Trattoria Romana - amazing Italian in Staten Island
- GreatFoodinStatenIsland?! Apr 13, 2003 08:01 PM
Okay, so we're your typically terribly snobby New Yorkers who've been to Staten Island maybe three times in our lives, if that - Staten Island?!!!!! That is, until a dear friend of ours moved there. So we then looked in Zagat's for the best Italian on Staten Island, given that the borough is supposed to have good Italian food. Zagat's gave Trattoria Romana on Hylan Boulevard a 25 for food - above anything else on S.I. by far - so we went.
We waited in line for 75 minutes - the line and crowd of people out the door was ginormous. But let me tell ya - and who'da thunk that Staten Island would be home to amazing food - IT WAS WORTH THE WAIT.
We died and went to heaven. Among the best Italian we've ever had. The pastas were so fresh, so al dente - to die for. Best appetizers and antipasto imaginable. The salads, the sauces, the preparation, the food portions: Incredible. We've been there three times in the last five or so weeks; we cannot believe one of our favorite restos is in Staten Island.
The chef Vittorio, who is from Rome and has amazing credentials - treats everyone like family, walking the tables. The waiters encourage you to stay as long as you want. They serve, without asking, polenta and bruschetta to everyone as soon as you're seated.
It's also fairly priced. Pastas in the $10 to 15 or so range, other dishes $20 or so. For this kind of food, amazing.
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Thanks, Wray. I've been posting on Chowhound for over two years and even have it linked on my personal website as one of my favorites. And I cannot tell you how many people to whom I've referred this site. There are quite a few postings on this board right now from me, in fact.
I truly didn't know that posting under one name was a preference of others, several of whom also post under different names. Yes, you're right, I'm not from Staten Island - so what? I'm from Manhattan. Like so many other Chowhounders, I'll travel anywhere for good Chowish food.
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I've been to TR maybe 12-15 times in two or three years, and I'd agree with half of your assessment. Their pastas have generally been good to excellent. Portions tend toward the enormous - not exactly atypical for SI. Good apps; we especially like anchovies and peppers. Price : quantity : quality ratio is pretty good. On my first visit, I did indeed say to myself "self, that may be just about the best the best Italian food I've had in a restaurant thus far."
OTOH: I think they've gone somewhat downhill; perhaps expanding into the second room strained the kitchen. They're clueless with fish, or else I've been unlucky twice. It's too crowded, not enough space between tables. And my last couple visits have been marred by god-awful cheezy live electric piano "worst of the Godfather/Sopranos" music - it's real work to hold back the laughter, but I don't think laughing would be a wise move here.
My current favorite SI SI (Staten Island Southern Italian) restaurant: La Riviera, on Forest Ave. We've had outstanding fish and very very good veal and pastas there in two visits. More spacious and relaxed atmosphere. Superior service (even by SI standards, which in my experience are the highest of any borough at any given price level), warm and welcoming, blah blah blah. But all this comes at a price, nearly double TR's if you go with the specials, which have been in the $20-30 range.
(My favorite restaurant on the Island, period, is a Sri Lankan joint, New Asha on Victory Blvd. You'll find a number of SI discussions further down the Outer Boroughs board.)
I've only been to Trattoria Romana once but was not that impressed...which is why I haven't returned. Not saying it was bad, just not worth a return visit IMHO. Actually, I'm not impressed in general with the numerous Italian restaurants found on Staten Island to begin with. (though I believe some of the finest pizza NY has to offer can be found here ) I would like to mention three exceptions to the rule....three S.I. Italian restaurants that are on par with the other boroughs.....Nucci's on Forest Ave, Kings Restaurant & Pizza on Victory Blvd., and La Sabia on Sand Lane in South Beach.
trattoria is recommended, but they cut corners and are not special in any way. they just don't stink.