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stacy bell mcquaide Sep 27, 2001 08:58 PM

My husband and I are visiting NYC for a week in mid-Oct. Please give us names and addresses of some good restaurants in Manhattan. We might make it to Brooklyn but aren't sure. In particular we'd like to find:

1)good Ukrainian/Russian--esp. pierogies
2)Persian
3)mom & pop Italian
4)Ecuadorian/Andean

Could someone also recommend a pub or two serving really good, fresh stouts?

Thanks a million!

Stacy McQuaide

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    Lina Oct 1, 2001 07:46 PM

    For

    pierogies: go to Veselka on 2nd Ave. @ 10th St. (Open 24 hours.)

    Mom & Pop Italian: Tanti Bacci on W. 10th @ 7th Ave. (It's in a basement, so it can be hard to find.)

    Andean: I agree w/Rinconcito Peruano. It's good, though if you're willing to trek out Jersey you'll find better such as Santa Barbara in Newark. (The BEST.)

    Persian: Haven't a clue...

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    1. re: Lina
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      jen kalb Oct 1, 2001 10:38 PM

      For Ukrainian, there is also the Ukrainian Home Restaurant on 2nd just north of St. Marks Place. The soups can be excellent as well as some of the very homey meat dishes.

      For Persian I believe there is site called Farsinet which lists persian restaurants - most in NY cater to Iranian Jews - there are a couple in midtown east - around 29th Street, Nader is one, just east of Park Avenue. There are a number in the eastern end of queens as well. Use the search feature and you will find some of these. I am not sure that NY is renowned for its persian cuisine.

      For homestyle italian (well, I dont know what kind of Italian home you are talking about) you would have a true NY experience great food/wonderful people/total barebones formica dive if you made the schlep by train out to DiFaras in Brooklyn - Im sure youll get other suggestions if you specify whether you want red sauce, sea food, Venetian, Tuscan or whatever.

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      Pan Sep 28, 2001 11:52 PM

      For good pierogis, would you consider a Polish place? Then try Teresa's, 1st Av. betw. 6th & 7th.

      Persian is hard to find in Manhattan. If you find a good one, PLEASE post about it!

      I'm assuming that a "mom and pop" Italian should be very informal. Fact is, my favorite Italian restaurants are in the East Village, and while none of them is really informal, none require suits. I've posted on all of them numerous times (I Coppi, Lavagna, Mosto), and others have their favorites in this area, as well. Searches will enable you to glean a lot of information.

      For Andean, try Rinconcito Peruano on 9th Av.

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      1. re: Pan
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        stacy mcquaide Sep 29, 2001 09:19 AM

        thanks for the recommendations!

        polish is fine--mostly i just want a good pierogie--i don't think there are any true eastern european restaurants anywhere in georgia, so i'm really looking forward to some good eastern european food.

        by "mom and pop" i meant "authentic" I guess, as close to the real thing as you can get short of actually being in italy--i'd be especially interested in a place that uses specialized olive oils. we were supposed to go to italy this fall but canceled. one of the things i was looking forward to was visting tiny eateries in small tuscan villages where the owners cook with and serve their very own olive oils pressed from their very own orchards.

        thanks again!

        1. re: stacy mcquaide
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          Pan Oct 3, 2001 01:03 AM

          I Coppi and Lavagna are both Tuscan restaurants. Mosto features the cuisine of Bologna and adjacent areas of Emilia-Romagna.

          I've eaten at I Coppi only once (ditto for Mosto, which is newer), and 2 or 3 times at Lavagna. I Coppi is the most expensive of the three, is consciously done up to look like a rural trattoria, and serves classic Tuscan cuisine. Lavagna is Tuscan-based but also a bit creative, and a very good value. Mosto is probably a bit cheaper than Lavagna, but much louder, unless they toned down the repetitive music that was playing the time I ate there. It's only that music that's made me hesitate to return, but my meal there was excellent, so I'll surely go back.

          I don't know about specialized olive oils, but the aforementioned restaurants certainly use high-quality olive oils and very fresh ingredients. Anyway, the best thing for you to do is simply do a search under "Italian" on this board ("Edit - Find").

          Buon appetito!

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        Dave Rick Sep 28, 2001 12:04 PM

        Stacey AND Sarah

        Use the "Find (on this page)" from the Edit menu, or something like that, in most browsers and enter a specific desire to see if you hit a link to an old thread. For stout I'd recommend running finds on "Guinness", "Beer", "English Pubs". Like that, dig? As Jeff pointed out this here's not a commercial site so it's not a resource generated by restaurants, retailers or guide services. If something comes up it's because people wanted to share and discuss. Good luck, thanx for visiting and have a great time here! We'll be glad to see you. No sleep 'til Brooklyn!

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          Sarah Sep 27, 2001 11:46 PM

          Hi, I've got quite a few friends visiting New York as relief workers, and I'm compiling information for them, on accommodation, etc.
          If you know of any nice places to hang out, eat ... I'd appreciate it.
          Also, any nice places to sit and read and drink coffee ...
          Thanks, Sarah

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            Janet Sep 28, 2001 06:16 AM

            If you're talking about rescue workers needing a break, this not be the type of food you're thinking, but I'd recommend the vegetarian dim sum place at 24 Pell, between Mott and Bowery. Chinatown is right outside the "zone" geographically yet a world away, and if you don't have much of an appetite you could get just one or two dim sum dishes and spend less than $5. a head. While they'll remove the plates promptly because they think it's good service, no one will annoy you while you sit and read and drink tea.

            1. re: Sarah
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              Chuck Kirkpatrick Sep 28, 2001 09:34 AM

              Sarah,

              You may not have realized, but you "took over" someone else's thread. Use "Post a Message to This Board" to start a new thread.

              1. re: Sarah
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                Pat Hammond Sep 28, 2001 10:24 AM

                Sarah, May I expand a bit on Chuck's post? The sort of places you are looking for seem different from those a visitor to New York City may be searching for, though they may over-lap. You did get a good reply though from Janet. You'd have been fine in starting an entirely new thread, i.e. "Good coffee shops, vegetarian, cheap" on the Manhattan board. Changing the subject, mid-stream, can be confusing. You may also try doing a search for the places you need, by gong to the Homepage, upper right corner. Good luck! pat

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                  tanyal Sep 28, 2001 12:52 PM

                  This is in response to looking for vegie eats in NYC,
                  25 1st Ave,Sanctuary. Very simple veg food, reasonably priced. ie a HUGE platter of fried brown rice and vegies, nicely spiced for $5. Dairy or vegan cheesecake....guess which one is delicious!! :-)
                  chow

                2. re: Sarah
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                  Pan Sep 28, 2001 11:55 PM

                  God bless them for their work, but you'll have to be more specific to get really useful information, I believe. It's not like this is a town with one or two inns and a coffee shop at the crossroads next to the railroad tracks or something, you know.

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                  Deven Black Sep 27, 2001 11:44 PM

                  While I'm sure you will get many recommendations here, you might also want to use the search engine on the homepage. Just enter any of the terms you used in your post and I'm sure you'll get lots of hits. Good luck!!

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                    Sarah again Sep 27, 2001 11:51 PM

                    Search engine does not yield restaurant names and addresses. Also details on price range.

                    Thanks for the suggestion. Sarah

                    1. re: Sarah again
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                      Jim Leff Sep 28, 2001 12:46 AM

                      "Search engine does not yield restaurant names and addresses. Also details on price range."

                      True.

                      It's important to understand: we're not Zagat. We don't provide slick information telling people where to eat. We provide in-depth, entertaining, and very savvy discussion about all sorts of places to eat, ways to eat, strategies of how to eat. It takes time, energy and savvy to use this resource, but much, much less that it'd take to glean all this information on your own out there unaided in the real world (though most of us LIVE to glean info unaided in the real world, as well).

                      Those who need addresses and phone info can go to yellow.com. Or call 411. Passive eaters seeking eating instructions on a silver platter ought to surf over to Zagat.com. We chowhounds are the intrepid eaters who don't need their info spoon-fed. Because spoon-fed info doesn't come from trusty, unbiased and irreverent chowhounds; it comes from the same mindset which bring us much of the highly commercialized, status-quo food that we work overtime trying our damndest to avoid.

                      Join in. It's messy but so satisfying. Burn your Zagat and be a chowhound! Be not afraid!

                      ciao

                      ps--please avoid super-long message titles and don't change subject unless the topic has digressed....that is, we ask users to communicate via message body, not via subject title.

                      1. re: Jim Leff
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                        Jennipaw Sep 28, 2001 05:54 PM

                        Yes, yes, but some posts don't have an area, or even the correct name of the place. No one wants to be spoon-fed information, or he'd ALREADY be on Zagat.com. But a little moooooore information would be helpful, so that when we go to the phone book and look up "Empire," we don't end up tossing our cookies in Columbus Circle when we should be licking our fingers on the Lower East Side. Most of us are here not only to take information, but to give it, too. Thanks for a great site!

                        1. re: Jennipaw
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                          Jim Leff Sep 28, 2001 05:59 PM

                          Fer sure. That's particularly a problem when we see a message on, say, our Midwest message board called "the best chinese food".

                          We do encourage everyone to help organize things by stipulating (preferably in the title) where they're talking about, especially on the boards with wide geographical coverage.

                          Not sure we need this in the title on the Manhattan board....but more info is always better. I agree, of course!

                          ciao

                          1. re: Jennipaw
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                            stacy mcquaide Sep 29, 2001 09:26 AM

                            thanks for coming to our defense!

                            I have done some searches and gotten some good ideas, but a lot of the time the info is rather vague--this is not a problem for locals, but country bumpkins such as myself are going to have a harder time tracking some of these places down.

                            while i may be a bumpkin, i sho' do love good chow! and if i discover something yummy while i'm rambling around new york on holiday, i'll share it here!

                        2. re: Sarah again
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                          Pan Sep 28, 2001 11:57 PM

                          Don't give up on searching so quickly. We can discuss this further on the Site Talk board.

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