http://www.chow.com/boards/62 Mon, 13 Apr 2009 21:13:25 GMT Keep track of the lastest threads on Chowhound http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/839725#7340867 Here on the 7/8 border, my spring bed is under the shade cloth. I may try to sow another row of arugula before giving up on greens completely. Arugula, spinach and romaine has been wildly prolific, this year. I have a couple cauliflower plants left over from a seeding failure and they are enormous, but without a single sign of a flower. The carrots and beets look good and I just seeded cucs, yellow squash and melons in the bare spots showing up. I'm going to start a few in trays in cases the seeded ones aren't happy under the shade cloth. I picked my first cherry tomato two days ago and should get a real tomato in another week. They will be my earliest ever. The peppers have peppers and the potatoes are huge. The eggplant is being blase`. I am trying a three sisters bed this year and just planted the corn. A bit later than I had anticipated, but wanted to make sure I was home from vacation before it started coming in. Has anyone else done it and was it a success? NanH Tue, 15 May 2012 19:26:52 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/839725#7340867 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/849171#7340298 Thanks! I'll have to go get some of that. I had never heard of it and am glad it lasts longer than the diatomaceous earth. The seed packet for my Kentucky Wonders says they don't like to be transferred, so I've never tried that. But maybe they wouldn't mind it in peat pots. AmyH Tue, 15 May 2012 15:49:05 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/849171#7340298 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/848926#7337304 Thanks for sharing! Have you ever tried plasticulture? If not, you may want to give it a shot. With plasticulture you will double or triple your yields as well as have an earlier harvest all while using less than half the water, half the fertilizer, less disease from soil that splashes up on the leaves of the plants, less than half the work (no more weeding) (no more watering if you use a water timer), and less money. Now that I've been doing plasticulture every year for four years and have experienced the amazing results, I will never go back to the traditional home gardening method. I say home gardening method because farmers and commercial growers have been using plasticulture for ages, but, for some reason, it just hasn't caught on in home gardens yet. I hope it does. 1POINT21GW Mon, 14 May 2012 05:44:52 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/848926#7337304 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/848394#7334223 My recipe is: Pint volume spray bottle small squeeze of dishwashing liquid about the same amount of vegetable oil fill with water shake vigorously before spraying The only bugs I've ever had on herbs have been spittle bugs in my rosemary, and they just get a blast of water from the hose. kcshigekawa Fri, 11 May 2012 23:17:05 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/848394#7334223 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/847830#7334184 First, take a soil sample from the area you'll be using to your county extension office (if you have one). You'll indicate on the form they have you fill out that your purpose with this soil is a home garden. They'll send back the results with a "prescription" of what you need to do. This is specifically for you and that area of soil you sent in taking into account what your purpose with that area is. Next, simply follow their instructions on how to amend your soil (if it needs to be). Also, how long-term do you see this being for you? If you're planning on gardening year-after-year, you may want to look into an electric fence. You can make one for very little money. Also, and I cannot stress this enough, even for your very first year, I highly encourage you to look into plasticulture. Simply put, it's an irrigation system that is made up of a drip tape that goes down your rows which is then covered by a thin, black (or white if you're planting late in the summer season) plastic. There's more to it than that and I am happy to help you with it if you're interested. But, the benefits of plasiculture are simply phenomenal. If you ever did it, you'd never go back to the "regular" way of gardening. Most strawberries you've ever seen we're probably grown using plasticulture. About 85% of all tomatoes grown in the United States are grown using plasticulture. Farmers use this technique because it works and it's smart business. In short, with plasticulture you will double or triple your yield as well as have an earlier harvest all while using less than half the water, half the fertilizer, less disease from soil that splashes up on the leaves of the plants, less than half the work (no more weeding) (no more watering if you use a water timer), and less money. 1POINT21GW Fri, 11 May 2012 22:50:38 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/847830#7334184 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/848133#7333972 Coffee grounds provide both organic matter and nitrogen. Most herbs do better without too much nitrogen as it promotes rank growth and low flavor intensity. Use coffee grounds quite sparingly. Exceptions include most mints but you could make their normal aggressive growth even worse. Coffee grounds are best in situations were nitrogen and acidity are positives. Eldon Kreider Fri, 11 May 2012 20:46:18 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/848133#7333972 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/840968#7329860 Well, I had one holy basil plant show up spontaneously on my patio last year, which could only have come from a seed dropped by the plant the previos year that over wintered in the soil (I'm in New York). So the seed can survive outdoors on occasion even here. jumpingmonk Wed, 09 May 2012 19:59:36 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/840968#7329860 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/848270#7329040 I am grateful! coll Wed, 09 May 2012 14:44:47 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/848270#7329040 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/847765#7326133 Obviously full sun...and keep them well irrigated. I water in the morning, well, and make sure the soil has excellent drainage. They're very easy to grow...make sure you pick them as they ripen and you'll have tons of them :). One of the highlights of the summer. Love love love them. latindancer Tue, 08 May 2012 05:01:58 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/847765#7326133 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/786422#7323874 Bumping this because I pulled up some self-sowing (sowed?) cilantro today that's already bolted...the main part of the root had a woody core, not good for a cilantro pesto or curry paste, I'd think. But it would do okay as flavoring in a broth. The smaller side roots were fine & I smashed them up with some garlic to make a paste for a soup. The leaves and stems were lost causes from a culinary perspective, though - awful soapy taste, and I don't usually think that cilantro tastes like soap. Onto the compost pile they went. gimlis1mum Mon, 07 May 2012 01:40:35 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/786422#7323874 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/762563#7323854 Dear 512 window et al, I too am growing these big ol' artichokes that are thornless, earwig filled sort of woody giant balls, and I'd like to know what variety they are. They have a notch on the top of the leaf where one would usually find a pointy thorn. My plants are huge, so much so that one toppled over today, and so are the artichokes they grow, but despite feeding and watering them, they're not a big hit on the eating end. The choke part is ok, but the leaves-not so much. Does anybody out there know what they are?? cheers, Laura HadesHnds Mon, 07 May 2012 01:26:28 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/762563#7323854 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/838038#7303730 Hooray! Glad the p[lnats made it through. I'm just north of Boston. My asparagus (new plnats put in last fall, in a new location) are sending up big firns at this point. I did snek a spear or two early on, simply for the novelty of munching fresh asaragus in the garden in March. Who knows when that opportunity will come again? :-) gimlis1mum Fri, 27 Apr 2012 02:46:40 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/838038#7303730 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/843924#7300704 Thank you all for your replies. Sorry for the delay in responding but you know how life sometimes gets in the way....This will be my 1st year of experimentation and I'll be using a lot of your information. I'll check in and let you know how things are going and I'm sure I'll have plenty more questions. Thank you all again. jnk Wed, 25 Apr 2012 20:41:26 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/843924#7300704 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/825261#7297219 in the Midwest as a child we'd chew on them for the 'bite' taste while playing in the yard. if you don't use pesticides or excessive fertilizers I'd use 'em just like you would scallion or chive. why not, right? hill food Tue, 24 Apr 2012 06:32:28 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/825261#7297219 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/845372#7296611 Actually our local garden shop owner gave us that same suggestion today. We'll give it a try. Thanks. Midlife Mon, 23 Apr 2012 23:15:43 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/845372#7296611 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/695687#7293231 Search for "Soil Solarization" and you will get a lot of reading. Based on what I have read, I would have opted for "thermal windows" composed of 2 mil clear plastic framed over pressure treated 2 X 2's. Unfortunately, the plastic industry appears to have misunderstood the word clear to mean opaque. The product I ended up with is 4 mil x 4' X 25' Crystal Clear Frost King Vinyl available via Home Depot - one roll makes 3-1/2 4' x 4' "thermal windows". At 6 weeks/location - this would be a multi-year effort. WappRecycler Sun, 22 Apr 2012 10:20:05 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/695687#7293231 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/845269#7290778 Hello, Looking for any tips or favorites for a small fruit banana tree. I'm in Los Angeles. The varieties I'm looking at include Misi Luki and Dwarf Brazilian. Looking for an easy to grow, not too huge, good eating or cooking, wind tolerable. Any help appreciated! LATrapp Fri, 20 Apr 2012 20:30:27 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/845269#7290778 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/840549#7289751 I've done herbs, lettuces and peppers well in small containers. Since you get full sun you don't want the pots too small or you'll have a hard time keeping them watered during the hot summer months. You'll probably want to shade the lettuce too, since it's a cold weather plant. How about those topys turvy planters for tomatoes? They can be a good space saver since you hang them. I've grown "patio tomatoes" (that's how they were labelled) and early girl in them with success. The tomatoes I've grown in pots want a very large container. Challenge there is getting all that heavy dirt up to the patio and the weight of the pot once it's filled. LanaD Fri, 20 Apr 2012 13:53:30 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/840549#7289751 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/839135#7289179 In other words, it's invasive. Once established it's pretty hard to kill. Jeri L Fri, 20 Apr 2012 02:54:29 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/839135#7289179 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/839106#7289068 :-D Thanks! It took about 5 days, but he is over his fear of the demon window and back on kitty patrol. I have discovered that they both LOVE chives. This is our first experience with having an elevated deck - so we are working on short venture out doors. My chives are permanent nubs due to the nibbling. Local herb fest begins tomorrow, so hoping to pick up more chives and catnip! meatn3 Fri, 20 Apr 2012 01:49:37 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/839106#7289068 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/844787#7286206 Lettuce, arugula, radicchio, cherry radishes, spinach ought to be ok in a shallow bed. You could always put a border around it and make a raised bed. A 2x4 edging would give you 3 more inches if soil depth. DonShirer Wed, 18 Apr 2012 23:22:45 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/844787#7286206 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/843609#7276627 I agree with Don, you should definitely be seeing something by now. Peppers are all over the place and can take anywhere from 5-6 days up to several months. The rest, you should have something by now. My tomatoes, zucchini, squash, cucumbers, watermelon, eggplant, etc. usually pop within about 4-10 days and I often just germinate them at room temperature. Peppers I keep around 85F. What are you using to germinate them? What kind of potting mix did you use? How deep did you plant them? As long as the potting mix drains well then they should be fine with the water. I germinate in a domed mini greenhouse seed starter and spray the top of the potting mix regularly to keep it moist. You want to keep the seeds from drying out and keep the humidity high when germinating, so moisture normally shouldn't be a problem unless you're using poorly draining potting mix. StringerBell Sat, 14 Apr 2012 18:21:54 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/843609#7276627 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/842336#7264403 I'm trying brussel sprouts for the first time. Wanted to try celeriac but the seed seller was out of stock and I didn't want to place an order with someone else. I'm trying ground cherries for the first time after liking them at the farmers market. Here in zone 5ish, I'm trying to use strategy for a longer growing season. A high tunnel is in construction (going to be wood framed). The ground is finally dry enough for the tractor. Got a delivery of my favorite composted horse manure yesterday. Starting a lot of seeds indoors this year thanks to new seed starting set up. So far onions and leeks don't look all that great but I'm learning. Fertilized with fish emulsion yesterday. It's almost time to transplant some things into larger cells. But a local grower has a fantastic variety of tomatoes and peppers for sale by pre-order and lets you buy just one each so I go for a variety. dfrostnh Mon, 09 Apr 2012 11:07:03 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/842336#7264403 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/801413#7264236 delete? Shrinkrap Mon, 09 Apr 2012 04:49:50 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/801413#7264236 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/762298#7260522 Good lord, starting tomatoes in January? I start some slow growing peppers in early January, or even late December, but tomatoes grow so fast I can't imagine starting them 5 months before putting them outside. I start them at the end of March and by May they're already 8 inches tall. StringerBell Fri, 06 Apr 2012 19:02:06 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/762298#7260522 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/825317#7258473 Eh, I'm in Indiana I have a dwarf meyer lemon tree. Kumquat, limequat, and kaffir lime too. They're really easy to grow, they fruit in the summer and then ripen indoors in the winter. The best meyer lemons I've ever had were the ones I grew here, much heavier and juicier than the ones in the grocery store. StringerBell Thu, 05 Apr 2012 17:54:07 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/825317#7258473 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/842126#7253701 IME piquillos have a little bit of heat, but if you're growing them yourself from seed they're probably going to be quite a bit different than the jarred, imported variety anyway. Peppers are a lot like tomatoes in that they get most of their character from soil and weather. And there are the particulars of how Spanish piquillos are processed which I have no idea about. Anyway, I do love me some canned imported peppers so I will try the grilled cheese for sure. I just had some imported Calabrese peppers on a wood-fired oven pizza and they instantly became my new obsesssion. Of the many varieties I grow and can/freeze every year I think my favorite for all-purpose use is Wenk's Yellow Hots. Depending on the weather and when they're picked, they can go from not hot to really pretty dang hot. They taste great in their full range of color/ripeness. They are floral and magical when eaten raw, and a jar sitting on the shelf showing off all of their shades of yellow, orange and red makes me crazy happy. splatgirl Tue, 03 Apr 2012 15:25:30 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/842126#7253701 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/841608#7251050 yes ive collected some seeds this year that were hanging on they need warm cold warm to germinate they may come up first year but def the second I plan to collect this summer and replant in rows herontype Mon, 02 Apr 2012 11:38:42 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/841608#7251050 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/842021#7251046 Hi The snow and cols seems to be having fun I hope the wild ramps are going to survive herontype Mon, 02 Apr 2012 11:29:23 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/842021#7251046 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/828319#7249838 --just an anecdote: my mom started burying her trimmings (trench composting) near her roses, and got some volunteer potato plants! from thin, thin peels. She was a child of the Deression, so you can be sure the peels were very thin! I love remembering this story. toodie jane Sun, 01 Apr 2012 18:16:52 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/828319#7249838 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/841387#7243997 You know the feeling --read the article, now can't remember where I read it or find it again. My best guess is that it was in Gourmet, in 2008 or 2009 (shortly before it closed). But may have been in another magazine since I have looked through back issues of Gourmet and can't find it. It was about a couple who had winnowed down their vegetable gardening plantings to the very unique things they couldn't get elsewhere or that their family was just crazy about. And they had figured out just how much to plant to produce just the amount they needed for their small family, without lots of extras (there was a lot of succession planting going on), and to allow one thing to be planted after another had matured (or one thing inbetween other things), so that it all fit in this very small space. There was a list of the somewhat unusual varieties they had chosen, and the order of the plantings, and a sharing of why some things had made the cut and others gone by the wayside. I had thought to myself when I read it, "I want to use this as a guide" and then I didn't mark it or set aside the magazine, and now it has been making me crazy each spring to try to find it. If it wasn't in Gourmet, it could have been inBon Appetit. I also read Fine Gardening and Fine Cooking and Sunset, so it could have been in those, possibly, but I am kind of remembering how the article read and looked and it had more of the content-dense feel of Gourmet or Bon Appetit..And I am pretty sure it was in the spring. But again not 100% positive of that. any suggestions would be so appreciated. with many thanks, in advance sarosenthall Thu, 29 Mar 2012 14:12:58 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/841387#7243997 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/816267#7233282 danna, I garden in a colder climate so I don't know for sure what the problem is. Here in New England, we are told to get seeds in the ground no later than mid-September in a high tunnel. They need to grow to a good size before the short days of winter put them into dormancy. Probably the best thing to do is check with your cooperative extension service for your county. dfrostnh Sat, 24 Mar 2012 12:55:32 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/816267#7233282 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/837542#7232690 I have three Earthboxs and you will love them! Go for it. Mother of four Sat, 24 Mar 2012 00:20:28 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/837542#7232690 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/832059#7229810 I did end up spraying and I think it's made a difference. You're right about the ants. They're a nuisance. I've used tanglefoot in the past on the citrus trees and also on my apple tree. Somehow it always ends up in my hair! Glencora Thu, 22 Mar 2012 18:54:50 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/832059#7229810 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/825150#7229611 I'm not aware of an "Ultra Dwarf " (just "dwarf") citrus, but this northern Calif citrus grower is considered one of the best. If a tree iscontainer grown, it will stay much smaller than one in the ground. http://www.fourwindsgrowers.com/index.php Is the Meyer tree getting full sun? Meyers are reliable bloomers and producers almost year-round, and are not fussy about fertilizer (except too much nitrogen). Have you consulted a local reputable nursery as to why you're not getting fruit? Limes are trickier and more cold sensitive than lemons, on the whole. toodie jane Thu, 22 Mar 2012 17:46:39 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/825150#7229611 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/636258#7229482 Just for the record, it's the PETALS you will be collecting, not the "pollen" . I think the fennel pollen thing was cooked up by chefs who wanted a more exotic sounding ingredient. Pollen grains are almost invisible to the naked eye. toodie jane Thu, 22 Mar 2012 16:48:14 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/636258#7229482 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/838731#7229458 West Coast chiming in: in my California Mid-Coast garden, tarragon stays dormant till about April, when the ground is really starting to warm up. (still not warm enough for tomato seedlings, tho). This year we've had very little rain, lots of sunshine, but the tarragon just started to peak above ground last week after some drenching rains. toodie jane Thu, 22 Mar 2012 16:35:00 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/838731#7229458 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/812357#7222767 Yeah I still have a ton too, over a pound. I find them kind of difficult to pair with food. I like the flavor quite a bit, it just doesn't seem to go well with a lot of things, and the flavor kind of overpowers food at times. For instance, they really don't go well with Mexican food in my opinion, different peppers are tailored for different Mexican food and using bhuts can really throw the taste off. Kind of like if you put some sweet Asian chili sauce on a taco, it just wouldn't taste right. Sometimes I grind the bhuts with other dried peppers into powders so that the powders don't have a strong bhut taste but are more potent. Infusing some oil or vinegar with a pod or two is another option. They seem to work pretty well in sweet sauces and glazes. StringerBell Mon, 19 Mar 2012 17:09:55 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/812357#7222767 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/810149#7221989 or preying mantis hill food Mon, 19 Mar 2012 05:39:33 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/810149#7221989 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/793309#7221722 I agree with the others that you're probably overwatering, but was the manure not composted? Fresh manure is too hot for pepper plants, it needs to be composted for awhile before adding. Tomatoes and eggplant are much heavier feeders and might be able to do alright with a ton of fertilizer, but peppers are not as engineered and get burnt much more easily. Sometimes when it gets really hot peppers will wilt during the heat of the day and then perk right back up at night as well. This is pretty common and not necessarily a sign that something is wrong. They wilt during the day as a defense mechanism to conserve water. Wilting during hot days doesn't necessarily mean they need watered. StringerBell Mon, 19 Mar 2012 01:47:30 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/793309#7221722 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/840086#7220996 I made the mistake of planting horseradish in my garden in 1994 as a deterrent to potato beetles. I got no potato beetles, but I sure got horseradish plants! I used to mulch my garden with several layers of newspaper covered with lawn clippings. While this prevented most weeds, it seemed to only p*** off the horseradish. The leaves would form into a point, break thru the mulch, and flourish. The worst part of this is my soil is too heavy to get any decent roots to grind up, but that doesn't it from trying every year. al b. darned Sun, 18 Mar 2012 18:41:05 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/840086#7220996 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/838658#7212557 www.helpfulgardener.com www.garden.com these sites maybe helpful for u to check i am not familiar with shops in Ontario www.richters.com this shop greenhouse is locate 1 hr. from Toronto-in Goodwood,,On Loc 1AO they have great plants-herbs,etc jpr54_1 Wed, 14 Mar 2012 15:32:54 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/838658#7212557 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/838447#7210007 I have a full spectrum floor lamp that I bought my husband this fall for his SAD, but he only uses it sporadically. So thought I'd just put my seedlings right behind where he sits on the couch and get two for the price of one! Glad you said that about the size of the cups, I first pulled out some tiny ones I had used in the past for jello shots, then realized once they got going I'd probably have to transplant to something else. So now I found a couple of sleeves of 6 or 8 oz styro coffee cups in the garage (samples from my old job) and also have been saving all my empty yogurt cups, all I have to do is figure what to hold them in to catch the water. Might have to break down and buy the commercial trays, but I'll put on my thinking cap first. I do have some clear takeout covers set aside because I KNOW my kitties will be investigating once the greenery appears. I am on Long Island, which is Zone 7 b; except right where I live is zone c. I looked up when to plant each vegetable, but also remembered St Patricks Day being the general time when I used to do this, which is why I have a sudden flurry of questions. I always planted outside around Memorial Day. But with the change in zones..... I only got around to getting the seeds a week or so ago, better get in high gear! I have Big Daddy tomatoes, cucumbers, eggplants, hot and cooking peppers, radishes, string beans and maybe one or two other things. Nothing heirloom this time around. I will stick the tomatoes in sometime today and check my chart for what's up next. Thanks for the kick start!! coll Tue, 13 Mar 2012 14:07:49 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/838447#7210007 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/835081#7196009 You might want to look into sheep. Here in NH they have been used to keep grass and weeds in control under utility transmission lines. I have also seen them used to keep lawns at public buildings in Nova Scotia neat and trim ( and green). calliope_nh Wed, 07 Mar 2012 03:48:55 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/835081#7196009 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/803799#7192396 When I was a child, my grandmother would put them in a can on the back of the wood stove. When they were thoroughly dry, I would crunch them with a smaller can, so the can would eventually fill up with chips. Then they would get dumped in the compost bin, or just scattered in the garden. We never worried about salmonella, that I recall. GH1618 Mon, 05 Mar 2012 18:22:07 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/803799#7192396 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/837020#7192295 Thanks all. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamium_purpureum I see that Red Deadnettle, Purple Deadnettle, or Purple Archangel and Lamium purpureum are all names for it. Rella Mon, 05 Mar 2012 17:50:12 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/837020#7192295 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/817858#7176514 I can see that would be perfect for someone in a wheelchair, but I have my doubts about how much help I'm going to get from husband once I start my project. I'm just thinking it would be nice for him to gaze upon for now. I'm sort of fixated on the raised bed thing. My BIL in San Diego has about an acre of them , at least a dozen long narrow rows, and ever since I saw them that is what I am visualizing, on a much smaller scale. I have also seen recommendations that if you make a bottom on them, then you can move them around if you want, not that I'm doing that too! I will be growing my seeds inside on a double decker outdoor table , just have to figure how to keep the cats from eating them all once they sprout! Might have to spring for those seedling pans with the clear lids, for when the light is off and I'm not around. coll Mon, 27 Feb 2012 13:15:00 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/817858#7176514 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/761818#7174726 try www.webgarden.com www.helpfulgardener.com jpr54_1 Sun, 26 Feb 2012 15:24:31 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/761818#7174726 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/833339#7144205 Anyone tried growing these? How much room does it take to get a decent crop for a small family? itryalot Sun, 12 Feb 2012 23:35:55 GMT http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/833339#7144205