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Penelope Jan 23, 1998 05:06 PM

Steak

I am not a big steak eater, but my boyfriend is, and I would like to take him to a really good steak restaurant for his birthday. I am more concerned with the quality of the restaurant, rather than price. What do you think is the best steakhouse in Manhattan?(a restaurant with other offerings for me would be especially appreciated)

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    Michele Fuchs Jan 30, 1998 02:22 PM

    As a woman who does eat steak, although I'm a big fan of fish and chicken
    as well, I would recommend Morton's, the staff is terrific, and Sparks.
    Both are convenient and the atmosphere is a little nicer than the rest.

    Another that hasn't been mentioned but is also quite nice is Maloney and Porcelli.
    Their varied menu is wonderful, and their filet was excellent both times I
    ate it. Their mashed potatoes come with an herbed oil that is outrageous.

    Eat downstairs if you go, near the window is nice!
    Enjoy!

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      Steve Plotnicki Jan 29, 1998 07:44 AM

      Penelope-On any given night, any of the retsaurants
      mentioned below can produce the best steak in NY.
      Having been to all of them on many occassions, I've
      had experiences that have varied from orgasmic to just
      plain O.K. Being the son of a butcher, I will rpeat
      what my late father used to tell me when I was
      disappointed with what he brought home for dinner.
      "You can't crawl into the meat". Still, there needs to
      be a way to slog through the choices. I usually do it
      by what type of mood I'm in. Here's how it goes;

      Palm-The original. If your in the saloon mood and want
      the feeling of old NY. Have a Martini.
      Pietro's-Poor mans Palm. A quiet version.
      Sparks-Lots of big hair. I always thought of it as a
      bit polished.
      Peter Lugar-Beer Hall. Their steak is cooked
      differently than the others and is served
      in a butter sauce.On a good night, this is
      the best in my opinion.
      Morton's-Greatest show on earth. Touristy crowd.
      Smith & Wollensky-A cut below, maybe.
      Les Halles- Cote de Boeuf for 2 is attractive. Trendy.
      Campagna-Grilled and Rosemary flavored Tuscan steak for
      for 2 with mashed potatoes and spinach is a
      personal favorite.
      Patroon-Power steak. Power people. If your friends an
      investment banker.

      As for you, if you don't eat meat, Peter Lugar is the
      most limited serving just Salmon. Campagna, which is
      an Italian restaurant probably would have the most for
      you. I hope this has been helpful

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        John Knoesel Jan 29, 1998 01:35 PM

        The food at Campagna is great - just don't go on
        Saturday night. They must overbook or something. I was
        ther last Sat. and the staff seemed overwhelmed.
        The herb crusted swordfish steak I had, however, was
        the best piece of fish I've had in a long time.
        JK

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          Pat Jan 30, 1998 02:27 PM

          Just an aside about swordfish. The current word is
          that swordfish has been seriously over fished. I heard
          to Exec. Chef from Le Bernadin yesterday saying that
          his kitchen was taking a year off from buying swordfish
          in hope that the supply would replenish itself. Hope I
          didn't spoil your appetite.

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            John Knoesel Jan 30, 1998 07:10 PM

            I enjoyed my piece of swordfish at Campagna a few days
            before the announcement re: the "overfishing of
            swordfish". Now the question - should a chowhound
            refrain from ordering one of her or his favorite dishes
            which is being offered in the establishment that
            evening because of a media campaign or should you just
            enjoy it while you can ? Look, that piece of fish I ate
            was going to be consumed by someone that night - Right?

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              Penelope Jan 30, 1998 09:01 PM

              Thanks for all of the steak suggestions everyone. I have not yet decided on a place but it has been really helpful.
              About the swordfish question...
              yes , if you had not eaten that paticular piece of swordfish, someone else would have. However, if a large enough number of restaurant patrons stop ordering it it will not pay for the restaurant to stock it.
              The suggested ban is only for one year.

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                John Knoesel Jan 31, 1998 10:15 AM

                You're talking to a guy who gives up bungee jumping for
                lent. However, this seems to be a pretty serious
                problem and, therefore, I now declare that I am off the
                sword for a year ( or, however long it takes ) to help
                the cause!
                Regards, JK

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        Alex Wolfman Jan 24, 1998 10:12 AM

        In my opinion, the king of all NY steakhouses is Peter Luger's. It has a gruff, german-beer hall type decor and service, but that is part of the charm. The porterhouse steaks are the best I have ever had. The ordering is simple, steak for one, for two, three, etc. The sides, such as creamed spinach, shrimp cocktail (biggest shrimp I have ever seen), tomatoes and mozzarella, and hash browns are excellent. The deserts, such as cheese cake and pecan pie with fresh schlag ("german for whipped cream") will put you over the top. I have only eaten steak there, but I have heard from others that the fish (usually a big salmon or swordfish steak) is good.

        Sparks is also good. The aged steak is very flavorful, although not, in my opinion, as good as sparks. But I think the decor is a little more refined (it is all relative), and the wine lists is one of the best in the city. If you like lobster, they have huge ones here.

        Have a great time wherever you go.

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          John Knoesel Jan 24, 1998 08:44 AM

          This is a tuff one, but here's one mans take on your
          queery. For me it is a toss-up between Gallaghers (
          good steak and true steakhouse feel with fairly nice
          waiters ) and Smith & Wollenskey ( slightly better
          steak selection, more varied menu and only slightly
          gruff waiters ) . If you are into wine the choice has
          to be Spark's. More refined with MUCH more of a
          selection but still excellent steak - Post House &
          Ruth's Chris. There is a dark horse favorite downtown
          called Frank's ( 10th Ave @ 15th St.) Here the steak is
          served with side dishes and the atmosphere is much more
          relaxed. If you need more info let me know.
          Regards, JK

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            jonathan gold Jan 24, 1998 03:09 PM

            . . . and on a good night, the Palm can be
            heaven itself, albeit a heaven populated
            mostly with balding ad guys and the
            yellow-tie crowd. Amazing cottage fries.

            Still, all in all, if you discount the
            quality of the sides (fried potatoes like
            the ones you may remember from summer camp
            a salad of unripe (even in August) tomatoes
            in literally bottled dressing, I'd agree that
            Peter Luger serves the best steaks in America.

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              Alex Jan 24, 1998 03:30 PM

              I will admit that the tomatoes salad is not usually great (although it has been excellent on a few occassions) at Luger's, but I disagree with your take on the home fries. If you like home fries in general, their rendition is top notch. Crispy potatoes, not too greasy. But stay away from the french fries at Lugers, they are greasy, limp and tasteless.

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                John Knoesel Jan 25, 1998 08:23 AM

                Why are we talking about Lugers here guys ? Penelope
                was pretty specific in asking for a steakhouse in
                Manhattan . I agree that the steak served in the
                Brooklyn outpost of P.L. is without a doubt the
                tastiest in NY but it isn't worth dealing with the
                assholes that serve it.

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              Christy Veeder Feb 5, 1998 03:52 PM

              The Palm, the Palm, the Palm! Thank you, Steve
              Plotnicki, for acknowledging this fine steakhouse!
              I admit, I haven't been to Peter Luger's yet,
              but the Palm's lighting is much easier on the eyes
              and the steaks I've had there have never left me
              wanting. Creamed spinach is fabu, and the lobsters
              are something else (if you can afford them); my more
              timid mother ordered the pasta recently and regretted
              it (big surprise). I was taken to Sparks once, and
              spent the whole dinner wishing I had Palmed it instead.

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