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Authentic Sushi and Refined Cantonese? (long)

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  • Tony Wong Nov 28, 2001 09:39 AM
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two probably very over asked questions:

1) Authentic, refined, cantonese cuisine?
I was just at Ping's in Chinatown and was thoroughly dissapointed. Fish was overcooked, food had no refinement, too much grease, etc. Where can I get a nice sit down full course, refined, Hong Kong/San Francisco/Vancouver style cantonese dinner? Any suggestions for Dim Sum as well (besides Golden Unicorn)?

2) I'm looking for an authentic intimate sushi bar where all the Japanese businessmen hang out (usually a good sign)? with a nice omakase?

I've been to Sushisay (overpriced) and my current favorite is Hasaki on 9th st. I've heard Tatany 52 and Taka are good "local Japanese" places? I've also tried Yama and Tomo, which aren't really my style. Any thoughts?

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  1. Cantonese -- Canton on Division. I've posted about it before and I'll post about it again. It is terrific.

    Japanese -- Jewel Bako on E. 5th street. As far as sushi goes, this place raises the bar to new heights. As I and others have said on this board, the sushi is just mind bogglingly good. Ask for Omakase and expect to have a life altering experience and to lay down some serious $$.

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    1. re: df

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      1. re: TWong

        You can actually specify from $50 on up. If you let them go crazy it'll probably be $100 per person for sushi and then you've got the saki to contend with, but that's your call.

        1. re: df

          The high end Omakase is actually $85 and IMO worth every cent - it was mind altering. We dropped a small fortune ($320 after tip) on two Omakase and a wonderful bottle of Sake (cant remember the name) and I would do it again in a heartbeat - if i could afford it.

          1. re: Mark M

            the omakase each is $85, and it came out to $340, the math does seem to work, or did you also have to purchase desserts separately? or also is the bottle of sake about a $100. what did you get in this mind-blowing omakase? was there any toro or a tartare of it or hamo or uni? anything really really exotic served/

            1. re: james g.

              Yes, Our check climbed to over $300 because we ordered their top of the line Sake - IIRC it was somewhere in the $100+ range.

              As for exotic choices, my memory is a little fuzzy but I specifically remember two pieces of toro that were so marbled they practically crumbled when touched. There were also a few different selections of brilliant Yellowtail that blew my mind.

              Funny story about our meal. When Jack (the owner) asked us if there was anything we did not like or were allergic to, I muttered something about not liking Mackeral. That was all Jack needed to hear. When he brought out our final plate of various sashimis he gave a full description of every piece - saving for last the TWO pieces of Mackeral that we apparently -"specially requested." Then, in case he didn't get his point across, he came by with a special "gift plate" compliments of the chef...yup, you guessed it, two more pieces of Mackeral.
              Funny thing is, now I like Mackeral.

              1. re: Mark M

                That's weird. I love Jack's hosting style, very gracious and makes you feel wonderful and comfortable somehow. But specifically giving you things you said you didn't want? That's a pretty risky proposition don't you think. I'm glad you have such a great spirit about it. Some people would have sent it back.

                Frank

                1. re: iron frank

                  Yea, agreed. Jack seemed like a very cool guy and I also like his informal, informational style.

                  He read me like a book - must have figured I needed a push in the right direction.

    2. I'll agree with the Jewel Bako assesment. It's my current favorite. Taka is very good as well and the fish is very well cared for and presented. The specials(even grasshoppers) are always interesting. They lack a reservation policy though and the service is friendly yet slow and semi-proficient. Blue Ribbon has the best combo of really fresh fish, good atmosphere, and a nice selection of non raw menu items for those not into Sushi but the wait is awfully long.

      Enjoy,
      Frank

      1. I will agree on Jewel Bako, but also add Kuruma Zushi and Sushi Yasada. All very expesive, but fabulous. In my humble opinion Kuruma is a cut above the rest.

        As to the Chinese part of your question, very few great choices. Try Dim Sum Go Go.

        1. Authentic sushi:

          Try Sushiden on 49th St.
          A bit expensive, but Japanese businessmen do favor this place. The chefs are friendly and the sake selection is very fine too.