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We always have these "Top 5" lists, so how about a bottom five:

5. Bayona
4. Copelands, or his cheesy bistro
3. Miyako (St. Charles Location)
2. Ye Olde College Inn
1. Marisol (Would not ever make someone suffer through this place)

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  1. I disagree with you completely about Bayona and Marisol, though I've been to Marisol far less frequently than Bayona, and don't have as firm an opinion. Why don't you like either place?

    I steer people away from the Pearl, on St. Charles near Canal. I used to eat there all the time, but stopped going when the service went to hell, and the fried seafood became completely tasteless. All that, and it's expensive.

    Link: http://www.appetites.us

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    1. re: Robert

      Bottom of my list :

      Anything Emerils
      Palace Cafe
      Mothers
      Central Grocery (Napoleon House is so much better for Muffs)

      Yvette

      1. re: Yvette

        Oh, Yvette. I disagree about Napoleon House's muffs. They're heated up and the fat in the meat and the cheese all melts together and all you hvae is one big gloppy mess!

        Much of the taste of the cured meats used in muffs is in the fat. By melting and mixing the fats you sort of combine all the flavors and lose the delicious distinctions of what's in each bite of meat and cheese.

        But really, the central problem with not recommending Central Grocery because in your opinion, Napoleon House muffs are so much better, is that each restaurant should stand on it's own merits. That Napoleon House muffs are good does not mean that Central Grocery muffs are bad. I would have to dislike something specific about Central Grocery muffs to make me say that I would not recommend them.

        1. re: Amanda

          OK, my turn!
          1.Jacques-Imos (nasty attitude)
          2.Sid-Mar (greasy as it gets)
          3.Pelican Club (mediocre at best)
          4.Palace Cafe (except for the duck)
          5.Clancy's (I never got it..)
          Vinny

          1. re: Vinny Clams

            Antoine's: Too bad to describe without offending those of delicate sensibilities

            Nola: I wanted to like it...but to be honest I just didn't think the food was very good.

            Commanders: The emperor has no clothes. VERY average food and industrial service. Except for brunch (which is good) I'd NEVER waste a meal at CP.

            Central Grocery: Are you kidding? The muffs are so salty and olive-dominated as to be nearly impossible to get down. Horrid.

            Upperline: Vastly overated cooking. You can tell they *think* they have grand cuisine....a sort of snooty...aren't you lucky to be eating here...attitude. But to be honest, the cooking is amateurish.

            1. re: yuyu

              Antione's. Good gravy, why do people go there. I ordered a filet, RARE, and got it well-done. I sent it back and got another one, maybe the same one, BURNED. I was a guest at a business dinner, but this was just too much to be polite and eat it.

              I sent it back again and said, bring me some crab or something. By now everyone else had nearly finished. I got some indifferent soft-shell crab and a glare from the waiter. If I had been paying, no tip for you.

              1. re: Pete Oldtown

                Well if you order steak at Antoine's you get what you deserve! I have never understood the fascination with steak some people have.

                1. re: bywatertim

                  ...er, just that some people like steak? mebbe? i was recently (2011) at a dinner at Antoine's and while i had fish, someone else had steak and it was terrible. one would think a war horse like Antoine's would know how to cook a filet. they used to be a business destination, you know.

                  sauce was nice, tho.

              2. re: yuyu

                I totally agree about commander's: I worked there, and the emperor HAS no clothes. Totally apt.

                I hesitate to agree with the condemnation of Upperline. I've always appreciated both the atmosphere and the food.

            2. re: Amanda

              touche'....to each his own. I prefer my muffs heated. There was a big debate going on during the summer on another New Orleans board about this. I think your arguement was the one people used who like it cold.

              I also like my poorboy bread heated.

              I guess that is my only specific of not recommending it, the heat.

              Yvette

              PS I respect your opinions and posts on this board.

              1. re: Yvette

                Yvette, I didn't see this for a long time. I apologize.

                I prefer my po-boy with heated bread if it's a cooked filling and with cold bread if it's a cold cut or combination (ham and cheese). I also like those hot-pressed Cuban Sandwiches.

                Ciao!

              2. re: Amanda

                I LOVE Jacque-Imo's - some of the best food ever in New Orleans. No problems with service, but maybe it's because we know to go early and avoid weekends. Love their simple spinach salad with a fat oyster (anyone have the recipe?), alligator cheesecake, catfish, eggplant stuffed with seafood...and, of course, cornbread.

              3. re: Yvette
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                Hungry Celeste

                Oh, this is fun...
                --Jacques-Imos
                --Crazy Johnny's in Fat City
                --Country Flame
                --Court of Two Sisters

                1. re: Hungry Celeste

                  Celeste, I like Country Flame but I could almost have put Court of Two Sisters on my list.

                  1. re: Amanda

                    Yeah I totally forgot about that tourist trap! My poor dad is a sucker for their buffet though (its awful).

                    1. re: Fat Harry

                      So you want to divulge why you put Bayona and Marisol on your list? Because I'm having a hard time taking you seriously without an explanation. No offense.

                      Link: http://www.appetites.us

                      1. re: Robert

                        Sure. The service at Bayona was pretentious and slow and I did not like the food. There are many better places for the money.

                        As for Marisol, the waiters are obnoxious and just weird. One asked if they could join our party afterwards, and then implied that he was on drugs. The food outrageously expensive for what you get. A duck confit salad for $9 that is maybe 5 bites? Not worth it. Foie gras that looks like an oily leech and tastes like it? No thanks.

                        And I really don't care if you take me seriously or not. I would not recommend these establishments. There are just far better places to go.

                        1. re: Fat Harry

                          Fair enough. My experiences at both places have been different. So different, in fact, that I did not understand your opinions. Now I do. I still disagree, but now I know why, and can judge accordingly in the future if I read a recommendation you've made.

                          Link: http://www.appetites.us

                          1. re: Fat Harry

                            OH MY GOD!!!!! NINE WHOLE DOLLARS FOR A SALAD!!!!
                            That and one of the best foie gras preparation I've ever had is the basis for your complaint?

                            Petentious service at Bayona? What "Bayona"did you go to?

                            1. re: Fat Harry

                              Let me tell you about my last two experiences at Bayona. Sometime over the summer the restaurant advertised $14 lunch specials to celebrate its 14th anniversary. However, the lunch menu made no mention of the special, so we inquired with our waiter who advised that the special included any salad and any lunch entree for the $14. Soon afterwards we each ordered a salad and an entree. No complaints about the food, quite good. When the bill came we noticed we were charged full price for salads and entrees. We pointed this out to the waiter who very snottily replied that if we had wanted the special we should have told him so when we ordered so that we would not have gotten "giant sized" salads. When we reminded that we had indeed asked about the special, he offered no apology. Despite our enjoyment of the food, we left a very bad impression of the restaurant because this pissy POS waiter made us feel cheap.

                              More recently, I went there for lunch with a "regular." One of the entrees was not up to par. The wait staff and the management was very apologetic and accomodating with the bill. My faith in Bayona was renewed.

                              Morale of the story for those who run restaurants... do not tolerate poor wait staff because the quality of the food will not overcome poor service, no matter how good it is.

                      2. re: Yvette

                        I agree on two, out of four. All things Emeril have played very well with me, as has Palace Cafe. OTOH, I have yet to see the attraction of either Mother's or CG, but that is just me and MY palate.

                        Hunt

                      3. I disagree about Bayona as well. I think it should be in the top five! I have never been to Marisol, but certainly have never heard it should be in the bottom 5??

                        1. I'll play!

                          1. Elizabeth's
                          2. Brennan's
                          3. Acme Oyster
                          4. Felix
                          5. Emeril's Delmonico

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                          1. re: Teke

                            1. Clancy's
                            2. Any restaurant owned or operated by Al Copeland.
                            3. St. Charles Tavern
                            4. Domilise's
                            5. Ye Olde College Inn

                            Honestly, IMO almost all of the better restaurants in New Orleans have something to recommend them. And a coterie of loyal supporters that do recommend them. All have strong points and weak points, whether it's the service, snobbishness, clubbyness, price, quality/uneven quality of the food, etc. There are very few places that I feel are so bad that I would not recommend them in any circumstances.

                            1. re: Amanda

                              Why is the St charles Tavern not recommended? I have read somewhere else that it's reasonably priced and the food is pretty good.

                              1. re: Amanda

                                I have been away from NO for several years, but the College Inn was always a Saturday night fave after a Tulane game with my Grampa. What has changed to make it a bottom five on so many lists here? Has the new ownership done that poorly of a job? I ask about the ownership because it is owned by an alumnus of my high school.

                                1. re: vees

                                  Amanda's post was from Dec 2004. post-K, there have many changes to Ye Olde College Inn. all reports I hear are that it is good.

                                  1. re: vees

                                    We had a very nice dinner at Ye Olde College Inn with my cousin and her husband on Saturday night. She had made reservations at 7:30 and we were seated promptly. It was quite packed with families and had she not made reservations, there is no telling when we would have been seated.

                                    Three out of the four of us had Oysters Blue as starters, flashed fried and sprinkled liberally with Blue Cheese. I had the Shrimp Remoulade on top of fried green tomatoes.

                                    We all had the special - Herb crusted Redfish with a light herb topping. The fish was moist and flaky. The mashed potatoes were a bit salty for me though they didn't bother my potato loving Scottish husband.

                                    Service was efficient though stretched a bit thin. I would have had a second glass of wine with dinner but the waiter never came back to ask. We had a nice leisurely meal and never had to scream to be heard even thought the dining room was packed.

                                    Other than Nagin walking in the dining room like he was Chris Paul during the starting line up intros, raising his arms in air until he realized no one was impressed, it was a very nice meal.

                                    1. re: serich

                                      Your Nagin comment made me laugh out loud. I went to Ye Old last year because it was late and their kitchen stays open til 11. I thought it was pretty good basic food and nice staff.
                                      1) Commanders
                                      2) Antiones
                                      3) Nirvana
                                      4) Filipe's
                                      5) Buds Broiler

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                                      Buds Broiler
                                      2929 N Causeway Blvd, Metairie, LA 70002

                              2. Disagree about Marisol also, my absolute fave. Some of the absolute best food anywhere.
                                As far as not recommending?
                                1)Persistyle(now)
                                2)Bayona
                                3)JaquesImos
                                4)Tujaques
                                5)Stella

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                                1. re: Ren

                                  Now you guys have me really confused!!! These restaurants are usually so highly recommended!!

                                2. Michaud's...probably the worst meal we have eaten anywhere.

                                  Brennan's. Breakfast is overpriced and not at all memorable. Tourists flock to it, but I bet only once. Not even in the same league of awfulness as Michaud's, tho.

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                                  1. re: sudiepav
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                                    Hungry Celeste

                                    If you mean Michaul's on St. Charles, I wholeheartedly agree. Add the Mulate's on Convention Center Blvd to the list too!

                                    1. re: Hungry Celeste

                                      I did mean Michaul's...thx for correcting me. I want to be sure I never stumble into there again!

                                      1. re: sudiepav

                                        Came across this topic while browsing here my first day with Chowhound. Made me chuckle - ain't it grand that there are so many points of view! My husband and I have lived here for two years now and eat out a LOT! A few places we will never set foot in again:

                                        Arnauds - for exactly the reasons stated in one of the first messages here.

                                        Mother's - Good grief! What is the attraction?

                                        Pascal Menales - Best bbq shrimp in town? Not by a long shot. Alpine (hated by one of the posters) has much better, and Deanie's on the Lake is great for that as well. Although the amount of food served is staggering.

                                        Copelands.

                                        As for Cajun Cabin and Mulates - we have been to both several times - for the music and to watch the dancing. Food was never an issue. Uniformly mediocre at both, but that's not the point.

                                        1. re: chezjulia

                                          Love Pascal's BBQ shrimp, but maybe because I don't know any better. St. Louis, MO, is lucky to have a Red Lobster. (pretty bad, too) I started looking to see what was open so when we come down in the spring we won't have to cook.

                                          1. re: jo-ann

                                            Try the BBQ Shrimp at the real Deanie's in Bucktown. Their quality disappeared several years ago, but if they make their BBQ Shrimp correctly, it is many times better than PM's. PM's is basically a bowl of unseasoned boiled shrimp submerged in salad oil.

                                      2. re: Hungry Celeste

                                        Does anyone know if the Cajun Cabin in the FQ on Bourbon is any better than the abominable Michaul's or Mulate's (embarrassed to admit I've eaten there twice as a tourist - shame on me - but never again!!!)

                                        1. re: Christine
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                                          Hungry Celeste

                                          Music at the Cajun Cabin can be great, depending on who's playing, but the food is strictly for tourists.

                                    2. you guys are crazy! places i'd NEVER recommend
                                      for ANY reason would be: copelands and court of
                                      two sisters ...for sure!!!

                                      but i find it hard to believe so many folks find
                                      nothing redeeming about acme, elizaberth's, bayona
                                      and jacquesimo's ...that's crazy!

                                      many of the places folks mentioned are hit and miss,
                                      but have some great dishes that are worth the trip
                                      IMHO.

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                                      1. re: 504funk

                                        1. Bayona (the most overrated restaurant in N.O. -- would never have survived in a city with more culinary variety)

                                        2. Jacque-Imo's (greasy schlock masquerading as our culture)

                                        3. Restaurant August (two of the most ungenerous and poorly executed $200 meals I've ever had)

                                        4. Stella! (our one meal there was a mishmash of bad ideas and worse dishes)

                                        5. Upperline (just-OK food, and you've got to put up with both the wacky owner and the eye-gouging art to get it)

                                        Of course I think Marisol, which the original poster hated, is probably the best restaurant in the city if you're judging solely on food, so YMMV.

                                        1. 1. Bayona (the most overrated restaurant in N.O. -- would never have survived in a city with more culinary variety)
                                           
                                          2. Jacque-Imo's (greasy schlock masquerading as our culture)
                                           
                                          3. Restaurant August (two of the most ungenerous and poorly executed $200 meals I've ever had)
                                           
                                          4. Stella! (our one meal there was a mishmash of bad ideas and worse dishes)
                                           
                                          5. Upperline (just-OK food, and you've got to put up with both the wacky owner and the eye-gouging art to get it)
                                           
                                          Of course I think Marisol, which the original poster hated, is probably the best restaurant in the city if you're judging solely on food, so YMMV.

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                                          1. re: Doc
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                                            Hungry Celeste

                                            A perfect description of Jacques-Imos!

                                            1. re: Doc

                                              I'm sorry, Fat Harry, but Bayona is one of the best restaurants in New Orleans. I've eaten there many times. It's romantic, civilized and I have never had a meal that was less than wonderful. I'd eat there 7 days a week if I had the money!

                                            2. t
                                              Tha Groovin' Gourmet

                                              Thanks for starting such a fun thread...I can see this one going on for awhile. It's so interesting seeing so many contrasting opinions.

                                              Here's my list...sorry it's only four...we must be making some good choices!

                                              Mulate's - totally ghastly, horrid, disgusting tourist trap. Should've turned tail and run the second they handed out the beeper.

                                              KPaul's - decent, but Brigtsen's kicks their ass big time for less money.

                                              Alpine Inn - any place that needs a front door shill should not be getting your money. We stopped in because it was raining and we had heard good things. Never again.

                                              Casamento's - we don't get it, though the wife enjoyed the tile work. Oysters were OK, but not as good as those at Drago's. Loaf sandwiches were awful...too much blah bread, not enough oysters
                                              or shrimp. And we definitely did not appreciate one of the shuckers aggressively soliciting tips 3 different times passing by our table.

                                              1. t
                                                Tha Groovin' Gourmet

                                                Remembered a 5th never again place:

                                                Arnaud's - some might consider it blasphemous, but we thought the place was way overpriced ($12 for a martini anyone?), with underinformed, almost laughable service (wearing tuxes that looked like they came from a thrift shop). It is a crime against foodies to make them sit on unupholstered ice cream parlor chairs for what is supposed to be a fine dining experience. Only the Shrimp Arnaud (their version of a remoulade) was excellent...but you can make it yourself if you buy a bottle of their sauce and boil your own shrimp, saving a couple of hundred bucks in the process.

                                                1. Hm-m, while I do agree on Copeland's (every location that I have been dragged to), and then there are spots that I do not know.

                                                  However, based on my dining research (I always take one for the team), I would NOT include Bayona, or Ye Olde College Inn, in this list. Though totally different restaurants, they have always come through for me.

                                                  Marisol was a bit of a downer, considering the high recs. that I had gotten, but not the "worst," by any stretch.

                                                  My "would not recommend," would be Mother's, but I think I am in the minority here.

                                                  It will be very interested in seeing how this thread plays out.

                                                  Thanks for starting it,

                                                  Hunt

                                                  1. Oops! Just saw the date of the original post - 2004!!!!! I'm almost sorry that I commented on this archaic thread. Heck, most of the places probably named are long gone.

                                                    Please disregard my comments, as they are almost now, not then, with the exception of Marisol, which I enjoyed, but I believe is defunct now.

                                                    Hunt

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                                                    1. re: Bill Hunt

                                                      mother's! definitely. its running on 20-year-old fumes... and old tour books that nobody's bothered to update. probably the blandest roastbeef poboy ive ever had. no Parasol's, baby.

                                                    2. Clancy's has been on my "places to avoid" list for years. Reservations are ignored. You are greeted as if you are crashing a private party. The rude staff and even more obnoxious patrons overshadow the quality of the food. A former poster was correct when he labeled this place “Club Clancy”.

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                                                      1. re: speyerer

                                                        I prefer not to participate in old threads that have been resurrected, but I do feel the need to defend Clancy's. In numerous visits, I only have had positive experiences, and some great ones. In fairness, speyerer, you are not the only one to make these complaints, but I have yet to experience any of these problems.

                                                        1. re: Blumie

                                                          have always had a great time at clancy's with terrific food and service whether I'm a walk-in, sit at the bar or have a reservation.

                                                          1. re: Blumie

                                                            Clancy's
                                                            Upperline
                                                            Brennans
                                                            all Emeril restos.
                                                            Bayona

                                                            1. re: Blumie

                                                              OK, so the zombie walks again! Since I fell for such an old thread, I'll add a bit, re: Clancy's. Going back a trip, or three, ago, we had reservations, made via telephone. Trip got moved and changed, and I called Clancy's to cancel the reservations. It did not look like we'd have enough time to fit them in with the new schedule. The gentleman, with whom I spoke was very friendly, and appreciative of my taking the time to cancel our reservations, and about three weeks out. He actually seemed sad that we would not make it, for the revised trip. He asked me "please" try them the next time that we were in town. Now, this does not constitute actually dining there, but his telephone demeanor was as good, as I have ever experienced. Predicated on that one telephone exchange, we will dine there, when possible. If they are half so good in the restaurant as he was in the front of the house, I think I'd enjoy my evening.

                                                              Heck, I've called overseas to cancel reservations and been rudely treated and the danged call cost ME $10!

                                                              Hunt

                                                          2. Yeah it's an old thread, but still a great topic:

                                                            1. Adolfo's (tried again last month, vowed never again)
                                                            2. Baru (maybe we went to soon after it opened, but we found it shockingly bad)
                                                            3. Smilie's (we call it Slimey's...'nuff said)
                                                            4. Mother's (in the dictionary under "overrated")
                                                            5. Those two "cajun" tourist joints that start with "M" (double plus ungood!)

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                                                            1. re: jeffchow

                                                              Forgot about Adolpho's. Probably a good thing.

                                                              1. re: jeffchow

                                                                I thought we were the only ones that did not care for Adolfo's.

                                                                1. re: jeffchow

                                                                  I would put Baru on my top list. Every meal I've had there was fantastic.

                                                                2. Interesting . . .

                                                                  I actually don't have a "Bottom Five," but a few observations nonetheless.

                                                                  I love BAYONA, and have only had a "weak" meal there once -- on our first visit after Katrina. We're going again this Fall, and we'll see . . .

                                                                  We had a truly bad experience (both food and service) the one time we went to STELLA! I'd put it on my "Bottom Five" list, with the admonishment that it was based on a "one-time only" experience, so the reader may want to take however many grains of salt deemed appropriate.

                                                                  I've had four great meals at Restaurant AUGUST, but one with crappy service (though no fault of our waiter). It was enough to drop them out of my "top five," but not enough to include them in a "bottom five."

                                                                  I, too, would rank CENTRAL GROCERY's muffalettas far above the ones at NAPOLEON HOUSE, which I would not order again.

                                                                  The worst meal we've ever had was probably at VIZZARD'S, although I wasn't crazy about the oysters at FELIX. Both of these would probably be in my "bottom five," but with the same "grain of salt" proviso as Stella!

                                                                  UPPERLINE wasn't necessarily great food, but I wouldn't put it in a "bottom five" -- just take it as the "campy" place it is.

                                                                  As for MOTHER'S, I can't really comment -- all the bad comments have kept us away . . .

                                                                  Cheers,
                                                                  Jason

                                                                  1. Great topic!
                                                                    5. Mothers: Fun to watch people have melt-downs though
                                                                    4. Stella! : should be called SNOBBY!
                                                                    3. Felix Oyster: Like dining near the bathroom at the bus station
                                                                    2. Elizabeth's: Winner of the nasty bathroom
                                                                    1. Margaritaville: Duh!

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                                                                    1. re: sunsuze

                                                                      Actually, rethink Margaritaville -- or at least go back to try it these days.

                                                                      I went in with an out-of-town friend who simply HAD to go there several months ago. I was amazed at how much things had improved (cuisine-wise, I mean -- it's still the same decor). I know the place is a tourist mecca -- but it's not the same crapola food it used to be.

                                                                      1. re: ZydecoPlayer

                                                                        I went to Margaritaville one night because I wanted a chili dog and did not have the guts to buy a Lucky Dog on the street. The two chili dogs were really good. I know we are only talking about hot dogs here, but I have had some bad ones over the years and at least Margaritaville came through when I needed it.

                                                                        Bigray in Ok

                                                                        1. re: Bigrayok

                                                                          shoulda tried a lucky dog. as one of our only street foods, it aint bad. its a chili dog!

                                                                          1. re: kibbles

                                                                            I split one with a friend about 2AM Thursday night/Friday morning after a few cocktails. They really are pretty damn good!

                                                                        2. re: ZydecoPlayer

                                                                          Is this the Jimmy Buffett mini-chain" If so, we did the LV location for a quick lunch and were surprised. Neither expected much, and the food, the limited wine list, and the service were all good. The overall ambiance was "sports bar," but we were able to overlook that.

                                                                          Have not dined at the NO "branch," but if LV is any indication, it could have been a lot worse, and we expected that.

                                                                          If it is NOT part of that chain - well, never mind.

                                                                          Hunt

                                                                          1. re: Bill Hunt

                                                                            I take people at their word when praising Margaritaville, but when in New Orleans, why bother, even if it is better than one would expect?

                                                                            1. re: Blumie

                                                                              I agree with you. Had it not been a quick lunch, we would likely not even done it in LV. Still, I had to "eat my words," as all was much better than I had expected.

                                                                              Still, on the next five trips to LV, neither of us has gone back, opting for more "adverterous fare."

                                                                              In NOLA, I cannot imagine that I'd be dining there, but stranger things have happened.

                                                                              Hunt

                                                                              1. re: Blumie

                                                                                Because on a beautiful day, you can sit upstairs on the balcony, grab a snack and a beer and watch the street scene below. Did this during Mardi Gras this year and thoroughly enjoyed ourselves. I also pop in for a mojito "to go".

                                                                                1. re: JazzyB

                                                                                  Yes, we did similar in LV. After a surprisingly good burger, and not bad wines, we moved to the balcony and watched the tableau on the Strip. It was probably only about 80% of Mardi Gras, but not bad for "people watching."

                                                                                  While I would not fight to go back, it was actually far better, than I had anticipated.

                                                                                  Hunt

                                                                                  1. re: Bill Hunt

                                                                                    Yes, this is part of the chain but the locations do vary from town to town. There is one thing that can be said for Margaritaville though...they have the BEST margarita ever, "The Jimmy's Perfect Margarita" served on the rocks. Went in there a few years back just to get a beverage and stumbled on these jewels. As another poster stated, perfect for a sitting on the balcony on a gorgeous day in the quarter.

                                                                                    1. re: HrtnNola

                                                                                      Thank you for the clarification. Sometimes, chains, and mini-chains can sound like other spots.

                                                                                      While I would be less inclined to try any sort of "chain," while I'm in NOLA, I'm glad to hear that this location is a good one.

                                                                                      Thanks,

                                                                                      Hunt

                                                                        3. There are a lot of "good restaurants" mentioned here. Primarily, the negatives seem to come from "one bad trip" and not a general consenses. Someone has had a bad trip to every restaurant in New Orleans at one time or another. Another thought is "just what are you going to a particular restaurant for? Example:

                                                                          Court Of The Two Sisters is a so-so restaurant. But I enjoy it a great deal when...
                                                                          *I have 3 or 4 hours to kill for weekday brunch.
                                                                          *I want to catch up on my business or newspaper reading.
                                                                          *I'm not with a crowd of other people (alone or with SO).
                                                                          *I can sit in the courtyard in pleasant weather.

                                                                          1. Domilise's
                                                                            Domilise's
                                                                            Domilise's
                                                                            Domilise's
                                                                            Domilise's

                                                                            1. Just returned from NOLA. Hadnt intended to go there but it just happened! Blundered into Tujagues for dinner on the first night.The prix fix dinner was decent but not fantastic.Three things stand out : the oyster/artichoke soup,fantastic bread pudding and great service. Its like an old call girl whos seen better days but still has a little spark. Day 2 started with the three course breakfast at Brennans. This was something Ive wanted to do since I was a kid. Service was outstanding, food was good but not great.Day three had brunch at the Court of the Two Sisters : average at best .
                                                                              Had the muf at Central Grocery. The bread was the best part< (Whats with the crappy bread in NOLA?) I have typed this after 7 hours on the road so I hope it makes sense.

                                                                              1. Antoine's
                                                                                Arnaud's
                                                                                Commander's
                                                                                Central Grocery
                                                                                Mother's
                                                                                Emeril's
                                                                                Palace Cafe
                                                                                Acme
                                                                                Felix's
                                                                                Galatoire's
                                                                                Camelia Grill
                                                                                Iris
                                                                                Coop's Place
                                                                                Mosca's
                                                                                Irene's Cuisine
                                                                                GW Fins
                                                                                Cafe Giovanni

                                                                                Many others.........................

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                                                                                1. re: MIKELOCK34

                                                                                  i have to say that i just had fantastic meals at eight(commanders, central, mothers, acme, felix's, galatoires, coops, irenes) restaurants on this list &, last year, had great meals at two(mosca's & palace) others. these were terrific experiences on almost ALL levels & i was VERY happy to pay whatever i paid for them. this kind of demonstrates the problem w/lists like these. some folks have one bad experience, take it personally, & see red whenever they hear a restaurant's name forevermore. or they go to acme OYSTER bar but don't like seafood & find their steak not done the way ruth's cris would do it. i usually put a restaurant on my "not recommended" list only after they've failed on some basic level of expectation(food, service, ambiance)three times. a place like tujaques is on there because they've failed a number of times in my experience. but i have to say that doesn't bring me any satisfaction putting them on it & announcing it. & just being deliberately provocative doesn't do anything for anybody, it seems to me. i'd rather hear about the good experiences we all have OR a detailed accounting of why the experience didn't work. & i still DRINK in the bar at tujaques. it's just a lovely space.

                                                                                  1. re: bataille2

                                                                                    I do not take poor food personnaly, that is a silly thing to do. We have been served very mediocre to horrible food at the places listed. Throw in mediocre to poor service for many of them and we would not recommend them to anyone. If you would like some examples from these restaurants, here they are:

                                                                                    Mosca's: Eleven visits. Very poor service each time. Very innatentive staff. The Shrimp Mosca's is twelve tiny overcooked shrimp submerged in oil with old dried seasonings added. Tasteless. Not worth $30.00 an order. The Oysters Mosca's is one dozen oysters with canned bread crumbs poured over the top with the entire dish covered in oil. Tasteless and not worth $30.00 an order. Cash only can be annoying too.

                                                                                    Cafe Giovanni: One visit. The rissoto dish that I ordered was innedible. The rice was raw. Not undercooked, raw. It was the equivalent of chewing aquarium gravel. The pasta dish we ordered was 85% seasoning and a little meat and sauce. It was innedible. The service was rock bottom. The server discarded our wine with three or four ounces still in the bottle. The fried oyster appetizer was terrible. Overly sweet sauce with a couple of poorly seasoned fried oysters. Spoke to chef duke about that meal later. He said that he was not there that night. Convenient.

                                                                                    Irene's Cuisine: One visit. Poor service. Server was angry before he came to the table. He was arguing with two other staff members about something. The fried softshell crab was so salty it was innedible. The Baked Alaska was tasteless and they poured way too much brandy over it. Appetizer was okay.

                                                                                    Palace Cafe: Two visits. Ordered one glass of wine and one bottle of wine. The wine by the glass was very astringent. They refused to take it back. The server was very rude and pointedly left the glass on the table. The odor from the glass was terrible. Ordered a rare tuna steak. They did not have the expertise to know that you must bring the steak to room temperature before cooking it rare. The center of the tuna came to the table frozen. Another visit. My GF took a client there. They were ignored for 30 minutes. When the server finally came, they were left again for more than 30 minutes. It took them three hours to complete a very poor meal. Palace Cafe later brought my GF a gift at her office to try to make up for the meal. After the fact, that is too late when a client was involved.

                                                                                    GW Fins: The worst seafood meal that I have ever had. The lobster ravioli was almost empty. The sauce was water for that. Tasteless. The scallops and risotto was the worst single dish that I have ever been served. The rice must have been precooked and then heated up to serve. It was like melted rubber and melted plastic mixed together. It tasted horrible. The scallops were completely burned and dried out. They were terrible. The entire meal the front of house staff was standing in a group talking. Very innattentive service.

                                                                                    Commanders: Three visits. Mediocre food. Ordinary service.

                                                                                    Arnaud's, Galatoire's, Antoine's: mediocre food and mediocre service.

                                                                                    Central Grocery: twenty plus visits. We used to love them. Now their Muff is about 3/4 of an inch high. It is basically a big bread sandwich.

                                                                                    Camellia Grill: Dried overcooked omelets. Fun service. Dirty restaurant.

                                                                                    Coop's Place: Worst poboy that I have ever tried. The French bread was like sawdust. It cut the top of my mouth. The pork roast was dry as dust and tasteless.

                                                                                    Iris: Very poor service. Poor food and food combinations. Tough pasta and overcooked scallops.

                                                                                    Acme, Felix's: Very poor food. Good oysters.

                                                                                    Emeril's: overpriced for what they serve. Ordinary food.

                                                                                    I can list more if you would like me to. Add Pascal's Manale to the list too. Worst seafood overall that I have ever had. Eight visits. Between us, my GF and I have traveled to fifty-one countries. We have tried many different foods around the world. Our/My opinions are based on what we think is great and not from the foods that we have tried. As for revisiting restaurants that were disappointing, we do that depending upon how poor the food was on the first visit. We refuse to give more money to someone who has previously served us garbage. That would be a silly thing to do. Let me know if you would like anymore information on our experiences at any of these places. We are very friendly and happy customers when we walk in the door. It would take quite a lot to make us mad.

                                                                                    1. re: MIKELOCK34

                                                                                      no need to continue on my account. this IS what i was talking about tho: you're pretty thorough in your critiques. mainly, though, it makes clear your critical biases & that's important for readers too. i'm not entirely clear what "my opinions are based on what we think is great and not from the foods that we have tried" means but that sounds like you have pre-conceived notions that restaurants have to meet to satisfy you. that just seems to me to be a little limiting like saying anything that doesn't resemble rembrandt isn't art. you're missing out on quite a bit w/that perspective i think. for example, i had a great sandwich at the swizzle stick bar at cafe adelaide. they called it a bbq duck po'boy but it really was more a panini. i've been eating po'boys for nearly 40 years at this point from acy's & parasol to genes & have a pretty good idea what a po'boy is. i could have nit-picked & NOT enjoyed the "po-boy" but, well, it was really good.
                                                                                      btw, i agree about pascal manale's. they weren't particularly good when i ate there 30 years ago & had to stand in line for two hours to finally be seated at a bad table & be served(rudely)mediocre food at best. they never got any better over the course of a decade or so. they'd be on my list of "not recommended" if i bothered. like i said before, i just had fantastic meals in 8 of the places on your list. so it goes...

                                                                                      1. re: MIKELOCK34

                                                                                        i have to point this out, but youve evidently had remarkably poor service/food at many restaurants held in high regard. for ex most feedback on Commander's is tight. Irene's is also almost universally praised, esp for their service. etc..(in particular i had such exceptional service at GW Fin's i thanked the floor manager).

                                                                                        it seems that however unlikely, youve experienced some bad first impressions at some pretty good restaurants. i hope youre able to give some of those another shot.

                                                                                    2. re: MIKELOCK34

                                                                                      Sorry that you have had bad meals at some of these. We've had the opposite at:
                                                                                      Arnaud's
                                                                                      Emeril's
                                                                                      Palace Café
                                                                                      Felix'
                                                                                      Galatoire's
                                                                                      Camelia Grill
                                                                                      G W Fins

                                                                                      Matter of fact, we've never had a poor meal at any of those. Guess we hit them on the good days...

                                                                                      Hunt

                                                                                      1. re: Bill Hunt

                                                                                        Bill, we have also had very good meals at the restaurants you listed as well as at the well respected restaurants on the other list. If we have a particularly bad meal or particularly bad service we don't go back. Why would a person return to a restaurant eleven times when he considers the service poor and inattentive and the food tasteless? The people of New Orleans are blessed to have so many restaurants to choose from.

                                                                                        1. re: speyerer

                                                                                          EEK,
                                                                                          mikelock,
                                                                                          The question is, what DO you like?

                                                                                          11 times? ALL BAD? Why would you keep going back?

                                                                                          Are you overly stressed when you dine out? It seems nobody is ever nice to you.

                                                                                          1. re: Suzy Wong

                                                                                            Suzy,

                                                                                            I think that you and Speyerer have made a good point. When I'm looking at recs. and pans, for a particular restaurant, I'll often look at other reviews, that the posters have made. I want some sort of "frame of reference."

                                                                                            I've used reviewers (motion pictures, literary art, wines, restaurants), with whom I disagree. However, if you know where that reviewer is "coming from," it's easier to decide whether a good review is likely to work for you. Cannot recall the writer's name now, but back in the '60s, "Playboy" magazine had a movie critic. I soon found that if he liked a film, I was likely to not. Same for films, that he panned - I was likely to enjoy them. I used his reviews to my own devices and chose the opposite. Almost 100% success.

                                                                                            Much of this is just "frame of reference." If you know what does, and doesn't turn them on, you can base your selections on that. For someone, whose predispositions are unknow, you have to do the math, and it can seem like calculus.

                                                                                            I cannot imagine that I would ever come close to "eleven" times at any restaurant, that I did not like. Closest that I have come, has been 4x to Morton's Steakhouse, and all of these have been as a guest, plus I usually got to pick the wines! I have made excuses, why we cannot join people, if that is the only choice. Four strikes, and they are definitely OUT. I hesitate to either praise or pan, any restaurant, with only one experience. We have to, so I always try to qualify my review, or my reply, so people can judge my words, based on a limited exposure. This is especialy true, if I have only given them one try and had a bad experience. I also try, on the NOLA board, to put into perspective, whether my good, or bad, experience was pre, or post-K, as that DOES make a big difference. Another reason to check out a poster. Did they go in '02, or '07? Who was the chef then? New ownership? Lot more questions, than answers.

                                                                                            Once, on another food board, I kept finding horrible stories of service and food, in a particular geographic region. I Googled that poster, and read all that I could find, in the way of reviews. It soon became apparent, that they hated every restaurant in the region, and had experienced almost the same problems with each - to the point that I began to think of the old B/W TV show, "The Twilight Zone." How could they have had the same bad experiences at a dozen different restaurants?

                                                                                            There are probably twenty posters on this board, who have my greatest resptect. I may not agree with every comment, but know that they are telling it, like it was on their visit(s). Same on the SW board, and the Elsewhere in America/Hawai`i board. I believe that they post the truth - good, and bad, and that is how it was, when they visited.

                                                                                            I feel sorry for Mikelock, that so very many experiences have been bad. I would be hard pressed to have that many bad spots in any 3 cities on the globe, but maybe I'm just lucky?

                                                                                            Hunt

                                                                                            1. re: Suzy Wong

                                                                                              People are almost always nice to us. I have had too much great food to be fooled by some of the poor food served in New Olreans that others find wonderful. Business obligations often force us to dine at restaurants that we would otherwise never visit. Each person's past experience with food will always influence their current views.

                                                                                              1. re: MIKELOCK34

                                                                                                old thread alert:
                                                                                                hmmm...why the long wait to respond...over 9 mos.???

                                                                                                1. re: MIKELOCK34

                                                                                                  I got EC's "zombie alert," but I am in the same boat. I've never paid for a meal at any Morton's Steakhouse, and I am usually required to order the wines, at my host's/hostess' direction. I've probably dined at a half-dozen, and some more than once. I would still not recommend one. I would also not dine at one, were I not a guest.

                                                                                                  In business, this does happen. I feel the same about two local restaurants in the PHX area, though I have not dined at either so often - fortunately.

                                                                                                  Just an observation - regardless of the time-frame.

                                                                                                  Hunt

                                                                                                  1. re: Bill Hunt

                                                                                                    thats funny because theyre one of the few chains that i will patronize. the filet has never disappointed, the jumbo lump app is lumped heaven, and the cocktails are awesome (do they all have the housemade passionfruit foam?).

                                                                                                    the $99 dinner-for-two special is lots of quality food - more than we can ever eat and we usually pack it away.

                                                                                                    PS - the Chowhound search engine limits threads to the past year, so how do the zombie threads stay alive??

                                                                                                    1. re: kibbles

                                                                                                      I *believe* that one can use a drop-down to extend the search. Things do seem to change, so I'm not positive any more.

                                                                                                      As for Morton's, you have obviously had much better fortune, than I have.

                                                                                                      To date, I've been a guest at the Denver restaurant 3x, Phoenix/Scottsdale 3x combined, and Chicago 2x. Not once have I paid, and not once have I been even moderately impressed. Maybe I have been horribly unlucky.

                                                                                                      Last night, we attened an event with about 80 diners. It was held at a local, chef-driven FR restaurant, though one with a Southwest bent. The filet that I had, with carmalized ginger, was in the top-10 of all time, and was about 1/3 of the choices of the room. My wife's salmon was probably in the top-5 of all time, and this dish was served to about half of the room. No Morton's has ever come close.

                                                                                                      I'm not disputing that your meals were not very good. I'm only saying that mine have been anything but. Yes, the wine list is good, but highly overpriced, whether I am paying, or not.

                                                                                                      Hunt

                                                                                                    2. re: Bill Hunt

                                                                                                      I am not impressed with Morton's either. Smith and Wollensky is a different story. Been to the one in Vegas as well as the now closed local outpost. Both were very good.

                                                                                            1. From what I've seen on this thread the only place left in NOLA to eat is McDonald's...

                                                                                              1. My turn......

                                                                                                1. Brennans (most overated....terrible food and highly overpriced----never again)
                                                                                                2. Copelands (uuuugh.....so done!)
                                                                                                3. Mothers (tourist trap with long lines....why?)
                                                                                                4. Acme Oyster (ditto...wait outside for what?)
                                                                                                5. K-Paul (no redfish...what? It was alright but nothing to write home about)

                                                                                                BTW, Bayona is one of the best restaurants in the city. The food is amazing. Jacque Imos is also really nice....but you don't go there for good service. Its all in the alligator cheesecake. You cant get more creative than that!

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                                                                                                1. re: rchill

                                                                                                  Rchill,

                                                                                                  I do agree with you on two: Copelands (anything), and Mothers, but these are based on my trips over for the last 30 years, and not from the perspecitve of a local.

                                                                                                  Do also agree about Bayona (last visit and reviewed), but have problems with some others. However, I only base that last comment on MY experiences.

                                                                                                  Thanks for the comments,

                                                                                                  Hunt

                                                                                                  1. re: Bill Hunt

                                                                                                    Bill -- I always enjoy reading your thoughtful posts. As for reviving an ancient thread, obviously, this one is still relevant (and excites amusing expressions, which is what makes this board so entertaining). I wish to pick up something mentioned in someone else's comment: restaurant bathrooms. Obviously we go primarily for food, service and atmosphere. But if you're in a nice place (or even an OK place) and stop in the bathroom to find that it is an absolute pig-sty, it really makes you wonder what the ownership or management of the establishment things about hygiene! I had dinner at NOLA a few years back (positively wonderful food and service, notwithstanding the many detractors on this board), and found the bathroom to be deplorable. Honestly, how hard is it to keep a bathroom reasonably clean and stocked?

                                                                                                    1. re: ClevelandRandy

                                                                                                      It also makes me wonder about the hygiene behind those kitchen doors. Should I use the facilities, I do expect them to match the rest of the restaurant. Otherwise, I wonder and I worry.

                                                                                                      Hunt

                                                                                                      1. re: Bill Hunt

                                                                                                        The easiest thing to take away from the appearance of a bathroom is this.....Everyone sees the bathroom. If it is in poor shape, what does the kitchen that no -one sees look like? Gives ya chills huh?

                                                                                                  2. re: rchill

                                                                                                    rchill,

                                                                                                    mother's is an overrated tourist trap but since i work across the street i have hit it between the crowds and have enjoyed several times what i believe is the best turkey po boy in the city. it's like pieces of roasted thanksgiving day turkey on po boy bread with gooey mayo and shreddded cabbage. seriously good turkey. while i'm yappin about turkey the world deli on esplaande and clearvuew might have them beat. thin sliced tender tureky piled high with all the fixins toasted in overn for three or four minutes. awesome! also, the potato salad is not to be missed. i know these comments have nothing to do with restaurants you wouldn't rec but i saw mother's in your post and started thiinkin bout awesome turkey po boys!

                                                                                                    1. re: rchill

                                                                                                      K-Paul's has no redfish because it's illegal to sell wild redfish. Instead of using a farmed fish, I substitutes, I believe, drum (all in the same family).

                                                                                                    2. 1. Mother's - SOOOO overrated!
                                                                                                      2. Central Grocery - Their muffs are pretty good, but I just cannot get into the whole being rude to your customers schtik.
                                                                                                      3. Mulate's - Tourist trap and sub-par food.
                                                                                                      4. Star Steak & Lobster - HORRIBLE food.
                                                                                                      5. Acme - Felix's is just as good without the outrageous lines.

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                                                                                                      1. re: nikinik

                                                                                                        My take on Acme:

                                                                                                        1. The ONLY reason to go there is for oysters. 2. The ONLY place to sit is right in front of the shuckers. 3. If you only want oysters and want to sit in front of the shuckers, DO NOT get in the line. Instead, just walk in the door and grab an available seat or let one of the shuckers know you're looking for a seat. They'll take care of you.

                                                                                                        1. re: Blumie

                                                                                                          Acme's off my list. You're right, if the shucker's not looking you in the eye while shucking, no tellin' what you will get...have received all kinds of trash in my oysters at the table. Plus, the fried seafood in the last few seafood po-boys had sat under the light for a loooong time. Bleh.

                                                                                                          1. re: Hungry4Good

                                                                                                            Try Felix's Oysters. In regards to Jacques Imos, it is one of my favorite casual dining spots. but again, it is all subjective.

                                                                                                      2. I can't think of five, which I guess is a good thing. Only two really bad dining experiences stick out in my mind. I assume to make this list, the experience should be awful.

                                                                                                        Jacque-Imo's
                                                                                                        Gato Negro

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                                                                                                        1. re: flojindamesa

                                                                                                          Gautreaus: bland, poorly composed flavor combinations. A total waste of time and money.

                                                                                                        2. Since no one mentioned Fury's in Metairie, I was wondering what ya'll think. I love it and never find anything wrong with the place. On the otherhand, Middendorf's is one of the worst places to eat seafood. Try Bozo's if you want good seafood. Also, Mr. Ed's is the place to eat for a good meal. Deanie's sucks!! You don't have to impress someone with a big name cause they're usually not worth it.

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                                                                                                          1. re: ghc630

                                                                                                            Middendorf's is one of the worst places to eat seafood? Man, do we have a difference of opinion on this one. I've eaten there probably 30 times over the years and have never been disappointed!

                                                                                                            1. re: Clarkafella

                                                                                                              Bourbon House has been pretty bad and I have wanted to love this restaurant cleaning fluid was a dominant flavor for one meal

                                                                                                              1. re: joedontexan

                                                                                                                Bourbon House oyster bar is consistently reliable. However, other food does not impress, particularly their heavy, batter-laden, "chicken-fried" fried seafood.

                                                                                                                1. re: Hungry4Good

                                                                                                                  The oyster bar is great at bourbon house cooked food I cant say that its good.

                                                                                                                  1. re: Hungry4Good

                                                                                                                    yeah im a fan of their oysters. the baked oyster trio is a fantastic set of oyster training wheels for squeamish out of town guests (as are the fried BBQ oysters at sister restaurant Red Fish).

                                                                                                            2. 1. Tujague's. OK food, but way too overpriced and not worth it when you can't even choose your menu.
                                                                                                              2. August. Pretentious, food was mostly tasteless except for the stuff that tasted bad, and the "nouvelle" ingredients seemed to serve no purpose.
                                                                                                              3. Bon Ton Cafe. Overpriced and the food was mostly bad. I don't like sugar in my crab dishes.
                                                                                                              4. Acme Oyster House. They destroy their fried foods, and I don't like oysters. Living on their publicity.
                                                                                                              5. Jacques-Imo's. Food was overly salty. Not worth the extraordinarily long wait, and an attitude, to boost.

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                                                                                                              1. re: Hoc

                                                                                                                Wait three hours for Jacques imos? NO Boucherie cheap? No

                                                                                                              2. One thing I know for sure is that I would not suggest Stella and I made the mistake of lunching at Bacco...still gives me shudders.

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                                                                                                                1. re: evalafemme

                                                                                                                  heh, i like the poster's comment from way back which notes this list mentions every single restaurant :)

                                                                                                                  as for Bacco's lunch - i love it! Baccos & Mr. B's have some of the best BBQ skrimps around.. plus they have a nice lunch special, and as always 10-cent martinis during lunch. my guests are always delighted...

                                                                                                                2. Give or take a few, I disagree with a lot of the "bottom 5" restaurantson this list. I do agree that some are overated, but not bottom 5 material. I guess you can have horrible experiences anywhere depending on circumstances. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but to say Bayona and Commander's are bottom five material is just plain crazy!

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                                                                                                                  1. re: ScarlettNola

                                                                                                                    You know, it's probably time to retire this particular thread and do two new ones:

                                                                                                                    1.) Where would you dine, if it was you last meal?

                                                                                                                    2.) Where would you NOT dine, regardless if you brother-in-law was paying?

                                                                                                                    As has been observed, every restaurant in NOLA (and environs) has been listed here. Were this all-inclusive list even close, there would be nowhere to dine in NOLA, beyond a McDonalds on Vets. Think about it for a moment.

                                                                                                                    Maybe the time is right to retire this "zombie," and start with a clean slate.

                                                                                                                    Hunt

                                                                                                                  2. The "bottom feeding" five New Orleans restaurants:
                                                                                                                    1) Stella! Crazy dishes, lousy service, high prices
                                                                                                                    2) Anything Al Copeland A constant disaster
                                                                                                                    3)Brennan's $40 eggs anyone?
                                                                                                                    4)Dickie Brennan's Steakhouse Needs some management
                                                                                                                    5)Antoine's WAY past it's prime

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                                                                                                                    1. re: oystershell

                                                                                                                      Interesting. I will agree with #2, #4 and will allow you #5 (based on last visit, immediately pre-K). However, will argue #1 and #3, based on my personal dining. Matter of fact, Stella! is one of my highest recs.

                                                                                                                      Amazing how things can be different for different people, isn't it?

                                                                                                                      Hunt

                                                                                                                      1. re: Bill Hunt

                                                                                                                        It is exactly that, different perspectives/expectations, etc. However the last time I was there is the LAST time I'll ever darken their door. My disappointment level on this rare and very special occasion was an 11.

                                                                                                                        1. re: oystershell

                                                                                                                          You are not the only one. Many have echoed similar sentiments. Maybe I was just fortunate.

                                                                                                                          Maybe it's time to start this discussion anew. This one has 123 posts and spans back many years.

                                                                                                                          Thanks for sharing, even if the experience was not a good one.

                                                                                                                          Hunt

                                                                                                                    2. Desire Oyster Bar, Bourbon Street - oysters not property chilled, greasy, small def. imported fried crawfish tails

                                                                                                                      Ernst Cafe - no matter how drunk you are!!

                                                                                                                      1. Wow! I've never seen so many posts from so many snobby and pretentious people! So many people knocking some of the finest restaurants not only in this city, but in this country. Get off your high horses and enjoy a night out once in a while without criticizing every little minor flaw in service or food. I've had a fine meal in almost every restaurant everyone listed on this thread and I have very high expectations when I go out to eat. Dining out is supposed to be fun. Relax and enjoy it!

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                                                                                                                        1. re: dward1112

                                                                                                                          What a ridiculous comment on a board dedicated to finding the best chow. Should we just love everything we eat and pretend it's all good?

                                                                                                                          1. re: dward1112

                                                                                                                            It is all your perception. Different people have different palates as well as styles of dining and that is the beauty of America in general. We can all have completely different opinions about anything and have the freedom to do so. I eat anywhere I can find the best chow-from a dive to a five star restaurant and enjoy each experience equally. There are poor experiences to be had at ANY restaurant, finest in the country not withstanding, depending on many variables. Different people at different tables in the same exact place can have COMPLETELY different dining experiences from horrible to excellent depending on waitiers, timing, busboys, chefs, etc. I say take it all in and have an opinion on what you consider good or bad and let it be known.

                                                                                                                            1. re: dward1112

                                                                                                                              One must first consider that the OP was in '04. Much has changed, and well it should. Next, one should look at individual's tastes and preferences - good, bad, or indifferent.

                                                                                                                              What might work for you, may well not work for me. That is the beauty of this forum. I may collect Michelin stars, and you might not. What plays well for me, might not be of any importance to you.

                                                                                                                              It's not about a "high horse," but personal likes, dislikes and also expectations. So long as one makes these clear in their reviews, and comments, another reader can gain useful info.

                                                                                                                              Sorry that you do not see things, as I feel they should be. That shows only a difference in what you wish, and what I wish - nothing more, and nothing less.

                                                                                                                              Upcoming reviews will skewer a few "sacred cows," but that is how it goes. I, like most reviewers here, base their reports on personal tastes, expectations and exactly what came out of the kitchen on the night we were there.

                                                                                                                              Not sure what you are looking for, but I do not recall a lot of reviews, that ran counter to the majority. Maybe I just missed them.

                                                                                                                              Hunt

                                                                                                                            2. Petunia's is NOT to be recommended. What a sad, slow death for a restaurant that used to be fantastic and world-renowned (Julia Child loved this restaurant). Ever since Katrina, the service is non-existent. I visit NOLA 2X a year and I have tried going back hoping the old Petunia's is back but never again will I waste time and go back.

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                                                                                                                              1. re: gkclapp

                                                                                                                                I used to really love Petunia's but was not too impressed as of late. Suprisingly (or not) they closed June 1st.

                                                                                                                                1. re: ScarlettNola

                                                                                                                                  Had to bring back an oldie but a goodie. I must add Camellia Grill in the french quarter horrible hamburger that I had last month.

                                                                                                                                  -----
                                                                                                                                  Camellia Grill
                                                                                                                                  626 S Carrollton Ave, New Orleans, LA 70118

                                                                                                                                  1. re: joedontexan

                                                                                                                                    That is a shame. I cannot recall ever having a hamburger, at the original, and that would have been pre-K for me.

                                                                                                                                    I have heard good things about the new FQ location, but have not dined there. Have not even made it to the original (S. Carrolton Ave.) post-K, as they were closed, and in flux for some time.

                                                                                                                                    Sorry to hear that,

                                                                                                                                    Hunt

                                                                                                                              2. Well I see that this thread is still going 7 years after I posted it. My tastes have changes and the restaurants have all changed. If it were open, I would not put Marisol on the list anymore as I had a couple of good meals there in 2005. I have not been to Bayona since this list but there are plenty of worse places now. Ye Olde College is completely different; I have not been to Miyako; and Al is dead. The new Bottom 5 (with a caveat - these are not the worst I've ever been to, but places I would not recommend):

                                                                                                                                5. Ignatius Eatery - very blah
                                                                                                                                4. Antoine's - food does not begin to justify the sky high prices.
                                                                                                                                3. Luke - so much potential, but misses as often as it hits
                                                                                                                                2. Felix's - standing at the oyster bar is the absolute only way to get any edible food at this restaurant. Order off the menu at your own peril.
                                                                                                                                1. Broussard's - this place desparately needs a makeover.

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                                                                                                                                Bayona
                                                                                                                                430 Dauphine St, New Orleans, LA 70112

                                                                                                                                Ignatius Eatery
                                                                                                                                4200 Magazine St, New Orleans, LA 70115

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                                                                                                                                1. re: fat harry

                                                                                                                                  In June of 2008, I wrote the following:

                                                                                                                                  >>>>> I love BAYONA, and have only had a "weak" meal there once -- on our first visit after Katrina. We're going again this Fall, and we'll see . . .

                                                                                                                                  <edit>

                                                                                                                                  The worst meal we've ever had was probably at VIZZARD'S, although I wasn't crazy about the oysters at FELIX. Both of these would probably be in my "bottom five," but with the same "grain of salt" proviso as Stella! <<<<<

                                                                                                                                  Now, 3+ years later, I still disagree about Bayona (had a great meal there in April). Only been to Lüke once, but had a great meal (it must have "hit"), but I agree with the rest (FWIW) . . .

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                                                                                                                                  Bayona
                                                                                                                                  430 Dauphine St, New Orleans, LA 70112

                                                                                                                                  1. re: fat harry

                                                                                                                                    i kinda agree on Luke -- inconsistent and the service is often very weak. i think its a training bed for Besh's offerings. last time we were there a waitress almost lost some beer bottles from her tray and saved them via a juggling act, spilling some. i had to laugh as it was a trying moment, to which she glared at me and said "Yeah real funny, laugh it up." i was stunned...

                                                                                                                                    Broussard's has failed us every visit (3). owner-management isnt serious, imo.

                                                                                                                                    1. re: kibbles

                                                                                                                                      I think Luke is great for breakfast and lunch (and the lull between lunch & dinner for oysters at the bar). Dinner is another story. Fails to impress. And service is always an issue.

                                                                                                                                      I'm not sure what keeps Broussard's afloat.

                                                                                                                                      1. re: BayouTeche

                                                                                                                                        Been to Luke twice and it was great both times- both food and service. It was later in the evening on both occasions so maybe that had something to do with it.

                                                                                                                                  2. With my apologies to Coop's Place, we were told by many people they have the best fried chicken ever. To be honest I DO NOT like greasy food and fried chicken is usually too greasy for me so it is probably me. But I didn't like their fried chicken. Having said that, it must be really good cause lots of people told me to go there and there is a loooooong line. So if you like fried chicken, try it and prove me wrong because I'm telling you I think it is probably great but for some reason I wasn't thrilled. But who lines up for bad fried chicken?

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                                                                                                                                    Coop's Place
                                                                                                                                    1109 Decatur St, New Orleans, LA 70116

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                                                                                                                                    1. re: gkclapp

                                                                                                                                      tourists. it aint all that. but i reckon it's different than the sole option available to most suburban americans -- KFC. so they line up.

                                                                                                                                      1. re: kibbles

                                                                                                                                        While we're on the subject of fried chicken and over-hyped places, what does anyone think of (1) Willie Mae's and (2) Dookey Chase for fried chicken. Are they as good as the hype? Which is better?

                                                                                                                                        1. re: johnb

                                                                                                                                          Are they as good as the hype? Definitely not!
                                                                                                                                          Which is better? Popeyes

                                                                                                                                          1. re: speyerer

                                                                                                                                            Popeyes... without showing how old I am, the first time I ever had dirty rice was on a trip to New Orleans and for some reason we went to a Popeyes. This was in the 70s. I fell in love with dirty rice thanks to Popeyes. Now I make it myself and always order it if I see it on the menu. And speyerer you are right, the chickens not bad either! :-)

                                                                                                                                      2. re: gkclapp

                                                                                                                                        IMO folks like Coops for the "ambience" (lol) and b/c it is cheap. Taken in the context that it is a bar albeit with a sizable menu, the food is passable. Greasy fried
                                                                                                                                        chicken is probably one of their best offerings. Really people, are you coming to nola to eat bar food?

                                                                                                                                        Fat harry, I have never been to Ignatious, but you nailed the rest.

                                                                                                                                        1. re: JazzyB

                                                                                                                                          I was last in New Orleans in March 2009. I had Redfish Menuiere at Coops. It was the best meal I had on that trip. I have never had what I consider a bad meal at a New Orleans restaurant. It may be because I try to research where to go and I am thankful to be there in the first place.

                                                                                                                                          Bigray in Ok

                                                                                                                                      3. I just saw this thread and decided to but in my .02 for the 5 worst I've had in New Orleans.

                                                                                                                                        5. Pelican Club - recommened by one of the local food critics as one of the best in the city. Had
                                                                                                                                        one of our worst meals there.
                                                                                                                                        4. NOLA - Pretty bad and don't get it. Ordered a shrimp remoalaude and looked and tasted like
                                                                                                                                        more like a cocktail.
                                                                                                                                        3. Louie & the Redhead Lady - Crabcake was mostly filler and roast beef po-boy was chunked
                                                                                                                                        roast beef instead of sliced thin on a meat slicer
                                                                                                                                        2. Court of Two Sisters - brunch was not good period!!! I know it was a buffet and what did I
                                                                                                                                        expect? Something a whole bunch better.
                                                                                                                                        1. Mothers - Really don't get it for the price. Outrageous. The signs for no tipping? Try and
                                                                                                                                        see what kind of service you get!!
                                                                                                                                        -1. K-Pauls - Really a tourist trap in the Quarters. VERY overpriced for what you get.

                                                                                                                                        I know this list probably will upset some people. There are too many local restaurants to try more than once if we have a bad experience or the food is not any good. First impressions are everything.
                                                                                                                                        Peace Out!!!

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                                                                                                                                        Pelican Club Restaurant & Bar
                                                                                                                                        312 Exchange Alley, New Orleans, LA 70130

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                                                                                                                                        1. re: ilikeNOLA

                                                                                                                                          As with most personal observations, there are things that I can agree on, and then that have not held up in my experiences.

                                                                                                                                          Pelican Club - has gotten good, and also very bad recs. I had them booked, but had to cancel that trip. Next time, and the next, they did not fit into the mix, so have never done it. Still, some love it, yet some hate it.

                                                                                                                                          NOLA - only have dined there once. Other Lagasse restaurants, several times. They impressed me on every count, from FOH to service to wine service and especially regarding food. Still, many do not like that restaurant.

                                                                                                                                          Louie & Redheaded Lady - never even heard of it.

                                                                                                                                          Court of Two Sisters - been decades, as mentioned in another thread. Cannot comment.

                                                                                                                                          Mothers - never did get it, but have not been, since I left NOLA, in 1980. Maybe they have changed? Tried to eat elsewhere, though they were a few blocks from my studio.

                                                                                                                                          L-Paul's -been a bit, but back then, they were very good. Again, many love it, while others do not enjoy it. Mixed reviews.

                                                                                                                                          Thanks for the contribution,

                                                                                                                                          Hunt

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                                                                                                                                          Pelican Club Restaurant & Bar
                                                                                                                                          312 Exchange Alley, New Orleans, LA 70130

                                                                                                                                          1. re: Bill Hunt

                                                                                                                                            The Royal House oyster restaurant a total ripoff on the chargrilled oysters I had there two weeks ago never again. tiny tiny almost non existent oysters I felt cheated.

                                                                                                                                            1. re: joedontexan

                                                                                                                                              Have not dined at The Royal Oyster House, but does not sound like a restaurant that I would enjoy. Thanks for the H/U.

                                                                                                                                              Hunt

                                                                                                                                              1. re: joedontexan

                                                                                                                                                That's the size of the oysters this month. About the size of my fingernail. I've NEVER seen them this small before in my life. I got some at Tommy's in Clear Lake and again at Roux Pour in Sugarland this month - I was shocked at the size of them but that is by no means the restaurant's fault.

                                                                                                                                                1. re: texasredtop

                                                                                                                                                  Thanks for the heads up Red neither have I.

                                                                                                                                                  1. re: texasredtop

                                                                                                                                                    They closed the oyster beds in Mississippi after being opened for just five days! With all the flooding from the river this year, there was so much fresh water that it killed many of the oysters.

                                                                                                                                                    The oysters up here in Jackson are tiny as well- maybe they need to find some new sources until the local beds recover.

                                                                                                                                                    1. re: texasredtop

                                                                                                                                                      I had some nice big delicious ones at Casamento's a couple weeks ago, but I've also had some very wimpy ones at other places also supplied by P&J's so who knows. I think it's just a crap shoot basically.

                                                                                                                                                      1. re: uptownlibrarian

                                                                                                                                                        Yeah, I had very good-sized ones at Casamento's on Friday. Love that place!

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                                                                                                                                                        Casamento's Restaurant
                                                                                                                                                        4330 Magazine St, New Orleans, LA 70115

                                                                                                                                              2. Coops rabbit jambalaya yech!!!