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Melanie Wong Sep 21, 2001 02:46 AM

Any suggestions for a place to grab a bite after 10pm in the vicinity of the Embassy Suites in Santa Clara?

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    hao Sep 21, 2001 03:02 PM

    this is not the best pho place in santa clara but it is open till midnight daily.

    Pho Hoa
    3484 El Camino Real (by Lawrence Expressway)
    Santa Clara, CA 95051
    (408) 249-8598

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      Melanie Wong Sep 21, 2001 03:35 PM

      A cleansing bowl of pho may be just the ticket after my meeting.

      Hao, maybe you could start another thread and tell us about who you consider the best pho in the area. I'd love to hear your opinion.

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        Burke and Wells Sep 21, 2001 04:18 PM

        Our favorite pho in Santa Clara/Sunnyvale closes at 10:00, I'm sorry to say. We adore it, though. So inexpensive, so friendly!

        California Noodle House, in an unassuming strip mall BEHIND a Burger King off El Camino Real almost at the intersection with Lawrence Expy.

        If you can make it before ten, don't miss out on their Chin (sliced lean brisket with thin noodles in a five-spice broth).

        Admittedly, Burke and I are not experts, or even experienced! Pho is still strange new food to us, but it's hard to get more tasty than this Chin (beware, one visit in five it's a little greasy).

        As for other late night in this area...forget it. Burke and I have searched for YEARS and found nothing of any remark after 10pm. Truly. It's horrible! If you (or anyone else reading this) finds something, please tell us!

        Peter
        wells@emusic.com

        Link: http://www.burkeandwells.com

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          Melanie Wong Sep 21, 2001 06:34 PM

          I'm actually a fan of the EXTRA fatty style of brisket at my fave pho joint. Too bad it's not open late, as I'd love to try a B&W rec. Maybe I'll catch the ice cream man...

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            Burke and Wells Sep 21, 2001 07:55 PM

            You're in luck, Melanie! They also have the extra fatty one! I just can't recall the exact Vietnamese name.

            And the fatty one is even BETTER, but I wasn't sure to suggest it, because I didn't think anyone besides me ever ordered it. Foolish Wells, you're among CHOWHOUNDS, never assume.

            Peter
            wells@emusic.com

            Link: http://www.burkeandwells.com

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              Melanie Wong Sep 21, 2001 08:05 PM

              Brisket is about the uniquely firm fat and chewy connective tissue. There was a flaming post on one of the NY boards about some sort of Asian restaurant that had served the poster fat and gristled beef. The chowhound poster was outraged when the response to her complaint was that Asian (maybe Chinese?) people preferred it that way. She was absolutely positive that this couldn't possibly be true, like who would eat fat and gristle. I meekly posted that indeed it was true, and never got a response. (g)

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                Burke and Wells Sep 21, 2001 08:35 PM

                During her pregnancy with me, my Mom ate so much Chinese food that she was convinced I'd pop out holding a menu!

                Perhaps it's not surprising, then, that I have a such a taste for Asian foods. I long for tripe, drool over uni, and give me that firm, fatty tissue and connective heaven that comes from briskett!

                Can you see why I'm so happy to have found this board? I'm learning more about Asian cuisine here every day than most Euro-Americans get in a lifetime!

                Again, let me restate how much Burke and I love our little pho place, but that we are NOT experts, have done precious little comparison, etc. We like it because it's super cheap ($4.95 for a large), comes with big, plump fresh bean sprouts and basil and lime, and has the best broth we've found. For all I know it's merely adequate pho, and even better is lurking around the corner. Onward!

                Peter
                wells@emusic.com

                Link: http://www.burkeandwells.com

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                  hao Sep 21, 2001 09:00 PM

                  have you and burke tried pho nam? they have two locations in sunnyvale.

                  844 W El Camino Real
                  Sunnyvale, CA 94087
                  (408) 737-1086

                  1205 Wildwood Ave
                  Sunnyvale, CA 94089
                  (408) 730-8106

                  this is my favorite in the sunnyvale/santa clara area but only for their beef pho. california noodle house used to be pho xe lua and they were one of the first pho restaurant in the sunnyvale/santa clara area. i haven't been there since they changed to california noodle house. i will add them to my list of pho places to revisit for my report.

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                    Melanie Wong Sep 22, 2001 12:59 AM

                    Actually, hao, it would be wonderful to hear about any type of Vietnamese restaurant you'd recommend in the South Bay, pho or not. Of course I don't want to put so much on your plate that you never get around to writing it up!

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                  gordon wing Sep 22, 2001 12:05 PM

                  Speaking of chewy fat and connective tissue .... I haven't had beef tendon in a while. Love that texture when it's cooked enough. Sometimes they used to combine it with beef stew/brisket. Does the store on Stockton St. (between Broadway & Pacific) have this? Junmae Guay (sp?)

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                    Melanie Wong Sep 22, 2001 02:20 PM

                    Junmae Guey does have beef tendon (ngo gun) ready-to-eat, but not always. This is a favorite of my dad and I usually get a pound or two for him here when I go home for a visit. Mostly because I always buy a roast duck and don't need to make two stops. However, the version here needs some doctoring. Not always cooked as much as we like, so some extra simmering is needed, plus we add a little more light mushroom soy sauce and hot chili oil. What I do like is that it's not sweetened and it saves us from hours of simmering.

                    If you want to just order a plate to eat on the spot, check out Hon's Wun Tun on Kearney that has been mentioned many times here. Beef tendon over rice or with won ton noodles, it's just about perfect in my book. Not too soft and not too stiff, good seasoning with lots of star anise and an undertone of chili heat.

                    And let me post a message on some brisket and tendon that I had for lunch this week...

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                      gordon wing Sep 23, 2001 06:19 AM

                      thanks for the tendon update...I'll look forward having some next time I'm in SF's Chinatown.

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            hao Sep 21, 2001 06:22 PM

            i've been spoil when it comes pho because i get home cooked pho from my mom and her friends year round. but i do have a couple of favorite places and will post them in the near future. i want to go back and refresh my memory before reporting on them.

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              Melanie Wong Sep 21, 2001 06:27 PM

              You ARE spoiled, Hao. An up-to-the-minute report would be much appreciated when you've finished your rounds.

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                JohnnyP Sep 21, 2001 06:38 PM

                n/t

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