23703 Mon Apr 14 16:29:44 -0700 2003 13 1 San Francisco Bay Area 0 90654 I know, I know...it doesn't get any less gourmet than that. But, I am in need of some sort of sweet kosher red wine to add to a dish I am making for Passover Seder this week. None of the grocery stores in San Francisco seem to carry it, so I am hoping that an SF Hound can tell me where to look? Thanks, in advance, for your help! Mon Apr 14 16:29:44 -0700 2003 0 lmk 1 90655 I'm pretty sure that Tower Market carries this wine. Also, you can check the kosher markets like Tel Aviv market on Irving St. (near 26th Ave.) Are you sure that the supermarkets don't carry it? I thought that I saw it at Safeway. It might have been Kedem rather than Manischewitz, but I'm pretty wure that they had sweet kosher wine. Oh, and I'll bet that Mollie Stone's stores carry this wine. Mon Apr 14 16:42:17 -0700 2003 90654 0 Nancy Berry 1 90658 Then you are not checking the right Safeway. I looked at Safeway on-line and they carry it as well as Mogan David and a few other kosher wines. I think Andronico's sells it as well. Any of the big pharmacies like Walgreens should also carry it, especially at this time of year. We aren't Jewish, but Manischewitz was the first wine I ever had (at about 8 years old). My family were not wine drinkers, but my dad would occasionally buy a bottle of Manischewitz at Easter and let me have a small taste. We were actually more of a beer family and my dad would let me have a little taste of the foam on the beer when I was a kid. Ah, Ballentine. There's a picture of me at less than a year trying to chew off the top of a beer bottle. Man, would my family be nabbed by social services today, or what? In a fit of nostalgia, I bought a bottle a few years ago and although I was expecting the really sweet taste, I wasn't expecting the slightly chemical aftertaste. Anyone have an opinion if Mogan David is better? What are the good Kosher wines out there? Mon Apr 14 16:58:24 -0700 2003 90654 0 Stanley Stephan 2 90663 Here's a link to last year's discussion of kosher wine. I've tried the Bunan Bandol recently and can recommend it. For the taste of California, Gan Eden from Sonoma County is good. Link: http://www.chowhound.com/topics/show/272643#1434784 Mon Apr 14 17:12:25 -0700 2003 90658 0 Melanie Wong 2 90696 Actually, it's shockingly difficult to find Manischewitz in this city. I searched two Safeways, Rainbow, Bi-Rite, Whole Foods, and several wine stores this weekend before finally finding it at the Bev-Mo on Bayshore. FWIW, the Matzoh and Matzoh meal that Safeway carries is not Kosher for Passover either (which I noticed AFTER spending two hours making matzoh balls). Good thing my seder is more about cultural tradition than religious orthodoxy. Mon Apr 14 19:36:16 -0700 2003 90658 0 wlw18 3 90709 I'm just curious, how did you find out that the matzoh was not kosher? I can't imagine someone would try to market matzoh that isn't kosher. Mon Apr 14 20:08:07 -0700 2003 90696 0 ed k 4 90713 Some additional laws apply on and around Pesach that determine "kosher for Passover". Link: http://www.chowhound.com/topics/show/272648#1434821 Mon Apr 14 20:23:20 -0700 2003 90709 0 Melanie Wong 4 90759 All matzah is kosher but all matzah is not kosher for Pesach. The Lafayette Safeway has 2 matzah displays--one in their regular/awful kosher section (they display Chanukah candles year around!) that is kosher but not kosher for Pesach and one end cap is devoted to Pesach foods including Kosher for Pesach matzot. The boxes look almost identical. In fact, I picked up the wrong box yesterday and wouldn't have realized my error--my goyisha husband had to point out it wasn't kosher for Pesach! Mon Apr 14 23:36:19 -0700 2003 90709 0 chowgefiltefish 5 90849 Oh, and a reminder that this is the time of year to stock up on kosher for Pesach Coca Cola. Made with sugar instead of high fructose corn syrup, the way Coke used to taste. Tue Apr 15 21:36:22 -0700 2003 90759 0 Melanie Wong 6 90859 Wow! That is the best tip I've read in a while. I'm on a search. Anyone know where to get this? Thanks, Melanie! Wed Apr 16 00:59:42 -0700 2003 90849 0 Missy P. 1 90699 I can't imagine SF has less cheap-o kosher concord grape wine than the south bay . . . it's abundantly available all year long down here at the local Safeway that I shop in, although I doubt they have a huge Jewish clientele, and I've certainly seen it in all the major supermarkets as I cruise through. If all else fails, do y'all have a Molly Stone's? Mon Apr 14 19:42:02 -0700 2003 90654 0 Judith Hurley 1 90705 I'm not sure if the ethnic food aisle or the wine department at Safeway carries Manischewitz, but they all carry it. However, if all you need is a sweet kosher red wine, try this idea out, to make a better dish. What dish are you making, by the way? Take about 100 milliliters (7.5 liquid ounces, or a small glass out of a bottle) of a good dry kosher red wine and add about 7 grams (1/4 ounce) of sugar (kosher of course) to it. You may think it will never dissolve, but with enough stirring and a little heat (definitely do not come close to boiling, maybe just 110 Fahrenheit or so), you will dissolve all the sugar, and you'll end up with a sticky, sweet red wine. It will taste a lot better than Manischewitz, and will improve the quality of your dish. If you need to use more than this amount of wine in your dish, use similar proportions. Look at the various posts and links below, and find a recommended Kosher red wine. My favorite by far that I've seen listed is the Bunan Bandol from France. Also, Fortant de France is good, as well as Gan Eden, Baron Herzog, and Weinstock (if they're still around) from California. I had a few bottles of the Golan Heights wines from Israel that were excellent, but they may be harder to find. Mon Apr 14 20:02:04 -0700 2003 90654 0 ed k 2 90714 I love it - an esteemed winemaker shares his recipe for making Manischewitz-style wine at home! Mon Apr 14 20:29:25 -0700 2003 90705 0 Melanie Wong 1 90763 Ed and Melanie are right--there are SO many more choices than Manischewitz if you have to have a kosher for Passover wine. In fact the Chronicle ran an article last week called "Kosher wine's come a long way from Manischewitz". My guess is you're making charoses. You do not have to use Manischewitz for charoses. In fact I found a recipe for Venetian charoses that uses brandy instead of wine. Link: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2003/04/10/WI209756.DTL Mon Apr 14 23:44:45 -0700 2003 90654 0 chowgefiltefish