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Anyone know of any Dutch or Viennese restaurants in Toronto?

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Lizzy-lu Jun 10, 2005 11:55 AM

Does anyone know of any good, reasonably-priced Dutch or Viennese restaurants in Toronto? I have exhausted all other sources, so any help would be appreciated!
Thanks,
Lizzy-lu

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    sunnyside Jun 10, 2005 11:59 AM

    The Sweet Galllery on Mt Pleasant serves some Viennese and Austrian desserts and pastries, as does Schiller's on the Danforth. They also have lunch and brunch items, but the only savoury item I've tried at the Sweet Gallery is the schnitzel on the bun which wasn't that great.
    I haven't tried Konditor on Queen E yet, but I've heard good things about it.

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      qwerty Jun 10, 2005 12:11 PM

      Konditor is a bakery cafe, so they have some savory items and soups, but it is not really a restaurant (I think they have may be 4 tables?) and their stregnth is in german-style cakes.

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        Jen M Jun 10, 2005 04:28 PM

        there used to be a restaurant called Van Gogh's on lakeshore rd.. - port credit, mississauga... not sure if it's still here.

        THey served indonesian/dutch food.

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          Anna B Nov 22, 2006 06:56 PM

          Van Go is gone - replaced by Lago (?) I think.

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      fatboy44 Jun 10, 2005 02:15 PM

      What kind of dishes in particular are you looking for and did you mean Deutch?. Deutch (as in German) and Viennese cuisines are similar. Dutch and Viennese is very different. I am sure that if we knew what you are looking for, someone on this board could steer you in the right direction.

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        sunnyside Jun 10, 2005 04:18 PM

        Toronto does not have a large Dutch community, therefore it has few Dutch run establishments. Stork on the Roof was the only restaurant run by Dutch Canadians that I knew of, and they recently closed. Dutch Dreams icecream is the only other establishment I know of, and they only serve ice cream.

        Many Dutch and Deutsch(German) foods are actually quite similar. Germany has many different regional cuisines, some are more similar to Dutch cuisine, others are more similar to Austrian style cuisine.
        Dutch food is very similar to the Northern German regional cuisine, especially that found along the Baltic Sea. They both use a lot of herring,cabbage, sour cream, bacon, cheese, sausages, potatoes,and apples. Lots of apple and cinnamon flavoured kuchens and strudel type pastries are found in Holland and Germany. Edam and Gouda cheese are eaten throughout Germany and Holland.

        Southern German cuisine, including Swabian, Bavarian,and Thuringer cuisine, is similar to the cuisine one would find in Vienna, Salzburg and even in Czech Republic, Croatia and Hungary. They tend to serve schnitzels,sauerkraut, goulash,dumplings, spaetzle, sauerbraten. Sweets and coffee are a ritual each afternoon thoughout the former Austro-Hungarian empire, and there are many immigrants from the former Austro-Hungarian empire living in Toronto(especially those from Poland, the Ukraine, Croatia and Serbia) so it fairly easy to find Viennese (or more accurately MittelEuropean) style foods in Toronto, especially at the delis and bakeries in Bloor W Village and Roncesvalles. Many Polish and Ukrainian shops carry German and Austrian imports.

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          fatboy44 Jun 10, 2005 06:00 PM

          thanks Sunnyside...very informative. however, that still does not help our original poster . we could maybe help find the food Lizzy Lu is looking for if we knew what it was. don't you agree...? cheers, fatboy44

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            wordsworth Nov 21, 2006 11:33 AM

            They tend to serve schnitzels,sauerkraut, goulash,dumplings, spaetzle, sauerbraten?

            Your idea of German food is more than slightly limited. The most common food is a variety of wurst (sausages.) Belegte Brot (open face sandwhichs) are also very common, most often with ham and/or cheese.

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            Lizzy-lu Jun 13, 2005 03:21 PM

            I was just generally looking for either authentic Dutch (from the Netherlands) food, or authentic Viennese food for dinner in Toronto. The book club I belong to meets at restaurants, and we like to match the location of the book's narrative with the nationality of the food we eat.

            From the sounds of it, it seems that we will be enjoying German/Austrian food.

            Thanks for all the help everyone. I knew if you guys did't know of a restaurant, no one would!

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              Googs Nov 21, 2006 04:55 PM

              I loathe recommending places I haven't been to. I see this is still a problem, though, so here goes. During Oktoberfest both the Globe and The Star reviewed Amadeus somewhat favourably. There's Viennese fare on the menu. Hope it's what your book club's looking for.
              http://www.toronto.com/restaurants/li...

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            Jar Jun 10, 2005 02:40 PM

            There may be some confusion in hounds guessing you mean German and Viennese cuisines, but your mention of Dutch does spark a curiosity that never occured to me before about what Dutch cuisine might offer?? Don't think I have ever seen a Dutch store even and expect that Dutch immigrants never settled into a single neighbourhood. The few Dutch folks I have met range from living downtown or living/working a farm.

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              qwerty Jun 10, 2005 03:47 PM

              There are a few Dutch stores around and one of them has a lunch counter - except that this particular one is in Grimsby, and those that are closer to the City do not serve food AFAIK.

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              bluedog Jun 10, 2005 03:22 PM

              Don't know if one can get any more Viennese (in Toronto) than Schiller's on the Danforth. Kaffee mit schlagobbers und Kuchen is pretty good, though I have never had the lunch menu. Here it is alright however.

              Viennese non-cake food is more or less schnitzel, speatzle and dumplings. Hungarian is actually pretty similar in some ways. And there is a lot of that around.

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                jill Jun 13, 2005 10:34 AM

                I think you mean 'Schilling's' on Danforth.

                There is a Hungarian Restaurant on Kingston Road (around Beech I think?) called Corvina that is very European, most likely Hungarian. If anyone has been there, I'd love to hear what you thought.

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                  Zengarden Jul 20, 2006 03:11 AM

                  Schillings has been closed for a year now.

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                Ronin Jun 10, 2005 04:23 PM

                Though the flavor is more German, Brandt Meats in Mississauga runs a nice lunch counter featuring their first-rate products. Problem is, though, it's just lunch and open only Wed-Sat. Simon's Smokehouse in Brampton is all that's left of Simon DeGroot's small Dutch food empire that once reigned on Church St. They have a few Dutch style meat products but it's a pretty thin offering.

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                  Monte Jun 15, 2005 11:08 AM

                  Just a note on Canadian Dutch:

                  There is a dutch community in Souhtern ontario, specifically in Oxford County. They settled there to farm.

                  I grew up there. I know they used to have a shop that specialized in dutch import foods. I believe its still there. I wasn't a CH back then so I did not sample or recall any restaurants.

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                    tbone187 Jul 19, 2006 08:01 PM

                    The Holland Store at 2542 Weston Rd. near 401. About the best you can do, you can also order online.
                    http://hollandstore.safeshopper.com/
                    www.godutch.com is also a great resource

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                      Atahualpa Nov 21, 2006 08:13 PM

                      FYI, There is a very large Dutch community in Norfolk and Brant too. The whole town of Norwich is practically Dutch. The travel agency lists discount fares to Amsterdam in their window and the main store is a bakery/Dutch import food store and has everything Dutch.

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                      SuzanneTD Nov 20, 2006 06:06 PM

                      I guess there are no more Dutch restaurants. I think they have closed, because there is no actual community (anymore).
                      We go to Niemeyer's Import on a regular basis. It is pretty far (10 East Wilmot Street, in Richmond Hill) but it's a very nice place. They only serve lunch, not diner, but they serve a few typically Dutch things that are worth a try if you are not Dutch and that make you feel home when you are Dutch! Try the famous kroket, or erwtensoep (pea soup) in winter, or if you are very adventurous go for the herring!
                      Enjoy!
                      By the way, Konditor on Queen is also just for breakfast, lunch and pastry, but their food is very, very good!

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                        wordsworth Nov 21, 2006 11:30 AM

                        Not so. Stork on The Roof is Dutch and still around, as far as I know.

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                          estragon Nov 21, 2006 11:36 AM

                          Uh, no. It closed a while back. The owners recently returned to Toronto and opened Quince.

                      2. nummanumma Nov 21, 2006 10:45 PM

                        The owner is dutch, but Stork wasnt dutch food, nor is Quince! :)

                        1. estestest Nov 30, 2006 06:42 PM

                          The only thing dutch on the menu at Quince are the croquettes. As a Dutch Canadian, I've been lamenting the lack of dutch cuisine around here for ages. At least the St. Lawrence Market sells the Conimex Indonesian seasoning so we can make our own Nasi Goreng. Also, the best Dutch store I know of is in Burlington in the Roseland Plaza.

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                            crawfish Jan 9, 2007 11:16 PM

                            My Dutch father-in-law said that there is no Dutch communities in Canada because they came to Canada to get away from the Dutch. And my in laws never went out for dinner because they were too cheap, and my mother in law could over cook food at homeperfectly, why go out? :)

                            BUT we still need stropwafels, right? So my husband goes to Niemeyer's Import in Richmond Hill, Wilmot and Leslie. In my opinion, Stropwafels are Holland only contribution to good eating. Oh, and cheese.

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                              OnDaGo Jan 10, 2007 02:29 AM

                              Sounds like a bad Mike Myers movie... Croquettes, eel, herring, double salted liquorish, split pea soup, oliebollen all make my mouth water...

                              Interesting that the Dutch came to Canada to get away from themselves??? My therapist says I can't do that :-) The Dutch that came here after the war were mostly farmers so they ended up spread out in farming communities around southern Ontario. I grew up south of Brantford and it would take more then one hand to count the number of "van's" in each of my classes. My parents still get a Dutch newspaper in Hamilton. But like many others spend their childhood eating tulip bulbs during the war so when it was over and they moved here they were happy for any food and without the access to much of the ingredients lost touch with the culinary traditions...

                              Next time I am home I will bring back a copy of the Dutch paper as it has a list of Dutch shops in the back...

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                              Kate0014 Mar 13, 2007 03:29 PM

                              There are quite a number of Dutch people living north of the city.. there's the Holland Marsh, Holland Landing, Holland River and Holland Street is in the main street in Bradford, Ontario. As a result, there's a really good Dutch import store in Bradford. It's called Dutch Treats, check out www.dutchtreats.ca. They have all the classics, plus good Dutch appelmoes and they even host Sinterklaas on December 5!

                              1. sumashi May 6, 2007 07:52 AM

                                This isn't really in Toronto, but there's an Austrian restaurant called Old Country Inn north of the city. They have the regular fare like different types of schnitzel's and wursts. They don't have spaetzle ( where can I get spaetzle? I think I've only had it once here in Canada) ... they also have goulash!
                                It's located in a really pretty area, Main Street, where there are lots of little shops along the road. There's also TooGood Pond at the end of the street, which is a nice area to walk around.

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                                  Mila May 7, 2007 09:52 AM

                                  Main Street, Unionville
                                  http://www.oldcountryinn.ca

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                                    sumashi May 7, 2007 10:20 AM

                                    Thanks Mila!
                                    "north of the city" was pretty vague, wasn't it :)

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                                  alison87 Nov 27, 2009 12:36 PM

                                  Does anyone know of any places that are TTC-accessible that sell Sinterklaas food and candy? We can get stroopwafels at pretty much any grocery store, but i'm thinking of pepernoten, chocolate letters, speculaas etc.

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