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  <id>198161</id>
  <title>best hot chocolate?</title>
  <published_at>Wed Nov 27 10:53:09 -0800 2002</published_at>
  <post_count>31</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>18</id>
    <name>Manhattan</name>
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    <post>
      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>1056950</id>
        <content>any ideas of where to find the best hot chocolate in nyc?</content>
        <published_at>Wed Nov 27 10:53:09 -0800 2002</published_at>
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        <user>
          <id>0</id>
          <name>cheerios</name>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1056951</id>
      <content>I have heard tell that it's in Brooklyn, Dumbo to be specific, at JaquesTorres' chocolate shop.  Take the F to York or the A, C to High St.  I did a search but couldn't find the exact address but if you do a search on the Outer Boroughs board you are bound to find it.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 27 11:00:48 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1056950</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Kenzi</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1056963</id>
      <content>You can find a similar hot chocolate in Manhattan at Lunette et Chocolate (25 Prince St). Personally, I find it much too thick, nothing like the great hot chocolate I've had in Paris (at Laduree, for example). A friend recommends La Maison du Chocolate, says the hot chocolate is amazing, but costs $7!</content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 27 12:09:47 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1056951</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Peter Cuce</name>
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    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1056966</id>
      <content>The Chocolate Bar, on 8th Ave near Jane, apparently uses Jacques Torres's hot chocolate mixture - regular and spicy both available.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 27 12:27:40 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1056951</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Caitlin McGrath</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1057079</id>
      <content>Jacques Torres' hot chocolate is amazing. But let it cool; it arrives at your table very, very hot. The croissants and pains au chocolat are very good too. The address is 66 Water St. in DUMBO; link to website below. The shop is officially open 9 am to 7 pm, although the website claims that Torres actually opens the shop around 8 when the first croissants come out of the oven. And contrary to what the alpha hound himself suggested in his chow report a few weeks ago, the staff, including Jacques Torres and his wife, are unpretentious and very friendly, none with their hair pulled back into tight buns.
 
Another good spot for chocolate is City Bakery on the north side of 18th between 5th and 6th. Get it with a homemade marshmallow floating on top.

Link: http://www.mrchocolate.com</content>
      <published_at>Fri Nov 29 16:32:52 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1056951</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Timowitz</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1056954</id>
      <content>How about the frozen hot chocolate at Serendipity?  60th between 2nd and 3rd.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 27 11:06:11 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1056950</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Tim H.</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1056957</id>
      <content>I feel like the only one in NY who doesn't like their frozen hot chocolate. It's icy, a little watery and not that chocolaty! 
I go for very thick rich hot chocolate and wish I knew where to get one, but I usually just make it at home when I crave it. I've heard Dean and Deluca does a good job though.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 27 11:28:10 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1056954</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Melissa</name>
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      <level>2</level>
      <id>1057021</id>
      <content>nah, why bother? go straight for hot chocolate. city bakery and mariebelle's at chocolates et lunettes in nolita. she has another store on broome, just off West B-way, the name escapes me, Marie Belle's perhaps? You can get the mix, too. haven't tried it myself as i'm partial to angelina's plus it's so easy to make your own!! for 2-3 servings, just warm 1 cup milk, 1/6 cup heavy cream, and 2 tbsp dutch-processed cocoa, then add 3 oz chopped bittersweet chocolate and simmer for 5 min. a touch of vanilla if you like. top with real whipped cream and revel in the complete bliss!   </content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 27 21:47:31 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1056954</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>madzia</name>
      </user>
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      <level>3</level>
      <id>1057049</id>
      <content>My recipe is even simpler than this. 
 
1 cup of whole milk, 2 ounces of the eating quality chocolate of your choice. Heat the milk to scalding (I use a glass measuring cup in the microwave), pour into a preheated blender container, and scrape in the chopped chocolate. Put back in the measuring cup, and reheat for 30 seconds or so if it has cooled down too much. Pour into small cups, serves two. 
 
The jar blender makes a nice foam. If you're going to serve milk foam or whipped cream on it separately, a stick blender works well, too, but mine makes no foam.
 
100% milk chocolate makes a sweeter, high-dairy hot chocolate. I find bittersweet is not sweet enough, so I  mix equal parts sweet and bittersweet chocolate. Unsweetened chocolate is an option, especially if you're using Splenda to lower carbs, but cheap brands tend to leave a gritty cocoa-like sediment on the bottom of the cup. 
 
Hint: make extra, refrigerate the leftovers. The best chocolate milk you ever had. Shake, and serve cold, with rum.
 
And don't say it's too much trouble. It takes 5 minutes, including cleanup. That's less time than it'll take you to get dressed, before you even go out the door.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Nov 28 11:13:57 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1057021</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>ironmom</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1056955</id>
      <content>City Bakery, 18th St. between Fifth and Sixth aves. hands down.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 27 11:11:41 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1056950</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>tamara</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1056969</id>
      <content>got to have the marshmello !!  I did not know hot chocolate could reach those heights.  
 
One problem - had hot chocolate only for breakfast about 10 o'clock and was not able to enjoy my Grammercy Tavern lunch a few hours later - I was STILL FULL !!!</content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 27 12:41:03 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1056955</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>danna</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>1056974</id>
      <content>City Bakery hot chocolate is, indeed, a meal in itself! Every February, they have a hot chocolate festival, with a rotating menu of flavored hot chocolates along with the regular stuff. Everything from caramel to ginger to black pepper and more. They post the menu for the month on their web site.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 27 12:48:29 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1056969</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Caitlin McGrath</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>1057007</id>
      <content>What is the web site?  I've tried numerous variations on Google and the best I've gotten are dead links.
Thanks!</content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 27 17:37:33 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1056974</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>James</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>1057082</id>
      <content>I think you'll find it only in February.
This year they had a tiny website with the list of flavors for the whole month. After February it disappeared.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Nov 29 17:15:05 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1057007</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Mar a</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>1057374</id>
      <content>City Bakery hot chocolate festival

Link: http://hot-chocolate-festival.com/</content>
      <published_at>Wed Dec 04 13:44:53 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1057007</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Peter Cuce</name>
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    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1057012</id>
      <content>City Bakery's is excellent; I loved Chocolate Bar, too, but it was a different type of hot chocolate, not as heavy and creamy, but still excellent.  If you're on the UWS, the restaurant SPQ, SQC, whatever (I always get the initials wrong) at Columbus and 73rd has creamy hot choc that's almost as good as City Bakery's.  I think the same recipe is used at Avenue, also on the UWS.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Nov 27 19:33:06 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1056950</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>mardi</name>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1057040</id>
      <content>Lunette on prince street, between mott and elizabeth, across the street from sigerson morrison.  the chocolatier serves hot chocolate in the size of espresso shots, a choice of 30% or 60% cocoa, vey rich very very dark.</content>
      <published_at>Thu Nov 28 01:34:32 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1056950</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>yum yum</name>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1057051</id>
      <content>I'd say anywhere that serves a good Oaxacan hot chocolate. The version at Good on Greenwich is very tasty, and at dinner comes as a dessert with two orange-flavoured doughnuts for $5.
 
Even better, IMO, is the hot chocolate at Five Points (not to mention wonderful brunch options from their wood fired oven).</content>
      <published_at>Thu Nov 28 11:46:53 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1056950</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Lambretta76</name>
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    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1057055</id>
      <content>Kitchen/Market on 8th Ave and 21 st or 22d makes good hot chocolate with Ibarra (the Oaxacan choc.).</content>
      <published_at>Thu Nov 28 20:10:50 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1057051</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Caitlin McGrath</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1059028</id>
      <content>Also, check out a great looking recipe for Mexican Hot chocolate posted today on the General topics board.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Dec 20 18:38:52 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1057051</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Faren</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1057067</id>
      <content>It's not the best in the chocolate sense, but one with real milk tast, at the Farmer's Market's Ronnybrook Farm stand.  Only $1. </content>
      <published_at>Fri Nov 29 10:37:55 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1056950</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>HLing</name>
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      <level>2</level>
      <id>1057080</id>
      <content>A great thing on a cold day at the market. You can make it home, as well - all they do is heat their chocolate milk!</content>
      <published_at>Fri Nov 29 17:05:44 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1057067</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Caitlin McGrath</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>1057099</id>
      <content>Ah, if I made it at home, I'd definitely use their milk, but use a more intense chocolate.  It might even be better than the $7 to $12 hot chocolates out there.  </content>
      <published_at>Sat Nov 30 11:26:59 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1057080</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>HLing</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>1057103</id>
      <content>Yes, I agree that their chocolate milk (and hence their hot chocolate) is just not chocolatey enough! But if you're going to brave the farmers' market in winter, a cup of hot chocolate or hot cider definitely helps.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Nov 30 15:18:32 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1057099</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Caitlin McGrath</name>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1057069</id>
      <content>Fairway, upstairs in the cafe. The best, hands down!</content>
      <published_at>Fri Nov 29 11:37:43 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1056950</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Gab</name>
      </user>
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      <level>1</level>
      <id>1057087</id>
      <content>if you happen to be looking for some one the uuws, try hungarian cafe on amsterdam. it is around 110th.</content>
      <published_at>Fri Nov 29 19:41:42 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1056950</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>minuet</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1057092</id>
      <content>The best hot chocolate is at La Maison du Chocolat.
$12 for a cup of hot chocolate. The best !! </content>
      <published_at>Sat Nov 30 00:42:55 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1056950</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Andrew Chen</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>1057139</id>
      <content>$12??  It's always been $7 since I've been going there (and worth every penny).  There are 2 varieties; I forgot the names, but one is a little more intense and less sweet than the other.  I prefer the less sweet one; the experience is almost like drinking wine. I brought a child there once and she found it too strong.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Dec 01 23:55:33 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1057092</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Cloudy</name>
      </user>
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      <level>2</level>
      <id>1057157</id>
      <content>I was not impressed with La Maison at 30 Rockefeller the last time I was there, about this time last year.  On the chocolate bar was a sign that read, "TO SERVE YOU BETTER OUR CHOCOLATE BAR IS CLOSED".  The saleswoman who *tried* to help me spoke only French and it was an ordeal to buy some small caramels at $1 each.  At that price I was expecting them to be sublime; they were far from that.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Dec 02 11:54:37 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1057092</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>ThorNYC</name>
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      <level>1</level>
      <id>1057155</id>
      <content>another recommendation: Marquet patissier in the Village on (I think) 12th St. between University Place and Fifth Ave. plus the whole place has a very authentically French atmosphere.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Dec 02 11:51:42 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1056950</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>tamara</name>
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      <level>1</level>
      <id>1057167</id>
      <content>
Believe it or not, the cafes with the Barnes &amp; Noble stores make a very good hot chocolate using Godiva cocoa and their capuccino machines to froth it up.  Take care in ordering, they offer both a cheap hot chocolate and the more expensive Godiva hot chocolate.
 
As does Ben &amp; Jerry's!  They use their hot fudge sauce as a base for their hot chocolate.
 
Thor
 

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      <published_at>Mon Dec 02 12:30:53 -0800 2002</published_at>
      <parent_id>1056950</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>ThorNYC</name>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>1060314</id>
      <content>try the mexican hot chocolate at Cafe Habana in Nolita, on 17 Prince Street. They melt a bar of mexican chocolate and add steamed milk - it's smooth, subtle and delicious.  also, try anything else in the restaurant (especially their grilled corn)- it's all amazing.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jul 14 16:30:29 -0700 2003</published_at>
      <parent_id>1056950</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>andy </name>
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