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Disappointing experience at Stephanie's

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AnnieP Aug 4, 2004 09:57 PM

Sun. night my husband and I decided to try Stephanie's on Newbury St (being childless for 2 weeks of summer camp). We got a little sticker shock from some of the prices, but that's Newbury St. Anyway, we enjoyed the salad that we shared (field greens, pears, etc), but his Stephie burger, which he ordered medium, arrived well done. My lobster roll was fine. When the waitress came by to see how it was, he showed it to her, and she offered to bring it back and do another one. He hesitated because he didn't want to wait a long time, but she assured him it would only be 5-10 minutes. Fifteen minutes later, the replacement arrived, cooked exactly as the first was. The waitress came over again, and seemed very frustrated when he showed it to her (though she didn't seem frustrated with him). She sent the manager over, who agreed it was well done, and immediately offered to take it off the bill. However, for the remainder of the meal, the waitress seemed tense and uncomfortable around us, even though my husband had been reasonable and calm about the whole thing. We even ordered dessert. However, when the bill came, we discovered, to our surprise, that they add an 18% gratuity to all checks for outdoor diners (this was stamped on the bill). I know this is often done for parties of 6 or more, but it's usually very obvious on the menu- in this case, I never noticed it. I suspect she was distressed because she knew her tip would be based on the lesser amount, and as my husband said, it turned out to be a self-fulfilling prophecy. Had she behaved differently, we would have considered adding additional gratuity to the bill, which they did have a place for. We did enjoy the food for the most part, and the outdoor cafe experience was fun, but I can't say I'd recommend it.

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    gramercyfoodie Jun 27, 2007 09:56 AM

    we also went on Monday night. It was fine. We liked being able to sit outside with our dog. To Stephanie haters where do you prefer in the neighborhood?

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    1. re: gramercyfoodie
      MC Slim JB Jun 27, 2007 10:45 AM

      It's practically a truism on this board that Newbury Street, like most of the Back Bay, isn't very Chowish. Out of a passel of weak offerings, I tend to think Tapeo is okay for weekend patio lunches, Bouchee is okay if quite hit or miss, Kashmir is bearable, if overpriced and generic Westernized Indian, Marcello's is fine if you stick to the Persian half of the menu, Wisteria House is pretty good Taiwanese, Scoozi has respectable thin-crust fancy pizzas, Armani Cafe isn't terrible for upscale Italian. None of them seem to have the miserable, hating-life servers that I've always gotten at Stephanie's, to say nothing of the generic, chain-level food.

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        bachslunch Aug 10, 2007 10:59 AM

        I've also had good luck at The Other Side and the Trident Bookstore and Cafe. In fact, these two and Tapeo are the Newbury Street places I'd most readily recommend if asked. Oh, and also Emack and Bolio's for ice cream.

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          MC Slim JB Aug 10, 2007 11:10 AM

          Those are all worthy places in my book, too. Especially with the free Wi-Fi. Haven't had anything to eat at The Other Side lately, though, just coffees and occasional beers. Is the chow still up to snuff?

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            bachslunch Aug 10, 2007 11:41 AM

            Fair question -- haven't been to The Other Side in a little over a year now. Guess it's time I got back for a fresh taste.

      2. re: gramercyfoodie
        Dax Jun 27, 2007 12:56 PM

        For more casual, I believe you can sit outside with your dog on the patio at the Parish Cafe. Also, Tremont 647's patio down the street on Tremont in the South End used to allows dogs on the patio. Not sure if that remains the case.

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          jules127 Aug 10, 2007 09:58 AM

          They do. And they have a great menu for them on Saturdays.

          http://www.tremont647.com/polkadog.html

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            gramercyfoodie Aug 11, 2007 02:18 PM

            wow. my dog is going to love it. thanks for the tip.

      3. tatamagouche Jun 26, 2007 07:44 AM

        Oh what the hell, I'll be the contrarian, not understanding fully why this post got revived anyway. I like their salads just fine; they're my kind of salads--big and full of junk.

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          MC Slim JB Jun 26, 2007 07:55 AM

          I'm actually in favor of reviving ancient posts if they lambaste awful restaurants that deserve it. Stephanie's is an ongoing testament to the power of a Newbury patio to trump general awfulness. A miserable, miserable place.

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            hoplover Jun 26, 2007 08:05 AM

            I took my daughter for her birthday for a sunday brunch and it was pitiful. The waiter brought food that we did not even order and then was angry with us when we told him it was not what we had ordered. I know how to order in restaurants in fact I am really good at it. They think everyone is a tourist and therefore you get sh----y service. They should only know we live a hop skip and a jump away. Stephanies is a place for wannabees who want to be seen, totally pathetic.

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              tamerlanenj Jun 26, 2007 10:38 AM

              I'm sorry you had such a lousy experience for your daughters birthday and that you were not warned off in time. Honestly, I can't think of one reason why one wouldn't be better off at the Cheesecake Factory than the hellhole that is Stephanies.

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                wontonton Jun 27, 2007 11:22 AM

                I'd even go to Charlie's up the street over Steph's for brunch. At least you get the same patio deal and the food, well is what it is, but without the prices and raised expectations.

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                tatamagouche Jun 26, 2007 08:11 AM

                Well, yeah, though that's just a question of reviving the topic, not necessarily the exact post...not that it matters either way, I suppose.
                I still say I like their salads and get a craving for one every once in a while though! I'll also note that I've been lucky enough never to endure truly awful service, though I've heard enough horror stories to know that my experience is the minority one. (Mind you I've never had notably good service there either.)

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                  Joanie Jun 26, 2007 08:18 AM

                  I'll join you in the minority. I've been there 3 times and can remember the last two. Had amazing potato pancakes w/ salmon and a really good salad. And last year we split a good lobster roll and a couple apps that were decent. Service was fine. Have eaten at the bar once and inside a couple times, never on the patio.

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                    BostonCookieMonster Jun 26, 2007 09:55 AM

                    Hmm, I don't hate it either, though I haven't been in years and have never bothered waiting for the patio. (I live in a patio-rich neighborhood if I want that.) I have found it cozy, and a dessert of warm gingerbread with molasses ice cream and hot caramel sauce still preys on my mind.

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                      bachslunch Aug 10, 2007 10:55 AM

                      I actually did like their desserts when I went, especially the bread pudding. But it's also badly overpriced for what you get. I've found their main courses unremarkable, so it's not a place I'd recommend with any confidence.

                      Haven't experienced the service problems others have, so I've got no beef there.

            2. kobuta Jun 26, 2007 07:25 AM

              I join the head-scratching when it comes to Stephanie's popularity. I've had several lunches there (thankfully all corporate, so I didn't have to pay for it) and none of them were particularly good. It always astounds me to see the lines of people waiting to dine there.

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                tamerlanenj Jun 26, 2007 07:04 AM

                I hate Stephanie's with a passion. It's the Cheesecake Factory with higher prices. I've always found the service to be wretched, the waits intolerable, and the food mediocre at best. I have never gotten a burger cooked to the correct temperature, EVER.

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                  Irwin Aug 9, 2004 07:25 PM

                  Had Brunch at Stephanie's yesterday, and I must say, that it was excellent. It was busy, expensive, and the service was wonderful. The manager came over 3-times to see if everything was OK! Don't complain about prices on Newbury Street, where they rent space by the inch, not by the foot, so if you can afford to shop on Newbury, don't complain about the price. This was truly a wonderful experience for the 6 of us at Stephanie's..........

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                    hotoynoodle Jun 26, 2007 06:53 AM

                    i don't complain about stephanie's because i refuse to eat there. i tried it when they first opened and hated it. everything about it. 10 years ago. plenty of other places to spend my money.

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                    MC Slim JB Aug 5, 2004 09:05 AM

                    I really dislike Stephanie's: I can't abide oversized portions of mediocre, overpriced food. But if I waited tables at such a place, I would jump for joy over a mandatory tip surcharge: tourists ignorant of American customs and suburbanites shocked at Newbury St prices tend to be really lousy tippers. That said, if they don't disclose it plainly up front, you should be angry. One more reason not to go back, and tell 20 people that there are far better options for patio dining in the Back Bay.

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                      J Bert Aug 5, 2004 10:58 AM

                      Thank you thank you MC Slim I could not agree with you more. I scratch my head in amazement every time I see a good recommendation for that place flow across my screen. Stephanie's above all, and a few others on Newbury, are the sorts of places my younger associates like to visit for a "big" night out because they are obvious targets, but the food's not so great, the service is just ok, and the prices are high. I just don't see the point and never go there unless someone's already settled in and I'm joining.

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                        trebiccherri Jun 26, 2007 06:44 AM

                        I agree; Stephanie's is not a good place to eat. The food is at the very least bland and uninspired. The beer and wine selections are some of the worst I have seen. However, I agree that the gratuity is fair since many tourists and commuters have a hard time with the prices. When do not want to pay m hourly rate of $350 I tell them to find another person, servers do not have that option. I think this place is best left alone.

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                        thecleave Aug 5, 2004 05:18 AM

                        I hope someone else will chime in here, but I've eaten on the patio a few times at Stephanie's, and don't ever remember them adding gratuity for outdoor diners. Their menu does require you to spend a minimum amount per person when you eat on the patio.

                        I had the steak salad there for lunch a couple of months ago, and it wasn't as good as it had been in the past. It just didn't seem very "fresh" to me.

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                          margaux kidder Aug 5, 2004 08:49 AM

                          Interestingly enough, a colleague and I headed there for outdoor drinks and apps last Friday evening. We hadn't been in a year or so, and were somewhat stunned to find that our party of 2 was hit with the automatic 18% gratuity. The service was fine, the apps very decent, but somehow, the experience ended on something of a down note over that (IMHO) rediculous rule.

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                            Gabatta Jun 26, 2007 07:48 AM

                            They have been adding 18% on the patio for some time now, however it has never equated to good service.

                            I really dislike thier dinner service at Stephanie's. Lunch and Brunch are pretty good foodwise, but the service has always been lacking. They don't need to worry as much about local repeat business due to the Newbury tourist traffic.

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                              knife Aug 10, 2007 09:27 AM

                              They have not had the automatic gratuity in over two years.

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