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Sep 20, 2001 02:12 AM


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Kudos to both Lauren and Andrew for putting together a terrific dinner at Authentic Turkish Cuisine in Voorhees, NJ, and a welcome relief from the events of the past week. It was a great bread-breaking, with awesome appetizers, plates and plates of them, spicy pepper salad, a smoky eggplant salad, silken babganoush, light refreshing tabbouleh, even LIVER (liver!)here, served as an appetizer with pickled onion was totally delish!

The entrees were equally impressive,a wide variety of kebobs and roasted veggies rice pilafs and cous cous, wrapped in a nice bow of baklava and halvah, smmoth and nutty and sweet.

Nice to see several new faces as well. Cant wait for the next DDC dinner in October--Habla espaniol?

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  1. how about portuguese instead?
    or maybe filipino?
    related, but different.
    cusines i have less experience with nonetheless.
    hopefully acceptable to everyone else.

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    1. re: herb

      The next dinner will be in October at Tierra Colombiana. I will be contacting the restaurant to make the arrangements in the next few days. I'll keep all of you posted as soon as I have the date and details worked out. Hope everyone is looking forward to it as much as I am!

      Kudos again for lasts night's dinner! Everything was delicious and it was a lot of fun! It was great to meet everyone that was there...

    2. For those who missed Jim Leff's Monday, Sept. 17th home-page opener, here it is. I think it's an important issue we can help with. What about a listing of local Middle Eastern Restaurants by PA chowhounds, plus picking a Middle Eastern venue for the next DDC?

      Leff writes...

      "We've always tried mightily to sidestep political issues on this site, but we are living in an extraordinary moment, and there are things we chowhounds can do to help. Prayer and candlelighting are well and good, but your friendly local Middle-Eastern restaurateurs need your help and support, and they need it NOW. These friends and neighbors are horrified, sickened, ashamed...and terrified, as a modern-day kristalnacht looms. Please heed a Chowhound "Call to Eat". Two messages, one at and another at outline a plan to fight hatred one falafal ball at a time."

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      1. re: Gwenne Lally

        Turkey: located in Southwestern Asia, bordering the Black Sea, between Bulgaria and Georgia, and bordering the Aegean Sea and the Mediterranean Sea, between Greece and Syria.

        The population of Turkey is more than 99% Moslem.

        Are you suggesting that this month's choice wasn't sufficiently Islamic or Middle Eastern?

        I'm a little fuzzy on this whole "call to dine Middle Eastern" thing. What cuisines "count" in that effort? Moroccan? Lebanese? Anything with chickpeas in it? Anyplace with a star and crescent on the menu?? Any restaurant owner who "looks" Moslem? And how about Pakistan? That's South Asia, and there's no falafel there, but that's exactly the part of the world where we're setting our sights. In all senses of that phrase.

        Just as there are no nation-state villains in this conflict, there are certainly no clear candidates for restaurant solidarity.

        Sorry for addressing politics on this regional board. If you want to continue the discussion, let's move it to Not About Food.


        1. re: suky

          I apologize if I offended anyone with my post. I just thought the idea of supporting restaurant owners and workers who might be suffering from extreme predjudice right now was a good one. Perhaps it was naive of me, but I did not think a Turkish restaurant would be having trouble.

          1. re: Gwenne Lally

            Gwenne and Suky,

            Per my posting on the Site Talk board, we're trying not to do the politics thing.

            If you know a good Middle Eastern (HOWEVER you choose to construe that, geographically) restaurant --or any OTHER restaurant, for that matter!--deserving wider patronage, by all means, do the chowhoundish thing and tell us about it!

            But let's leave the politics out of it. It leads to escalatingly attackish postings and hurt feelings, and we aim to be a haven from all that. And we can all use a haven these days.


            1. re: Jim Leff
              Barb Cohan-Saavedra

              I am the co-owner of a fine-dining restaurant (NOT middle eastern) in Philadelphia and think that the idea of supporting restaurants that may be shunned by bigots is a wonderful idea. Most restaurant business is "off" in the wake of recent events and probably more so in those serving Middle Eastern food. Let me recommend to you the delightful KABUL, run by a lovely Afghan family. Kabul is at 106 Chestnut Street in Center City Philadelphia, telephone 215-922-3676. Be sure to try their scallion cakes!

              1. re: Barb Cohan-Saavedra

                Thanks for the restaurant tip. We're trying to stay away from the political stuff these days, but we're always glad to hear about good places to eat--Middle Eastern or otherwise!

                by "scallion cakes", do you mean the leek/scallion dumplings (steamed, not fried) called "aushak"? If so, they're my faves, too!

                1. re: Jim Leff
                  Barb Cohan-Saavedra

                  I think that's what they are. I do know that they're wonderful! My knowledge of Middle Eastern food is not as extensive as I'd like, but I know that this place is a winner. It's a "good eating" restaurant as opposed to "fine dining" and that's just fine with me! I first went there for a friend's 40th birthday party and really didn't know what to expect. What a pleasant surprise. They're also really good about accommodating large parties, too - we were about 16 strong and it was even more fun as we were able to sample more dishes that way.

                  1. re: Barb Cohan-Saavedra

                    Even if you knew Middle Eastern cuisine, you'd only tangentially know Afghan. There's a unique culinary sensibility. I mean...everything is CLEARLY traceable to Persian and/or Indian roots, there are very few dishes which don't strongly evoke analogs in neighboring countries, but there's a tell-tale touch to Afghan food that's unmistakeable, and which I really love a lot (and those aushak are near the top of my list!).

                    I'm lucky enough to be friends with my favorite Indian cookbook author, whose career is staked on her expertise in all matters culinarily Indian (though she knows everything about other foods, too). One time I worked up the courage to tell her that I found Afghan food a bit friendlier, a bit "cleaner" (not in terms of, like, hygiene, but in terms of flavor transparency). There's less ghee, less heat, less broad combinations of spices. It's both simpler and subtler, and I never get tired of it the way I do of a lot of Indian food. (I knew she wouldn't take offense, 'cuz she knows what an enormous fan/student of all things Indian I am)

                    Much to my surprise, she unequivocably agreed.

                    It's real important to move beyond the kebabs which these places tend to feature on their menus and even in their restaurant names. The good stuff's the appetizers, the stews (palows and chalows), the rice (the more rice they serve you, the more authentic the restaurant...Afghans, like Iranians, eat mountains of the stuff), and the hard-to-acquire-but-worth-it taste of "dough", the herbal yogurt drink. And anything with pumpkin.


                  2. re: Jim Leff

                    I haven't been there in a long time, maybe a year or so, but I would definitely recommend Kabul as well. We first went there when Shivnanda, the Indian place a few doors down was closed for the evening, but Kabul was still open. It is a great little place, and BYO, which is often nice. I love that strip of Chestnut Street, there are many good ethnic choices, Kabul, Shivnanda, Brasil's, and while I have never been there, I have heard that Mexican Post is very good, too.

        2. Sorry we couldn't the Turkish Dinner due to business obligations. Looking forward to the next outing. Please send us an invitiation!

          Anna & Tom Casetta