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  • kari Dec 17, 2001 09:54 PM
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I'm looking for feedback re: an idea for a cooking show

i'm a 26 yr old female chef, been cooking for the past 6 yrs
professionally. i recently have been offered funding for a cooking show.
my idea is somewhere between carrie bradshaw meets jamie oliver. the
focus
is great basic food that can be cooked at home, geared towards the
young urban kid into free range and organic, as we all are. how to throw
a dinner party for your friends, or if you have a hot date, or if your folks
come into town. this is of course with an edgey banter of
the young single girl chef, who went out drinking way too late, went to
see this band play and oh wait that club has great sushi! or the hors
doeuvres at the marc jacobs trunk show were super yummy...

most kqed cooking shows are great yet boring, bay cafe
makes me yawn, i mean i work 6 nights a week, i hardly watch cooking
shows, yet i know a lot of people do, and i think this could be fun.

please give me any feedback

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  1. I don't fully understand your transmission, but, by jimminy, I like it. Speaking as a older person, I like your spunk. Let us know where you are cooking. I'll be there.

    1. My partner and i kept a food/meal diary for several months and called it EAT ME, named after the rather prurient book by Linda Jaivin. Sexy food and cooking. I think it'd make a nice theme for a cooking show. I've worked (as a designer/typesetter) on several cookbook projects that seem to touch on what you're talking about, too. Somewhere in between "how to entertain cheaply and well" and "what to do when you're tired and broke and there's only a can of tuna and some green beans in the kitchen."

      The proliferation of web cams, porn and otherwise, in recent years has often made me think of placing a web cam on the ceiling above my stove with a live feed, so that whatever is cooking would be broadcast in real time.

      so, there's some feedback. what do you think?

      yours

      patrick

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        stett holbrook

        You could be on to something. Presenting cooking and eating as part of a hip, urbane lifestyle could resonate with viewers. Why not push the cooking show genre a little toward the edge? I'd watch a show about meals to cure hangovers or aphrodisiac dinners. As long as the food is in the foreground and the dialogue lively, I think people would tune in.
        That said, I find most cooking shows extremely irritating, the Naked Chef especially. Oliver cooks good food but he is painful and phony to watch. Like when he's cooking and one one his mates just happens to ring the doorbell and he slides down the railing to answer the door. Is it a cooking show or a sitcom? Please don't do anything like that. Just be real, have fun and cook good food.
        And if you're looking for a writer, let's talk.

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        1. re: stett holbrook

          How funny!
          I was just flipping through channels late last night and saw a show EXACTLY like this on Cable Access! That is Crazy! The show was Called Bitchin Kitchen. And It was pretty funny, apparently all the girls were hungover and they were making breakfast food for hangover cures. One of them even had a boy there that she had picked up the night before. They covered the finer points of making bacon and showed a bunch of different recipes for cooking for a crowd.
          I guess there is a trend going on for a "New" style of cooking show.

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            Rochelle McCune

            Does anyone remember Feast or Famine? That show rocked!!! It was on Cable Access a couple of years ago. It was two young chefs. They would show up at people's house and make dinner out of whatever was there. (This was pre-Door Knock Dinner.) It was hysterical, mostly because they would show up with "Big Red" - a cooler full of beer and frequently you would see a bong in the background shots at the end of the show. Plus, they went to SF apartments full of young hipsters.

            The food was sometimes really great and sometimes scary. In one episode, one chef just gave up and was drinking with the hosts while the other chef sat on the kitchen floor crying "they don't have anything, there is nothing in this kitchen." It was the chemistry of the two chefs that really made it great.

            1. re: Rochelle McCune

              oh my gawd! feast or famine was such a great show. i've been out of the bay area for a while, so i haven't had the chance to see it. their website is no longer up either, which suggests the show is really dead. last i heard, they were being courted by hollyweird and trying to introduce the show to a national audience. i just don't understand - emeril can get a show, but mike and stu can't. life just isn't fair.

              oh well. "big red" was great, but my favorite part was when they used to dry-hump each other after a few cases of beer. now that's what i call entertainment.

              memories...

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          michael (mea culpa)

          Would you mind moving to Los Angeles? We could use your talents/spirit here.

          1. I guess the idea could work, but my first instinct is: use caution! It could easily get too cutesy, or cloying. I think maybe it was the combination of "trunk show" with "super yummy" that put me off. I think the reason Jamie Oliver puts so many people off is because he just seems so dang full of himself. You should also think of who your audience would be. I think that, like you, most hipster twentysomethings STILL wouldn't watch a cooking show, so it would probably be mostly voyeurs. I could see the single angle working. Just don't make it "I know, we'll do a GEN X cooking show!" It has to be more than that. And if it just happens to be made by a twentysomething, good for you!
            One of the best cooking shows I've ever seen was Molly O'Neill going around to different neighborhoods in New York and cooking with the locals.

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            1. re: Dumpling

              I agree with Dumpling -- when I first read the message, the concept sounded too gimmicky. Plus, the Marc Jacobs trunk show reference seemed more NY and not quite right for the Bay Area. However, I have friends who would be interested in a show like that, so maybe it would be successful.

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              Janet A. Zimmerman

              First, I should say that I'm not typical in my television viewing habits, either cooking shows or mainstream shows, so my opinion is probably not widespread. I'm also well past my 20's (past my 30's, for that matter) so I'm obviously not in the market you're trying to appeal to.

              That being said, I still must admit that your idea simply makes me shudder. Jamie Oliver's show is my candidate for *the* most annoying on the Food Network, and anything modeled on it would most likely affect me the same way. I'd turn it off faster than Dr. Jang's dentist office ads.

              But, as I said, I'm neither young nor hip, so what do I know?

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                Ralph Marcucio

                I have to say I was into watching cooking shows (good, bad, cutesy) throughout my twenties and into my thirties. I love seeing what people cook. The show that got me into watching cooking shows was "Flloyd on Fish" from the UK. Flloyd basically drank his way through kitchens along the English coast while locals cooked these incredible regional meals for him. There are enough shows that teach people recipes, but too few that show people actually enjoying food. I would love to see more shows illustrating regional cuisine as well as other regioanl products (cheeses like Voucharin, and potables like Pastis). Just my two cents if I were in charge.

                Ralph

                1. Sounds like a great idea to me! Personally, I'd go a little slower on the 'sex in the city' theme and faster on the 'cooking what you want when you want it, for whom and how you want it' idea. The hot date idea is great, and I'd also include some ideas on cooking for yourself--there are too few good cookbooks out there for cooking for 1.
                  And... if you need any help, of ANY kind, what you've been offered is pretty much a dream of mine, so please contact me!

                  thanks, and good luck--
                  Lydia