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  • Guy Mar 26, 2006 05:55 PM
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Where's the best?

Thanks for any suggestions.

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  1. That is kind of a loaded question. Any particular area you are interested in?

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    1. re: Amy G.

      I'll have several hours free on Tuesday (late morning through mid afternoon) and am willing to travel anywhere in the greater Pittsburgh area to try any "can't miss" pizza. Then I'm picking up a friend at the airport (4pm), and we'd have time for another pizza place before heading south of the city for a business meeting on Wednesday.

      So tell me your best!

      Thanks!

      ---Guy

      1. re: Guy

        Pizza Visuvio in South Side on Carson Street, aprroximately around the intersection of Carson St. and 15th St. Excellent New York style pizza. I like the plain best, though the white pizza does always lookd tempting and is good, the plain is the must try.

        1. re: Rick

          Saw this thread come alive again and wanted to say that I feel Pizza Visuvio has gone downhill somewhat. Still good pizza, but no longer would say it's excellent.

          1. re: Rick

            as long as we're adding to an old thread, I think we can all agree that Dinette belongs on this list.

    2. I ain't touchin' "the Best." Try Il Pizziola on Washington Road in Mt. Lebanon. Brick oven; thin crust.
      Also Mama Lena's on Island Ave in the Rocks.

      1. You could try the trifecta of pizza shops on Murray Avenue in Squirrel Hill, Mineo's, Aillo's and Napoli.
        Each sells cut's so trying all three is possible in one afternoon. I know several people personally, who have Mineo's pizza FedEx'ed around the country.

        1. My vote is for Luciano's Pizza in White Oak.
          It IS the best in the city!!!

          You won't be disappointed!

          Link with all info. included.

          Link: http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&amp...

          1. Not sure if anyone is still reading this thread, but the best place in the city is Fiori's through the Liberty Tunnel.

            1. I've lived in Pittsburgh 14 years and have learned to be wary of pizza recommendations here. I've heard people claim that Vincent's Pizza is the best in the world! (nonsense; it's grease on cardboard!) It seems that many Pittsburghers haven't traveled enough to know great pizza. Everyone's tastes are different, but I've lived in Boston, New York, San Francisco area, and traveled in Italy, for example, so I think I know a thing or two about pizza.

              For thin-crust, I recommend Piccolo Forno, 3801 Butler St, Lawrenceville. They used to be called Regina Margherita. That's my current favorite in the area. Nice ingredients. My only gripe with Piccolo Forno is that the place is acoustically quite loud (hard walls & floor) so don't expect a quiet meal during peak hours.

              Pino's on Reynolds St near Hastings in Point Breeze is also good. They have both Neapolitan and Sicilian styles.

              I haven't been to Il Pizzaiolo but I've heard good things about it from someone who seemed to know pizza.

              The last time I ate a Mineo's pizza, my impression was "nothing special".

              1. Sadly Regina Margherita has closed (IMHO the best in/around Pgh for years) - IL Pizzaiolo is quite good, it tends to get very crowded on weekends so you may want to order take-out. Papa J's also does a good pizza, particularly their white pizzas - I feel that the Carnegie branch is the best.

                1. If on the North Side, give DiPietro's White Pizza a shot - it is excellent.

                  1. I know some will disagree but I have to say that in my humble opinion that Vincent's Pizza on Rt. 30 in Forest Hills is the best in the world!

                    Of course, pizza is such a highly opinionated subject, but I have actually traveled the world and 45 states and haven't found anything that compares. At least it's what I want a pizza to be like.

                    1. Let me start by stating I've had better pizza from the concession stand at the convention centers in Bologna and Verona than anywhere in Pittsburgh with two exceptions: Roberto's (formerly Regina Margherita) and Il Pizzaiolo. As noted, the former is now closed.

                      The one issue I have with Ron's pies is that since they're not covered in piles of goo like everywhere else, they tend to cool down fast. But, they are extremely close to those found in a good trattoria.

                      Of course many in town will take issue with the price, which is higher than anywhere else.

                      The saddest thing about pizza here is that there seems to be one recipe that's shared for 95% of the places here. Because of that, anyone who's are different, whether Fiori, Mineo's, Beto's (yuk), Vincent's and a handful of others, stand out all the more just for trying.

                      As for personal cred, in addition to Italy, I've eaten my way through Hanover St., Federal Hill, Wooster St., Westchester Ave., Red Hook and Hoboken before moving here.

                      If anyplace wanted to open and produce a New Haven-style pizza joint here, I'd move in.

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                      1. re: Panini Guy

                        Has anyone tried Piccolo Forno on Butler Street in Lawrenceville? The crust is thin and they use fresh mozzerella on the pizza's.

                        1. re: grapevine

                          It is my favorite pizza in Pgh. It's not by the slice, but it's a nice restaurant and I love to go there. The only problem is not ordering the Lasagne Bolognese, which is the only Lasagne worth eating in Pgh.

                        2. re: Panini Guy

                          Betos is awesome-to each his own! My family buys it by the sheet pan, freezes it and transfers it down south.

                          1. re: chocchipcookie

                            Just don't bring that pile of ersatz pizza stuff it to my house, ok?

                            Since we seemed to have reopened this old thread, will update to say many of us NY/CT folks have found Harry's in Peters to fit the bill of a classic NY-Bos I-95 corridor pie. Not perfect, but pretty close.

                            1. re: Panini Guy

                              I am brand new to this Chow thing and just had to respond to my Betos. But where is Harry's in Peters?

                              1. re: chocchipcookie

                                Waterdam Plaza next to the Panera.

                                1. re: Panini Guy

                                  Thanks-we are headed back to the 'burgh in November of all months for my 20th class runion. I will definately try it!

                          2. re: Panini Guy

                            Just moved here to Pittsburgh from the New Haven, CT area. I too, would jump for joy to get a pizza anything close to Pepe's! Any suggestions....since this is an older post...maybe something has opened up? Hoping!!!!

                            1. re: vacationmomma

                              Nope. Surprisingly in the middle of coal country there are no coal-fired ovens. Best CT-style pie is Harry's in Waterdam Plaza down in McMurray (Rte 19S). They bought the recipe from Harry's in West Hartford. It's good. Just not Pepe's/Sally's/Modern good. And you don't want the clam pie.

                              You will find woodfired ovens though. Best is still Il Pizzaiolo in Mt. Lebanon, albeit it's traditional Neopolitan (DOC) and a bit expensive compared to the standard pie.

                              And before you ask, there's really nothing that touches Mamoun's here either.

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                              Pizzaiolo
                              703 Washington Rd, Pittsburgh, PA 15228

                          3. I believe Piccolo Forno is the new name for Regina Margherita-- the original was owned by a partnership that dissolved & part of the the dissolution deal was that the name be changed. I have eaten at RM and it is fabulous.

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                            1. re: Greyhoundgrrl

                              Regina Margherita was run by Roberto, who left that partnership and opened Roberto's in Bellvue, featuring a huge brick oven, only to have that close this summer. He's now making pies in New Jersey. The other partner still owns the name "Regina Margherita".

                              Piccolo Forno is run by the Dominic Branduzzi, son of Carla and Antonio who own Il Piccolo Forno, next to La Prima. Unfortunately his dad Antonio passed away last week.

                              Anyway, Regina Margherita has nothing to do with Piccolo Forno, other than the location and equipment.

                            2. Thanks for the clarification.

                              1. Mineo's is indeed an institution and is quite good. However be warned it is very cheesey and therefore rich (translate) greasy!
                                If you're doing a Pgh Pizza tour - it is a must. It may not be your favorite esp. if you're big fan of the Margherita thin crust very little topping style. If you go, grab a big hand full of napkins.

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                                1. re: 42duffy

                                  Back in the '70s, when it was the only pizza worth eating in Pgh, yeah, Mineo's was pretty good. But now you've got all kinds of choices, incl. ones that don't have oil on the pizza. Plus it's a smokepit (cigarettes) and reeks of air "freshener."

                                  Mineo's was good in 1972...but it hasn't been 1972 in a long time.

                                2. I'm sure most won't agree but I like DiCarlo's on rt 51. You have to take it with you and they don't deliver. I grew up on a version of the stuff in Weirton WV and the old man got his start in Steubenville OH. It's made in a sheet pan and you by it by the slice, or piece in this case, and it brings back the childhood memories for me.

                                  1. Another question--what happened to Pi in Squirrel Hill? It wasn't classic pizza, but we found it enjoyable and affordable. Loved Regina Margherita; haven't tried Piccolo Forno, but Gourmet Magazine gave it a mention. What's the scoop?

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                                    1. re: wandasue

                                      And another thought ...Church Brew Works has a pierogi pizza. It may be heresy, but this Dutchie loves the idea of potatoes, cheese, and onions on a pizza! A new twist on the Pennsylvania Dutch yellow/white meal!

                                      1. re: wandasue

                                        Piccolo Forno is the best Italian restaurant in Pittsburgh. Period.

                                        1. re: Jay F

                                          Don't agree with that Jay. We were going there for a while then one day we got the most boring salad and bland pizza and pasta that we've had in a long time. Haven't been back since. Have you been to Alla Famiglia? I'd say Alla Famiglia is a lot better than Piccolo Forno.

                                      2. Here are a few pieces of Pittsburgh pizza news. For starters, in my opinion, the best pizza in Pittsburgh was, hands down, Il Picolo Forno in the Strip (next to La Prima Coffee). The crust was thin and crispy, the sauce was delicious, it was never too salty, and it went so well with a cappuccino from next door on a Saturday morning. Sadly, last week, Il Picolo Forno (only in the Strip, not Lawrenceville) closed -- maybe temporarily or permanently closed. One of the co-owners, Antonio Branduzzi, passed away in January of this year, and though his wife, Carla, kept the bakery open in the several months afterwards, she has recently decided to close it. The delicious pizza he made was one of the best things to eat in Pittsburgh and will be sorely missed.

                                        Pizza news, #2: We went today to Harry's in McMurray to find a replacement pizza. We were not disappointed! We had plain cheese with fresh basil on top. The crust is thin and crispy to the point of being cracker-like on the bottom, but still chewy in the middle of the crust. But the pie was by no means dry -- there was copious red sauce with lots of chunks of tomatoes and visible bits of garlic. The sauce had an amazing fresh-tomato taste. The pizza in general was a bit salty, maybe a result of the shredded mozzarella (that comes in a bag) instead of fresh mozzarella. But overall, and with Il Picolo Forno no longer a contender (aww), Harry's, in my opinion, takes the Best Pittsburgh Pizza prize. It's just too bad it's such a long drive from Squirrel Hill.

                                        PS: The scoop on Harry's relation to the one in Connecticut -- they purchased the recipe from the CT Harry's (and, I guess, the name), but other than that, there's no affiliation.

                                         
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                                        1. re: cewe424

                                          Went to Pino's in Point Breeze on my eternal quest for a good slice in Pittsburgh. Found a nice restaurant with all the characteristics of a good pizzaria, amiance, good service, friendly. The one exception I had was I ordered a Margarita pie, and growing up in and around NYC, I was lead to believe this is a pizza that prizes tomatoes as the base. What I got, which turned out to be pretty good, was a pizza with NO SAUCE, lots of cheese, some shredded basil, and some small chopped tomatoes. Disappointing on my quest for the classic neopolitan pizza with a nice tomato flavor. Isn't there supposed to be nice red sauce, sliced fresh mozz, whole basil leaves, and a garlic olive oil that just cry out 'DEVOUR ME'? If thats the case, where can I find such a pizza in Pittsburgh?

                                          1. re: cewe424

                                            This is TERRIBLE news. Although I'm a bit confused, because we would often stop at Il Picolo for a slice on our Saturday morning Strip shopping trips, and it was always the thick stuff, which I also enjoy - when it's done right, that is. Never had or saw a thin pie there.

                                            But, regardless, if it is permanently closed, I will be terribly heartbroken. I am going to make some calls today to try to find out what the deal is!!

                                            As for the post, even though it's greasy, I do like Mineo's in Squirrel Hill. And we make Neapolitan styles at home with pretty good success, so I have been dying to try Il Pizzaiola in Mt. Lebanon.

                                          2. I love Mineo's (Sq HIll) Sicilian cuts. So delicious and filling!!

                                            For cheap delivery to my neighborhood (in the East End) I like Pizza Perfecta.

                                            I also like the pizza at the Church Brew Works because it goes quite well with their beers.

                                            Some of my friends SWEAR by Vince's Pizza (can't remember where it is) but some despise it. I still haven't made the trip.

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                                            1. re: jesspgh

                                              Vincent's is on Ardmore Blvd./Route 30 in Forest Hills. It is a real roadside dump but they have very unique pizza with a thick crust which remains moist on the inside. They pile toppings high and have a good, thin red sauce. It is definitely worth a try but not for everyone.

                                              1. re: meatmaster

                                                I love the wood-fired pizza at Il Pizziaolo and Piccolo Forno, but there is really nowhere to get a good New York slice here. I've learned to settle for Italian Village (the one in Squirrel Hill is better than the one downtown...don't know about the other locations), and Fiori's on West Liberty Avenue (not NY style, but still pretty tasty).

                                                1. re: boomfleisher

                                                  Again, that's what's so frustrating about Vesuvio/Sola - so close, yet so far. The size is right, the texture is right... but the flavor is all wrong.

                                                  If I need a slice, it's Mineos in Mt. Lebanon, near both work and home. The crust is almost thin enough, but not the slice size of a Ray's Original or similar. It's a couple doors down from Il Piz. I'll agree with you on IV in Squirrel Hill - close but again, not quite there.

                                                  For a whole pie, our choice is Harry's in Peters. If only they could get the clam pie right it would be perfect. But that's a New Haven-style pie, not a NY pie.

                                                  Also saw in a non-CH pizza thread elsewhere that another ex-NYer found a pie to his liking in North Park Mall. Didn't say what the name was - maybe he wants to keep it to himself.

                                                  1. re: Panini Guy

                                                    Heh, I dug up the post you're talking about, but since there's no "North Park Mall" on McKnight that I can think of, I'm not sure what he means. The big mall is Ross Park, the top mall in the entire Pittsburgh area, soon to include Nordstrom, etc.; extremely difficult to imagine anything good in there given what the rent must be. Usually chains are the only ones with the resources to be in there, although I think Taj Mahal used to have a space in the food court (not there anymore according to directory; although, heh, apparently Steamers is having a go at the mall, which seems appropriate for them from what I've been able to tell). I try to avoid indoor malls generally. The older mall used to be called Northway Mall, now references itself as Shoppes at Northway. The pizza place in there is Mama Lucia. Now unless they are all independently called this, I believe this has multiple area locations. This seems almost as suspect as Ross Park to me, but I really don't know.

                                                    It could be that he means neither of those, but while there are still some open shopping plazas still officially called "mall", I can't think of one on McKnight.

                                                    1. re: CrazyOne

                                                      Lord, I think I'm becoming one of those "people that don't cross a river"!

                                                      I just took the post at face value, figuring it was a long road and there probably was something called North Park Mall. Only time I've been up there in past four years was to buy some stuff from the Gloria Jeans liquidation (which is the location Steamers took over).

                                                      Time for some detective work...

                                                      1. re: Panini Guy

                                                        Hey, if I lived and worked where you do I don't think I'd bother to cross rivers either! The more I hear, the more I think we need to spend some time down there soon so we can see if that might go on the potential areas to move to list, even though the moving could be years away....

                                                        You know, while we're on pizza, it's not on this thread but it has come up before maybe not on CH but elsewhere, if you're going to cross rivers for it have you tried Frank's in Ambridge? Sounds crazy, and I haven't tried it either, but I bookmarked it to try sometime because of something I read somewhere. http://franks-pizzeria.com/ It's also reasonably nearby, so I figure we'll try it sometime. But I'm not really too picky so even if I had tried it my recommendations would be mostly meaningless to a NY transplant looking for that style. ;-)

                                                        1. re: CrazyOne

                                                          Police Station Pizza in ambridge in one of my favorites. The best part is you can get an unbaked and it tastes the same at home making it yourself as is does from the shop.

                                                          1. re: CrazyOne

                                                            Best I could come up with was he was referring to Northway Mall (now Northway Shoppes) and Mamma Lucia's, which I've found described as NY style. Nothing else on McKnight seems to fit the description as well.

                                                            I guess they're a small chain as I saw mention of another in West Mifflin.

                                                            I also keep hearing about Campitis in Dormont., although not from anyone I necessarily trust for a pizza rec. Anyone tried that?

                                                            1. re: CrazyOne

                                                              That's a heck of a minimalist menu that Frank's has. I love it. It meets three personal pizza shop criteria:
                                                              1. They don't also "specialize" in wings.
                                                              2. There's no pineapple, ranch sauce or buffalo chicken topping.
                                                              3. One size.

                                                              That's someplace that might be worth crossing a river to try.

                                                              1. re: Panini Guy

                                                                I used to frequent DiCarlo's on Route 51, but they are closed and there is a "for lease" sign on the building. I'm not sure what happened.

                                                                Luciano's is one of my favorites along with Fiori's and Vincents.

                                                                Everyone has their own idea of what good pizza should be... hence the packed parking lot 7 nights a week at my local Pizza Hut (bleah).

                                                                1. re: burghgal

                                                                  Somehow I don't think a packed parking lot at Pizza Hut is because of some adult's idea of "good pizza". They've got a wider menu and a brand that kids are familiar with. And there are always coupons and specials to cut the costs of feeding a family. Anytime I've been in a Pizza Hut, it's always families with young children or teens. Rarely if ever have seen two or more adults unaccompanied by minors at a booth or table.

                                                                  I believe (or need to believe) that given the choice, adults on their own would choose something different.

                                                                  1. re: burghgal

                                                                    DiCarlo's has reopened. I'm not sure what happened, but I'm glad they are back!

                                                                    http://burghfeeding.blogspot.com/

                                                                  2. re: Panini Guy

                                                                    Panini,
                                                                    I agree totally about the menu! I'll tell you, Franks is worth the trip. By the way, they don't even have a sign that says Franks. It just say Pizza. I eat pizza in every city I travel to, but nothing compare's to Franks.

                                                                  3. re: CrazyOne

                                                                    I've got to recommend Franks too. It's my favorite around Pittsburgh. It's different than the typical, thin, but crispy...Dosen't have the "burnt" taste that you get from a wood oven, but still has the great crust. Sauce has a hint of sweetness and they use great cheese. They don't provide all kinds of toppings, just good basic pizza!

                                                                    http://burghfeeding.blogspot.com/

                                                      2. Azzeria on Bankesville Road -- they have a brick oven & very good toppings. Very italian style (which i find appropriate for my pizza). Plus, you can bring your own bottle of wine to enjoy.

                                                        cheers

                                                        1. Pizza Sola has NY style slices

                                                          1. We've been really enjoying Pizza Sola on Carson St. lately. I like it best as a whole pie when picked up. But both the regular and white pizzas have been really great.

                                                            I also really enjoy the pizzas from Church Brew Works.

                                                            I do plan on checking out Azzeria though. Not sure which side of Banksville Road though. I also want to try the pizza from Rolands on the Strip. Is is Rolands? or is it another place next door? I never looked close enough but the pizza looks amazing!

                                                            1. DiSala's Carson St. Southside

                                                              1. Not one mention of Dinette in east liberty????? The only creative pizza place in pittsburgh. If you have ever been to Batali's pizzeria mozza out in LA you will appreciate this place. While not as good as the silverton and batali combo, definitly the best pizza in the the area.

                                                                Please go, you will all change your minds and your general conceptions about pizza as a whole.

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                                                                1. re: jak0880

                                                                  Agree on Dinette's excellence, but note that most of the posts on this thread predate Dinette, And if you look at 5th from top, you'll see a mention in a post from this past July. Plus there are a bunch of other threads on Dinette.

                                                                2. Aiello's on Murray Ave. in Squirrel Hill. Absolutely nothing compares. Its the best pizza I've had in any city. I can't believe no one else has mentioned. Go with a classic cheese and the white with fresh tomato. Heaven in your mouth.

                                                                  1. I've not yet had Forno or Dinette, but Aiellos is definitely my favorite in the city. Mineo's and Fiori's are too cheesy and Vincent's on Route 30 is all excess, though sometimes that is just what I want. Harry's was very fresh but was a bit underwhelming. Same as Bedo's on Banksville, only Bedo's was too crust heavy and generally lacked nuance. Sola (Vesuvio) doesn't merit mention among the top tier in Pittsburgh, and unless ordered whole, is often reheated and too salty, though it of course tastes great when drunk.

                                                                    Aiellos is well balanced, and when eaten on premise, has fantastically flaky crust. The red sauce is sweeter than most and is particularly fantastic when pepperoni (underneath the cheese) imparts a lightly spicy note to the generally sweeter flavor. Their white pizza with tomato is also excellent.

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                                                                    1. re: MrChopin

                                                                      Forno and Dinette are worth the adventure and I'm sure you will note they will become great go-to for neapolitan style pizzas. Il Pizzaiola is also worth mentioning in this category as they serve a fantastic pie as well as use some of the most premium ingredients available.

                                                                      I was surprised you categorized Pizza Sola as "drunk pizza" because it is the closest thing Pittsburgh has to Real NY Style Pizza. Alas I wish they used the oversized pepperoni, but the thin crust and tomatoes are the real deal (not to mention their sausage) and they don't use the Pittbsburgh blend of cheese. Agreed, their whole pies are much better but that is typically the case with a slice shop, even in NY.

                                                                      Aiello's, Mineos, Bedo's, Vincents, Fioris are all neighborhood joints and seem to have gained loyaty points over the years from being in highly populated regions of the city. With any of them you really can't go wrong, just depends on what style you prefer which MrChopin has done a great job of breaking down.

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                                                                      Pizza Sola
                                                                      6004 Penn Cir S, Pittsburgh, PA 15206

                                                                    2. Can anyone help me whittle this down to someplace within walking, bus or very short cab ride from the OMNI hotel? Would prefer to walk if possible. Thanks! Lots of great suggestions but don't know PGH at all!

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                                                                      1. re: sfdoc

                                                                        See also this thread: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/721967

                                                                        I can't think of any pizza within a typical walk that would be worth walking to.

                                                                        You can get to Il Pizzaiolo on the T light rail system.

                                                                        Or you could get to Dinette via bus I think fairly simply. Or hit the Church Brew Works which is closer. (I personally haven't had the pizza here that I can remember, has been a long time, but it is an interesting spot.) On a really nice day you could consider walking up to the Church, but it would take a good while, probably close to 30 min, at least 20. But this would be a very short bus or cab ride. You could also bus or cab to Piccolo Forno or Mineo's or others, I'm sure.

                                                                        If you can get there I'd suggest Dinette specifically, can't go wrong. If you're going to take one shot and are not from the area, that's the one I'd take for pizza. http://www.dinette-pgh.com/

                                                                        If you need it to be closer and also like beer, the Church is certainly a decent place to try. They brew beer in the old church and do have a number of pizzas on the pub menu. http://www.churchbrew.com/

                                                                        Piccolo Forno I guess is really not much farther than the Church, so that would be another close-ish choice. http://www.piccolo-forno.com/ But if you're going one place this is not the most interesting, I don't think.

                                                                        Since you're at a downtown hotel, it's actually quite easy to get at cab TO these places, will be more convenient than evening buses. The issue is getting a cab back when you're done, although I suspect all these places would help you out by calling one. If the cab doesn't know where Dinette is try suggesting Whole Foods, which it is near (although Dinette is on the upper level of the development across the parking lot from Whole Foods). The cab may prefer the longer trip to Dinette vs the shorter trip to the Church after waiting in the hotel queue. ;-)

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                                                                        Church Brew Works & Restaurant
                                                                        3525 Liberty Ave, Pittsburgh, PA 15201

                                                                        Piccolo Forno
                                                                        3801 Butler St, Pittsburgh, PA 15201

                                                                        Pizzaiolo
                                                                        703 Washington Rd, Pittsburgh, PA 15228

                                                                        1. re: CrazyOne

                                                                          Thanks CrazyOne. Just what I needed to know. I have just about given up getting cabs to restaurants in mid-sized towns (i.e. places other than NYC, Chicago etc.) It is always a big pain to get back, often expensive, and it raises my expectations of the restaurant because it is so much trouble. But for good pizza I will probably make an exception :-))

                                                                          1. re: sfdoc

                                                                            The good news about Dinette was that the food was very good. Pizza was stellar and the salad was also great. The wine by the glass was good and about as reasonably priced as they get these days.

                                                                            The bad news was that it is not so easy to get here if you are from out of town. The cab driver had no idea where it was (even on the phone to dispatch) and she dropped me in the area at my request so I could just use my iPhone to find it. The valet parking guy at a restaurant 100 feet away had no idea either. Turns out it is above a Kinkos and across the parking lot from a Border's. Service rather perfuncctory and if you are looking for interesting atmosphere or a cool vibe this is not the place. There is a bus that goes nearby that I took back. Would never have found a cab.

                                                                            1. re: sfdoc

                                                                              You can never get a cab without calling for it. The verb "hail" does not appear in the same sentence the noun "cab" in Pittsburgh, except in quotes in a sentence like this one. 412-321-8100 is the number to call, or look for http://www.pghtrans.com/yellow_cab.cfm.

                                                                              If you're still here, I recommend the pizza at Piccolo Forno. It's not available by the slice. You have to come in and eat, and bring your own bottle of wine, but the food is quite nice. I like their lasagna better than any I've had in Pgh. It's made with fresh pasta, Bolognese and Besciamella, like Marcella's. But their pizza is wonderful, too.

                                                                              I've never been to Dinette. I do most of my eating out at lunch, and they're only open for dinner.

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                                                                              Piccolo Forno
                                                                              3801 Butler St, Pittsburgh, PA 15201

                                                                              1. re: sfdoc

                                                                                Well, I did warn you about the getting there and back aspect. :-) And I tried to give a landmark, although you probably didn't have access to this info when you were actively looking for the place. I was going for best food in that suggestion not vibe/atmosphere, as that seemed to be the question at hand. I thought the service was fine last time, but then that's somewhat subjective.

                                                                        2. Betos on Banksville Road since 1961.

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                                                                          1. re: boss hogg

                                                                            YES.

                                                                            Although it is definitely a far different school of pizza (to which DiCarlo's belongs). In this type of pizza, the pie is cooked in a rectangular pan, and the toppings and cheese are applied when removed from the oven. The heat of the pizza is what melts the cheese, not the heat of the oven.

                                                                            It's definitely not for everyone, but I love it. And judging by how busy they are on a Friday night (and the fact that in nearly 50 years of existence, they have *never* delivered), a lot of people agree with us.

                                                                            1. re: bagofwater

                                                                              Beto's is definitely a Pittsburgh thing. If you're from anywhere between Philly and Maine, I'd suggest you cross it off your list. It's not pizza as any northeasterner would understand. If you must, avoid the mushrooms. They're canned and they don't really warm up much.

                                                                            2. re: boss hogg

                                                                              I second Betos for good pizza, fresh salads and a great beer selection.

                                                                              1. re: Dingod

                                                                                Are you sure you're not thinking of Bado's on Beverly Rd? They've got the beer selection.

                                                                                1. re: Panini Guy

                                                                                  Panini Guy, you're right. I'm thinking of that one.

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                                                                                  Panini's
                                                                                  317 Market St, Philadelphia, PA 19106