down the hill in Kingsbridge, Christos Gyro is an excellent no-frills Greek choice.

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                                                                                                                                                                    Jake's Steakhouse
                                                                                                                                                                    6031 Broadway, Bronx, NY 10471

                                                                                                                                                                    Christos Gyro & Souvlaki
                                                                                                                                                                    3625 Kingsbridge Ave, Bronx, NY 10463

                                                                                                                                                                    J. Jade Dim Sum Cafe
                                                                                                                                                                    3260 Johnson Ave, Bronx, NY 10463

                                                                                                                                                                    Santa Fe
                                                                                                                                                                    6025 Broadway, Bronx, NY 10471

                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: BernieBX

                                                                                                                                                                      Has anyone tried the New Riverdale Garden? Any reports?

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                                                                                                                                                                      Riverdale Garden Restaurant & Lounge
                                                                                                                                                                      4576 Manhattan College Pkwy, Bronx, NY 10471

                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: aunteejoy

                                                                                                                                                                        I hadn't heard it re-opened - where is it?

                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: tvoz

                                                                                                                                                                          Same location

                                                                                                                                                                      2. re: BernieBX

                                                                                                                                                                        Head down to 234th and Broadway (or thereabouts) in Kingsbridge for Loeser's Kosher Deli. Post called their's one of the top 2 pastrami sandwiches in the city and I wrote about them for Serious Eats' "A Sandwich A Day" series; they've got a whole roster of the usual. Freddy's been there running on 50 years and is the real deal.

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                                                                                                                                                                        Loeser's Kosher Deli
                                                                                                                                                                        214 W 231st St, Bronx, NY 10463

                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: NewYorkNewHaven

                                                                                                                                                                          Loeser's Kosher Deli is on 231st Street between Broadway and Godwin Place, on the north side of the street, just half a block up hill from the 231st Street 1 train station.
                                                                                                                                                                          I've noticed that they have been staying open a bit later to serve us commuters who have to switch between subway and bus right there.

                                                                                                                                                                          Despite all appearances, the food is pretty good, but I wouldn't stray too far from the basics of meat sandwiches, hot dogs, and soup.

                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: jonepner

                                                                                                                                                                            ^South side ;) the first time I went there I, without thinking, ordered a ham and cheese sandwich and the guy looked at me like I had 2 heads :D

                                                                                                                                                                    2. FYI, the new Chinese/Japanese place next to Ben's on Knolls Knolls Crescent is finally open. Nothing spectacular, but the food is much better than Great Wall's was at the end. I've been in there twice so far and they've been slammed with business both times. The schezwan chicken was fine, bot not spicy at all. Lots of good veggies and decent quality meat. The kung pow chicken, also not spicy, was a little greasy. My husband liked the garlic chicken and the Riverdale Roll. But it's unclear if they make the sushi fresh. I could see five guys stir frying and deep frying food, but I couldn't see a sushi counter. The staff has been friendly, even though they're obviously really busy. For those of us who live in that part of Riverdale, I have a feeling this is going to be a go-to place for a cheap dinner, especially late at night. They're open till 11:30 on the weekends, which is a lot later than any of the other places around there.

                                                                                                                                                                      I'm interested to hear what everybody else thinks.

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                                                                                                                                                                      Empire 19
                                                                                                                                                                      19 Knolls Crescent, Bronx, NY 10463

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                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: BronxBree

                                                                                                                                                                        The name is now Empire 19.

                                                                                                                                                                        I've also been there twice this week and saw that they were super busy.

                                                                                                                                                                        I hope they don't become like Great Wall was in the end.

                                                                                                                                                                        I wouldn't order sushi from here except for a California roll and other items that don't have raw fish in them, it's not worth it, although I have not tried any sushi from here.

                                                                                                                                                                        I did have Beef with Broccoli, brown rice, Wonton Soup, egg rolls and fried port dumplings and all were pretty good, fresh tasting.

                                                                                                                                                                        This is not a destination restaurant or a place you'd want to take guests from out of the neighborhood, but for those of us who love all kinds of Chinese food and think of it as a staple food, it serves a perfect niche of comfort food that is open late for pick up or delivery.

                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: jonepner

                                                                                                                                                                          I went to the new Chinese/Japanese next to Ben's last week. I think that J Jade is definitely better but this will do in a pinch, they have the usual Chinese take out combo menu and a Japanese menu, being from part Japanese descent I don't trust the fish there, if I can't see it I can't trust it. Dumplings were ok I guess but the skin was way too thick for my liking. Orange chicken was pretty greasy. A note on J Jade, sushi quality is inconsistent...had 1 bad experience and 4 good (80-20 rule applies here). Metate has a new chef, I went last week at the end of the night and the Mole was better than before but they were out of a few other items, I'm going back next week to take advantage of Happy Hour and will report back. My parents went to New Riverdale Garden and said it was a beautiful garden but the food was mediocre at best, tiny portions and WAAAY over priced, they also didn't appreciate the really loud merengue music being played either. My bf was put off at "tiny portions" so needless to say we haven't gone. Jakes is still good, if you want a cheaper experience at dinner eat at the bar, the burgers are 1/2 the price at the bar that you would pay at a table. On another note I was disappointed with my last experience with Greek Express - really bland shrimp with orzo, overcooked salmon and dry pita...So sad because it was one of the few decent spots in the area.

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                                                                                                                                                                          Jake's Steakhouse
                                                                                                                                                                          6031 Broadway, Bronx, NY 10471

                                                                                                                                                                          J. Jade Dim Sum Cafe
                                                                                                                                                                          3260 Johnson Ave, Bronx, NY 10463

                                                                                                                                                                          Greek Express
                                                                                                                                                                          3733 Riverdale Ave, Bronx, NY 10463

                                                                                                                                                                          Metate
                                                                                                                                                                          3515 Johnson Ave, Bronx, NY 10463

                                                                                                                                                                          Riverdale Garden Restaurant & Lounge
                                                                                                                                                                          4576 Manhattan College Pkwy, Bronx, NY 10471

                                                                                                                                                                          Empire 19
                                                                                                                                                                          19 Knolls Crescent, Bronx, NY 10463

                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: gremlin608

                                                                                                                                                                            After several visits, I've officially sworn off Empire 19. The quality of the meat they use has been poor lately, or it's been very overcooked. They never make anything spicy and it's given me that icky, sick, ate too much grease feeling. Maybe I just don't like cheap Chinese food anymore? None of the places in the neighborhood, or by my midtown office for that matter, seem to make me happy. My husband, on the other hand, really likes their sushi, which he says he saw them make fresh. But when he gets sushi there, it ends up costing about $15. If I'm going to spend that much per person, I'm just going to pick up at Siam Square and get something I know I will like.

                                                                                                                                                                            On that note, Yummy Thai on Broadway in Inwood delivers to South Riverdale and is on Seamless Web. They're a little cheaper than Siam Square, though not as creative. We've been ordering from them recently for a change of pace. Delivery to our place on Kappock St. has averaged 30-40 minutes on a Saturday night, which isn't bad considering how far the poor delivery guy is riding his bike.

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                                                                                                                                                                            Siam Square
                                                                                                                                                                            564 Kappock St, Bronx, NY 10463

                                                                                                                                                                            Empire 19
                                                                                                                                                                            19 Knolls Crescent, Bronx, NY 10463

                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: BronxBree

                                                                                                                                                                              We really need to start a new Riverdale thread...anyway in response to Yummy Thai, I would consider checking it out but I luv Siam Sq and live on Kappock so when I order the food it comes in 15 min tops and is piping hot! Worth the expense IMHO...I agree with you Bronx Bree on the Empire 19 situation. Disappointing really. Btw has anyone gone to the Bronx Burger House on Moshulu yet...It's really good burgers a huge selection, potato skins, fajitas and wings are good as well. Consistently good bar food with some creative specials in the evening and the staff is really nice!

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                                                                                                                                                                              Bronx Burger House
                                                                                                                                                                              5816 Mosholu Ave, Bronx, NY 10471

                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: gremlin608

                                                                                                                                                                                A great spot although not in Riverdale, but close by in Inwood is La Estufa which is located on Broadway @ 215 st. Its a small spot but they promote healty eating and have nothing to hide as its an open kitchen.

                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: cnc1263

                                                                                                                                                                                  I had a pretty bad experience in La Estufa...They offered lobster empanadas with fake crab meat, and had a clueless waiter...pasta was uninspiring. Definitely underwhelmed but I'm glad to hear that someone else had a good experience

                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: gremlin608

                                                                                                                                                                                    La Estufa was a go-to spot for my husband and I for a long time until we had a baby. They're really good with kids there and they had a highchair, but the place was just too small and we felt bad hogging all the space with a highchair. But, they recently expanded into the storefront next door and now they have tons of space. I'm not a big fan of brunch, but I've found the dinner food to be pretty solid and their wine list is very reasonably priced. Now that it's not as cramped, we'll be heading back there for often.

                                                                                                                                                                                2. re: gremlin608

                                                                                                                                                                                  I need to amend my previous post about Yummy Thai. They no longer deliver to the Bronx, even though Seamless web still says they do. This caused me a lot of problems a few Sunday nights ago. I emailed Seamless web telling them they needed to make a change, but they still haven't done it. They did send me a $5 coupon though. Thanks for the tip on the Bronx Burger House. It's a bit far north for me, but I can't wait to give it a try.

                                                                                                                                                                        2. Just a quick note about Yo Burger on Riverdale Ave. _ It's actually pretty good. Yes, it's a totally Shake Shack rip off. Yes, frozen yogurt is so 1992. But it's still really good. Good quality Shake Shack style burgers and tasty fries. Sweet potato fries too. Just wish they had onion rings. I skipped the top-your-own frozen yogurt, but the milk shakes are really good and the perfect consistency. Fair warning, the place has been a zoo lately, so if you go, best to pick an off-peak time or be prepared to wait. Seats can be hard to come by and the place is overrun with high school students and families with kids.

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                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: BronxBree

                                                                                                                                                                            I agree 100%. They even went to the trouble of oversalting the meat just like Shake Shack, too!

                                                                                                                                                                            Actually, the fries are way better than Shake Shack's. The whole yogurt shtick is mainly for the kids. And the shakes are excellent, but they need to add more flavors or have some rotating specials.

                                                                                                                                                                            All in all, though, it's a pretty nice spot, and I'd much rather those guys have my money than Danny Meyer.

                                                                                                                                                                          2. Does anyone have any reports on the newer restaurants - Oregano, Tin Marin, Riverdale Garden? Also any news on what happened with Corner Grill, and Planet Tokyo?

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                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: aunteejoy

                                                                                                                                                                              I had brunch at Oregano on Sunday. The place is beautiful and the food was very good. I had a spinach and goat cheese omelet with potatoes and a little side salad for $12. The omelet was perfectly cooked. My husband had mussels and a half dozen oysters, which were pricy, but he enjoyed them. On the flip side, the service wasn't great. The wait staff basically never came back after bringing our food and even that took a very long time. That said, we were sitting back in the garden room, (beautiful, btw), so maybe we were forgotten. Other peoples' food and drinks seemed to take a long time too. The staff might have been covering tables out front too. I'm just glad we passed on the bottomless mimosas, because I doubt we would have gotten any refills. The only exception was the guy refilling our water glasses. He was great. It's a special occasion place, though fairly affordable for brunch. I'm sure we'll be back. We ate at Tin Marin too, though they'd only been open for 3 days at the time, (back in April), so I hate to be too critical. The food was decent, but not a great value compared to tapas places in Manhattan. The service there was also spotty, but I'm sure they were still working out the kinks at that time. I'd love to hear from somebody who has been there more recently. It's also worth mentioning that both Oregano and Tin Marin were very accommodating with my 2-year-old daughter. Went to Riverdale Garden a few months back with a Groupon. The food was horrible. We won't be back. Not sure what's up with Corner Grill, but Planet Tokyo is actually getting some much needed renovations. It doesn't look like it's going to be as fancy as Palace of Japan across the street, but they have put a lot of work into it and it looks so much better. My husband was out of town the Tuesday before the 4th of July, so I took my toddler for a walk into Central Riverdale and a for a bite at Yo Burger, (still really good). Both Johnson and Riverdale Aves. were bustling at 9 p.m. that night. Tin Marin and Oregano both had music and they, along with Salvatore's, had lines out the door. It was really nice to see. Maybe there is hope for this neighborhood after all?

                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: BronxBree

                                                                                                                                                                                OREGANO was delicious when we ate there two days ago. I could not believe this restaurant exists in Riverdale, it's great! We had the lunch special: salad, pasta, tiramisu for $12. Service was great, we got everything fast. (We were sitting in the main part of the restaurant.) We also had the cheese plate, which was lovely and only $5. Love this place and so happy it is in Riverdale!