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Jan 11, 2001 01:32 PM

charles southern-style kitchen

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i was planning on going to charles kitchen. but how is the neighborhood is it a dicey, dangerous section of Harlem or not? also, does charles still roam around in his mobile kitchen. also, how is his breakfast place is that Harlem too. thanks in advance.

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  1. The neighborhood is quieter than say 125th street but felt perfectly safe. There were a number of people in Charles' itself... It's not a block with tons of kids hanging out on the corners if that's what you mean by "dicey" - generally, it's hard to see what's going to happen to you on a street like this filled with stores. Of course, you could get unlucky - but I've had my purse snatched in the West Village and in Saks Fifth Avenue, but never in a bad "neighborhood", so just use normal precautions and enjoy.

    12 Replies
    1. re: Elaine

      Better be careful. That block is dicey enough that you might get held up-for a broker's fee.

      If the neighborhood bothers you, stay home, or take a tourist bus to Sylvia's.

      1. re: Rod Kaniehl

        oh stop it with your fear tactics. I'd be more afraid of going down to the alphabet city, than
        "uptown" these days.

        1. re: wb

          You didn't read my post, did you?

          1. re: Rod Kaniehl

            I think that I misunderstood.


        2. re: Rod Kaniehl

          " might get held up-for a broker's fee."

          Ha! That made my day!

          1. re: Rod Kaniehl

            Before anybody gets into a rage of political correctness over the supposed absurdity of Jason's question, I can tell you that a friend and I were assaulted amidst anti-white invective on our way from the 125th Street subway to lunch at Sylvia's approximately 8 or 9 years ago.

            While it is unfortunate that people need to ask questions about personal safety in some neighborhoods, this is a sad fact of life sometimes, and ignoring it will not make it go away.

            With that said, I have no idea how safe the area is today, and I don't wish to discourage anybody from going to the neigborhood. Neither am I saying that Harlem is at all unique in this regard. My other chowhoundly brush with violence -- although random as opposed to racially motivated -- occurred during an armed holdup during a dinner at Silver Pond in Flushing/Elmhurst back in 1991.

            1. re: Rob

              Which just shows you that stuff like that happens everywhere, not in any particular neighborhood.

              Laura K.

              1. re: Rob

                My point is, eight or nine years ago Harlem was not a "hot" real estate focal point, for better or worse. And think about the violence, physical and otherwise, non-caucasians face in many parts of fun city on a regular basis.

                It's not political correctness, but we have to start to trust, and to act a little more normal in daily life. As Rodney King said "can't we all just get along?"

                1. re: Rod Kaniehl

                  "And think about the violence, physical and otherwise, non-caucasians face in many parts of fun city on a regular basis."

                  Thank you!!

                  There are so many assumptions at work in a discussion of this nature. (A) That everyone who posts here is white! (B) That white people are targets for crime. (C) That neighborhoods of mostly people of color are more dangerous than neighborhoods of mostly white people... and on and on.

                  This has nothing to do with political correctness - it has to do with reality vs. myth. It's no more "dangerous" to eat at Sylvia's than it is at Union Square Cafe.

                  Laura K.

                  1. re: Laura K

                    So the crime statistics lie - no neighborhood is less safe than any other -

                    1. re: Dr. PC

                      Crime statistics do lie, yes. They are largely fictions, political footballs. I thought that was common knowledge.

                      Certainly some neighborhoods are safer than others, but the vast majority of crime victims are victimized within their own neighborhoods. White people who go into non-white neighborhoods are not moving targets.

                      Laura K.

            2. What about it, Jim, do they play dice up there? Jason seems to be a gaming man, who's very worried about where he plays. See his brainy comments on the Outer Boros board.