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Which is best: Daniel, Chanterelle, Le Cirque 2000?

Andrew Coe May 18, 1999 07:50 PM

We want to have a superlative meal and we're trying to decide which restaurant to go to, Daniel, Chanterelle, or Le Cirque 2000. Quality of the food, followed by service, are the two requisites. Anyone out there with an opinion? Should we try Lespinasse with Delouvrier instead? Other suggestions?

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    Dena May 20, 1999 04:21 PM

    Haven't eaten at Daniel, but Chanterelle and Le Cirque
    are both terrific. Chanterelle would be the better of
    the two, I think. However, for what I consider to be
    the best fancy-schmancy meal in town, I'd say it's
    Lutece, hands down. The food is superb and the
    service is the same.

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      scottreiner May 20, 1999 02:44 PM

      Between the initial three, Daniel is the best. Le
      Cirque 2000 is very good, but not superlative. The
      decor can be fun though. Chanterelle is fantastic, no
      complaints at all. But for the best NYC has to offer
      in French food you must go to Daniel.

      When there you must order the most expensive tasing
      menu, $120 I believe. You are going to spend a lot
      whatever you do, so you may as well go all the way.
      It is even better if you request that each cource is
      different for each person. They are also very
      accommodating if someone does not eat certain foods.
      The service is excellent. Wine is a little tricky if
      on a budget, but they do have some nice choices for
      under $100. The only real problem is the decor. They
      spent a lot of money on the interior, but didn't get
      much in return.

      Overall, though, it is a wondeful experience. Albeit

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        Dan Silverman May 19, 1999 11:05 PM

        In my opinion, Jean-Georges, hands down...


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          RENEE May 20, 1999 04:34 PM


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            Adlai May 21, 1999 11:38 AM

            Ditto. J-G is near perfect!!

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              E. Cornell May 21, 1999 09:34 PM

              Quadruple ditto.

              1. re: E. Cornell
                Jacq May 23, 1999 12:17 AM

                Here's number five: Jean Georges.

                Have tried Daniel...a tad disappointed in the food.
                Jean Georges knocked my socks off in every way.

                Not to dis Daniel, though...the service was

            2. re: RENEE
              vincent maleche Jul 12, 1999 12:17 PM

              Daniel is truly outstanding. you are treated with
              respect and the food IS the best in the city

              le Cirque does not honor reservations. The quality of
              their food while good is not great.If Flash and being
              with the noveau riche is for you, you will like le

              1. re: RENEE
                David Jul 13, 2000 04:28 PM

                Jean Georges is the best restaurant i know of in New York.

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              Pat Hammond May 19, 1999 02:20 PM

              I've never been to those you mention but where
              attention to service AND quality of food is concerned
              I can't imagine anyone cares more or carries it off
              better than Danny Meyer. Of his four restaurants I
              know two. I just had a fabulous meal at Tabla.
              Grammercy Tavern is superb in every way. Babbo, too,
              of course is wonderful, but I've heard some unhappy
              things from time to time about the service. Wherever
              you go, let us all hear. pat

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                Jake Klisivitch May 19, 1999 11:39 AM

                Superlative meal? The fried chicken, salmon cakes,
                collard greens, and potato salad at Charles Southern
                Kitchen and All You Can Eat Buffet on 151st and 8th.
                No doubt about it.

                Of course, the ambiance is a little different from Le
                Cirque and the wine list is not as extensive...

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                1. re: Jake Klisivitch
                  Jim Leff May 19, 1999 11:48 AM

                  Jake--Charles has, alas, gone downhill. Too busy, not spending enough time cooking personally, having helper
                  problems, cutting corners, etc etc. Mac and cheese is starchy/overcooked, chicken is merely good (frying and battering not being done carefully), collards
                  taste burnt. It's happened twice in a row.

                  I even met a non-friendly customer there. Zeitgeist.

                  1. re: Jake Klisivitch
                    Andrew Coe May 20, 1999 08:05 PM

                    Thanks for all the suggestions. I think the Daniel's have it. We ate at Jean-Georges too recently; I was disappointed at Lutece; and Chanterelle is not consistent enough in our experience. It's too bad about the Harlem cafeteria; the days of good cheap feasting are disappearing in this city.

                    1. re: Andrew Coe
                      Jim Leff May 20, 1999 08:30 PM


                      "the days of good cheap feasting are disappearing in this city."

                      I'm not sure about "cheap" (I generally just try to eat the best I possibly can, and fortunately for my budget I don't crave foie gras and champagne more than once every couple of months), but there's always been overwhelming amounts of wonderful off-the-beaten-track cooking being done in NYC, and always will be. Shoot, just take a look through these message boards; over ten thousand postings about places to eat, many of them worth getting excited about! And we're only scratching the surface.

                      Yes, the scene keeps changing and old favorites are constantly breaking our hearts, but there's always new treasure (and hidden old treasure) waiting to be sniffed out. The sum total remains the same; I suppose the "Conservation of Chow" law applies.

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