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ErikSatie Apr 2, 2000 11:51 PM

The only REAL thing about I miss about my former residence of Lansing Michigan was a small chain there called "Jersey Giant Submarines". I always got "the beasty" which had everything I wanted in a submarine sandwhich --, plenty of fresh meat cut right in front of your face, delicious soft bread, extremely zesty and zingy oils and vinegars and to top it off...free refills of soda (a small commodity I rarely see here in NY).

I used to go to Jersey Giants every Sat. Afternoon and watch Big10 Basketball/football with my chums and we'd chow on Beastys with cold Mountain Dews to boot. ~Beautiful Combination~ Anyways, I am CRAVING something like what I have described above. I live near the Wall St./Seaport area and will travel ANYWHERE to try a decent FLAVORFUL sub. (Anything below Houston St. is even better).

Cmon guys and gals, shower me with recommendations!

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    Jessica S. Apr 3, 2000 01:33 PM

    A lot of GOOD delis can make subs of all types and have the vinegar and oil, etc.
    I live near the M+O deli on Prince and Thompson and they can make sub-type sandwiches (aka hero, grinder). I like the subs (and delis) with an italian slant, that include cappicola, etc. And the italian delis tend to have the oil and vinegar and the long bread. So, I'd start with finding the best, most complete, deli near your work. Check out the specials board, M+O lists subs there. Some people might travel up to M+O but I don't think it's THAT amazing.
    Good luck and give us some sub reports! :-)

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      jen kalb Apr 3, 2000 01:51 PM

      Latticini Barese on Union Street (between Columbia St and the BQE) in Red Hook, Brooklyn makes very popular subs - using their own stellar mozzarella - I suspect they are extremely good of the kind - I see them in preparation often, for superbowl parties, firehouse feeds and trips to the ballpark . Just a short way north of the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel or south of the Atlantic Ave. exit on the BQE. And on the same block as Ferdinandos foccaceria (if you want to pick up some pannelle or potato croquettes) and a well-known Calzone place (I think its the King of Pizza and Calzone) too.

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        Chris E. Jun 13, 2000 04:44 PM

        I love Latticini Barese, and have eaten many a fine proscuitto and smoked mozzarella hero from there. Highly recommended. There are other places in Carroll Gardens to pick up a decent Italian sub, among them D'Amico's on Court near Degraw and the nearby Mazzone's, Esposito's pork store on Court near President, Joe's Superette on Smith near Carroll, and Amici's on Henry and Union. I'd rate Barese number one, though.

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          jen kalb Jun 13, 2000 06:07 PM

          we buy fresh-roasted espresso beans from D'Amico, have for many years, but I havent felt warm and fuzzy about that place since I was cheated majorly - twice running, a few years back - on large orders (in both cases, coffee and parmesan, getting charged for 3 lbs while receiving 2). The wages of being a yuppie...on the other hand, the people at Latticini Barese are so friendly and real that I would go there even if their products weren't some of the best around.

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            Chris E. Jun 14, 2000 12:48 PM

            Correction -- that's Mastellone, not Mazzone's. Mazzone's is a hardware store, which as far as I know is not known for their subs.

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          mtheo Apr 5, 2000 10:27 AM

          Thinking of subs (almost my favorite) has gotten me craving an authentic Philly Cheese Steak a la Pat's or Jim's.

          Any such thing in NYC? I'm always disappointed when I order a cheesesteak here, and I'm not sure I know what's missing.

          It should be simple...a good, firm roll, very finely chopped beef, lots of grilled onions, *real* cheese (provolone or mozzarella), and pizza/tomato sauce.

          Help me sate my craving!

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            AHR Apr 5, 2000 02:27 PM

            Not that this will make you feel any better, but a branch of Pat's opened at least ten years ago on E. 23rd Street. It folded quickly.

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              Patrick A. Apr 5, 2000 08:32 PM

              "Real" cheese? Heresy!

              Everyone knows that Pat's steaks have to be served with Cheez Whiz. It's the only way to go -- "whiz with". Add hot sauce, pepperoncini and dried hot peppers, and you're in gustatory heaven. It might be the finest dish on earth.

              Patrick

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                Helen Apr 12, 2000 04:41 PM

                Real cheese and pizza sauce? Heaven forfend!! I was at Jim's on South Street in Fluffya -- aka Philadelphia -- a couple of weeks ago, and the tomato in any form definitely doesn't belong on a classic Philly cheesesteak.

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                  cinnamongrill May 4, 2000 04:30 PM

                  The Trellis coffee shop on Roosevelt Island has a very good cheesesteak (about $6.50 -- deluxe). The Snapple is very good, too. Just don't get the french toast.

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                  Carolyn Franks May 8, 2000 04:12 PM

                  Dear Desperately Seeking Subs,

                  In my never-ending search to find a good Philly Cheesesteak in NY, I was happy to see someone else is searching too. I too have had my fair share of bad cheesesteaks. For some reason, New Yorkers confuse them with roast beef sandwiches. Please let me know if you've had any luck so far.

                  Thanks - Carolyn

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                  Patrick A. Apr 5, 2000 11:41 AM

                  The best subs I've found in NYC are Manganaro's (NOT Manganaro's Hero-Boy next door, which is unaffiliated now and which I have never tried), an old Italian grocery on Ninth Avenue around 35th St.

                  There are tables in the back, and the friendly Italian sisters there will compete to you make you the best Manganaro's Special, their classic Italian cold-cuts sub.

                  I've never found subs in New York to compare to those in Boston or Atlantic City, however. And as for cheesesteak, you HAVE to go to Philly.

                  Patrick

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                    P Chester Apr 6, 2000 11:20 PM

                    A glimmer of hope on 10th ave... about a block or two south of Empire Diner, maybe 22 and 10th, I passed a place tonight with a Greek name and a small sign "Philly cheeseteaks" on the door. Unfortunately I cannot remember the name or exact location. it is worth a try.

                    For subs or hoagies (as Philadelphians know them) try some of the delis located on Graham Ave in Williamsburg, La Salumeria, Emily's Pork Store*, or the deli across the street from Emily's. Also Joe's busy corner on 6th & bedford avenue in "the heart of Williamsburg" is very good.

                    * Emily's is my favorite although they close at 6 pm. and on Sunday's. request whatever fillings you like and ask for olive oil on the roll. Outstanding!

                    An extra tasty iced coffee at Cafe Capri across the street is a great follow-up to your sandwich.

                    in passing i heard there was an amazing place in this neighborhood that was an older couple's basement and you had to know them in order to be let in. i tried to press for details with no luck. please let me know if anyone has heard of such a place!

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                      Michael Preis Jun 12, 2000 10:52 AM

                      Just found this message board - I've found home!!!

                      Have been a sub connoisseur for 23 of my 27 years on earth - by far, the best I've ever had (including concoctions from Philly, St. Louis, D.C. and Atlantic City)is the White House on Arctic and Mississippi Aves. in Atlantic City. It's pure bliss on a roll.

                      In my NY search, I've found a close second, albeit in a remote location, called Sub Concious (awful name) on 118th Street and Amsterdam Ave. They use Eli's "sub rolls" and mimick the original White House menu all the way down to the pepper and egg sub. Cheese Steak is good n'greasy, and although not the real mckoy, it beats a 2 1/2 hour drive to AC.

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                        pat hammond Jun 12, 2000 11:06 AM

                        In that case, Michael, welcome home!
                        Tell me, where in St. Louis did you find a good sub? That's where I live.
                        pat

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                          Michael Preis Jun 16, 2000 12:11 PM

                          Glad to see there are so many White House aficionados out there!

                          Pat - I went to Wash U for undergrad and in my never ending search for great food (not found on campus), discovered Racanelli's, an Italian sub joint in Clayton - killer chicken parm, Italian mixed meat etc.

                          Other St. Louis favorites:

                          O'Connell's for burgers (hands down over Blueberry Hill)
                          Culpepper's for wings
                          Sidney Street Cafe for date spot
                          La Fourchette for celebration spot
                          Blue Water Grill for tapas
                          Taco Place (can't remember name) at the Galleria for Taco Tuesday ($1 tacos/beers - it was a college thing).

                          What are your favorites?

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                            pat hammond Jun 16, 2000 02:13 PM

                            Michael: If you were living in St. Louis recently (even the last 5-7 years) chances are you would not have had the privilege of eating an Amighetti sub made by the orginal Amighetti family. The present incarnation is just not up to the old standards. I don't know Racanelli's but I live close by and will check it out. I like O'Connell's too for roast beef sandwiches. Fio's was the place we went for celebrations. These days I cook alot for myself and an evening out usually means- Indian food or Vietnamese and most certainly, Thai. pat

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                              pat hammond Jun 16, 2000 02:19 PM

                              Michael, Yikes. We shouldn't be on the Manhattan board with this. Anything further on St. Louis should move to Midwest Board.p.

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                          Bilmo Jun 12, 2000 12:24 PM

                          Yes! The White House Special is one of the most delicious things on earth! I've heard the tuna, and the meatballs, are great, but I've never tried them.

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                            Jim Leff Jun 13, 2000 02:39 AM

                            "Sub Concious (awful name) on 118th Street and Amsterdam Ave"

                            Great tip…I've never heard of this place…and I'm not sure many others have, either.

                            You're welcome to come hang out here in your new home anytime!

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                              Dave Feldman Jun 13, 2000 02:52 AM

                              Michael,

                              Welcome to Chowhound. And special thanks for starting off with a bang. Never heard of Sub Conscious and if they make good cheesesteaks, all is forgiven!

                              I adore the White House (do a search to see the many discussions of WH), and prefer the cheesesteaks there to anything I've found in Philadellphia.

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