barbecue in kansas city
- martin Sep 8, 2001 02:26 PM
day before thanksgiving have on evening free: staying in crown center but have car. best authentic bbq?
When this Easterner found herself in Kansas City several years ago, I swore to myself that if I got nowhere else I'd eat at Arthur Bryant's BBQ (fondly memorialized in Calvin Trillin's books) and found it to be just as described, and delicious. (Beer mugs kept in an old freezer for the frosty chill clinched it for me!)
Located at 18th and Brooklyn, I believe.
There are others in Kansas City who swear by Gates'. But I wouldn't know.
Chiming in on the BBQ: I don't care that much for Gates and love Jack Stack, which even has a non-smoking section. Some of the smaller places don't. And I want my meat smoked, not my air! *__*
Their beans are fantastic and in small portions; you might want to order extra. The cheesy corn bake is a mid-western cholesterol delight. Don't miss it and just eat fat-free for the next week! The onion rings are very good but don't live up to my ideal, which is based on New England boardwalk skinny crispy ones.
Lots o'que in KC. The pork sandwich at Arthur Bryant's with the original sauce is my fave. I have also eaten and Gates and Rosedale and enjoyed them both.
I like Haywards at College and Antioch the best. que is awesome and the fries come in huge quanities. Also really like there whole jalepenos to munch on. Smokestack/Jack Stack is good too but I think Arthur Bryants is overrated. Huge quantities but in my opinion not much quality.
Since you're staying in Crown Center, you're very close to Jack Fiorella's newest Jack Stack which is just north across the railroad tracks from Union Station.
I like every entree they serve, but I have to admit I'm particularly fond of their lamb ribs -- succulent and tasty! They also offer a terrific sampler platter.
The best hickory barbequed beans in town and the cheesy corn bake is good, too. A half order of the mammoth onion rings is a superb appetizer. Fiorella also offers some terrific smoked fish entrees and has a fine selection of micro and imported beers. I love the Chimay.
Nice decor. Fiorella's son-in-law, Case Dorman, manages the place and he's a heckuva nice guy.
By the way, all the Smokestacks in town are not Fiorella's Jack Stack. Fiorella's father founded the original Smokestack and Fiorella then opened his own Smokestack in the Martin City district of Kansas City (135th & Holmes) 27 years ago. Other family members own and operate the Smokestacks in Grandview and on Wornall Road, and more recently other family members have opened other Smokestack venues.
A few years ago, Fiorella was looking to expand and opened a restaurant in Overland Park (95th & Metcalf), but he was looking to establish his own identity so as not to be confused with the other Smokestack operations. That's when the name Jack Stack Barbecue began and he also changed the name of his Martin City Smokestack to Jack Stack.
Just to be clear, Jack Fiorella owns and operates the Jack Stacks at 135th & Holmes, 95th & Metcalf, and in the Crossroads district by Union Station. His standards and menus are different from the Smokestacks operated by other family members.
As others have mentioned LC's, I'll recommend it, too. I mostly go to the one in KCMO on Blue Parkway, but as stated before, it's a hole in the wall joint. The one on 95th west of I-35 in Lenexa is just as good, but I just like the funkier ambience of the one on Blue Parkway.
I have to give my thumbs up to Jack's Stack BBQ, or what was formely called the Smokehouse of Martin City. Great BBQ, and the best "pit beans" in the world.
I have been to KC Masterpice and Gates, they where both good, but my vote is Jack Stack:
13441 Holmes Rd
Kansas City, MO 64145
Tel: (816) 942-9141
I was given Authur Bryant's BBQ sauce as a gift, and I didn't much care for it's vinegary taste. As a former St. Louisian, my favoirte is still Maull's.
Ok, I may be out of date on this, but this one's for the chowhounds. AB's and Gates and a few others get a lot of press, but the real deal is Little Jake's downtown. It is pink and small enough that they do the smokin' on the roof. I don't know if they're open at night.
I was in KC for 6 weeks working at a customer site (software) about 5 years ago, and I tried 6 or 7 bbq places, most were pretty good, but Little Jake's was the only one I went to more than once and the one I'd go to if I could only go to one.
Also in KC and pretty good for the American Posh style is Cafe Allegro.
Having grown up in Kansas City and eaten everywhere, my favorite is Oklahoma Joe's at 47th and Mission Rd. Just west of the Country Club Plaza on the Kansas side of the state line, Joe's is clean (ask a few locals about Gates getting shut down by the health inspector), reasonably priced (hey KC Masterpiece, rent must be a bitch!), and the service is outstanding. Award-winning, great menu. Although I've moved far away now, I still go at least two or three times when I come back to town.
P.S. Bryant's is OK, but it's more of a tradition than a delicacy these days. IMHO, not worth the extra navigation to get there.
Well, I'm a little behind the time curve here, but the signifigant other and I just did a 1,000 mile round trip to KC to eat barbecue. We had many good dishes, but the stand-out was Gates' "mutton." Wow!
Thank's to all of you chowhounds my trip to Kansas was very successful,I loved the city and will be back when the weather is warmer, sadly though because of the time limit I had I did not get to a few places I wanted to go to,like Arthur Bryant's,instead of going there we wound up at a disgusting Bar.B.Q place called ZARDA trust me it was the worst we ever tasted, the sandwiches they call pork sand's was like the shaved lunch meat we buy in the packages at the grocery store,even that has more taste,plus they top it with sauce that's not the same sauce they put on the table, not to mention the baked beans which where soooo digustingly sweet.
Just want to share this with the reader's so they don't go through what we did.
Oh no, not Zarda! I'm sorry. Its definitely not representative. The only thing worse is KC Masterpiece or Famous Dave's. So much good 'Cue in KC, OK Joe's, Smokin Guns, LC's, Gate's gets bad marks from a lot of folks but I like their brisket. I'm not real fond of Jack's Stack and prefer any of the others listed. Please come back and give it another shot.
I like BB's. Its different from everywhere else. They use a lot of apple juice in their sauce. It was a bit of a shock the first time I tried it, but its definately good. I like the roadhouse feel of the place too.
I'm not sure about New Year's Day hours. I'll be firing up my smoker and watching football.
Anyone remember Nash's Hickory Pit on Hwy 5 just out of Gravios Mills? I realize that it's long long gone but any talk about good bbq always reminds me of Merle and Grady's place. Now THAT was real "que!"