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mary Oct 4, 2004 05:01 PM

I'm looking to introduce someone to profiteroles without flying them to Paris. Any thoughts on good ones in the city? Just read the review of August on the hot plate, but the reviewer said it was loud there. Don't want a loud place, or a scene, just some good food with yummy profiteroles. If the only place with good ones is a scene, tell me anyway. Thanks!

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    kirk Oct 4, 2004 05:05 PM

    Balthazar is totally loud but I love their profiteroles.

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      mary Oct 5, 2004 09:05 AM

      I'm going to make Balthazar a priority on my list. I've only eaten lunch there, but everyone on this site keeps talking about the delicious food there! Thanks for the tip, and for the details on the profiteroles there (and at the other places).

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        kirk Oct 5, 2004 10:06 AM

        If you do go to Balthazar, I love their French onion soup, as well, fwiw. :) Bon appetit!

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          Michael Oct 5, 2004 12:56 PM

          Now that can be a great meat at balthazar -- french onion soup followed by a plate of profiteroles. Maybe tack on some oysters at the beginning, and that may be a best-ever lunch.

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            mary Oct 5, 2004 01:53 PM

            i am in food heaven. Michael, would you be so kind as to give us your homemade profiterole recipe? I would die and go to heaven for that! By the by, I have only had profiteroles with ice cream (in France and a few places here) but what gave me this craving and what caused me to tell my friend about profiteroles were the cream puffs at the Japanese place on 77th and Broadway! Those are great, worth the visit, and hand-stuffed right there with cool yummy cream.

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              Michael Oct 5, 2004 02:24 PM

              Believe it or not, the best recipe I've found is from the venerable "Joy of Cooking." And using a Kitchenaid eliminates the endless beating of the paste.

              Although this dessert seems like it might be complicated, it's really pretty simple.

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                Mary Oct 6, 2004 11:13 AM

                Michael, You are my hero! Thanks for the tip. I own the Joy of Cooking as well as a Kitchenaid. Maybe I'll make it this weekend.

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                  Michael Oct 6, 2004 11:54 AM

                  If you want an extra kick, stuff them with coffee Haagen dazs ice cream.

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                bob192 Jun 17, 2008 04:07 PM

                The "Japanese place" is Beard Papa, most likely - when I need my profiterole fix, I'll ask for a couple of their "eclairs" with NO filling, take 'em home and lard 'em up with the best vanilla ice cream I can find, et voila, instant profiteroles!

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        TrishUntrapped Oct 4, 2004 05:07 PM

        I'll tell you anyway... The profiteroles at Balthazar are perfect. Three nice, medium-sized, crisp cream puff shells filled with good vanilla ice cream and served with a small boat of perfect, lucious chocolate sauce. So it's a popular joint and people are talking...they're talking because they're happy.

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          Michael Oct 5, 2004 12:55 PM

          I'll agree that the balthazar version is good and have had it many times. My partner insists on pouring the chocolate over the profiteroles himself -- he insists it's cause they pour too much, I suspect it's because he likes playing with his food.

          That said, I've found that the pastry itself is often a bit stale and has lost much of its eggy deliciousness. I've whipped up this treat on special occasions many times, and pastry made with a choux paste (as profiteroles are) goes stale quickly.

          So while you can get a good rendition at Balthazar, the best (as my partner attests) can be found fresh out of the oven at home.

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            nero Oct 5, 2004 02:47 PM

            can't vouch for the profiteroles at Balthazar as their warm chocolate cake with vanilla ice cream, though served in many many restaurants, tips the scales here...too good to be true.

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            RGR Oct 4, 2004 08:19 PM

            Gaby, the restaurant in the Sofitel Hotel, on W. 45th St., b/t 5th & 6th Avs., has very good French cuisine and excellent profiteroles. The space has beautiful Art Deco decor (as does the public areas of the hotel), nicely-spaced tables with comfortable seating, and conversation-friendly atmospherics.

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              Justyne Oct 5, 2004 01:38 AM

              you could try caffe dante (79 MacDougal St). really yummy profiterols, had them for dessert with my fiance on our first date. =)

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                bystander99 Oct 5, 2004 10:42 AM

                I don't know any in NYC that compare with those in France. The ones here always seemed to be filled with ice cream, while in France they're usually filled with a custardy cream. I've never cared for the ice cream filled American version since they usually make the pastry soggy.

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                  TrishUntrapped Oct 5, 2004 11:27 AM

                  I thought the difference between cream puffs and profiteroles was that profiteroles were filled with ice cream as opposed to whipped cream or custard like an eclair... Non??

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                    RGR Oct 5, 2004 12:14 PM

                    TrishUntrapped, Oui, vous avez raison! :-) (Translation for the French-impaired: You are right.) Bystander99 is definitely confusing the profiterole with the cream puff. The classic profiterole is made with vanilla ice cream, and it is served with warm chocolate sauce.

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                      bystander99 Oct 5, 2004 01:06 PM

                      I'm sorry, but I have had profiteroles in France and never been served ice cream.

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                        bystander99 Oct 5, 2004 01:30 PM

                        From epicurious:

                        http://www.epicurious.com/cooking/how...

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                          RGR Oct 5, 2004 01:35 PM

                          I have before me Daniel Young's "Paris Cafe Cookbook," and on page 156, he provides a recipe for Brasserie Balzar's Profiteroles. The ingredients list includes: "1 pint of vanilla ice cream."

                          However, in fairness to you, I decided to check epicurious.com for profiterole recipes that have appeared in "Gourmet" and "Bon Appetit." Of the 5 recipes provided, 3 use ice cream and 2 use pastry cream.

                          Just as you have never been served profiteroles filled with ice cream, I've never been served the pastry cream variety. But the evidence makes it clear that we were both wrong. :-)

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                            bystander99 Oct 5, 2004 05:16 PM

                            I'm sorry but I have been served profiteroles with ice cream, but only in America. I'm not saying that the French do not ever prepare them that way, but I am saying that the classic preparation is with pastry cream. As prepared in America, to my taste, that ice cream is a way to sog down not very well prepared pastry. I have also been served "profiteroles" which were in fact glorified ice cream sandwiches, more successful texture-wise, but not truly profiteroles.

                            It reminds me of the goopy, beefy, oversalted stock stuff with caramelized onions in it and a fried cheese hat on top that's referred to as "French onion soup." Sorry, maybe near the Chicago stockyards, but in my experience not the rule in France.

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                    offthebeatenpath1 Jun 13, 2008 11:02 AM

                    Surprisingly, my favorite profiteroles in NY are at Rue 57. Not a huge fan of the food, but the profiteroles blew me away.

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                      bastet212 Jun 13, 2008 12:45 PM

                      My Bf loves the ones at Bandol. :)

                      1. uhockey Jun 13, 2008 04:46 PM

                        Bouchon.

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                          G3B Jun 14, 2008 07:26 AM

                          I had a great one grand marnier profiterole at Square Meal for dessert a few weekends ago. It was delicious and I normally do not like profiteroles. Great food too.

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                            MMRuth Jun 16, 2008 06:55 AM

                            Did you enjoy the rest of your meal? I've not seen those on the menu - sound wonderful. They are open for lunch now, btw.

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                              MMRuth Jun 16, 2008 06:56 AM

                              Actually - just found your review - I think you posted while my computer was down! Glad you enjoyed it.

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                            chow_gal Jun 16, 2008 07:10 AM

                            Gascogne does great profiteroles. Odeon's are pretty good though not as good as G.'s

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