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Sandwiches, Subs, Hoggies, Grinders Needed ASAP

JesseLou May 16, 2002 01:09 PM

My dad is in town (for the first time) from Colorado and he's only here until Sunday. He has his heart set on eating a great East Coast-style sandwich. (People from the West grow up with the impression that the East Coast is the land of sublimely good sandwiches.) He asked me what people eat out here: hoggies, grinders, subs, or what? I didn't know what to tell him. I've been here two years and have yet to come across any truly memorable sanwiches - except Katz's and 2nd Ave Deli and I already took him to 2nd Ave.

So, my question is: Where do I find these mythical sandwiches?

PS - And I'm not talking about any foofoo sandwiches. No fusion, fancy, Dean & Deluca-esq sandwiches. I want the down and dirty, drippy and over stuffed "Nu Yawk" version.

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    Caitlin Wheeler RE: JesseLou May 16, 2002 01:30 PM

    I would highly recommend 2 places:
    1) Katz's deli for overstuffed pastrami or corned beef sandwiches. Not on a grinder or anything, but real classic NEw York.

    2) BB Sandwich shop. It's new, it's on West Third Street. SOOO GOOOD! Cheesesteak sandwiches (I won't call them Philly cheesesteak sandwiches, because that will offend purists) on kaiser rolls with these wonderful grilled onions and homemade pepper relish.

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      howardS RE: Caitlin Wheeler May 16, 2002 03:29 PM

      I second BB Sandwich shop.They do one thing (literally) very well.

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        bryanj RE: Caitlin Wheeler May 17, 2002 10:30 AM

        BBs is great. not very new yorker, tho, although i bet it will be a classic in 10 yrs.

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          matt RE: Caitlin Wheeler May 17, 2002 11:52 AM

          disagree on BB. Went there twice and both times the guy tried to give us pre-made, pre-wrapped sandwiches that he had stashed away in a drawer. I have no idea why this place is getting so much hype. It was just a roast beef sandwich on poppy roll.

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          thereuare RE: JesseLou May 16, 2002 01:35 PM

          How about: Manganaros Hero Boy Restaurant
          492 9th Avenue
          New York, NY 10018

          If you're really adventurous, take him on the PATH train to hoboken and go to either Vito's or Fiore's (both are generally take out, but Vito's has a few tables out front). Get anything w/ fresh mozzarella on it and you won't be disappointed.

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            John M. RE: thereuare May 16, 2002 01:57 PM

            On Saturday's only, Fiore's in Hoboken has a sandwich that I am willing to declare one of the best, if not the best sandwich in the New York Metropolitan area.

            It is a roast beef and "mutz" (fresh mozerella) on a fresh crusty italian baguette with gravy. The roast beef is store cooked and they keep a vat of gravy in the back in a metal steam table like container.

            First, you choose your own bread at the front of the store and bring it to the counter. Then when you order a sandwich they cut the fresh mozzerella in front of you, slice the still warm roast beef onto the bread and then walk to the back and ladel the gravy on to each side of the bread. It is truly a masterpiece . The line can get pretty long between noon and two (by long I mean 10-15 minutes) so I generally go before or after, but I have hnever had anything like this sandwich. It is that good and well worth the chow excursion from Manhattan. The address is Adams Street between 4th and 5th. It is a 15-20 minute walk from the PATH station.

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              Ian RE: John M. May 16, 2002 02:21 PM

              I've been there and can second that opinion. Great place.

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                HobokenHarry RE: John M. May 17, 2002 07:06 PM

                Fiore's is an old school family-run Hoboken institution well worth a visit. Old men playing pinnocle in the back and it doesn't get any more authentic than the three Italian men who work the deli counter. I did not know that the roast beef and gravy was only available Saturday's, bt come to think of it, I am usually there on Saturdays. Anything with fresh mutz there is good, but you nailed it, that is the best.

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              Stephanie L. RE: JesseLou May 16, 2002 01:41 PM

              There's a GREAT Italian deli on Mulberry and Grand that I think is called the Italian Food Center. If you want a real New York Italian sub with the works (meat and cheese for days), this is the place to go.

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                Abbylovi RE: Stephanie L. May 16, 2002 01:54 PM

                I've walked by there more than once and thought it looked good. Do you recommend anything else there?

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                  mrnyc RE: Abbylovi May 16, 2002 06:07 PM

                  the humble meatball hero there is the best i've ever had. nice gravy and fresh moz makes it.

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                    jellyapple RE: mrnyc May 19, 2002 03:26 PM

                    Hoggies? LOL

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                    Stephanie L. RE: Abbylovi May 17, 2002 11:17 AM

                    I've never had any hot subs like mrnyc, only cold ones. But their cold cuts and cheeses are first-rate, as are the rolls and toppings, and the portions are generous.

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                  John M. RE: JesseLou May 16, 2002 01:59 PM

                  As Italian Deli's go, I second the Italian Food Center.

                  I do not recommend Manganaro's Hero Boy. The bread is below average. Right next store, Manganaro's Groceria is much better.

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                    Ian RE: JesseLou May 16, 2002 02:20 PM

                    They're known as heroes around here, and you can get great ones at most any authentic Italian deli.

                    If you want to venture out to Brooklyn, there's a place on Sheepshead Bay Road called Jimmy's Heroes that is amazing. But whatever you do, don't settle for Subway!

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                      SOURPATCH RE: Ian May 16, 2002 04:33 PM

                      I grew up in bklyn my whole life and I agree with you, jimmy's has great hero's...they slice their cold cuts so you can see through them. I feel like manhattan deli's slice their cold cuts to thick, even when I ask for it thin.

                      Plus I would also like to recommend john's deli in bklyn on stillwell avenue. They have the world's best roast beef hero, with fresh mozzerella and grilled onions....a definite must do!

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                        pracrev RE: SOURPATCH May 17, 2002 12:26 AM

                        I agree with the two posters above me. Manhattan heroes are second-rate. You can find the most exotic cold cuts in New York City -- the widest selection of meats --, but they still can't make a hero. For starters, New York City (Manhatan) hero palces can't even cut the meat right. They cut it way too thick. Thin, to a Manhattan hero maker, is about the size of your thumb. Go straigh to Jimmy's Heroes in Sheepshead Bay Brooklyn, on Sheepehead Bay Road, just off the corner of Emmons Avenue.

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                      chowbabe RE: JesseLou May 16, 2002 04:34 PM

                      The Italian sandwich at Faicco's pork store is incredible. It's $10 and can feed three people. It's salami, soppressata, proscioutto, fresh mozzerella, peppers....the meats all taste fresh. I think your dad will love it!

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                        chowbabe RE: chowbabe May 16, 2002 04:37 PM

                        Btw--Faicco's is on Bleecker St in the W Village

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                        mrnyc RE: JesseLou May 16, 2002 06:28 PM

                        the best heros in the city are to be found at LEO'S LATTACINI on 104th street in corona, queens. take your dad for a ride on the historic #7 train and walk south a couple blocks on 104th. three generations of the nicest family on earth run this great shop. you can eat you outstanding hero outside or in the gift shop next door. i suggest "mama's special." then walk down to THE LEMON ICE KING nearby on 108th street. the ices have flecks of the fruit inside and are totally fantastic. it's a great nab and i can't think of a more pleasant (and very new york-y) afternoon if the weather is good. your info here:

                        Leo's Latticini-mama's
                        4602 104th St. Flushing, NY 11368-2813
                        Phone: (718)898-6069

                        Lemon Ice King
                        5202 108th St. Flushing, NY 11368-3303
                        Phone: (718)699-5133

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                          doc RE: mrnyc May 17, 2002 07:00 PM

                          I agree

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                          daveG RE: JesseLou May 16, 2002 09:08 PM

                          I still like the sandwich Nazi.

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                            the rogue RE: daveG May 16, 2002 09:16 PM

                            who is that?

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                              Bob F. RE: the rogue Jun 5, 2002 12:45 AM

                              I did a quick search and found (at E! Online, of all things!):

                              Melampo Imported Foods
                              105 Sullivan St. (nr Broome)

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                            doc RE: JesseLou May 17, 2002 06:59 PM

                            parisi bakery in little italy I think its mott and kenmare

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                              billyeats RE: JesseLou Nov 26, 2009 03:01 PM

                              Yes, get to Faicco's Pork Store on Bleecker and get an Italian hero. There is no seating, but if this beautiful weather continues, you can take the hero to Father Demo Square right down the block (at Bleecker & Carmine) and grab a bench. Plus Grom Gelato is right there to follow it up with.

                              1. guttergourmet RE: JesseLou Nov 27, 2009 04:25 AM


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