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Jun 3, 2001 01:28 AM

Need a Deli in the Dayton OH area

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Are there any serious Deli's in or around Dayton. I'm thinking along the lines of Manny's in Chicago. Maybe something like Zingerman's in AA or even Katzingers in Columbus. I need a Pastrami sandwhich that will knock my socks off. Izzy's and Katzinger's are too far for a quick fix.

Anybody remember Winkelsteins in Chicago? Were they at all related to Zingerman's. I've heard how Katz's in CMH is supposedly a rip off of Zing's but Winkelsteins was like an identical twin!

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    S. B. Cochran

    To my knowledge, there is nothing like Zingerman's anywhere. That said, the only place I know of that comes close in the Dayton area is:

    Dorothy Lane Market - 2710 Far Hills Ave (S. Dayton in Oakwood area) - 937/299-3561 - Cafe and Soda Shoppe (11-2200h) - Carnegie Deli corned beef, pastrami, wood-burning pizza oven, Black Diamond cheddar cheese, prime beef - Prepared food to take out, produce - Open 24h

    1. Try Charlie's on Troy Street, north of downtown. It's a little dive, but they have good German meats.

      1. I was just remembering Winkelsteins Deli in Chicago and decided to google it to see if it's still there. I happened upon your blog and here I am. Winkelsteins was my favorite deli when I as a student at the School of the Art Institute of Chicago. I interned at a design firm in walking distance from the deli. I would walk there and was always nervous because it was right across from the Cabrini Green Housing Projects. had to walk under the El Tracks and go past some scarey looking buildings to get there. One time I was nearly accosted by a local resident on my way and was thankful to get a ride back to my building by a Chicago Police officer. Might be why it didn't last. It was an awesome place and I remember fondly the knishes and the matzo ball soup.

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        1. re: tendaysofblue

          Up on Main Street in Clayton is a little deli called Uptwon Deli and Bernstein's Catering. They do make sandwiches, although they don't overtly have the variety places like Katzinger's have.

          Dorothy Lane Market is certainly a fine option.

        2. The closest "real" deli is Sappiro's in Indianapolis. I drive over a couple of times a year for their pastrami sandwiches.

          Dorothy Lane does have the right kind of rye bread in their bakery and Boar's Head in the deli section, so you can get the right fixin's and make your own sandwich.

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          1. re: jackrugby

            You don't consider Katzinger's authentic? I've heard it's a Zingerman's family member, which is why they so closely resemble each other. Of course, I don't think Zingerman's is any better than some of the better delis around Oakland County in Detroit.

            1. re: Fibber McGee

              I guess I have an east coast bias when it comes to deli's. While Sappiro's is a poor substitute for the Carnegie Deli in NYC it does come closest to it for this area.

              I think I ate a Katzinger's a couple of times, but it's been 20 years. From what I remember I did enjoy the food. Next time I want a pastrami sandwhich I'll go back and try it again.

              1. re: jackrugby

                I figured that was why, as I have heard in terms of layout they're closer to New York than Katzinger's or Zingerman's. It's like a cafeteria, almost, right? Next time I am in Indy I was planning on trying them, even before this thread. I'm actually a brisket man above all else.

                1. re: Fibber McGee

                  Although this a zombie thread (OP was 2001), it's interesting to read the current comments. Where is a Katzinger's in the Dayton area (or are you guys talking about the one in Cols?)

                  DLM is my answer to the best "deli-like" food in the area, but when I want a corned beef on rye that compares to the delis I grew up with in Miami, I go to Cols to the North Market. I don't even know the name of the deli counter there, but it's the only place I've found in Cinci-Dayton-Cols that compares to what I remember....

                  1. re: Niki in Dayton

                    The Columbus one, in German Village.
                    Ah, Miami. How the Racal House is missed.
                    Ha. Didn't even look at the date of the original post.But since it was memories that brought the thread back, I really do miss Upper Krust.

                    1. re: Niki in Dayton

                      When you mention Miami, do you mean FLA or Oxford?

                      I guess this being a 'zombie thread' just goes to show how many of us Daytonians long for a good deli in the area.

                      1. re: jackrugby

                        Miami Florida, past home of the fabulous Wolfies (where they used to serve mini-danish as you waited for your breakfast) and the great Rascal House, where the corned beef on rye was huge!

                        And I agree - there are lots of things to love in Dayton, but deli ain't one of them....

                    2. re: Fibber McGee

                      Just wanted to say I had lunch at Katzinger's in Columbus Saturday (7/10). Had a pastrami on rye and a potato latke. Both were pretty good, I still like Sappiro's better, but I would definely eat there in the future.