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  <id>154172</id>
  <title>Looking for Japanese recommendations in Boston area</title>
  <published_at>Sun Nov 06 20:47:53 -0800 2005</published_at>
  <post_count>30</post_count>
  <board>
    <id>12</id>
    <name>Boston Area</name>
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    <post>
      <post>
        <level>0</level>
        <id>827936</id>
        <content>I've decided I'm going to go on a Japanese diet for a few  weeks to lose a few pounds (trust me, it's bound to be lower-calorie than my current diet). But I want to have a tasty time at it.
 
So what are the Japanese restaurants and sushi bars I should seek out? I already know about Porter Square, but I'd like to branch out. I live in the Harvard Square area right now, but will travel by public transportation! Brookline and places off the Red Line are ideal.
 
Try to keep it under $30 for dinner and $20 for lunch. Thanks!</content>
        <published_at>Sun Nov 06 20:47:53 -0800 2005</published_at>
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          <name>baleine</name>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>827955</id>
      <content>Takeshima on Harvard Street has decent sushi and dinner entrees. It's maybe a block or two north of Coolidge Corner.
 
Also, for Japanese hot pot, try Shabu Zen in Chinatown. It's a fun eating experience--you have your food cooked right at your table.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Nov 07 09:09:11 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>827936</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>hiddenboston</name>
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    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>827966</id>
      <content>I highly recommend against Takeshima.  I used to go there a lot in the past, but based on an experience I had this Summer, I'd never go back.
 
The total lack of customers on a Saturday evening should've been a red flag, but we went in anyway.  The place reeks of rotting fish and there's a distinct odor of urine coming from the back (from the bathrooms, I'd hope).  When the staff goes to take a smoke in the alley, the smoke wafts in.
 
As far as the food, it ranged from OK to awful.  The high-calorie stuff (tempura) was pretty good.  The sushi was just plain gross... not fresh at all.  I choked down a couple pieces out of politeness but not without worry for my health.  Definitely avoid this place.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Nov 07 09:50:08 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>827955</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>rxrfrx</name>
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    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>3292915</id>
      <content>That's a shame to hear about Takeshima.  Years ago, I think it might have been the only Japanese place in Coolidge Corner, and I used to go there often.   I do agree that the quality has gone south somewhat in  the past couple of years, but my more recent experiences were nowhere as bad as yours.

I did notice cigarette smoke coming in from propped-open doors, and couldn't help but wonder what critters were waltzing into the place as well as every time I walked down that side alley to the big parking lot in back, that side door seemed to be propped open.  </content>
      <published_at>Mon Jan 14 06:48:07 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>827966</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>152667</id>
        <name>Ralphie_in_Boston</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3288358</id>
      <content>As for Shabu Zen, it's fun, but not great.  If you've eaten Shabu Shabu in Japan or at more authentic spots (L.A., NYC) - watch out.  You'll be disappointed.  Food quality is fine, taste is bland.  I've been 2X and they didn't offer dipping sauces??!!??</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jan 12 10:46:57 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>827955</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>156830</id>
        <name>pkbos</name>
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    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>3289561</id>
      <content>Will disagree re Shabu Zen, which is the best shabu place Boston has to offer and is a place I've enjoyed.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jan 12 18:48:38 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3288358</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>76251</id>
        <name>bachslunch</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>3290479</id>
      <content>i LOVE shabuzen. my friends and i grew up eating shabushabu back in asia and this one is the best boston has to offer. it is much higher quality than most of them you'll find in LA &amp; NYC</content>
      <published_at>Sun Jan 13 08:38:23 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3289561</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>127438</id>
        <name>kweesee</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>3297214</id>
      <content>Shabu Zen is definitely the best shabu in Boston - I have had both better and worse in LA. 

You do have to ask for the sesame dipping sauce, but they are always happy to provide it. </content>
      <published_at>Tue Jan 15 09:21:03 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3288358</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>137421</id>
        <name>erican</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>827977</id>
      <content>Sushi 21 on Mt. Auburn St., Watertown.  #71 bus from Harvard Sq. stops almost in front.

Link: http://www.sushi-21.com/lunch.php</content>
      <published_at>Mon Nov 07 11:02:37 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>827936</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Taralli</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>827993</id>
      <content>Check out Umi, on peterborough.... I belive the 55 bus goes right by there, and its right off of the Fenway stop on the D line.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Nov 07 12:23:04 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>827936</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>El J</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>827999</id>
      <content>Mr. Sushi in Arlington Center (Bus #77/79 Harvard or Alewife) is reliably good and reasonable.  Hana sushi in N. Cambridge is pretty good too, though I haven't been there in the past few months.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Nov 07 13:23:17 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>827936</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>rlh</name>
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    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>828000</id>
      <content>Lunch boxes are cheap (12 for sushi, 17 for tons of Sashimi) at Oishii in Chestnut hill and this place by far has the best sushi around. You can get there by D line T to chestnut hill, and a 5 minute walk.
 
Also the food in general is amazing.
 
       -Tz</content>
      <published_at>Mon Nov 07 13:27:25 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>827936</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>Tzonis</name>
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    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>828001</id>
      <content>I was gonna say Oishii (great deal for a huge lunch box) but it's not easily accessible from Harvard.  Coolidge Corner is easy because of the 66 Bus.
 
If the OP wants to get on the D line, by all means, this a great recommendation.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Nov 07 13:30:51 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>828000</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>rxrfrx</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>828019</id>
      <content>Oishii is so good that it's probably worth the hassle to take the Green Line to the Chestnut Hill/Longwood stop. It's a tiny place, though, so seating could be tough, depending on when you go.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Nov 07 16:23:26 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>828001</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>hiddenboston</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>3289568</id>
      <content>Will second Oishii in Chestnut Hill, which I think is still the best standard sushi place locally. O-ya, Oishii Boston, and Uni (sashimi only) are excellent for upscale sushi/sashimi.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jan 12 18:51:40 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>828019</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>76251</id>
        <name>bachslunch</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3290481</id>
      <content>i second oiishi. best sashimi in town</content>
      <published_at>Sun Jan 13 08:38:49 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>828000</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>127438</id>
        <name>kweesee</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>828054</id>
      <content>Sakura Bana on Broad Street in the Financial District.  Lunch can be very difficult, because of the business crowd, but dinner is fantastic.  Plenty of room, good service, and consistently the freshest sushi in Boston (and I've tried other places for the last 7 years.)</content>
      <published_at>Tue Nov 08 13:30:36 -0800 2005</published_at>
      <parent_id>827936</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>0</id>
        <name>JPAF</name>
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    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3288351</id>
      <content>Agree with the Sakura Bana recommendation.  It recently expanded, there is another dining room downstairs now so lunch is not impossible.  Dinner is always easy to get seated.  Consistently fresh, average to great service, and good prices.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jan 12 10:44:39 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>828054</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>156830</id>
        <name>pkbos</name>
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    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3288438</id>
      <content>Gari on Harvard Ave. in Coolidge Corner.  Not cheap but impeccably fresh and  a good deal at lunch.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jan 12 11:25:26 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>827936</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>145206</id>
        <name>SSqwerty</name>
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    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3289800</id>
      <content>So I suppose there's still no place in town that offers okonomiyaki?  Never hurts to ask, but the answer is always no.</content>
      <published_at>Sat Jan 12 20:44:21 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>827936</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>17548</id>
        <name>BarmyFotheringayPhipps</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>2</level>
      <id>3290488</id>
      <content>good question. it is SO SAD that boston doenst really have any authentic japanese food except for sushi. i have never heard of okonomiyaki in boston in my past 8 years year. nor do we have yakiniku or yakitori, or good ramen. its so sad. we dont have one restaurant that looks anything like something you'd find in japan. all we have is sushi or porter square. everytime i go to ny, all i crave is japanese food! </content>
      <published_at>Sun Jan 13 08:41:41 -0800 2008</published_at>
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      <user>
        <id>127438</id>
        <name>kweesee</name>
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    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>3290606</id>
      <content>I disagree about the no good ramen: Ken's is outstanding.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Jan 13 09:35:53 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3290488</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>17548</id>
        <name>BarmyFotheringayPhipps</name>
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    <post>
      <level>3</level>
      <id>3290952</id>
      <content>And in addition to Ken's (which I personally find to be decent, though maybe not always outstanding), Shiki in Coolidge Corner has recently been dishing up some izakaya-style fare.   Not sure if you count yoshoku places as "authentic" (are you just looking for truly washoku options?), but it's been one bright spot in an otherwise pretty bleak japanese scene...</content>
      <published_at>Sun Jan 13 11:52:08 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3290488</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>49653</id>
        <name>another_adam</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>3291364</id>
      <content>Toraya notwithsatnding (I live in Arlington and enjoy it), for even more comprehensive Japanese, try Kyotoya, Montvale Ave., Stoneham.  Great sushi, but also a large Japanese menu.</content>
      <published_at>Sun Jan 13 14:37:13 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3290952</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>25645</id>
        <name>cgj</name>
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    <post>
      <level>4</level>
      <id>3292077</id>
      <content>i have heard good things about shiki, and my japanese hair stylist loves it too. i will def go try in the near future. 

how does ken's compare to the ramen place in porter square. the one in porter is FARRRRR from good ramen you can get in japan. forget japan, even NY or LA</content>
      <published_at>Sun Jan 13 19:11:24 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3290952</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>127438</id>
        <name>kweesee</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>5</level>
      <id>3292448</id>
      <content>Ken's is way better than the one in porter square (sapporo? I forget which one is which)    They have decent miso and shio ramen, and the noodles are generally cooked right.   The only thing kind of odd about them is that they're quite slow (they put bowls together methodically, not with the high speed precision of a tokyo ramen shop).  I'm not up on the NY ramen scene, but I'd put them on par with above-average places in LA (where, actually, it's not always so easy to find great ramen)</content>
      <published_at>Sun Jan 13 21:53:06 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3292077</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>49653</id>
        <name>another_adam</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>6</level>
      <id>3296573</id>
      <content>does anyone make their own noodles? (like sobaya in ny)</content>
      <published_at>Tue Jan 15 06:04:18 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>3292448</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>127438</id>
        <name>kweesee</name>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3290511</id>
      <content>Check out the recent Toraya thread.  Very good and just outside Arlington Center.  Should be pretty accessible by bus.

http://www.chowhound.com/topics/472628</content>
      <published_at>Sun Jan 13 08:54:13 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>827936</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>77061</id>
        <name>bear</name>
      </user>
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    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3292721</id>
      <content>I have to second Kyotoya in Stoneham, great bento boxes at lunch and pretty authentic sushi that won't break the bank for it's location.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jan 14 04:56:32 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>827936</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>148677</id>
        <name>msgcook</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3293708</id>
      <content>If you don't mind traveling outside Boston, Sushi Island in Wakefield Center is about as good as gets in the area. Impeccably fresh fish with lots of the more traditional Japanese fare. They do excellent tempura and I love their version of Agedashi Dofu.  You should also try the Hamachi Kama which is the grilled cheek portion of the Hamachi head.  It is really excellent.</content>
      <published_at>Mon Jan 14 10:26:22 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>827936</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>17193</id>
        <name>RoyRon</name>
      </user>
    </post>
    <post>
      <level>1</level>
      <id>3301945</id>
      <content>Fugakyu is one of my favorites and is on Beacon st, just east of Harvard St (I can't believe that nobody has mentioned it yet) Great food, awesome sushi, good bento boxes.  The only issue is that it is a little pricey, but not astronomical and it's hard to get in for dinner, but a cinch for lunch.</content>
      <published_at>Wed Jan 16 13:05:33 -0800 2008</published_at>
      <parent_id>827936</parent_id>
      <user>
        <id>158008</id>
        <name>skimartyb</name>
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