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Jun 27, 2001 11:14 AM

Any Northern Style Dim Sum in NY?

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I am having withdrawl symptoms from the northern style dim sum you can find in Singapore and Hong Kong. I would love to find a source in NY. Any ideas??

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  1. Honestly, I've never heard of "northern style dim sum" AND I'm from Hong Kong. Please fill me in...I'd like to know.

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    1. re: Wendy L.

      I figured the reference was probably to things like the pork jiauzi I ate repeatedly when I was in Beijing. Honestly, I'm not sure what aromatic greens they typically used, and I was there some 14 years ago. Might have been mint, maybe. They sure were good but, overall, I prefer Cantonese dim sum.

      1. re: Wendy L.

        there ARE the items like flaky turnip pastries and the sesame bread and the heartier sort of dumplings sold by places like New Green Bo in Chinatown and Captain King in Elmhurst which may be the type of item is referred to. If this is it, I would check out the restaurants which offer shanghai style cooking, including the above and the one whose name escapes me on Division Street, which is a bit more upscale and may offer a dim sum brunch menu.

        1. re: jen kalb

          Jen, Shanghai isn't in Northern China - it's part of Central Eastern China - so I don't think that Shanghainese food of any type qualifies as Northern Chinese cuisine. I think that when someone asks about Northern Style dim sum, they're probably referring to food from either the Beijing region, Manchuria (I don't know what their dim sum is), Liaoning, or some similarly northerly region.

          1. re: Pan

            Michael,you are totally right on your geographic point( though from the standpoint of people in Singapore or Hong Kong, both Shanghai and Peking are "northern"). I was thinking more of the distinction between mandarin speakers (northern?) and cantonese speakers, and the difference between areas where wheat based cuisine predominates (northern?) as opposed to rice. As far as dim sum in this country goes, restaurants labelling themselves shanghai, Peking or "mandarin" style were the place where this other kind of dim sum appears - sometimes - wheat based buns and dumplings, scallion bread, flaky pastries with turnip or greens inside, etc. And Ive always assumed that the reason you get these dishes, and shanghai dishes, at Captain King (which is nominally a Taiwan restaurant) is due to the dominance of the former nationalist chinese there.

            I hope the original poster will resurface so we can get a better idea of what the "northern" dim sum he remembers was like.

            1. re: jen kalb

              Here's a link that talks about "northern" dim sum.


              1. re: Nancy Berry


                That was an excellent article. Thanks for getting it. Growing up in NY & HK, I always equated 'Dim Sum' to be from Guangzhou (Canton) and Hong Kong. If you were to go to anywhere northward and asked for dim sum, you'd get funny looks and confused faces. I just never heard of these great foods like the pork & vegetable baos and sesame cakes as 'Northern Dim Sum'. It's all symantecs, I know.

                1. re: Nancy Berry

                  I've been reading the posts on this board for few days now, and just want to thank you for clairfying the term "northern style dim sum". It's interesting to note that people just assume that dim sum is Cantonese simply because it's pronunced in Cantonese. Dim sum simply means little treats, or little snacks. They can refer to numerous things (savory and sweet), and are not limited to the type of dishes you can get in China town. I must admit that I prefer dim sum in the northern style as it's usually alot lighter than the Cantonese style. My favourite restaurant for Northern Style dim sum is actually located in Taipei (should anyone happen to visit) - named "Ding Tai Fong".

        2. The literal translation is "northern style breakfast." It's usually served only until late morning or early afternoon on a weekend.

          Dim sum in Mandarin means "snack." I recall that it was served pretty much all day in Taiwan and HK.

          There are several good places for a northern style breakfast in NYC, but all are in Flushing. Peoples Peoples on Prince Street and Uncle Joes (on Main?) come to mind.

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          1. re: grits

            Clarification - northern style breakfasts are served until mid-day, although most restaurants will serve until early afternoon on weekends.