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Looking for very good food and service in BEAUTIFUL, OPEN, LOFT-LIKE SPACE

girlie girl Jun 17, 2005 10:51 AM

Hi All,

I would like to find a restaurant in a pretty artist-loft-looking setting.

Something like the space LE MADRI (in Chelsea) used to be in -- on W. 18th & 7th Ave.

High ceilings, track lights, lots of space, etc.

I'm open to different cuisines. Prefer downtown NYC.


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    a320 RE: girlie girl Jun 17, 2005 10:54 AM


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      Wilfrid RE: a320 Jun 17, 2005 11:28 AM

      That's what I was going to say - more loft-like than the other suggestions.

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      NYFoodie RE: girlie girl Jun 17, 2005 11:04 AM

      Sapa. No queston.

      24th bewteen 5th and 6th. Vietnamese based food (excellent, but not authentic), great wine, service, and space.

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        quentin RE: girlie girl Jun 17, 2005 11:15 AM

        11 Madison

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          RR RE: girlie girl Jun 17, 2005 11:17 AM

          En Japanese Brasserie

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            bwdirector RE: girlie girl Jun 17, 2005 11:22 AM

            Eleven Madison. Four Seasons is very spacious and I personally love the place

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              girlie girl RE: girlie girl Jun 17, 2005 11:43 AM

              Thanks for all the great suggestions, Everyone!

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                frozfruit RE: girlie girl Jun 21, 2005 12:53 AM

                Bread Tribeca

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                  Cathy RE: frozfruit Jul 8, 2005 03:09 PM


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                    Liquid Sky RE: Cathy Jun 18, 2007 06:37 AM

                    Thanks for all these great suggestions. I wanted to revive this thread and see if anyone could think of any new restaurants that fit this description. (I've been out of NYC for just over a year.)

                    Thanks, Hounds!

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                  LES Snob RE: girlie girl Jun 18, 2007 11:47 AM

                  Not sure what meal period you are looking for, but Essex on Essex does weekend brunches and sounds like what you are looking for.

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                    Liquid Sky RE: LES Snob Jun 18, 2007 12:00 PM

                    Hi LES,

                    Would EESEX work for a cool dinner? (I'm not really a brunch person.) Thanks!

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                      LES Snob RE: Liquid Sky Jun 18, 2007 03:24 PM

                      The food is good, not great. Fun cocktails and the space seems like exactly what you are looking for. The cuisine isn't overly innovative, but pays tribute to the LES

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                        Liquid Sky RE: LES Snob Jun 18, 2007 04:31 PM

                        How does it compare to PUBLIC?

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                          LES Snob RE: Liquid Sky Jun 18, 2007 08:15 PM

                          Similar. I think Public is a little "fancier," while Essex is a little bigger. The food at public is a little more sophisticated.

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                            Liquid Sky RE: LES Snob Jun 18, 2007 08:57 PM

                            Thanks, LES. Seems like you know your stuff. Cheers!

                  2. ndl RE: girlie girl Jun 19, 2007 05:14 AM


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                      Liquid Sky RE: ndl Jun 19, 2007 07:59 AM

                      ndl: Have you been there recently? I have heard a lot of up and down reviews about Barbuto. Mostlly talking about the service being bad. Also, the seating seems a bit cramped and extremely loud.

                      I appreciate the thought though!

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                        ndl RE: Liquid Sky Jun 21, 2007 05:09 PM

                        actually it has been a while. when i was there, it was great though... my toddler nephew was with us and we were walking around the dining room when he got bored. it felt spacious and laid-back, but maybe they're crammed in more tables since then.

                    2. eateryrow RE: girlie girl Jun 19, 2007 09:24 AM

                      Try Park on 10th Ave in the low 20s, upper teens

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                        allenbank RE: girlie girl Jun 19, 2007 09:57 AM

                        I try not to post or reply to a post unless I'm quite sure I have something worthwhile to say. To add or comment on.

                        I believe I have an excellent suggestion for you: Capsouto Freres @ 451 Washington St., the cornor of Watts > 2 blocks below Canal St.

                        Capsouto Freres has been a constant for longer then I can remember in a very fickle world where quality and intent change from day to day.

                        C.F. serves excellent solid < horrilbe word, but applicable, french fare and to my taste the best brunch in town < I realize this was not in your request. They do not follow the latest trend, but prefer to simply do what they do the best they can.

                        The space is a huge "loft like space" exposed brick walls, large windows that allow in the flood of light, the outside enviorment > day or night helping sculpt a grand (not stuffy) expirence. Relaxing and vibrant in it's overall presentation.

                        I've never had a bad meal at C.F. As this I realize this sounds like a fan's B.S. It is truly an unbiased opinion. I have no problems stating deficencies and negatives in life and in restaurants.

                        I am confident you will enjoy your evening if you do visit C.F. DO NOT PASS ON THE CHOCOLATE SOUFFLE. After your meal, walk the deserted cobblestone streets and find a door unknown that behind reveals spirts and spirted conversation.

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                          Lucia RE: allenbank Jun 19, 2007 10:23 AM

                          I agree about the souffles at Capsouto Freres, but I find the food very mediocre. Last visit I had a cassoulet where the beans literally tasted like bbq beans.

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                            allenbank RE: Lucia Jun 19, 2007 10:29 AM


                            I think many many moons ago - many, I had a very good cassoulet at C.F. but of course I accept your tastes. Cassoulet is a tough one, but the beans should be "correct". The first and base of the dish. I once "traveled" France to find the "ultimate" cassoulet. If you're interested > search the France Board > Le Trou < it was the ultimate.

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                            Liquid Sky RE: allenbank Jun 19, 2007 10:48 AM

                            allen: I appreciate your input. In the past, I was very curious about CF. Especially since I am PASSIONATE about Grand Marnier souffles.

                            However, their food has been dissed countless times on this board and others. Which made me stay away...

                            Best regards!

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                              allenbank RE: Liquid Sky Jun 19, 2007 11:12 AM

                              Liquid Sky:

                              I haven't in all honosty been to C.F. for sometime. When they opened and years since, I have enjoyed the food. It was a "base" of ours, when there was nothing else even close < in proximaty or quality. < I guess I am / was a bit of a fan. The Freres, the Brothers Caposuto were alway on hand to make sure things went well while their mama was making SURE the kitchen put out food she / they were proud of. It is too bad that the food seems not to have remained as it was. Everything changes > the lesson: enjoy what's placed before us, what we discover, while it's there, because tomorrow... "Get'em while they're hot"! However, I have no doubt the space still retains its "magic". Think about a late night Grand Marnier Souffle, an espresso... I'm sure you won't be too disapointed.

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                                Liquid Sky RE: allenbank Jun 19, 2007 12:07 PM

                                Great idea. A pilgrimage for dessert...

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