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Brunswick Stew

Phaedrus Aug 9, 2003 08:17 PM

I spent a good nine years in Atlanta going for my doctorate at Georgia Tech. Well, I did dally a little, well a lot.

I have always enjoyed Brunswick stew there, even if it did involve road kills at times. My question is: what makes Brunswick stew Brunswick stew? How did it originate? I have tried Brunswick stew in a BBQ chain restaurant up here in the midwest and it sucked bananas. When I go to places that supposedly serve southern foods around the country, many have never heard of Brunswick stew, so regional is it?

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    RibDog RE: Phaedrus Aug 9, 2003 10:20 PM

    The story that I have always known is that it originated in Brunswich County, Virginia. And I have never known it to be made with roadkill. The original meat in the recipe was squirrel that was obtained by shooting it, not scraping it off I95.

    I now make mine with chicken and leftover pork butt from my smoker.

    It is primarily found in the south. You will find something similar in Kentucky (no disrespect here) which is called Burgoo. I enjoy both immensely. Especially when you make it one day and let it sit overnight before you rewarm it to eat.


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      Lan4Dawg RE: RibDog Aug 10, 2003 11:52 AM

      the folks in Brunswick, GA will boil you in a pot of stew for saying it came fr/ VA. Brunswick, VA & Brunswick, GA have been arguing for years over which place gets the notoriety for the first stew. There is even a pot in the front of the Brunswick, GA visitors' center that is claimed to be the first pot used to make the stew. Like so many things we will never know the truth but it does make for some fun stories.

      1. re: Lan4Dawg
        RibDog RE: Lan4Dawg Aug 10, 2003 02:45 PM

        I knew I was going to step on some toes somewhere but sometimes you have to jump right in.

        To be honest with you, it does not matter to me where it came from. All I know is that I really enjoy it. Especially after it has been around for a few days!



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          Ike! RE: RibDog Aug 10, 2003 04:45 PM

          Doesn't matter where it originated. It's a delicious stew. Folks in Mississippi cook it in big iron pots on a wooden fire on old cotton plantations for lunch on opening day of dove season and stir the pot with a boat paddle as they needed a large amount for all the hunters. They use huges amounts of chicken, pork and beef. I learned from an ole timer and used pork, chicken and squirrels. You boil the meat and it becomes "stringy" and along with corn, tomatoes, onions, celery, parsley, butter, catsup et al, it's mighty good. Email me and I will send you an original recipe.

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            Sandy RE: Ike! Aug 12, 2003 06:56 AM

            Ketchup? Ketchup in Brunswick stew? Blasphemy! And besides, where are the lima (or butter) beans, a principal ingredient (mainly for thickening)?

            I agree wholeheartedly on the squirrel - it gives a taste that is especially good in the stew, so why cover it with ketchup? Parsley's a little uptown , though.

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              Jane RE: Sandy Aug 12, 2003 02:45 PM

              Actually the best Brunswick stew recipe I have is one from Brunswick GA that involved mixing a little ketchup with cider vinegar and red pepper, sort of like a bbq sauce. Add that towards the end of cooking and throw in about 8 or 9 smushed saltines for thickening. To me, this tastes like I want Brunswick stew to taste, and judging by the lack of leftovers at the New Year's Eve bonfires where it's been served, I'd say others appreciated it, too.

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                Johnresa RE: Sandy Feb 10, 2010 03:03 PM

                My family's brunswick stew recipe passed down 3 or 4 generations has ketchup as one of the ingredients and it does not have any lima beans

              2. re: Ike!
                Lan4Dawg RE: Ike! Aug 12, 2003 01:21 PM

                Ike, the beauty of Brunswick stew is that there is no real "recipe". I have seen grown men almost come to fisticuffs b/c one likes limas in his stew & the other thinks limas are blasphemous. ":^)

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                  bayoucook RE: Ike! Jun 7, 2009 04:57 AM

                  We must be from the same place in MS - that's just how I remember it. Plus it was used for church fundraisers. We'd make it at home with chicken and pork.
                  I still make it, but use pork butt off the grill along with the chicken.

                  1. re: Ike!
                    cookingdiva03 RE: Ike! May 1, 2014 12:08 PM

                    Hi Ike, your recipe sound like just what I'm looking for. I'm a Southern Girl and my Grandma Evelyn made the best Bruswick stew I've ever tasted. Unfortunately she passed away and did not leave even one of her amazing recipes. Would you please send me your recipe to
                    providence0319@yahoo.com. Thanks for your post and response.

                2. re: Lan4Dawg
                  Savannahian RE: Lan4Dawg Aug 13, 2003 09:20 PM

                  There's an annual contest between Brunswick, GA & Brunswick Co, VA to see who can cook the best pot of stew. The winner takes home a trophy that's kept in the city/county hall of the winner. It's all in fun, but they do take their bragging rights pretty seriously.

                  I also seem to remember Brunswick, Maine laying a claim to the stew as well....

                3. re: RibDog
                  KyMikey RE: RibDog Aug 12, 2003 09:27 PM

                  Burgoo was, indeed, originally a hunter's stew where you threw everything you shot, trapped or gathered into a big iron pot and cooked it so long that hardly anything in it was recognizable--and every batch was slightly different.
                  It's still quite a tradition in Kentucky, especially at the racetrack and around Derby time. Goes good with a julep (what doesn't?) ;-)

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                    Savannahian RE: RibDog Aug 13, 2003 09:18 PM

                    But isn't Burgoo primarily a lamb-based stew?

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                      RibDog RE: Savannahian Aug 13, 2003 10:14 PM

                      No not really. While lamb is a part of the recipes that I have, it is not the only meat involved. Heck, even the Moonlight BBQ Inn burgoo recipe that I got from Tom FL has chicken along with lamb in it. I want to give proper credit here also in that all my recipes came from Tom FL. Thanks Tom!

                      Tom's wife is a Kentucky girl and likes a recipe that has pork, veal, beef, lamb, and chicken in it. May sound the kitchen sink but that is the intent of burgoo. You use whatever meats are available. Even if it might be squirrel, venison, rabbit and/or bear.


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                        Sandy RE: RibDog Aug 14, 2003 07:49 AM

                        From my 19 years in Kentucky, I had always heard that you got the pot boiling and then sat down in a clearing in such a way that whatever flew over you could shoot and have it land in the pot. You then fleshed it out with whatever walked or ran by in the trees or on the ground. Really good eating, though.

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                    M&M RE: Phaedrus Aug 12, 2003 05:05 PM

                    Brunswick stew was always a standard side dish at big bbq's when I was growing up in Alabama. I certainly never hear of it here in St. Louis. There is a recipe in White Trash Cooking although I have to admit it produces so much stew that I've never tried it. The Joy of Cooking also covers the topic.

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                      Phaedrus RE: M&M Aug 13, 2003 09:52 AM

                      Wow, I certainly learned a lot. I had Brunswick Stew at Bandanas here is St. Louis. Not thick enough and way too sweet.

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                      Sandy RE: Phaedrus Aug 13, 2003 08:24 AM

                      In Georgia, Brunswick stew is eaten on rice as an accompaniment to bbq, In South Carolina, it is eaten as a stew itself, whereas hash is eaten on rice as an accompaniment to bbq, correctly according to the Law and the Prophets. This probably accounts for the ketchup in the Georgia/Alabama version.

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                        Savannahian RE: Sandy Aug 13, 2003 09:17 PM

                        I may have to call you on this one, my friend.

                        While I cannot speak for other parts of Georgia, in Savannah, I have NEVER seen brunswick stew served on rice, and it can be found all over town.

                        Eat your stew with Captain's wafers, like God intended! :-)

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                          RibDog RE: Savannahian Aug 13, 2003 10:16 PM

                          I have to agree with Savannahian. I have been to a lot of GA BBQ places and have never had it served on rice. Not saying you are wrong but I have never seen this.


                          1. re: RibDog
                            Sandy RE: RibDog Aug 14, 2003 07:43 AM

                            Had it on rice 2 years in a row at the end-of-ride (bicycles) bbq supper in a Georgia town which shall go un-named, since the bbq was not to my taste at all. Preparation done by local civic group. I'm not an expert on GA bbq, nor have I eaten it over a wide area, so I'll have to bow to local judgement as to the norm.

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                              Marcia RE: Sandy Aug 14, 2003 03:15 PM

                              I grew up in Ga. and agree with RibDog and Savannahian about the rice. Unless, of course, it is something recent, your experience was (thankfully,IMO) an anomaly. I'd surely love to have some barbecue and Brunswick stew right now, but I live way up north.

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                                Debopeep RE: Marcia Aug 18, 2003 01:49 PM

                                I'm from GA and now live in SC. I LOVE Brunswick stew, but hate SC hash. Here's my great-grandmother's explanation that she told me as a child of where the name and dish came from (she was from Savannah and lived to be 95). (I know several food stories from her.) Gumbo is a southern staple that was introduced by slaves. It was okra, corn, tomatoes, potatoes, shrimp, fish chunks and occasionally other vegetables that might be available. In south GA - around the Waycross area - they liked the shrimp and other meats kept separate - when they were available at all. Somehow turtle meat was readily available and not good by itself and tended to only be good when boiled to shreds. (note: the Waycross area still holds a rattle snake round-up and hold cooking contests for snake meat too). Okra somehow left the recipe. Bottom line: Gumbo lost its okra, added turtle and took the name from the coastal town of Brunswick. I guess shredded pork and/or chicken eventually took the place of the turtle. I've never had it over rice, but agree that Captain's wafers are the way to go. The absolute best stew is around the coast of GA, but if you're inland go to Fresh Air BBQ in Jackson, GA (about 40miles south of Atlanta or the "new" place in Macon - new means less than 25 years old). In SC they have Frogmore stew which I think is similar that migrated it's way north up the coast to the Charleston area. I haven't read any of the Gullah history books but I bet they explain the evolution of this delicious stew also.

                                1. re: Debopeep
                                  Sandy RE: Debopeep Aug 19, 2003 06:34 AM

                                  The Rattlesnake Roundup is held each March in Claxton, GA, about 60 miles west of Savannah.

                                  Lowcountry Boil (also called Frogmore Stew, Beaufort Stew, etc) is nothing like Brunswick Stew. It's simply a conglomerate of Shrimp, Crab, Corn on the cob, smoked sausage, and whatever else is handy, boiled together until done, the liquid drained off, and the rest of the ingredients poured out on a table covered with newspapers, and eaten from there. There was a recent thread in the "South" list that covered this dish's probable origins and variations.

                                  Why do you hate the SC bbq hash? Which versions (they are legion, according to contents and maker) have you had? Some taste very close to the GA version of Brunswick Stew.

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                                    coffeebluff RE: Debopeep Sep 22, 2003 08:08 AM

                                    of course brunswick stew originated in brunswick, ga.
                                    however, beans and potatoes were added by the commercial industry to bring down food cost. i make a gallon of stew 4-6 times a week. heres a recipie passed down in my ga family......
                                    1 lb smoked chicken,1 lb smoked pork, 1 lb smoked beef, 1 bell pepper, 1 med onion, 2 quarts diced fresh tomatoes, 3 quarts kernel corn(crack half of the corn in a food processor), 1/2 cup apple cider vinegar, 1/4 cup sugar, 1 tablespoon salt, 1 tablespooon blk pepper. chop meat fine, combine all ingredients, cook for 1 to 1.5 hours til veggies are tender. let stand for a while. done/////

                                    1. re: Debopeep
                                      Suzy Q RE: Debopeep Dec 22, 2007 06:05 AM

                                      Frogmore Stew and Brunswick Stew are two COMPLETELY different things. Frogmore Stew isn't even really a stew - it's really more like a lobster pot in terms of prep and serving. Sandy has it right on, although I've never in my life seen crab in Frogmore Stew (and I'm a Charleston native).

                              2. re: Savannahian
                                Lan4Dawg RE: Savannahian Aug 14, 2003 05:13 PM

                                neither me.
                                I have never seen it served over rice. My guess is that some one fr/ socar or louisiana thought of the idea.

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                                  RibDog RE: Lan4Dawg Aug 14, 2003 06:37 PM

                                  It might have also been a way to extend the stew. It would help keep the food cost down for the item it was served over rice.


                                2. re: Savannahian
                                  Dax RE: Savannahian Aug 20, 2003 01:03 PM

                                  With Captain's wafers? I grew up in Athens (23 years worth) watching the Dogs whup on everyone (well, they used to, now they're rising again) and the only thing I ever ate brunswick stew with was Wonder Bread or Sunbeam bread.

                                  1. re: Savannahian
                                    Fred Prince RE: Savannahian Sep 4, 2003 12:34 AM

                                    My church, the Stockbridge First United Methodist burned on June 8, 2002.

                                    We are trying to raise money every way possible to rebuild and have been fairly successful with a couple BBQs, but our Brunswick Stew is not up to par.

                                    We will have a fall festival near the end of October, with BBQ, Pumkin Sale, Yard Sale and more.

                                    We need a good large quantity "South Georgia Brunswick Stew Recipe"

                                    All help you can offer is sincerely appreciated.
                                    Thank You

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                                      Lan4Dawg RE: Fred Prince Sep 4, 2003 08:41 AM

                                      to quote Roy Blount, Jr., "Brunswick stew is what happens when small mammals carrying ears of corn fall into barbecue pits."
                                      There are some great receipts out there. Check Marion Farmer's "Southern Cookbook" as well as John Edge's "A Gracious Plenty" for some traditional receipts. There is an entire chapter devoted to Brunswick Stew w/ several receipts (inc. Camille Glenn's) in Joseph Dabney's excellent book, "Smokehouse Ham, Spoon Bread & Scuppernong Wine".
                                      We tend to omit the squirrel & hog's head when making at home & just grind pork, chicken, & turkey together saute w/ onions, celery, chopped peppers (I prefer sweeter red peppers to green) a little crushed garlic (but not too much or it will overpower the stew), add tomatoes, corn, limas (& quite frankly whatever other veg we have on hand) until it looks right. Salt, pepper, & hot sauce and a touch of pepper vinegar until it tastes right.
                                      Which Stockbridge UMC? not the one in Georgia is it? I do not remember hearing about a fire there so curious.

                                      1. re: Fred Prince
                                        Ric RE: Fred Prince Sep 4, 2003 10:37 AM

                                        Just when I was going to pass along our favorite Brunswick Stew recipe, I realized it is from Yorktown, VA, and likely not a "Georgia" style recipe. I did clip some Brunswick Stew recipes from "Southern Living" a few years back, and some of the intro comments for a couple of their recipes may be worth relaying here:
                                        An Alberta, Virginia (uh oh, wrong state, again) chef says the poultry must be a hen- not a broiler-fryer- for more fat and a richer flavor. If you've got a good broth, then you've got a good stew, says the stewmaster.
                                        A stewmaker from Brunswick, Georgia says "the real secret is in the preparation method-cold beer, a smoker full of fresh pork, cooking all night, and telling a zillion lies with your buddies." Sounds like the perfect formula for a church benefit, doesn't it?
                                        (Source: Southern Living, January, 1991.)

                                      2. re: Savannahian
                                        Herb RE: Savannahian Sep 18, 2003 02:31 AM

                                        I'm a native georgian and I've never heard of eating brunswick stew on rice! We make our own and it's eaten as stew in a bowl!

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                                          uptown jimmy RE: Herb Jun 28, 2007 07:20 PM

                                          Yes. With saltines and hot sauce. I make a mean Brunswick Stew. But it's so simple. It's like mid-South gumbo, but so much more cheap and easy, and just as flexible.

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                                      DebbieDoDa RE: Phaedrus Aug 19, 2003 09:23 AM

                                      I'm from N GA and spent many hours of my childhood 'stirring' the Brunswick Stew. It was a 2 day process of chopping meats (beef, chicken, pork & venison), preparing the tomatoes & other vegetables from the garden. Then, we'd can as many quarts of it that we could be saved from immediate consumption!
                                      This is probably blasphemy, but I now enjoy this "quick' recipe and you'd be surprised at how close it is to our time consuming huge pot of Brunswick Stew -- and I still make it with love!

                                      Quick Brunswick Stew

                                      1 medium onion, chopped
                                      1 can Castleberrys BBQ Beef
                                      1 can Castleberrys BBQ Pork
                                      1 large can white chicken meat, drained
                                      1 can lima beans, drained and rinsed, optional
                                      1 can whole kernel corn, drained
                                      1 can creamed corn
                                      2 16 oz. cans tomatoes
                                      1 can Rotel tomatoes
                                      16 oz. Water
                                      1 10 oz. pkg frozen cut Okra
                                      Salt and Pepper to taste

                                      Use a 4 quart stock pot. Cook onions in 1 tsp. of oil till clear. Add the rest of the ingredients and cook over medium low heat for at least one hour. Serve this with Tobasco & oyster crackers.

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                                        mzim RE: Phaedrus Feb 28, 2007 02:21 PM

                                        in savannah, the stew has PIECES floating around in it....not like the inevitable mush one gets here in north ga. lots of yummy pieces, chicken, pork, tomatoes,corn, butter beans. i attribute the mush to the use of commercial pressure cookers...i witnessed that at zeb's bbq and realized why stew had deteriorated to mush. the best recipe i have ever made was given by that food genius of the south, craig claiborne, the food editor of the NY times for many years (and i might say the only reason to read that rag). he is gone now and i don't know what i did with the recipe. if anyone can track it down, it will be worth it and you should share.

                                        1. alliedawn_98 RE: Phaedrus Mar 1, 2007 10:10 AM

                                          Hi, I'm new here but have been lurking for a while. I also grew up in southeast, GA....a small town called Glenwood, in fact. My great-grandmother made Brunswick Stew for almost all of our family get togethers. She passed away a few years ago at the ripe old age of 94. My dad passed the recipe down to me and yes this one uses ketchup. I also never saw anyone eat it over rice but I did that with leftovers just this week. This makes a very large pot of stew and I usually put some in the freezer for a quick meal later on down the road.

                                          Brunswick Stew
                                          5 lbs chicken
                                          5 lbs boston butt
                                          5 lbs potatoes
                                          2 14 1/2 oz cans garden peas
                                          2 14 1/2 oz cans whole kernel corn
                                          1 32 oz bottle ketchup (Heinz is the brand she always used.)
                                          Tabasco sauce to taste
                                          Salt and black pepper to taste

                                          Boil the chicken until done and pull of the bones. Reserve the stock. Boil the boston butt and shred, discard the stock. Peel potatoes and cut into large cubes. Cook in the chicken stock. Add chicken, pork, peas, corn, ketchup, tabasco, salt, and pepper, Mix well. Let cook until well-thickened (like a hash consistency). Serve. Cornbread goes very well with it but not the sweet stuff!

                                          I don't want to argue with anyone on the origins, recipes, etc. As with most great Southern foods, every family makes it in their own way. I think a lot of it has to do with the financial situation and what is available at the time the recipe is written. I've had the more soup like Brunswick Stew with limas, tomatoes, etc. but personally never cared for it that much.

                                          1. bkhuna RE: Phaedrus Mar 1, 2007 06:00 PM

                                            What a great thread this! Two year ago, I attended the Brunswick Stewbilee in Brunswick, GA. The entries ranged from traditional to strange and some I liked and some I didn't. I think my favorite was an entry from a little roadside BBQ takeout place on the Waycross highway out of town. I didn't see any rice anywhere however.

                                            One thing is for certain, it's an regional dish with as many variations as there are cooks who make it.

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                                              N.Ga. Dave RE: Phaedrus Dec 22, 2007 02:41 AM

                                              Brunswick Stew in the coastal areas of Georgia was originaly made as an inexpensive meal full of protein for slaves by slave owners. It was first cooked with a whole hogs head and other lesser parts of the hog. Since way back then, the USDA has stepped in and will not allow "Stew Masters"/ "Stew Dogs" to use that old recipe. That's where the ketchup and vinegar came into the picture. Some how, ketchup and vinegar mimicked the taste of being cooked with the hogs head. I personaly don't use either recipe. I was born and raised here in the foothills of the N.Ga. mountains and have eaten/ cooked Brunswick Stew all my 41 years and until this thread have never seen nor heard of it being served over rice. Lima beans(some whole and some mashed), okra, whole kernal corn, whole tomatoes diced, chicken and pork have always been in mine. Always cooked slowly in a seasoned "witches Kettle" over an open fire of Hickory. Yeah we always make a lot but there's usually a lot of folks at the gathering. Usually theres several racks of smoked pork ribs and/or smoked Boston Butts. Tastes great with a beer too! Oh, and all the Sunbeam white bread you can "sop" it up with!!!

                                              1. Suzy Q RE: Phaedrus Dec 22, 2007 06:07 AM

                                                Surprisingly enough, I've found the Brunswick stew at Smithfield's BBQ chain to be pretty good. It's the closest restaurant/store bought version I've ever found to my grandmother's recipe. I was skeptical at first...but it's worth a try if you're near a Smithfield's.

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                                                  Ga. girl RE: Phaedrus Jun 6, 2009 06:36 PM

                                                  I grew up in middle Ga. (Emanuel Co). My grandmother and mother made Brunswick Stew the old fashioned way----with a hog's head. They never used okra in it (but must have been in the original). Yep, the Sunbeam white bread is a must!

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                                                    1stmakearoux RE: Phaedrus Jun 7, 2009 04:23 AM

                                                    Brunswick Stew has always been one of my favorite dishes. I make a pretty darn decent batch if I do say so myself, but the absolute best I've ever had is at the Georgia Pig BBQ in Brunswick, Georgia. Heavenly!

                                                    1. markemorse RE: Phaedrus Jul 7, 2009 02:46 AM

                                                      Couple things: I'll add my voice to the chorus of those who've never seen it with rice. And: does anyone know if the potatoes are more characteristic of VA-style? I grew up in GA, have been away for about 10 years, and upon returning this summer and eating a whole lot of stew, I realized that I am anti-potato. Seems like most of what I grew up on was shredded meat, corn, tomato, vinegar, possibly a lima bean or two. But no potatoes.

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                                                        rachelweso RE: markemorse Dec 8, 2009 03:10 PM

                                                        I realize this thread is 6+ years old, but I just had to add my opinion. I'm from Georgia and we grew up on Brunswick stew - we almost always ate it with cornbread and we frequently had it served over RICE. It tastes delicious over rice - not sure who started putting it over rice, but it sure is good - y'all should really try it! :)

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                                                          Dax RE: rachelweso Dec 8, 2009 09:49 PM

                                                          I grew up on both brunswick stew and "barbecue" hash, neither of which were served anywhere close to rice

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                                                            kengk RE: Dax Dec 9, 2009 03:51 PM

                                                            I have lived in Georgia a few months shy of 50 years and have never had nor heard of anyone eating Brunswick stew over rice. I have to say that sounds pretty good and I may try it. I really prefer it as the main dish instead of as an accompaniment to barbeque.

                                                            IMO, the main "secret" to good Brunswick stew is very long and slow simmering.

                                                            Rotisserie chickens and boughten barbeque make a good base for when you don't want to take the time to cook the meats yourself.

                                                            Add whole kernel corn, creamed corn, tomatoes, butter beans and/or potatoes and you about have it. A little ketchup or barbeque sauce and whatever spices you like.

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                                                        countryGAcook RE: Phaedrus Feb 9, 2010 07:58 PM

                                                        Well now, even though I am a good many years late. I have been in Georgia all my life and my great grandmother makes the best brunswick stew in the county. And the only meet she uses is BEEF AND PORK!She says chicken is not a great seasoner (which is true).She uses ground chuck, HOGS HEAD, AND PIG EARS. Yes those items are yet sold in the store down this way, and she also makes her with spice. It does not contain okra and i dont believe it has potatoes in it. She cooks this stew atleast 8 hours, and we eat it with either soda crackers (saltines) or cornbread.

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