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Jun 30, 2004 11:59 PM


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Hi, I'm a transplanted New Yorker and just moved to Philly. Can you tell me what comes close to the Carnegie Deli in New York? Thanks

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  1. Can't help you on the deli, but I have to comment on your subject line. This is my principal grammar peeve - people using an apostrophe where the possesive is not intended. What's up with that?

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    1. re: Dr. Phil

      Don't worry about your grammar, there probably won't be a test (only from neurotic, anal readers) Every neighborhood has their fave deli ... but on the Main Line Hymie's and Murray's vie (Hymie is more expensive, like NY, Murray is more relaxed) In West Phila. Koch's (on 42 or 43rd and Locust I think) is a wonderful, venerable institution for delishisness...but you can't sit there, only take out sandwiches. The NE has delis, some are just take out spots too... although the last time I went up Bustleton, I think Abe&Sons was out of business??!! Can someone correct this fact? And in the city, Famous on 4th and Bainbridge is OK but over-rated... evrytime they film a movie in town, the stars eat there for deli....

      1. re: elmom

        Abe&Sons, at 7410 Bustleton Ave, is definitely NOT out of business. Go there for the best smoked fish selection outside of NYC.

        1. re: elmom

          Just took out from Abe and sons for a weekend brunch.
          It seemed to be cleaner and fresher than my visit about six monts ago. While they have excellent meats like BarBQ pastrami and fatty or lean corned beef and great chopped liver.....The The Fishes are the main draw.
          We bought some excellent Nova, smoked sturgeon, and Kippered (sp?) Salamon. What I loved was watching the skilled Deli guys thinly hand slice these items with a precision that has been lost in newer generations. Also, great soups, kasha and bow ties, Whitefish salad , Bagels breads and even good Knishes (not New York stryle and not as good as Lipkins on Rhawn street) They also sell Barrel Pickles and tomatoes from K-Z and Dr. Browns sodas. One last note, Take out only and Saturdays are packed but worth the wait. It is on Bustelton Ave past cottman in the strip Mall with a Lees's Hoagie (across from a Jim's Steaks outpost) A one stop cholesterol area. Definitey a winner and must try

      2. What area of town or the burbs are you interested in?

        1. Try Kibitz in the City, 700 block of Chestnut, one sandwich feeds two. Or Famous at Fourth And Bainbridge, lots of old time ambience, though I wish the housekeeping was a little better.

          1. Al, as a transplanted NYer myself (by way of Boston, which is even worse for deli), I can assure you that nothing here comes close. For oversized samwiches with good meat, Koch's and Kibitz are the best, with Murray's a close third. But the pickles suck. And so does everything else. Bagels are commercially produced and much too big and bread-like.

            1. As Susan said, nothing here comes close to NY delis.

              There are some places for decent deli takeout. My husband likes to take a run (by car) to the northeast, to Famous on Krewstown Rd.
              We live in the Fairmount area, and Kleins, in the Philadelphian, has pretty good lox and corned beef. Little Pete's, the diner-like eatery here, makes a good corned beef special - not thick and warm, but good.

              Philly specializes in small, chef-owned places that are BYOB. We have some delightful places - Django, Matyson - which you'll get to know.

              Also, many small, terrific Italian BYOB's.