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Bob W. Apr 19, 2006 01:21 PM

Shouldn't CC be included in the discussion? They have, I believe, four locations in the area now.

On my last visit (it's been a while) I ate one of their one-pound (or was it 20 oz.?) burgers just to get my pic on the wall. It went down quite easily, as did the fries and, especially, the onion rings.

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    johnb RE: Bob W. Apr 19, 2006 01:34 PM

    But did you like it?

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      Bob W. RE: johnb Apr 19, 2006 02:19 PM

      Best 20-oz burger I've ever had. 8>D

      Yes, it was good. Pretty juicy, IIRC. Plenty of worthwhile toppings too. I'd like to see them open some locations in Virginia so I can get my hands on those onion rings without making a trip to Maryland.

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      Spike RE: Bob W. Apr 19, 2006 07:52 PM

      Elevation beats the pants off of 5 Guys. I haven't tried CC yet.

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        The Other Antonius RE: Bob W. Apr 19, 2006 10:23 PM

        I have a real problem with CC as well as Fuddruckers...they use frozen patties. At least five guys makes their own right in front of you...

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          wg RE: The Other Antonius Apr 20, 2006 03:34 PM

          I'd rather have a frozen patty than one that gets all the juice pressed out of it. 5 Guys makes a big deal about only pressing their burgers once. It's really easy to press ALL the juice out of a patty in one press.

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            juliamt RE: The Other Antonius Jun 22, 2007 07:30 PM

            Cheeburger Cheeburger does not use frozen patties. That could not be farther from the truth. They use fresh Black Angus beef, that is delivered to their stores four times a week. The patties are made before each shift, I went to one and talked to the owner about how much I hate frozen meat. He brought me to the window where they were cutting the fresh meat.

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              juliamt RE: The Other Antonius Jun 23, 2007 11:00 AM

              I know an ownwer of a CC, I know for a fact that they do not use a frozen patty.... it is brought in fresh daily and it is certified black angus beef !

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                Ziv RE: juliamt Jun 26, 2007 08:02 AM

                Julia, I think the meat industry boasting about using Black Angus is their effort to make a silk purse out of a sows ear. Black Angus are very popular with ADM and other feed lot owners because they throw healthy, light calves and then tolerate crowding and filthy conditions of the feed lots. Buying beef that is from a feedlot isn't what I think of as being premium meat. My mother is still in the business, I love beef, but I am not too impressed with the certified black angus campaign.

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              Sal Monella RE: Bob W. Apr 20, 2006 11:00 AM

              I haven't been to Elevation yet (hurry up & open one in MD or DC please!) but I much prefer Chee'burger Chee'burger to 5 Guys, even the fries.
              (My very fave fries in suburban MD are CC & Urban BBQ)

              CC is more expensive than 5 Guys & it's table service, but if I'm short on cash, I get a $5.50 kids meal to go (for an extra $1 you can upgrade your kids meal drink to a milkshake. They have dozens of yummy shakes)

              They just opened a CC in Olney...

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                Pork Belly RE: Bob W. Apr 20, 2006 11:22 AM

                I feel the pain of all those who are waiting for one or more of these to open near their homes. I live in MD near Friendship Heights and NONE of these burger places have locations nearby - not in restaurant-heavy Bethesda, not in Chevy Chase, not in upper NW DC. What gives? I understand the higher rents but we have lots of low cost and fast food eateries in the area. But nothing like this. Put any of these burger places in Bethesda and there will be a line out the door.

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                  Mike RE: Pork Belly Apr 20, 2006 01:26 PM

                  I waffle back and forth between Five Guys and Elevation. There are things that I like better at each one but I'm not going to get just a burger at one and just fries at the other, I get a mean, so it sort of depends on whether I'm in it for the food or the junk.

                  I've never tried Cheeburger Cheeburger. I've heard that there are a few around the area now, but I don't know where they are, and with 5 Guys and Elevation just a few minutes away, I don't want to make a big deal out of getting a burger. Where's the closest CC to Falls Church?

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                    Bob W. RE: Mike Apr 20, 2006 02:43 PM

                    Looks like the one I've been to -- on Shady Grove Rd in Rockville -- is the closest one to Falls Church.

                    According to the CC Web site, they have Virginia outposts in Richmond and Williamsburg.

                    Wonder why they are avoiding NOVA.

                    Link: http://www.cheeburgercheeburger.com/l...

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                      Mike RE: Bob W. Apr 20, 2006 04:08 PM

                      I can freshly grind the meat, fire up the charcoal grill, and make my own quicker than I can go to Rockville. Guess Cheeburger Cheeburger will have to wait a while to get my seal of approval.

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                        Mike RE: Bob W. Apr 20, 2006 04:09 PM

                        I can freshly grind the meat, fire up the charcoal grill, and make my own quicker than I can go to Rockville. Guess Cheeburger Cheeburger will have to wait a while to get my seal of approval.

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                          flavrmeistr RE: Mike Jun 26, 2007 09:29 PM

                          You can say that again.

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                      Andrew RE: Pork Belly Apr 20, 2006 01:36 PM

                      There's a Five Guys sign in one of the windows of the Mama Lucia's on Elm Street in Bethesda. I've only seen it driving by and haven't read it closely, but it seems to me that a 5G may be coming into a space there on Elm in Bethesda. I can only hope...I'm tired of trucking out to the Kentlands or to Georgetown for a burger.

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                        Pork Belly RE: Andrew Apr 20, 2006 03:42 PM

                        Excellent, thanks! They'll do great there.

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                          chris f RE: Andrew Apr 20, 2006 03:47 PM

                          I saw a 5G sign in the Rockville Mama's last night.

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                            hm RE: chris f Apr 20, 2006 06:09 PM

                            They put up the signs because the same ownership group that runs Mamma Lucia is running the new Five Guys in Gaithersburg/Germantown.

                            Don't know where their rights start and end, but I have heard that there is a Five Guys going onto Shady Grove Road in the Home Depot Shopping Center (The end where the bagel place used to be).

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                              Pork Belly RE: hm Apr 21, 2006 08:41 AM

                              Bummer. Looks like we're back to square one.

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                                johnb RE: Pork Belly Apr 21, 2006 11:16 AM

                                I continue to be amazed that no one has opened one in the new Silver Spring downtown area.

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                                  toro_cooks RE: Pork Belly Jun 25, 2007 02:04 PM

                                  I know it's a late post, but there's a 5 Guys on Wisconsin and Dumbarton. A bit of a hike, for sure.

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                            dinwiddie RE: Pork Belly Apr 21, 2006 03:58 PM

                            Apparently a Cheeburger Cheeburger just opened in Olney.

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                              qdchair RE: dinwiddie Aug 24, 2007 10:05 AM

                              There's a cheeburger Cheeburger and Five guys in Shady Grove. I have to try Cheeburger. I heard it's really good esp. their onion rings. yum!

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                            Tim RE: Bob W. Apr 28, 2006 04:55 PM

                            I, too, tackled the 20 oz burger. Juicy and delicious. I'm sure the meat is fresh. And the fresh-cut fries and onion rings, yummy, too!

                            I've always loved Five Guys but prefer CC.

                            Elevation Burger - went there once and that was enough. Burger was so dry and tasteless. Fries, not my style. The milkshake, however, was great. Nice and thick (but not too thick). I'd never go there again.

                            So in order of preference:

                            (1) Cheeburger Cheeburger (just love saying the name!)
                            (2) Five Guys
                            (3) Elevation Burger (only because I had to rank it)

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                              chevychasemdguy RE: Tim Jun 28, 2007 09:03 AM

                              I agree -the shakes at Elevation are awesome. However, I did like the fries too - I thought they were the best fries I've had in a long time. As with anything though, I probably got the product in my hand at the opportune time. They were hot and seasoned and the olive oil added just enough flavor - but they were still fries. Unfortunately, the buger was dry and tasteless. To be fair, I've had dry and tasteless at 5 Guys and I've had juicy and wonderful burgers at 5 Guys too. In a perfect world they would replicate the same product time and time again so you would know exactly what you're getting.

                            2. ktmoomau RE: Bob W. Jun 23, 2007 11:39 AM

                              Never been to elevation, but love CC over five guys. They not only have fresh burgers, but fresh cut fries and onion rings mmmmm. Plus you can get all types of toppings much more than any other burger place in the area. There is one in Annapolis in the Riva Road shopping center which I used to frequent, but I am excited about the new MoCo locations! I hope they are just as good. Plus they have really good milkshakes, I especially like the caramel chocolate milkshake, but I have a major sweet tooth.

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                                Antonio Montana RE: ktmoomau Jun 23, 2007 02:12 PM

                                "Never been to elevation, but love CC over five guys. "

                                thats how i feel. what i absolutely HATE about 5 guys is that you CANNOT get a medium temperature burger. everything is well done. ugh

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                                  Bob W RE: Antonio Montana Jun 23, 2007 07:25 PM

                                  and now there's Foster's Grille in the mix too.

                                  Five Guys, meanwhile, is opening up new locations faster than I can type.

                                  Still waiting for a Cheeburger Cheeburger in NoVa.

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                                    WARojas RE: Bob W Jun 26, 2007 10:31 AM

                                    There's supposed to be a Cheeburger Cheeburger in Sterling by early 2008, but corporate says they could be open as early as this December--assuming everything falls perfectly into place.

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                                  Pool Boy RE: ktmoomau Jun 25, 2007 01:30 PM

                                  I think CC is vastly overrated. That said, I don't think Five Guys is all that great either. Surely still better than most/all fast food, but nothing special (save for the variety of toppings). I actually like their fires a lot and prefer them over the actual burger itself. Never been to an 'Elevation'....locations please?

                                  At the end of the day, too, it is so easy to make a fantastic burger at home that this is where I usually consume my burgers (80%+ of the time).

                                  www.roguefood.com

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                                    Bob W RE: Pool Boy Jun 25, 2007 02:24 PM

                                    There's only one Elevation Burger so far. It's in Falls Church on S. Washington St (Rte. 29), just down from Super Chicken and Victor's Grill (the cardiologist's best friend).

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                                      Pool Boy RE: Bob W Jun 25, 2007 07:02 PM

                                      Thanks....I just discovered that someone (not me) posted (elsewhere) about a not so great experience there a while ago.

                                      "...I read about this place in a Washington City Paper write-up last month where they wrote that "the geniuses behind Elevation Burger in Falls Church are rewriting the gourmet-burger rules."....Well, last week I tried it and last week I almost died.....Believe it or not, I refrain from ever posting really negative things about restaurants (especially unique, non-chain ones whose moxie in going out there alone should be praised) but, honest to God, this place was awful....The first thing that took me back was that the apparent "fresh fries" are saturated, well "cooked" in friggin' olive oil. Eww. OK, I get peanut oil for fries. Makes perfect sense. But thick, higher heat-threshold olive oil?? What? Did motor oil come in a close second. The fries where literally shiny from EVOO and slimy as all get out. Again, blech....Secondly, the burgers -- and a disclosure here which I'm sure will get some (hopefully not olive oil-covered) tomatoes thrown my way -- I don't eat beef. I love turkey burgers and love (certain) veggie burgers. And, yes, Elevation Burger's "specialty" is a burger "made with organic Virginia Kobe beef," but as the City Paper piece purported, Elevation Burger is an "up-and-coming enterprise boasting an all-organic menu" featuring both "Veggie Burger # 1" (which, according to the menu, "tastes sort of like meat" and "Veggie Burger # 2" which, again, according to the menu, "tastes like veggies"). I opted for number one which, ahem, tasted like, well...number one. (One need not imagine, therefore, what number two tastes like.) The burger was chemically tasting and was only made worse by the ice-cold, Thousand Island-like "Elevation Sauce" literally smothering such burger. Again, blech.....This is all such a shame as the place was clean, unique, had great service and prices (Veggie Burgers were $ 2.29 and Kobe beef burgers were also $ 2.29) as well as independent-minded sodas from IBC and Boylan but count me in as someone whom would travel 12 miles further into DC for a turkey burger and fries at Ben's Chili Bowl then go back to Elevation.....You beef eaters out there, prove me wrong. I'd love to hear that the Kobe burgers at Elevation are to die for. Otherwise, count me out....(Olive oil?? wacko.gif What were they thinking??)..."

                                      Oy!!

                                      www.roguefood.com

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                                        divinemsk RE: Pool Boy Jun 26, 2007 07:31 AM

                                        Sorry, that person has no idea what he's talking about.

                                        First, olive oil actually has a lower heat threshold than peanut oil. And slimy is not a word I'd use to describe the delicious crispy fries from Elevation Burger! Perhaps he got the food via carryout and drove all the way back home before eating? I have noticed that (like all fries) they are better eaten on site, or taken home and heated up in a hot oven.

                                        Second, vegetarians reviewing burger joints??? Um, hell no.

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                                          Pool Boy RE: divinemsk Jun 26, 2007 08:51 AM

                                          I actually know this person and generally trust his food opinions (though the not eating beef is weird -- he's not a vegetarian strictly speaking, you'll note he likes turkey among other things).

                                          But, IIRC, he ate everything on site. So the fries were nasty even on site. Don't you typically want your fries to be crisp? Isn't olive oil more problematic to cook with as opposed to peanut oil (which has a higher heating and smoking point?)?

                                          And as for reviewing the place or not because he doesn't eat beef, well, I have to disagree with you there partially. I agree that he cannot comment on the burgers themselves that are beef, but he's certainly capable of commenting on what he was served -- which is something on the menu, right?

                                          I'll have to make my own mind up whenever I eventually try the place and eat the real beef burgers myself.

                                          Thanks

                                          www.roguefood.com

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                                            toro_cooks RE: Pool Boy Jun 26, 2007 10:28 AM

                                            I agree that peanut oil is generally superior to olive oil when frying large volumes of food (pounds of fries, turkeys, etc.). In smaller quantities, however, I use olive oil almost exclusively in the kitchen. I get great fries (healthy too!) at home, in a deep pan of olive oil. Unfortunately, oils like these have a smoke point too low to have commercial viability of oils that can tolerate heat better. Therefore you'll most likely get slimy fries when dining out only because the oil isn't kept hot enough. Not because of the type of oil, in and of itself.

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                                            MikeR RE: divinemsk Jun 26, 2007 09:14 AM

                                            Elevation cuts their potatoes fairly skinny (some people praise the "shoestring" fries) and they tend to get cold and limp very fast. They're fine for the first couple of minutes but after that they're pretty unexciting. An order is probably best shared between two people who are fast eaters.

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                                              Ziv RE: divinemsk Jul 2, 2007 08:01 PM

                                              Divine, I love burgers, and I see positives in both 5 Guys and Elevation, but Elevations fries are not what they used to be. I don't know whether it is EVOO or a lack of time, but Elevation fries are shiny and oily, as opposed to golden and crisp, like they used to be. Elevation used to have a soupy burger ( too much special sauce) , with a great shake and a good side of fries. Now they have a soupy burger with a good shake and an oily side of fries.
                                              5 Guys is still making rather good burgers, has great peanuts, decent fries and a fairly good atmosphere.

                                              This having been said, I did look at the Elevation Half The Guilt Burger and think that I might give it a try...

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                                                Bob W RE: Ziv Aug 24, 2007 10:10 AM

                                                I work so close to Elevation I can -- even with my rag arm -- throw a ball from the sidewalk in front of our building to the Elevation parking lot. I promise to get back there next week and see if the fries have indeed gone downhill. The last time I was there they were indeed golden and crisp. And I guess I'll "have to" try one of their shakes too.

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                                      eatlotsfood RE: Bob W. Jun 25, 2007 01:02 PM

                                      Been to 5 guys and Elevation - have not been to CC.

                                      I think that 5 guys is a good 'chain' burger now. I think quality of the cooking has gone down since they have opened up shop everywhere.

                                      Fries at 5 guys (taste and quantity) are fantastic.

                                      Elevation burger - I was very excited to eat here. I had a so-so first experience, a so-so 2nd experience, and a so-so 3rd experience. Small burgers, They use VA raised kobe beef for their patties. Kobe beef burgers just don't seem to have long term legs in my book - seems very flavor of the month. The operation also seemed to be still in the learning phase - they always seem to run out of fries and one of they guys has to jump back to crank out cutting up potatoes.

                                      The Conclusion -
                                      I will take a 5 guys burger and fries over an Elevation kobe burger and fries.

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                                        MsCongeniality RE: Bob W. Jun 25, 2007 01:51 PM

                                        I tried the Cheeburger Cheeburger in Burtonsville this weekend and was pleasantly surprised by both the burger and fries. I think my one disappointment was the chocolate egg cream, and there it was not quality, but quantity. Very expensive for a relatively small glass!

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                                          divinemsk RE: MsCongeniality Jun 25, 2007 01:53 PM

                                          Elevation Burger is the best... especially the fries, thin-cut and fried in olive oil. Fantastic!

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                                          vbarcelona RE: Bob W. Jun 26, 2007 08:48 AM

                                          I haven't been there yet, but I've heard from several people that Urban Burger in Rockville is the best burger in town now. Five Guys hasn't been the same since they've franchised.

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                                            DanielK RE: vbarcelona Jun 26, 2007 08:18 PM

                                            I second Urban Burger. I haven't been to Elevation yet, but I much prefer Urban to Cheeburger Cheeburger or Five Guys.

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                                            yourwhathurts RE: Bob W. Jun 27, 2007 04:22 PM

                                            elevation burgers are very pedestrian and lack any real flavor except the mayo they seem to be slathered in. 5 guys uses ground chuck and a very sweet bun and the contrast between sweet and savory is what works best.

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                                              ybunnygurl RE: Bob W. Jun 27, 2007 10:51 PM

                                              never had CC's, but Elevation kicked the pants off of 5guys. I have eaten 5 guys since they first opened in Alexandria, across from Fridays, and they used to be good but has time progressed and the 5 guys split up it stated to suck, the burgers were often dry and flavor less. I like elevation better for the moment, CC's has none in NOVA... I'm not trecking to MD to get a burger.

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                                                JonParker RE: ybunnygurl Jun 28, 2007 03:52 AM

                                                IMO you'd be disappointed if you did. I really don't understand the CC love. The place is trashy, the fries and onion rings are greasy and the burgers are dry, flavorless and cooked to death. Even the worst Five Guys is better than the best CC.

                                                Of course, I'm fortunate enough to have a local bar two blocks away that serves a burger that's better than either of them. If you wanted to drive up to Federal Hill in Baltimore, you'd find a real burger.

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                                                  hotdoglover RE: JonParker Jun 28, 2007 04:15 AM

                                                  I live in N.J. and Five Guys just expanded into my area. The fries are fantastic and the burgers, though well done, are juicy and delicious. I guess the one near me (Edison, N.J.) may be an exceptionally good one. I agree with Jon Parker that the burgers at CC are dry and flavorless. I'll take 5 Guys anyday.

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                                                linda971 RE: Bob W. Aug 24, 2007 11:58 AM

                                                I've not been to CC but in order of what I think is the best:

                                                Foster's - burger, fries and shakes are good. Service (at least in Sterling) is awesome.
                                                Elevation - burger OK, shakes good and fries weren't good
                                                5 Guys - everything was OK

                                                A new place in McLean - Joe's Burgers isn't too bad, better than Elevation. Tiny place though and no shakes.

                                                1. Bob W RE: Bob W. Aug 29, 2007 11:35 AM

                                                  I finally made it back to Elevation today after a long hiatus. It will be my last visit for a while. A recap:

                                                  Big Phat Burger (Two patties w/cheese): Just ok, a little dry. Carmelized onions barely discernible.
                                                  Fries: Good. I took my food back to my office, which is always risky with fries, but I work just a minute away so they held up pretty well. Portion was good-sized, bigger than I remembered.
                                                  Shake (coffee ice cream w/ choc. syrup and oreos): Very good -- reminded me of Lee's from Baltimore, which is a good thing.

                                                  Here's the problem. Remember getting fast food back in the day (Ok, it's been a while, but still...) and getting change back from a buck? I got change back from a $20! That's right, my fast food meal of a burger, fries, and a shake cost me $12.71 (tax incl.).

                                                  And when the ostensible centerpiece of the meal is the weakest part, that seals the deal (or no deal, in this case).

                                                  1. ktmoomau RE: Bob W. Sep 10, 2007 06:56 AM

                                                    So finally made it back to Cheeburger Cheeburger in Annapolis, man I missed it. I wish Rockville and Annapolis weren't such a drive. Took the BF who swears by five guys.

                                                    I ordered the classic with: lettuce, terriyaki sauce, 2 onion rings, blue cheese and banana peppers mmmmmm. Got it with onion rings, didn't have room for a chocolate, caramel shake or I would have gotten one.

                                                    I forget what type of burger BF ordered, he got fries. All ordered Medium.

                                                    BF afterwards in not wanting to admit CC was better tried to explain it like this: BF: Well CC isn't really a fast food joint. KT: Well we always eat ours in Five Guys we never take it home.
                                                    BF: Well you can't get all the toppings at FG. KT: exactly, and you can't get five guys to cook it to medium. BF: True, but they are making them faster. KT: Agreed.
                                                    BF: Five guys are leaner. KT: Do you just mean not as juicy because they are cooked longer because I think FG is greasier? BF: Well they are just different... you can't compare them. (At this point I knew I had won so I let it go I don't like to push it too much)

                                                    Please Cheeburger Cheeburger open in Arlington!!!!!

                                                    Have yet to try elevation, but it is on my list. I am a Cheeburger loving girl.

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