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Apr 18, 2006 08:41 PM


  • j

Thinking of taking a date to southwark any thoughts? I have yet to try it. thanks

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  1. Go for it. The food's great (medium-fancy, delicious), nice decor, friendly staff.

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    1. re: SteveK

      We were disappointed when we tried it a few weeks ago -- we liked Gayle MUCH better!

      1. re: Beulah

        I also prefer Gayle, but I don't consider the food to be all that similar. Some of the things Southwark does well (like the veal cheeks or pork chop) are of a more hearty/rustic nature, comparatively speaking. I like Southwark for that kind of food, and I like Gayle for really thoughtful sauces, quite a bit of foie, etc.

        1. re: Beulah

          Actually we were dissapointed with Gayle AND Southwark and found Django almost as good as before. That's Just MHO. BTW, if eating inside Southwark you are relegated to the back room unless you love smoke which is what it is in the Bar.

      2. The food and service WERE very good when they first opened. But the last couple times I went service was really slow and the food O.K. Spend a little more and go to Gayle, it is excellant.

        1. I have not been there myself, but I do remember a post that stopped me from trying it. Apparently, at some point the menu had a message on the back that said "if you don't like the dish, the fault is not in the prepartation, but in your taste. We do not refund dishes."

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          1. re: Saturninus

            I went early in its existence and our party of four all enjoyed our appetizers - veal cheeks were excellent. However Cod and Cabbage slop aka Brandade was faultily prepared and to my taste was inedible, and the waitstaffs' attitude to us showing up with kids was a disgrace, especially in light of their being only one other couple in the pleasant back dining room. I have been back since for a nice pint of Amish Ale but would never eat there again as a result of their attitude, and average food. Just like the ""sadly missed"" Sud at 6th and Catherine(I never ate there but sat outside once for 15 mins waiting for service), if you put a sign up that offends your guests, you better be sure you're good enough for the long haul.

          2. Southwark is a great place to go if you like attitude and average food. The chef will accept NO requests for adjustments and you better order carefully because they will not let you send anything back. It says so right on the menu.

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            1. re: Jo

              As you and everyone can tell from the widely divergent posts, this place elicits strong emotions. Personally, I think very highly of Southwark. The range of opinions stems from the fact that the restaurant, from the decor to the menu to the preparation to service, is an intensely personal reflection of the owners. If you share their vision of dining, then the experience is one of the best in the city. If you don't share that vision, then you're likely to feel otherwise. There was an old art journal whose tagline read, "making no concessions for the public taste." Southwark shares the same sentiment. They have VERY high standards and a particular vision. If you don't share it, then tough. Would you tell Jackson Pollock, "a little more red down there"? So how is that different than asking, "a little more sauce down there"? It's not. If your love of food permits you to move beyond yourself as the center of the universe to share the communal experience of tasting the world through another's palate (or to continue the analogy, palette), then you'll love it. If your goal is to satisfy your own cravings at the expense of a chef that is willing to compromise his or her vision, then this is not the place for you.

            2. Try Ansill. They have a very interesting menu and a great wine list. Staff was very helpful and friendly.

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              1. re: LuLu

                I loved Ansill too.

                Contrary to Craig Laban I found the Pork Bellies to be excellent.