112615 Thu Apr 17 17:15:19 -0700 2003 10 7 Chicago Area 0 611640 Ok, here are my favorite raw meat dishes in chicago (to re-iterate adnauseum my infatuation with the below): 1. Hackerpeter at Laschett's Inn 2. Beef Tendon in vinegarette at Spring World (it is raw tendon, right?) I have not found really good sushi. I know there must be other really tasty raw meat dishes here. I am really Looking foward to suggestions. anybody serve raw chicken here? thanks, jason Thu Apr 17 17:15:19 -0700 2003 0 Ligament 1 611651 Jason, My current favorite is the raw beef appetizer at Woo Chon. Raw beef mixed with Asian pear, toasted sesame oil, pine nuts and scallions, rounded out beautifully by a raw egg. Current favorite for raw fish is Katsu, with Heat a close second. Actually, Heat might be first if it wasn't so damn expensive. No raw chicken for me, yet, but if it was offered at Katsu or Heat I would most likely give it a try. Raw crab served as panchan at most of the Korean BBQ houses, though you and I have to ask, maybe even implore, to have it served to us. While beef tendon at Spring World is excellent, I do not think it's raw. I also enjoy the sliced beef and maw Szechwan style at Spring world, though I slightly prefer the version at Lao Sze Chuan since Spring World stopped serving the beef and maw with those odd, slightly hard, biscuits. This is a really interesting subject for a thread, I am looking forward to other peoples raw responses. Enjoy, Gary Woo Chon, 5744 N California Ave. Chicago, IL (773) 728-8001 Live coals Hai Woon Dae 6240 N. California Chicago, IL 60659 773-764-8018 Live Coals Lao Sze Chuan 2172 S Archer Chicago, IL 60616 312-455-0667 Multiple locations Katsu Japanese Restaurant 2651 W Peterson Ave Chicago, IL. 60659 773-784-3383 5pm - Midnight, closed Tuesday Heat 1507 N. Sedgwick St. Chicago, IL 312-397-9818 Thu Apr 17 18:29:58 -0700 2003 611640 0 G Wiv 2 611654 too many posts today. I had horse sashimi while in japan. Thinly sliced horse, with a pat of white horse fat served on top (looked like a pat of butter). The meat was lean. Kinda like bison in texture and taste. I was drunk, so maybe I'm off. I was drunk for much of that month. I do not normally drink. But there is something so perfect in the union of japanese food and otherwise poor quality beer. gary. I too like the korean tartare that you write about. I have forgotten the name. The sesame oil makes it special I fbelieve. I will try your joint soon. best, jason Thu Apr 17 18:41:22 -0700 2003 611651 0 Ligament 2 611663 G Wiv, I also believe that the beef tendon is cooked. It is wonderfully crunchy but has to be cooked. Spring World's rendition has a little extra crunch with coarsely pulverized Szechuan peppercorn as opposed to LSC's smoother version (the dressing). Brasserie Jo does a mean steak tartare, very moist and highly seasoned. Happy holidays, Evil Ronnie Thu Apr 17 20:09:55 -0700 2003 611651 0 Evil Ronnie 1 611687 Printer's Row used to serve buffalo carpacio. Even though I love the beef version, I had to admit that buffalo was too gamy for my tastes. Fri Apr 18 11:15:05 -0700 2003 611640 0 Kirk 2 611688 One of the best beef carpaccios in the city is at Mia Francesca. I can just see the large white platter covered, no coated, with the almost translucent, web-like, slices of beef, freshly curled pieces of parmigiano-reggiano, and arugula lightly dressed in olive oil. One of the worst raw meat experiences I have had in Chicago was at 437 Rush (a birthday party, not my choice). They had to have mixed at least three times as much mustard as called for in my steak tartare - absolutely inedible. Fri Apr 18 11:34:48 -0700 2003 611687 0 MAG 3 611725 I have also enjoyed this dish at the sister - La Sorella di Francesca - in N'ville. Quite good. Their food is always good, though the sister has become so popular and N'ville chichi that I am hard pressed to go in. I cannot think of any other raw meat dishes I routinely eat. I would be a little nervous about raw chicken just because of the likelihood of salmonella contamination. d Fri Apr 18 22:46:31 -0700 2003 611688 0 dickson d 4 611792 Having once had salmonella, I too would stay far far away from any raw chicken. Mon Apr 21 08:12:25 -0700 2003 611725 0 MAG 3 611748 Mag, I agree wholeheartedly, Mia Francesca's beef carpaccio is excellent, in fact, it's my wife's favorite dish at Mia Francesca. We typically go to the Taylor street location, I find the table spacing and noise level more to my comfort level than Clark street, but have also had the carpaccio at the Bryn Mawr location. With D Dickson's Naperville Mia carpaccio recommendation it seems as if Mia is consistent across the board with this dish. I also enjoy the carpaccio at Zia's in Edison Park, but as has been discussed Zia's can get a bit crowded and noisy on the weekends, though if you enjoy the Clark street Mia's, you might not think Zia's, even on a Saturday night, is over the top noisy. {smile} Enjoy, Gary Sat Apr 19 22:14:43 -0700 2003 611688 0 G Wiv 1 611762 A recent meal at DuKem in DC reminds me how much I like the ethiopian take on steak tartare: kitfo. FInely ground raw beef with onion, jalapeno maybe and other spices mixed in. A bite of beef with a little bit of fresh cottage cheese and an extra dusting of that incendiary red chili powder all wrapped up in the slight ferment of njera. Yum. I've had a very good version at the place on clark just north of belmont : i can't remember if it's mama desta's or red sea. The guy brought extra red chili powder and stuck around to watch me eat it. I can't remember if I've had kitfo at Ras Dashen, but if my general memory of the high quality of the dishes there is accurate, then it shoud be great. Keep in mind however, if they still employ the woman i refer to affectionately as the worst waitress in the history of food service, then a mela as Ras Dashen means you're in for a long evening lingering over empty plates, awkward silences and simmering frustrations. Sun Apr 20 12:00:33 -0700 2003 611640 0 Seth Zurer 2 611861 Mama Desta’s and Red Sea are one and the same. Mama Desta’s Red Sea Restaurant is at 3216 N Clark. If you order kitfo, be sure to make it clear you want it raw. Many restaurants, including Ras Dashen (5846 N Broadway), serve it cooked by default. One big reason kitfo is so good is that it contains a lot of spiced butter (niter kebbeh). Mon Apr 21 19:39:58 -0700 2003 611762 0 Rene G